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Title: Fundies Inside The Gates (Interesting explanation of why Fundie Christians are Zionist)
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Published: Sep 6, 2006
Author: GrpCaptMandrake
Post Date: 2006-09-06 13:34:26 by Ferret Mike
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I've been trying to explain to friends and family for years now the danger of the religious right in this country. The so-called "jesus freaks" began appearing in the '70's and were dismissed as being a bunch of nut-jobs. In the 80's they began their takeover of the political system in this country which has culminated with idiot boy stealing the presidency, not once, but twice.
Finally, someone who came out of our home-grown taliban has verified what I have known all along. They're out to get rid of us so jesus can come back. God save me from your followers.
Anyway. Here's the text of the post:
"GrpCaptMandrake (1000+ posts) Mon Jul-24-06 09:20 AM Original message Fundies Inside The Gates There's an ugly split on the Left these days. Some of us are called "Anti-Semite" because we hate war and refuse to support Israel's hell-on-earth bombing of innocents in Lebanon. Some of us are called "Zionist stooges" because we support Israel's right to exist. Some of us, like me, are called "delusional" because we think there is a better way; a way that leads to peace and security for all involved.
What is most obvious, however, is that the whole world aches for a leader. Here in the U.S., that ache takes the form of wishing we had a statesman in the White House instead of what appears to be a do-less imbecile who chews with his mouth open, has the vocabulary of a drunken sailor and gropes German Chancellors.
Some "experts" explain away this do-less-ness as a function of Bush's blind, "Zionist" support for Israel. Some see it as a Rovian machination to take the focus off the bloody meat-grinder that is Iraq. Some see it as a means of driving Iran and Syria into such a frenzy they'll provide causus belli for an expansion of Bush's mid-East mayhem.
In seeking the reasons for the profound lack of leadership displayed by the Bush Administration during this horror in Lebanon and Israel, most analysts are ignoring the 900 pound gorilla in the room: radical American Religion Industry Fundamentalism. I'm not and I won't.
Being a Recovering Southern Baptist (TM) myself, I can report to you from the belly of the Beast.
This administration is controlled by a Radical Fundamentalist Christianity more dangerous by far than any Iranian mullah. That fundamentalism is manifested in the words of Falwell, of Dobson, of Robertson, of D. James Kennedy and a host of other Generals in the so-called culture wars. This is no conspiracy theory. Control of the government of the United States has been the stated goal of the Fundamentalist Radicals for quite some time now. And now they've got the bit in their teeth and they're going at a full gallop.
Remember when Dobson tried to quell conservative fears about Harriet Miers' competence by saying he had the inside skinny on how she'd rule? Remember when General Jerry Boykin blithely announced that the U.S. is in a holy war against Islam? Remember when George W. Bush gladly accepted the advice of the Southern Baptist Convention that Jesus wanted him to invade Iraq? These are all manifestations of the profound control that Radical Fundamentalist Christianity now has over the White House.
All of these power-mad men demand that George Bush now take a step back and allow unfettered carnage to be the order of the day in the Levant because they hold to a belief system that says Jesus will return when things get "hot" enough in the Middle East to fulfill their twisted reading of "prophecy."
George Bush, in turn, lets them know he's on their side when he says Jesus is his favorite philosopher; when he says there won't be any history, that "we'll all be dead."
Among other things, the Fundies cite the "Parable of the Fig Tree" (Matthew, Chapter 24, vv. 32-34) to put a date on the so-called "End Times."
"Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near. So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near- at the doors! Assuredly, I say to you this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place."
In current apocalyptic Radical Fundamentalist Christianity, that parable stands in for the 1948 establishment of the State of Israel. "Summer" is the time when Jesus is supposed to get in his Holy Rolls and come zooming back to earth "on the clouds of heaven" (v. 30).
There's a heap of other stuff in Chapter 24 that shows what Jesus was talking about. Scholars differ. Some say he was describing the impending doom of Jerusalem that followed only a few decades later when Titus, sick of the bickering and warfare, simply leveled Jerusalem. Others think these words may have been put in Jesus' mouth after the fact by an author who wanted to show that Jesus was the Real Deal.
But that's all far too easy for the Fundies. They have to turn these words into a prophecy that suits their taste for blood and mayhem. They have to apply it to the Now. That started in the mid-19th century with an English Theologian named Darby.
The latest manifestation of this apocalyptic business started in the 1950s, after the formation of Israel, however, as "Hooo, boy! He'll be here any minute!" When that didn't happen, the apocalypticists changed it to "He'll be here in a generation." (See above) The generation passed. Still no Jesus.
Meanwhile, Hal Lindsey was making a fortune predicting the imminent demise of the world with books like "The Late Great Planet Earth" and "The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon."
And you must surely respond "Yeah, yeah, Kincaid. So what?"
"So what," indeed! So let me, raised in that fetid Fundie Southern Baptist stew, clue you mainstream Episcopals and Catholics and Lutherans and Presbyterians and Jews and Muslims and Atheists and Agnostics who go about your business and never cast a glance toward the weird fringes of Christianity into the 4-1-1 of what the Fundies have in store for you if they aren't stopped.
Let me tell you, in no uncertain terms, that the Fundies dream of, nay, yearn for, a day when the suffering of humanity will make the depredations and horrors of the Second World War look like a day at the amusement park; for they ache to see a day when all of humanity will be tormented in a "Great Tribulation," at the end of which Christ will return (again; note: that makes twice he will have returned. Go figure) and "every knee shall bow" to Him, as I was taught in the Southern Baptist Church.
Now here's the fun part. In Apocalyptic Fundamentalism, it goes without saying that not every knee shall bow. And by "bow to Him," the Fundies mean "believe like we believe." Guess what happens to those who don't!
The Fundies get to put them to the sword! That's right! (Game Show Announcer Voice) "A BRAND.NEW.HOLOCAUST!" 'Cause Jesus v.2.1 (Beta) tells them to! Somewhere. In the Bible. Someplace. In a prophecy. It's really rather enigmatic. Only the Fundies have the magic power to discern the meaning. But He said it! They know because they believe it. I'm not kidding.
Doubt me? Have a thumb-through of Tim LaHaye's literally God-awful "Left Behind" series. While it's put out there as "fiction," millions and millions of American Fundies have read it as gospel. And in it, getting to kill the unbelievers is some of the biggest fun. After all, "gospel" means "good news." And to them, getting to do a whole boatload of wanton murder is "good news."
After all, they've even released a video game for children called "Left Behind." In it, you're a soldier for Jesus who goes around a post-apocalypse New York City killing homosexuals, Jews, Muslims and various other sorts of "unbelievers."
This, then, is why George Bush is standing back and allowing the slaughter to mount up both in Israel and Lebanon. This is why the United States, instead of counseling peace, ramped up production of fresh bombs for Israel. This is why the Fundies over at http://www.raptureready.com are vibrating like struck tuning forks.
But don't believe me. Go and Google "Christian Reconstructionists" and "Christian Dominionists." Read LaHaye. Read Lindsey. Spend as long as you can watching the Trinity Broadcasting Network without throwing up. Read the beliefs of these Fundie sects in their own words. They'll tell you: after Jesus comes back, they get to start killing Jews. It's cold comfort that they also get to start killing everyone else who doesn't believe like they do. It's the Jews, though, that they're really excited about killing.
A long, long time ago, a pretty young girl tried to tell an aging king about the dangers of accepting things at face value.
These Fundies aren't on auto-pilot. They're actively pursuing a course of action that they fervently believe will literally end the world. They dread any peacemaker as "the Antichrist," their Boogeyman of the Apocalypse. They are sharpening their swords: for you, for me and for all those we hold dear.
I know this is difficult to comprehend. But it's real. It's real enough it should turn your bowels to water just thinking about it.
But it probably won't. I understand.
That pretty little girl I mentioned a couple of paragraphs back? Her name was Cassandra. Priam was the king. Troy was their home. And their whole world came to an end because no one heard when she warned of the perils of hollow horsecraft.
The Trojan Horse that is Fundamentalist Christianity isn't sitting out on the beach. It's already inside the Capitol gates. And most of us on the Left are sitting around wondering why it makes that hollow sound when we thump it."
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#14. To: bluegrass (#11)
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Think of L. Frank Baum's Book, 'The Wizard of Oz.' How the lesson of the ruby slippers was, the solution was right there before Dorothy the entire time. Anyone who knows that organization knows their good work is right up front. Usually people like you go right into "yes but..." mode. You have made very insulting and ignorant accusations that I work for these people. Naturally such arrogance and hubris deserves no direct answer in the realm these accusations were made. Paranoia is your worst enemy, and I frankly don't have to feed it if I don't want to. You are just going to have to stew alone in that hot tub, I ain't playing.
...and you're an expert on "hate" because you did a book report on it in school. HA! You are an Ebenezer Scrooge with empathy, bluegrass. I'm a careful shopper. My empathy isn't for people that defend traitorous outfits like the ADL. I am amused you treat feedback and a friendly post with a vindictive hook at the end. You have yet to apologize for your earlier comments to me on this board. You began the vindictive BS with unwarranted threats and insults, not me. If you can't back up the crap you speak, don't speak it. I can back up my claims. You have yet to be able to do so.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Good point. This article is another manifestation of "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" And you still can't name one "good work" of the ADL. You make the claim, you back it up. It's not on me for asking you to back up your statements with something approaching proof.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
The piece is what Free Republic calls a "vanity." The name is an account name like your's and mine. All I know is the piece is good. It is well written, and this person knows what they are talking about. I have not been over there long enough to know this guy well, or if he is open about his true name as I am or not, like most people are in forums these days.
You have been told where you need to back down off of a paranoid delusion. Where you are going warrants input concerning the problems with your approach, so this is what I give you, nothing more. As I've said before; I am not going on the defensive with you. The false accusations and the kangaroo court they serve are your problems, not mine.
Asking you to back up a statement isn't "paranoid". Speaking of paranoia, another odd thing about this piece is the ooga-booga it throws out regarding "It's the Jews, though, that they're really excited about killing" while ignoring, utterly, the rape and slaughter of Arabs and Muslims that Zionists and their flying rapture monkeys are committing as we post on this board. (Note to Christine: I was flagged to this thread. Recall our earlier conversation, please.)
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Accusing me of working for people I haven't even met or know is. It poisons the well. As for the content of the piece, I found it on a blog and traced this piece back to DU with the citation the blog owner gave. I shared it here because it taught me some facts I did not know. Like any piece anyone posts not written by them, I am not responsible for any nuances of the verbiage. Christine says you are actually a good guy, I took a leap of faith in her judgment and am exercising courtesy. The thread is within the purview of your interest, therefore a ping is not anything to go ballistic over. ;-)
I no longer make that claim and I haven't made it anywhere on this thread. Who's paranoid? Christine says you are actually a good guy She's an excellent judge of character. If you'll simply apologize for your threats I'll be civil to you. I'd surpass civility if you could ever attempt to back up your ridiculous claims about the ADL's "good work".
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
You have rescinded nothing. You are an exasperating person to talk to, but I have not threatened you. You infer you make no accusations any longer and you grasp at straws to put me on the defensive still. I was in combat arms long enough to be wonder at your desire to flog a dead horse on this as long as you do. I sense a rhetorical kill zone, I don't walk into them. Even if I did, when in a kill zone I assault in the direction of an ambush, I am not going to waste my time fighting WW III with you. I discuss many things involving government and politics, I've done it a long time and do not mind talking about pretty much anything. But I am not channeled, cowed, or bullied. You actually don't want an answer to your question anyway. You have already said you can find such answers that you consider just so much nonsense on Free Republic anyway. You have other things in mind, not getting answers in this contrivance of yours'. Persisting to try to badger me into your sight picture and trying to belittle me will never ever have the desired effect.
I just caught this: "That started in the mid-19th century with an English Theologian named Darby." Cyrus Schofield was influenced by Darby. That this writer can invoke Darby and ignore Scofield would indicate to me that he's engaging in conscious diversion.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
You're a liar. Ferret Mike to bluegrass, 2006-09-01 18:21:21 ET "We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
You are always welcome to your opinion, but I see no diabolical conspiracy in this person's writing. You just can't bring yourself to ever stop assuming the worst in others, especially when it serves your purpose. Someone quoted is alleged to be influenced by another. That doesn't add up to very much. But it is an excellent example of what I was talking about earlier about how you do things. I do not feel the least bit of guilt that I find this to be something else that makes me sigh and roll my eyes.
You're a proven liar that also defends traitors. Your opinion is now meaningless.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Cyrus Schofield was influenced by Darby. That this writer can invoke Darby and ignore Scofield would indicate to me that he's engaging in conscious diversion. Possibly, although he may not be aware. This would not be the first 'fad' in the span of Christian history.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Possibly. Of the two, Darby is more obscure than Scofield. I find it almost impossible that someone claiming to be ex-Southern Baptist would know of Darby and not Scofield. The two names are linked when doing even a little study of dispensationalism.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Each cell member only knows what it needs to know.
Dispensationalism was initially crafted by the Catholic Church during the Reformation to keep people from leaving. It didn't last long. It is no surprise that it would be dusted off and used again.
Press 1 to proceed in English. Press 2 for Deportation.
Heh, except I haven't lied and you have proved nothing. All you have done here is cut to the chase where you were going with your witch hunt style of interrogatory. You strike me as someone who wants your message to serve you. You also orbit conflict and a bottomless well of vindictiveness and hatred. I feel sorry for you. Always doomed to find conflict, conspiracy and hatred, to always need to be the head guru as you chant your mantra-like line of loathings. Good luck with that exercise wheel you turn as you run in place. ;-)
Exactly. And the people who influence people are influenced by people who also were influenced by people. One can really drive oneself crazy games of supposition that vague. I like posting pieces that teach me something and hearing what others have to say about them. Too bad some just want to find fault in everything the author of the piece or that you do to try to gain a response of one dog bearing it's belly to another dog from people. I have learned to learn why people try to control the flow so hard they try to make doing anything in forum a pain in the ass unless you go along with their program. As everyone does what they do with what is to them good intentions. When you figure out what those are, you are well along the path to backward engineering their mindset enough to see how they actually think, not how they say they think. You are quite an honest quester for the truth robin. And the intellect and sense of adventure and excitement you bring to the task makes you a pleasure to read. Never change. ;-)
Excellent article!.. I do think there is a bit more to this than what is revealed in this article.. these people the religious right dimbulbs are so blinded that they cant see theyre being manipulated and absolutely misled.. the religious are being led for political .. well I wont say gain.. for many would think I was speaking of monetary gain which of course is a part, although it be small part, of this.. it's about LAND.. power.. those damned and YES damned .. fools will they ever awaken? What will it take?
Thanks, yes I enjoyed it to. I am now trying to understand the nuances of Dispensationalist theology,Covenant Theology, and other Protestant theological nuances I dealt with in passing and never understood. All in all this not only is a good piece, but the discussion has given me insight to the hows and whys of the actions of people some critics have pejoratively called practitioners of Judeophilia. Having never taken Christianity seriously in terms of belief, it is good to flesh out the underpinnings of thinking that are foundational to the how, where, what and whys of the people talked about in this piece. And all in all this is why I find this forum much more interesting then I first thought it would be when I came here. And things some of the discussion here cover are why this is so. ;-)
Very kind of you to say Mike. I'll try to live up to those gracious words, (but don't count it)! It's good that some here read critically, however I tend to gloss over the mundane details and look for the general message. Both tactics are good to have and hear from.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Thank Mike.. not much is off the table here as far as discussion.. and IMO we have some of the most informed posters on any forum.. (and BTW that DOES include you :P) Now what you may find interesting re dispensationalist theology.. This is quite new as far as Christianity is concerned was NOT considered orthodox whatsoever..I dont know if you've read anything about Cyrus Scofield..(heres a link from Wikipedia about him..it leaves out MUCH of his shady past and his poltical connections: ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyrus_I._Scofield ) he lived in the mid 1800s and died in 1921..and had NO formal religious training.. there was a shift I'd say in the late 70s and 80s towards what is called premilliennalism.. much was due to Scofield's bible.. with NOTES written by it is said Scofield but there is some controversy in regard to that.. also Scofield was connected to a seminary which became Moody Bible Institute. here is an overview re Scofield ..much is biblically referenced but you will get the drift:
You even lie about lying.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Not only am I not lying, I don't give a crap about your egocentric, self- righteous little spin lying about whether I am lying about lying.
Thanks for the tip and link.
You give a crap. If not, you wouldn't have responded. This is easy to fix. All you have to do is apologize for threatening me.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Heh, I always respond when I am amused. And yeah sure, I'm going to threaten an anonymous poster when I fully identify who I am and the city where I live....right. "Bartender, I'll have what he's having." ;-D Not to mention being against capital punishment, I would not want to be judge jury and the administer of corporal punishment pertaining to you. First and foremost, I don't know what you may have stuck in your arm or who you went to bed with, so the last thing I am going to bother with is trading blood with you. Even if you showed up here laddie, I would probably take you down to the coffee house and chew the fat with you, because even when I get annoyed, I never stay angry, especially when I don't know the person trying to incite me to consternation very well. I know your account name, but not you. In any event, thanks for sharing once more. I am entertained.
What kind of Irishman are you????? Coffee???? Probably Starbucks??????? Buy the man a drink for criss sake....
Whatever. If you're not a big enough man to apologize for threatening someone, you're small enough to do God knows what. I no longer believe you to be working for anyone. I think you're just disturbed.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
heh.... I know, I know, my bad. I'm a disgrace to my kinfolk for not drinking alcoholic libations. ;-D I go to where they serve organic shade grown café Mam from Chiapas, Mexico. I prefer where I go because it is where it is easy to go around the corner to do social smoke. Something we have in Eugene, Oregon in plentiful supply. It is none of your business how big that is, and I am Wiccan, Goddess know why you would dress her in drag and call her a God. ;-) It is true that they say it takes one to know one, but in this case you are merely projecting. In any event, apology accepted.
Talk about projection...
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
Heehee, knew you'd appreciate that. ;-D
Another reason I like going down there is I always go hang out with like minded folks; Jerry's kids. Jerry Garcia that is. ;-) (Note to bluegrass, I think they were trying to do a Star of David in that graphic, but you know Hippies, they work stoned and unable to keep count of how many points the star has.) ;-D
Congrats. In all my years on the net, you're the first person I've ever put on a bozo filter. Bye.
"We can make a natural alliance through the ownership of the great industries of the world and through the sharing of their profits." -Lord Charles Beresford, in a 1903 speech to the (Anglo-American-Jewish) Pilgrims Society.
I really don't care what you do in the realm of killfile. That is your problem, not mine. ;-D
speakin' of smoke, hehehe, if you grill or have a fireplace, you might like this. "Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. linux user - grp mandrake
"Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. hahaha... tilting at windmills volley
"Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. Thanks Omerta. :)
"Alas, how many have been persecuted for the wrong of having been right?" -- Jean-Baptiste Say (1767-1832) Source: A Treatise on Political Economy, 1803 "You have not converted a man because you have silenced him." -- John Morley (1838-1923) Source: Critical Miscellanies"This from the guy that can't even answer a simple question."
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
I have been an activist many years
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
Think of L. Frank Baum's Book, 'The Wizard of Oz.'
#17. To: jessejane (#13)
"GrpCaptMandrake"
#18. To: bluegrass (#16)
"And you still can't name one "good work" of the ADL. You make the claim, you back it up. It's not on me for asking you to back up your statements with something approaching proof."
#19. To: Ferret Mike, Cynicom, christine (#18)
You have been told where you need to back down off of a paranoid delusion.
#20. To: bluegrass (#19)
"Asking you to back up a statement isn't "paranoid"."
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#20)
Accusing me of working for people I haven't even met or know is.
#22. To: bluegrass (#21)
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"I no longer make that claim and I haven't made it anywhere on this thread. Who's paranoid?"
"If you'll simply apologize for your threats I'll be civil to you."
"I'd surpass civility if you could ever attempt to back up your ridiculous claims about the ADL's "good work"."
#23. To: Lady X, noone 222, Brian S, christine, Zipporah, robin, Zoroaster, BTP Holdings, Ferret Mike, Brian S, Jethro Tull, Tauzero, Red Jones, mugwort, Peetie Wheatstraw, HOUNDDAWG, Uncle Bill, Dakmar, tom007, aristeides, Eoghan, Cynicom, loner (#0)
#24. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Neil McIver, Zipporah (#22)
I have not threatened you.
I hope the management and the posters here can see you for what you are.
You should worry, because even though I do not work with the ADL, I am smart and have enough training and education to cause you heartache.
#25. To: bluegrass (#23)
"Cyrus Schofield was influenced by Darby. That this writer can invoke Darby and ignore Scofield would indicate to me that he's engaging in conscious diversion."
#26. To: Ferret Mike (#25)
I see no diabolical conspiracy in this person's writing.
#27. To: bluegrass (#23)
"That started in the mid-19th century with an English Theologian named Darby."
#28. To: robin (#27)
#29. To: robin (#27)
Possibly, although he may not be aware.
What really hit home for me was when my Croatian limo driver complained about having to learn Spanish.
#30. To: bluegrass (#28)
#31. To: bluegrass (#26)
"You're a proven liar that also defends traitors. Your opinion is now meaningless."
#32. To: robin (#27)
"Possibly, although he may not be aware."
#33. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#34. To: Zipporah (#33)
#35. To: Ferret Mike (#32)
#36. To: Ferret Mike (#34)
#37. To: Ferret Mike (#31)
I haven't lied
#38. To: bluegrass (#37)
"You even lie about lying."
#39. To: Zipporah (#36)
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#38)
Not only am I not lying, I don't give a crap about your egocentric, self- righteous little spin lying about whether I am lying about lying.
#41. To: bluegrass (#40)
(Edited)
"You give a crap. If not, you wouldn't have responded. This is easy to fix. All you have to do is apologize for threatening me."
#42. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
I would probably take you down to the coffee house
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#41)
#44. To: Jethro Tull (#42)
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"What kind of Irishman are you????? Coffee???? Probably Starbucks??????? Buy the man a drink for criss sake...."
#45. To: bluegrass (#43)
"If you're not a big enough man to apologize for threatening someone, you're small enough to do God knows what."
"I no longer believe you to be working for anyone. I think you're just disturbed."
#46. To: Ferret Mike (#45)
In any event, apology accepted.
#47. To: bluegrass (#46)
"Talk about projection..."
#48. To: Jethro Tull, bluegrass (#42)
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#49. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
#50. To: bluegrass (#49)
"Congrats. In all my years on the net, you're the first person I've ever put on a bozo filter."
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#44)
social smoke
i found the vendor at the Celtic World Festival in Cincinnati two years ago.
But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing."-- Thomas Paine
#52. To: jessejane (#13)
But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing."-- Thomas Paine
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#2)
Thumping on the wooden horse ping
But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing."-- Thomas Paine
#54. To: omerta (#52)
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