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Title: A Homeless Solution: IF people care!
Source: Keeper of the Flame
URL Source: http://jimsorrell.proboards33.com
Published: Sep 5, 2006
Author: James Sorrell
Post Date: 2006-09-05 18:50:38 by CaptainChurch
Keywords: homeless, home, hope
Views: 275
Comments: 26

To ALL : --->Having experienced homelessness (by losing an investment), I see that current "shelters" are warehouses, the pinnacle of Tokenism, the visible tip of the iceberg. Everyone needs a home, to maintain a steady balance to succeed.....homeless people are on shifting sand! "Shelters" should be "clearing houses" ...(only a short stay & then re-located into the community)... a clearing house with a built in "buddy-system" ["matching" process begins the first day with someone who, like themselves, needs someone to look after their interests!] that prevents "drowning"; for even the oldest book says that it is "not good for man to be alone"...he just gets into trouble. A "clearing house" staff would get to know the person quickly and intensely (A predator wouldn't like to be known, so he flees the community.....which is your Best form of protection!).

People would work in the "clearing houses" that know the community and its' people, like matchmakers, matching up folks with a compatable job, and living with someone in their home. The same book says "Open your homes to strangers", and with proper human concern for the homeless first..... [instead of social "companies" who use the homeless for their funding & grants, jobs and their own homes & lives.....and are themselves the other problem, besides obscene community apathy nationwide.] .....with proper concern for the people themselves who need a home, and who could fit quickly into a community's job and housing structure, and complement it..... instead of herding the homeless out of sight into a warehouse.....or, in one case, a basement "sewer" [As single men in Madison, WI are treated, with very unsanitary conditions] Everyone needs a home....to grow into a mature, contributing community member & good neighbor, with a real life!

A model of such a new system should be set up, and then used everywhere for man's humanity to man! --->>>(Old folks who face having to leave their homes, because they can't take care of themselves adequately, and terrified of "old folks home/managed care facilities", could be properly matched up with a compatible homeless person, and both would benefit!) Best regards, James Sorrell

jamessorrell2003@yahoo.com


General - A Homeless Solution: IF people care! From: fuzzwald

A while ago, homelessness was seen as a problem that other countries had. Poorer countries. But, during the Reagan years, the idea took hold that homeless people deserved their predicament and/or wanted it. Limbaugh's "homeless update" was symptomatic of the cold hearted, greed headed, stupid rationalization of suffering that gets de-oderized and pawned off as conservative ideology. Now we have a whole generation of Americans who are none the wiser. (More recently, the same transformation of thought is being directed at democracy and the Bill of Rights. But that's for another discussion board.)

Almost any plan to aid the homeless is an improvement over the current state of affairs.


A Post Script story........

Kelcy Ruiz, a homeless man who was stabbed to death Monday, May 9, 2005. Homeless Man Dies Saving Woman * Defended Restaurateur From Intruder May 12, 2005 3:56 pm US/Pacific MIAMI (AP) ---A homeless man who did odd jobs for a local restaurateur was stabbed to death as he defended her against a knife-wielding intruder, authorities said. Kelcy Ruiz, 32, was mourned as a hero for coming to the aid of Melida Murillo during an attack Monday at her Colombian restaurant, Mama Leonor. Ruiz, described by relatives as a crack cocaine addict who lived mainly on Miami's downtown streets, did occasional work for Murillo in exchange for food. "Even though he was a forgotten member of society, he acted better than most people who are not homeless," said Detective Delrish Moss, spokesman for the Miami Police Department.

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#11. To: CaptainChurch (#0)

The author's immediate taking of scripture out of context closes the door immediately to anything else the person may have to say.

But going further, whatever gives him the idea that 'predators' will run..........just ask all the little dead children of late, notably in FLA, where predators did NOT leave, but rather lived among them.

As for blaming it on Reagan.........yeah.....go ahead.......heap all the bullshit on a dead guy.

Has this lunatic author really thought through exactly how 'a clearing staff person' would get to intimately know who all among a county of ll million plus people would be a perfect fit for anyone? The county I'm thinking of is Los Angeles County. I'm sure there are other large metro areas that could be stuck in place of this.

This is an absolute joke. I lived in a far out suburb of Los Angeles County and scarcely 'knew' my neighbors on either side. Or across the street, for that matter.

I currently live near a very small community--the whole county having perhaps 7,000 people......and you can't find anyone that knows them all.

Society having gone mobile many years ago effectively put a stop to this 'intimate' acquaintanceship stuff. Even more so is the evolution of societal norms/culture---even church congregations don't have the intimacy they once had.

Too bad the writer didn't quote chapter and verse of the statment that we're to open our homes to strangers, and provide the context.

rowdee  posted on  2006-09-09   14:20:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: rowdee (#11)

Too bad the writer didn't quote chapter and verse of the statment that we're to open our homes to strangers, and provide the context.

Isa 58:4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as [ye do this] day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

Isa 58:5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? [is it] to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes [under him]? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?

Isa 58:6 ¶ [Is] not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

Isa 58:7 [Is it] not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rereward.

Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I [am]. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

Isa 58:10 And [if] thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness [be] as the noonday: ..................

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa058.html#7

not saying it isn't a dangerous proposition these days, but a lot of people did it after Katrina - took in whole families of perfect strangers, but then we ARE called to trust in the LORD. And then there is this:

Mal 3:10 Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the LORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that [there shall] not [be room] enough [to receive it]....

http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Mal/Mal003.html#10

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-09   15:07:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#12)

Sounds like a bunch of socialist claptrap that absolves the government of their responsibility to take care of the homeless to me.

I mean, if I, as a private citizen am paying taxes and tithe to my government, and that government is giving money away to third world countries who hate us, they should be spending that money DOMESTICALLY and cleaning up the homeless problem. WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE EVERY DAY WHO ARE STARVING. WE HAVE HOMELESS PEOPLE IN OUR COUNTRY WHO NEED A PLACE TO LIVE. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO NEED JOBS IN ORDER TO GET OUT OF THE GUTTER. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE INSANE RUNNING THE STREETS, WHO SHOULD BE INSTITUTIONALIZED BECAUSE THEY ARE DANGEROUS.

Of course, this biblical nonsense has a context that most people don't understand. I as a private citizen through my tax dollars do all of the things mentioned. It's the stewards of that money who are NOT doing what they are obligated to do.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2006-09-09   16:19:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#24. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#19)

Tommy, the government doesn't care about people. That's not the nature of government. The government is about amassing wealth and control. The government is rebellion against God and His precepts. If God wants His people to look after others, government will take over the job until it gets the upper hand. We never had the problem with the homeless in this country, until the government started us on their Great Society programs. They created a bigger problem than they started with. It's all part of their dialectic process. If people were not taxed to the max, financially, emotionally, and time-wise, people could spend more time helping to lift others out of their pit.

I know you hate to be quoted the Bible, but for others, here's an appropriate one that describes government, ours in particular:

Amo 6:6 — That drink wine in bowls, and anoint themselves with the chief ointments: but they are not grieved for the affliction of Joseph.

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Amo/Amo006.html#6

see the related passage at Gen. 37:

http://www.blueletterbi ble.org/tsk_b/Amo/6/6.html

We've been sold into slavery, Tommy, just like Joseph. Joseph is symbolic of the House of Israel. Joseph/Israel is the low tree in Ezekiel 17:24, our government is synonymous with the second eagle in verses 1-10. As God delivered Joseph out of the pit wherein is no water [ http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen037.html#24 ], so will He deliver us:

Zec 9:11 ¶ As for thee also, by the blood of thy covenant I have sent forth thy prisoners out of the pit wherein [is] no water.

http://www.bluelett erbible.org/kjv/Zec/Zec009.html#11

God works through His people, until such time as He gets fed up, and takes the matter into His own hands.

If you feel your government should be doing something different, you could try getting some people together and put pressure on your government to do the right thing. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. They are not going to do the right thing unless someone raises a ruckus.

But this evil government is not going to last forever [ http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa009.html#6 ], thank God, and it will be up to WE, the people, to do the right thing.

see The Christmas Conspiracy

http://thechristmasconspiracy.com/

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-09 17:02:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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