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Title: How Could They Plant Bombs in the World Trade Center?
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Published: Sep 5, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-09-05 16:40:20 by Kamala
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How Could They Plant Bombs in the World Trade Center? 9/11 Blogger | September 4 2006 The recent New York Times article on 9/11 implies that controlled demolition of the Twin Towers would have been impossible, because no one could have snuck in all of the explosive equipment. I, and many others, have previously addressed this issue. I am re-posting this essay in light of the Times' hit piece on this issue. How Could They Plant Bombs in the World Trade Center? Recently, a smart, accomplished person told me: "I don't believe that the World Trade Center could have been destroyed by controlled demolition . . . how could they have possibly planted bombs without anyone seeing them?" In fact, there were plenty of opportunities to plant bombs in the World Trade Center. For example: Bomb-sniffing dogs were inexplicably removed from the Twin Towers five days before 9-11 The Twin Towers had been evacuated a number of times in the weeks preceding 9/11 There was a power down in the Twin Towers on the weekend before 9/11, security cameras were shut down, and many workers ran around busily doing things unobserved. And -- as an interesting coincidence -- a Bush-linked company ran security at the trade centers, thus giving it free reign to the buildings. These are just a few of the known, public examples of opportunities to plant bombs. There were undoubtedly many additional opportunities available to skilled operatives." In addition to these facts, demolition and building collapse experts have purportedly raised the possibility of "explosive tenants" -- i.e. tenants in the World Trade Centers who planted bombs in their own, rented space. For example, according to Webster Tarpley and others, Hugo Bachmann, professor emeritus of building dynamics and earthquake engineering at the world-famous Swiss Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zürich: “In the second scenario, an additional terrorist action would have caused the collapse of the buildings. In this way, according to Bachmann, buildings like the World Trade center can be destroyed without great logistical exertion.” The article went on to say that “Bachmann could imagine that the perpetrators had installed explosives on key supports in a lower floor before the attack.” If the perpetrators had rented office space, then these “explosive tenants” could have calmly placed explosive charges on the vulnerable parts of the building “without having anyone notice.”
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#1. To: Kamala (#0)
According to William Rodriguez, the towers were only at about 60% occupancy, giving lots of access to all the vacant space...
They did a bunch of work to the Fire Alarm, and Sprinkler systems, over 4 months prior to 9-11. If people would do a google search, they might even figure out who the contractor was.
#2. To: Kamala (#0)
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#3. To: Kamala (#0)
Gee, maybe planes hit the buildings and they fell down all by themselves?
#4. To: Kamala (#0)
I can't be certain, but it would seem a "natural" that there would have been inspection ports in the support columns, to allow a camera to be lowered, to check for corrosion; or such as earthquake/storm damage. Those same ports could be used to lower explosives. Conversely, if there were no such ports, it wouldn't take that much to create them with a torch, in the guise of doing 'other' maintenance work. OR - There could have also been 'regular' shape-charges planted, using duct tape, for that matter. The key mystery is what was at the basement levels; that was more heat than I can imagine - short of a nuke. The heat, one can easily account for (thermite), but not the duration of the temperatures.
#5. To: Dempsy (#3) (Edited)
Another newbie to the forum. Drive by troll.
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#6. To: Dempsy (#3)
are you sean hannity in disquise?
#7. To: Dempsy (#3)
Nah, they both needed a little help, knowwhaddamean, Vern?
Gee, maybe planes hit the buildings and they fell down all by themselves?
#8. To: SKYDRIFTER, All, *9-11* (#4)
WTC - 9/11 www.gieis.uni.cc Independent Analysis of Scientific Evidence Relating to 9/11 All The Latest Information... Let's examine the logistical requirements of planting 20,000lbs of thermite or conventional explosive. We must first determine that the physical transportation of materials onto the site is possible and that method is portable. We'll begin by converting our units to metric for easier reading: 20,000 lbs = 9090.9 kg = 9.0909 Tonnes 9 tonnes may seem a lot, but as I'll soon show you, many hands do indeed make light work. Assuming 50 people were involved, that would require each to plant: 181.818 Kg That would require 3 trips, carrying approximately 60kg per trip. Assuming a generic device size of around 3kg, that would be 20 devices per trip, or 60 devices per man in total. For a mental reference, the average weight for a male adult in the US is around 76- 83 kg according to Wikipedia. 60 Devices * 50 people = 3000 devices As each building had 110 floors, that gives us 220 floors in total. We can spread these 50 people so that we have 1 person for every 4 floors, across both buildings and ignore the bottom 10 floors, leaving us with 200 floors to cover. Each man would then place 15 devices on each of the 4 floors assigned to him. 50 peopele * 4 floors = 200 floors (15 devices x 4 floors) * 50 people = 3000 locations/devices So, that's 1500 devices and 25 men per building. Thus, it is feasible for there to be as little as 33 people involved if each carried 90kg. Gaining access has numerous plausible scenarios and only requires a window of 5 minutes. Given a good hiding spot for the devices, 1 person could move across 4 floors, positioning 60 devices, in 3-4 hours. So, here is a quick table: 50 people - about 3-4 hours 100 people - about 1.5-2 hours 150 people - about an hour Numerous other variations of this basic analysis will also function just as well. As you can see, it would be pretty easy for any organisation of sufficent size involved in organised crime. www.gieis.uni.cc
http://www.gieis.uni.cc/evidence/ad1/index.html
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#9. To: Dempsy (#3)
And the shadow of the planes hit WTC 7 causing it to fall eight hours later.
"Gee, maybe planes hit the buildings and they fell down all by themselves?"
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“Why should they, the Americans, have trusted us? We were a bunch of Russians, socialist Russians.” -- Isser Harel, former head of Mossad, speaking of the unlikely union between America and the Marxist state of Israel.
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“They were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.” -- Excerpt of a police report concerning the arrest of 5 Israeli intelligence operatives after they were seen by witnesses filming the destruction of the Twin Towers in New York and cheering.
#10. To: Dempsy (#3) (Edited)
Yeah, and maybe 4,000 Israelis just all decided at once to stay home form work in the WTC towers that day. Like George Bush said, "it was an interesting day."
Gee, maybe planes hit the buildings and they fell down all by themselves?
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#11. To: Kamala (#0)
I don't know where explosives would have needed to be placed or how much would be needed to get the result we saw, but I do know it was very possible. I do know that what we saw was NOT an "controlled" demolition. It most likely was a demolition, but it was not very controlled. I don't think the perps cared about collateral damage to surrounding buildings. I therefore think that the amount of explosives and the number of locations for explosives was not even close to what would be required to take the towers down in a neat pile without hitting any other buildings. The core columns could be accessed through elevator shafts and mechanical risers. Floor to column connectors could be accessed through the suspended ceilings in any of the office and lobby areas. Explosive materials could have been easily, and concealably transported from parking garages below towers to the various floors via freight elevators by "workers" with common tool carts. It would be a cinch for one man with one cart to haul in 200lbs or more at a time concealed within drawers or cabinet on a tool cart. When I was working in NYC 25 years ago, I used a cart like the above, which I equipped with a vice and other tools I might need to run wire, conduit etc. It is so common for outside contractors to use carts like that. It would draw no suspicion at all, and that cabinet can hold an awful lot of nasty bangy stuff. hehehe To get the result we saw, let's hypothetically say that all we needed to do is hit the core in 4 places over the height of the towers. Though I've never been in the core of the WTC, I bet that at certain places in the tower, you could access most if not all of the core columns from a freight elevator shaft, if you were willing to do the monkey, climbing around on the steel beams. I'm basing my theory on what I saw in the Building of the WTC Video. If one man could rig one core column in 15 minutes, a 2 man crew could get all 47 on one floor in 6 or 7 hours. Four 2 man crews could do a whole building in one day. Again, i don't claim to know everything, but I do know it is very possible.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
#12. To: RickyJ (#10)
Can you show me a non-KooK link to this information?
#13. To: Kamala (#0) (Edited)
It's not that important when the explosives and thermate were placed in the buildings, what is important is that the government covered up the real reasons the buildings came down and blamed it on 19 hijackers instead. Even the government realized the sheeple would never buy a story of 19 Arab terrorist placing the explosives there themselves. If they some how managed to do that then there would be no need to hijack planes and fly them in the WTC buildings. The government is filled with idiots for sure, but even they aren't that dumb. People that like to get us focused on insignificant matters such as when were the explosives placed, where did the people on the planes go, and such, are only trying to distract others from finding out the truth of 9/11. The facts show the buildings did not come down due to the planes hitting them and the resulting fires. What really brought the buildings down is not really important, what is important is our government has lied to us to start wars in the Middle-East and take away more of our constitutional rights under the constitution!
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#14. To: christine (#6)
You've assembled quite an eclectic collection of KooKs. It's remarkable, really.
#15. To: Dempsy (#14)
Was fine till you showed..
You've assembled quite an eclectic collection of KooKs. It's remarkable, really.
#16. To: RickyJ (#10)
"There were definitely bombs in those buildings, many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact." "There were explosions going off everywhere. I was convinced that there were bombs planted all over the place and someone was sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons. . . . There was another explosion. And another. I didn't know where to run." "It sounded like bombs going off. That's when the explosions happened. . . . I knew something was going to happen. . . . It started to get dark, then all of a sudden there was this massive explosion. There was another explosion. That sent me and the two firefighters down the stairs. I can't tell you how many times I got banged around. Each one of those explosions picked me up and threw me. . . . There was another explosion, and I got thrown with two firefighters out onto the street." "It almost sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight." "The FBI spent $3 million of your tax money to blow up the World Trade Center." - Joseph Farah The tapes offer a rare glimpse into the sensitive relationship between the confidential informer and the law- enforcement officals with whom he worked. They also reveal for the first time how Federal and police agents instructed him to "pump up" a suspect for information and negotiate a $1 million fee from the Government for his services. Scattered through the hundreds of pages of transcripts are many instances in which the Government agents appear to encourage Mr. Salem to lead the suspects to incriminate themselves. Defense lawyers have long contended that the Government crossed a legal line, instructing Mr. Salem in a fishing expedition that became entrapment. Although the bulk of the transcripts does not appear to show the agents steering Mr. Salem toward improper or illegal conduct, whether they did so finally will be resolved in court. Many New Details Among the details included in the transcripts are the following: *A reference by Mr. Salem to 12 possible bombs and hitherto unmentioned targets, including Grand Central Terminal, the Empire State Building and Times Square. *A New York City police detective working with the F.B.I. told Mr. Salem, who was getting $500 a week from the Government, that if he wanted a $1 million informer's fee, he should press for $1.5 million and then negotiate. *An unusual suggestion that some of the money sought by Mr. Salem was going to be put up by private individuals. *A reference from Mr. Salem, in a conversation with an F.B.I. agent, to an argument between F.B.I. officials over whether Mr. Salem should remain an unidentified informer or surface as a witness to testify at trial. *A major defendant in the World Trade Center trial was tipped off by a neighbor to an elaborate F.B.I. ruse to search the Brooklyn apartment of another suspect, Mahmud Abouhalima, and replace explosives in his apartment with false explosives supplied by the F.B.I. *Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman, a defendant in the second bombing case, was using a fax machine to command anti-Communist Muslim rebels, moving forces from Pakistan to Afghanistan and dealing with a code-named agent from Hamas, the militant Palestinian group, Mr. Salem told the F.B.I. The transcripts cover Mr. Salem's dealings with the suspects and his work for the Government over a period of at least two years, going back to the trial in the killing of Rabbi Meir Kahane. Mr. Salem recorded the conversations with Government agents on his own, without the knowledge or consent of his contacts in the F.B.I., apparently to use as an insurance policy to hold the Government to its promises of money and protection. Some of the most striking passages in the transcripts show Mr. Salem agonizing over what he suggests was the failure of the F.B.I., despite his information, to halt the Feb. 26 bombing of the trade center, in which six people were killed. Although Mr. Salem is not a witness in that case, he was working with the Government at that time. "They told me that 'we want to set this,' " Mr. Salem said, referring to the bomb in a conversation on April 1 with John Anticev, one of the F.B.I. agents he reported to, and sometimes complained to others about. " 'What's the right place to put this?' " Then he added, still speaking to the agent: "You were informed. Everything is ready. The day and the time. Boom. Lock them up and that's that. That's why I feel so bad." Federal officials have acknowledged in the past that they dropped Mr. Salem as an informer sometime before the trade center bombing over what they said was his reluctance to wear a body recorder, as well as other disagreements. They said he never provided detailed information of the attack in advance but that they began using his services again after the bombing and credited him with foiling the related but separate plot to bomb the United Nations, Holland and Lincoln tunnels and the Federal building housing the F.B.I. in Manhattan. The case is expected to come to trial next year, perhaps shortly after the end of the related trial of four men charged with bombing the World Trade Center. As the most important witness, Mr. Salem is expected to be called upon to verify tapes he made of conversations with suspects and testify on his dealings with them. Aid for Defense? By creating the so-called bootleg tapes, Mr. Salem has given ammunition to defense lawyers who argue that he entrapped the 15 defendants charged with conspiring to bomb New York City landmarks. In one instance that shows how Mr. Salem was prompted by Federal agents, Mr. Anticev is quoted as saying, "You know, pump, maybe kind of pump him up a little bit." The agent tells Mr. Salem to stress "the loyalty to his cousin." The target in that instance, Ibrahim A. Elgabrowny, is a cousin of the man who was charged with shooting Mr. Kahane and now a defendant in a plot to bomb New York City targets. In another instance, Mr. Anticev is quoted as instructing Mr. Salem to press to learn whether Mr. Elgabrowny or his associates were hiding explosives. He is quoted as telling Mr. Salem not to worry about being exposed as the source of the information. "We'll just know where stuff exists and where it is," Mr. Anticev is quoted as saying. "And then we'll make our move." "There's no danger, you know," he says later. "We can be sneaky and take our time." Mr. Salem has dropped from sight since the June arrests, and an effort to get in touch with him through the witness protection program of the Federal Marshals Service was rejected. But a member of the defense team said he was spotted within the last month in Manhattan. Mr. Salem, a 43-year-old former Egyptian Army officer and confidant of the radical Egyptian cleric, Mr. Abdel Rahman, surfaced as the Government's mole after a June 24 F.B.I. raid on a Queens garage that the Government said smashed an extremist Muslim plot to blow up the United Nations, Lincoln and Holland tunnels and the Manhattan Federal building housing the F.B.I., and to assassinate Senator Alfonse M. D'Amato and State Assemblyman Dov Hikind, among other targets. The unauthorized tapes came to light immediately after the raid as Mr. Salem hurriedly evacuated his West Side Manhattan apartment and was quickly identified by associates of the sheik and by law-enforcement authorities as the "confidential informant" who had secretly gathered evidence, including many tape- recorded conversations, against those later charged as conspirators in the case. Tapes Left Behind In the belongings Mr. Salem left behind either carelessly or by design were cassettes of the tapes he had secretly recorded with the F.B.I. Because these could shed light on the prosecution's evidence-gathering methods to the point of possible entrapment, defense lawyers convinced Judge Mukasey that they should gain access to this material as well as to Mr. Salem's authorized recordings, turned over earlier. Even before he came in from the cold of his undercover role in June, the burly, bearded Mr. Salem was an enigmatic figure, a private investigator who supported himself as a jewelry designer, a security guard for the sheik who freely gave interviews to news reporters. Officials in Cairo say he entered the Egyptian Army as a private and during an 18-year career fought in the 1973 war with Israel and was "pensioned out" as a senior officer while continuing a relationship with Egyptian military intelligence. His American wife, from whom he was divorced this year but to whom he is still close, told New York Newsday last week that he had recently sent a set of the bootleg tapes home to Egyptian authorities with a visiting relative. In the United States for about six years, he lived most recently in a fifth-floor suite at the Bretton Hall residence hotel at 2350 Broadway. A news reporter invited to interview him there shortly after the World Trade Center bombing found herself on camera as Mr. Salem insisted videotaping the encounter. He showed her photographs of what he said was his sandbagged bunker in the 1973 war, the reviewing stand where former President Anwar el-Sadat was assassinated in 1981 and his grave site. He also showed pictures of people who had apparently been tortured: a woman with cigarette burns and a man confined in a cage. He said that he prayed at the Abu Bakr mosque in Brooklyn and the al-Salaam mosque in Jersey City, where Sheik Omar often preached, and that he had known the cleric from Egypt. He said he was attracted by Mr. Rahman's aura of power and fearlessness. Remembered as Benefactor Associates in Jersey City said they remembered Mr. Salem as a generous benefactor of the mosques and of the sheik himself. He also collected money for the defense of El Sayyid A. Nosair, an Egyptian contractor charged in the 1990 assassination of the militant Jewish leader, Rabbi Meir Kahane. Mr. Nosair was acquitted of that killing but convicted of related assault and weapons charges. He is also one of the 15 defendants in the bombing conspiracy case. Mr. Salem also had dealings with Mr.. Elgabrowny, a relative of Mr. Nosair for whom Mr. Salem said he helped obtain a pistol permit from the New York City Police Department. Associates and lawyers of some of the defendants said that Mr. Salem appeared rather abruptly on the scene around the time of the Kahane killing and that they now suspect he was sent to infiltrate the circle around Mr. Nosair. Not for commercial use. Solely to be used for the educational purposes of research and open discussion. The account, which is given in the transcript of hundreds of hours of tape recordings Mr. Salem secretly made of his talks with law- enforcement agents, portrays the authorities as in a far better position than previously known to foil the Feb. 26 bombing of New York City's tallest towers. Mr. Salem, a 43-year- old former Egyptian army officer, was used by the Government to penetrate a circle of Muslim extremists now charged in two bombing cases: the World Trade Center attack and a foiled plot to destroy the United Nations, the Hudson River tunnels and other New York City landmarks. He is the crucial witness in the second bombing case, but his work for the Government was erratic, and for months before the trade center blast, he was feuding with the F.B.I. Supervisor 'Messed It Up' After the bombing, he resumed his undercover work. In an undated transcript of a conversation from that period, Mr. Salem recounts a talk he had had earlier with an agent about an unnamed F.B.I. supervisor who, he said, "came and messed it up." "He requested to meet me in the hotel," Mr. Salem says of the supervisor. "He requested to make me to testify and if he didn't push for that, we'll be going building the bomb with a phony powder and grabbing the people who was involved in it. But since you, we didn't do that." The transcript quotes Mr. Salem as saying that he wanted to complain to F.B.I. headquarters in Washington about the bureau's failure to stop the bombing, but was dissuaded by an agent identified as John Anticev. "He said, I don't think that the New York people would like the things out of the New York office to go to Washington, D.C.," Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev had told him. Another agent, identified as Nancy Floyd, does not dispute Mr. Salem's account, but rather, appears to agree with it, saying of the New York people: "Well, of course not, because they don't want to get their butts chewed." Mary Jo White, who, as the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York is prosecuting defendants in two related bombing cases, declined yesterday to comment on the Salem allegations or any other aspect of the cases. An investigator close to the case who refused to be identified further said, "We wish he would have saved the world," but called Mr. Salem's claims "figments of his imagination." The transcripts, which are stamped "draft" and compiled from 70 tapes recorded secretly during the last two years by Mr. Salem, were turned over to defense lawyers in the second bombing case by the Government on Tuesday under a judge's order barring lawyers from disseminating them. A large portion of the material was made available to The New York Times. In a letter to Federal Judge Michael B. Mukasey, Andrew C. McCarthy, an assistant United States attorney, said that he had learned of the tapes while debriefing Mr. Salem and that the informer had then voluntarily turned them over. Other Salem tapes and transcripts were being withheld pending Government review, of "security and other issues," Mr. McCarthy said. William M. Kunstler, a defense lawyer in the case, accused the Government this week of improper delay in handing over all the material. The transcripts he had seen, he said, "were filled with all sorts of Government misconduct." But citing the judge's order, he said he could not provide any details. Ms. Floyd seems to commiserate, saying, "hey, I mean it wasn't like you didn't try and I didn't try." In an apparent reference to Mr. Salem's complaints about the supervisor, Agent Floyd adds, "You can't force people to do the right thing." The investigator involved in the case who would not be quoted by name said that Mr. Salem may have been led to believe by the agents that they were blameless for any mistakes. It was a classic agent's tactic, he said, to "blame the boss for all that's bad and take credit for all the good things." In another point in the transcripts, Mr. Salem recounts a conversation he said he had with Mr. Anticev, saying, "I said, 'Guys, now you saw this bomb went off and you both know that we could avoid that.' " At another point, Mr. Salem says, "You get paid, guys, to prevent problems like this from happening." Mr. Salem talks of the plan to substitute harmless powder for explosives during another conversation with agent Floyd. "Do you deny," Mr. Salem says he told the other agent, "your supervisor is the main reason of bombing the World Trade Center? " Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev did not deny it. "We was handling the case perfectly well until the supervisor came and messed it up, upside down." The transcripts reflect an effort to keep Mr. Salem as an intelligence asset who would not have to go public or testify. A police detective working with the F.B.I., Louis Napoli, assures Mr. Salem in one conversation, "We can give you total immunity towards prosecution, towards, ah, ah, testifying." But he adds: "I still have to tell you that if you're the only game in town in regards to the information," then, he says, "you'll have to testify." Studied for Signs of Illegality The transcripts are being closely studied by lawyers looking for signs that Mr. Salem and the law enforcement officials, in their zeal to gather evidence, may have crossed the legal line into entrapment, a charge that defense counsel have already raised. But the transcripts show that the officials were concerned that by associating with bombing defendants awaiting trial in the Metropolitan Correctional Center, Mr. Salem might have been accused of spying on the defense. In an undated conversation, Mr. Anticev tries to explain the perils. "We're not allowed to have any information regarding that," he tells Mr. Salem. "That could jeopardize, you know, if you go see a lawyer, ah, you know, with the defendant's friend or whatever like that, and you're talking about things we're not suppose to, ah, condone that. We're not supposed to make people do that for us. That's like sacred ground. You can't be privileged, ah, you can't know what's being talked about at all." Mr. Salem seems to bridle. "I, I, I don't think that's right," he says. The agent insists: "Yeah, but that's just a guideline. If that ever happened, ah, you can back and reported on the meeting between, ah, you know, Kunstler and Mohammad A. Elgabrown. Forget about it. I mean a lot of people ah the case can get thrown out. You understand?" The references were to the defense lawyer, Mr. Kunstler, and his client in the second bomb case, Ibrahim A. Elgabrowny. Mr. Salem seems to reluctantly agree. "They want you to have a hand in it," Mr. Anticev goes on, "but they're afraid that when you get that kind of, ah, too deep, like me, it's almost like, especially with all this legal stuff going on right now." If it were just intelligence gathering, the agent says, "You can do anything you want. You could go crazy over there and have a good time. Do you know what I mean?" The agent goes on: "But now that everything is going to court and there is legal stuff and it's just, it's just too hard. It's just too tricky, if, this, you know. And then there's the fact if you come by with the big information, he did this, ah, let me talk about this with the other people again." "O.K.," Mr. Salem says. "All right. O.K." CORRECTION-DATE: October 29, 1993, Friday CORRECTION: An article yesterday about accounts of a plot to build a bomb that was eventually exploded at the World Trade Center referred imprecisely in some copies to what Federal officials knew about the plan before the blast. Transcripts of tapes made secretly by an informant, Emad A. Salem, quote him as saying he warned the Government that a bomb was being built. But the transcripts do not make clear the extent to which the Federal authorities knew that the target was the World Trade Center. "Then he added, still speaking to the agent: "You were informed. Everything is ready. The day and the time. Boom. Lock them up and that's that. That's why I feel so bad." FEDERAL BOMB INSTIGATORS 
"Oh My God, these bastards put bombs in here like they did in 1993!"
Firefighter Louie Cacchioli - Dean E. Murphy, September 11: An Oral History (New York: Doubleday, 2002)
Paul Isaac - Auxiliary Lieutenant Fireman - Greg Szymanski, "NY Fireman Lou Cacchioli Upset that 9/11 Commission 'Tried to Twist My Words'" Arctic Beacon.com, July 19, 2005.
Teresa Veliz, software developer, North Tower - BBC, Sept. 11, 2001.
Sue Keane, an officer in the New Jersey Fire Police Department who was previously a sergeant in the U.S. Army - John Bussey, "Eye of the Storm: One Journey Through Desperation and Chaos," Wall Street Journal, September 12, 2001.
Thomas Turilli, firefighter - Oral History of Craig Carlsen, 5-6. 
What are you people talking about?
The informer at the center of the Government's case in the plot to bomb New York City landmarks had a volatile relationship with his handlers, often quarreling with F.B.I. agents who used him to infiltrate a group of Muslim extremists who have been charged in the plot, according to transcripts of secretly taped conversations.
Transcripts of the hundreds of hours of tapes -- which were recorded by the informer, Emad A. Salem, without the knowledge of the F.B.I. -- were distributed to defense lawyers yesterday. Although Judge Michael B. Mukasey ordered the lawyers to keep them secret, a copy of the transcripts was made available to The New York Times.
"You were informed. Everything is ready. The day and the time. Boom. Lock them up and that's that. That's why I feel so bad." In several instances, the transcripts show Mr. Salem lecturing Federal agents on how to do their jobs, criticizing their surveillance and interview techniques. In one instance, he suggests that they tell a possible source that his phone was tapped, when in fact it was not, and that they confront the man and push him hard for information. "Don't give him a chance to think," Mr. Salem is quoted as saying. "If he will think it's, 'I want my lawyer.' Then bingo, you are gone."
L aw-enforcement officials were told that terrorists were building a bomb that was eventually used to blow up the World Trade Center, and they planned to thwart the plotters by secretly substituting harmless powder for the explosives, an informer said after the blast.
The informer was to have helped the plotters build the bomb and supply the fake powder, but the plan was called off by an F.B.I. supervisor who had other ideas about how the informer, Emad A. Salem, should be used, the informer said.
"Do you deny," Mr. Salem says he told the other agent, "your supervisor is the main reason of bombing the World Trade Center?" Mr. Salem said Mr. Anticev did not deny it. "We was handling the case perfectly well until the supervisor came and messed it up, upside down." The transcripts do not make clear the extent to which Federal authorities knew that there was a plan to bomb the World Trade Center, merely that they knew that a bombing of some sort was being discussed. But Mr. Salem's evident anguish at not being able to thwart the trade center blast is a recurrent theme in the transcripts. In one of the first numbered tapes, Mr. Salem is quoted as telling agent Floyd: "Since the bomb went off I feel terrible. I feel bad. I feel here is people who don't listen."
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#17. To: Uncle Bill (#16)
wooohooo!! what a great post, Uncle Bill!!
#18. To: Dempsy (#12)
I have no idea what you call a kook site and what you don't. Here it is from the Jersualem Post. And here is the original link. The list is made up of people who have not yet made contact with friends or family, Army Radio reported. Telephone connections between Israel and the New York City and Washington, D.C. areas has been sporadic and unreliable since the multiple attacks yesterday. Ten thousand people are estimated to have been killed in the New York attacks and another 800 in Washington. Several hundred also went down with the hijacked planes. But today, Alon Pinkas, Israel's consul general here, said that lists of the missing included reports from people who had called in because, for instance, relatives in New York had not returned their phone calls from Israel. There were, in fact, only three Israelis who had been confirmed as dead: two on the planes and another who had been visiting the towers on business and who was identified and buried.Can you show me a non-KooK link to this information?
And from the New York Times.
The Jerusalem Post (08:15 - Wed) Thousands of Israelis missing near WTC, Pentagon Wednesday September 12, 2001 The Foreign Ministry in Jerusalem has so far received the names of 4,000 Israelis believed to have been in the areas of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon at the time of the attack.
Out of 4000 Israelis that worked in the WTC only one died! ONE! No, they weren't forewarned, they just all got a tummy ache at the same time and took off that day. Yeah, right!
But interviews with many consulate officials yesterday suggested that the lists of people they were collecting varied widely in their usefulness. For example, the city had somehow received reports of many Israelis feared missing at the site, and President Bush in his address to the country on Thursday night mentioned that about 130 Israelis had died in the attacks.
God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#19. To: wakeup (#9)
HOLY SHIT... A plane passed over my house, and there was a shadow... I AM SO FUCKED!!!! In other news, the sky is actually orange. That is all.
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#20. To: Uncle Bill (#16)
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#21. To: christine (#17)
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#22. To: RickyJ (#10)
I've always wondered, with all the planning and logistics involved in bringing down the towers that day, why they didn't schedule their hits for 10:30-11:30 if they truly wanted a huge 'body count'. The buildings would have had their most optimum capacity during those times.
Yeah, and maybe 4,000 Israelis just all decided at once to stay home form work in the WTC towers that day.
#23. To: Kamala (#0)
When buildings are imploded, the explosives charges are placed at the base. That's why the buildings fall from the bottom up, never from the top down. The WTC fell from the top down, where the planes hit.
"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)
#24. To: YertleTurtle (#23)
Stick to your "Pug Bowling" threads.
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
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