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Title: Does God want you to be rich?
Source: Time
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/09/10/time.cover.tm/index.html
Published: Sep 11, 2006
Author: Time
Post Date: 2006-09-11 01:39:54 by Morgana le Fay
Keywords: None
Views: 547
Comments: 27

Editor's note: The following is a summary of this week's Time magazine cover story.

http://(Time.comexternal link) -- In three of the Gospels, Jesus warns that each of his disciples may have to "deny himself" and even "take up his Cross."

In support of this prediction, he contrasts the fleeting pleasures of today with the promise of eternity: "For what profit is it to a man," he asks, "if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?"

Generations of churchgoers have understood that being Christian means being ready to sacrifice. But for a growing number of Christians, the question is better restated, "Why not gain the whole world plus my soul?"

For several decades, a philosophy has been percolating in the 10 million-strong Pentecostal wing of Christianity that seems to turn the Gospels' passage on its head. Certainly, it allows, Christians should keep one eye on heaven. But the new good news is that God doesn't want us to wait.

Known (or vilified) under a variety of names -- Word of Faith, Health and Wealth, Name It and Claim It, Prosperity Theology -- its emphasis is on God's promised generosity in this life. In a nutshell, it suggests that a God who loves you does not want you to be broke.

Its signature verse could be John 10:10: "I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly." In a Time poll, 17 percent of Christians surveyed said they considered themselves part of such a movement, while a full 61 percent believed that God wants people to be prosperous.

"Prosperity" first blazed to public attention as the driveshaft in the moneymaking machine that was 1980s televangelism and faded from mainstream view with the Jim Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart scandals.

But now, after some key modifications (which have inspired some to redub it Prosperity Lite), it has not only recovered but is booming.

Of the four biggest megachurches in the country, three -- Joel Osteen's Lakewood in Houston; T.D. Jakes' Potter's House in south Dallas; and Creflo Dollar's World Changers in Atlanta -- are Prosperity or Prosperity Lite pulpits (although Jakes' ministry has many more facets).

While they don't exclusively teach that God's riches want to be in believers' wallets, it is a key part of their doctrine.

And propelled by Osteen's 4 million-selling book, Your Best Life Now, the belief has swept beyond its Pentecostal base into more buttoned-down evangelical churches, and even into congregations in the more liberal Mainline. It is taught in hundreds of non-Pentecostal Bible studies. One Pennsylvania Lutheran pastor even made it the basis for a sermon series for Lent, when Christians usually meditate on why Jesus was having His Worst Life Then.

The movement's renaissance has infuriated a number of prominent pastors, theologians and commentators. Fellow megapastor Rick Warren, whose book The Purpose Driven Life has outsold Osteen's by a ratio of 7 to 1, finds the very basis of Prosperity laughable. "This idea that God wants everybody to be wealthy?" he snorts. "There is a word for that: baloney. It's creating a false idol. You don't measure your self-worth by your net worth. I can show you millions of faithful followers of Christ who live in poverty. Why isn't everyone in the church a millionaire?"

The brickbats -- both theological and practical (who really gets rich from this?) --come especially thick from Evangelicals like Warren. Evangelicalism is more prominent and influential than ever before. Yet the movement, which has never had a robust theology of money, finds an aggressive philosophy advancing within its ranks that many of its leaders regard as simplistic, possibly heretical and certainly embarrassing.

Prosperity's defenders claim to be able to match their critics chapter and verse. They caution against broad-brushing a wide spectrum that ranges from pastors who crassly solicit sky's-the-limit financial offerings from their congregations to those whose services tend more toward God-fueled self-help.

Advocates note Prosperity's racial diversity -- a welcome exception to the American norm -- and point out that some Prosperity churches engage in significant charity. And they see in it a happy corrective for Christians who are more used to being chastened for their sins than celebrated as God's children.

"Who would want to get in on something where you're miserable, poor, broke and ugly and you just have to muddle through until you get to heaven?" asks Joyce Meyer, a popular television preacher and author often lumped in the Prosperity Lite camp. "I believe God wants to give us nice things."

If nothing else, Meyer and other new-breed preachers broach a neglected topic that should really be a staple of Sunday messages: Does God want you to be rich?

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#1. To: Morgana le Fay (#0)

While they don't exclusively teach that God's riches want to be in believers' wallets, it is a key part of their doctrine.

And propelled by Osteen's 4 million-selling book, Your Best Life Now, the belief has swept beyond its Pentecostal base into more buttoned-down evangelical churches, and even into congregations in the more liberal Mainline. It is taught in hundreds of non-Pentecostal Bible studies. One Pennsylvania Lutheran pastor even made it the basis for a sermon series for Lent, when Christians usually meditate on why Jesus was having His Worst Life Then. ...

"Who would want to get in on something where you're miserable, poor, broke and ugly and you just have to muddle through until you get to heaven?" asks Joyce Meyer, a popular television preacher and author often lumped in the Prosperity Lite camp. "I believe God wants to give us nice things."

Well, this is nothing new. Mammon was worshipped as a god before Christ was born, and there is a reason for Mammon's popularity. It sounds Great! God wants me to be RICH! You CAN have your cake and eat it, too.

What a pile.

A man cannot serve two masters at the same time, for he will love one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Mammon (money).

Some smart guy said that, and its still true.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-11   10:10:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluedogtxn (#1)

What a pile.

A man cannot serve two masters at the same time, for he will love one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Mammon (money).

this is true, but there is a new revelation in fundamentalist mega-churches: 'the more you talk about Jesus, the less you have to behave like him.'

this gives the people there a little more leeway in what they do.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-09-11   10:13:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Morgana le Fay (#2)

this is true, but there is a new revelation in fundamentalist mega-churches: 'the more you talk about Jesus, the less you have to behave like him.'

Yep, that's what this gospel really means.

When you read the letters and Acts section of the New Testament, with communal property and folks being struck dead for lying about the money they held back, you realize that the first Christians had more in common with COMMIES than they have with our materialistic society.

When you see the fortress caves of Cappodocia where the early Christians lived and worshipped, and realize that without these labrynthine fortresses they would not have survived in a world that despised them, you feel a little embarrassed for the Money/Fame/State/War worshipping Christian churches of today.

Christ specifically warned about worshipping Money and Fame and The State; and replacing the worship of God with the worship of Kings; Else what means "Render unto God what is God's" (the forgotten half of the famous "render unto Caesar" quote).

We have three solid points of identity as people. Our Faith, our ethnicity and our nation.

Judaism was originally a war-religion, with God demanding that the Jews (defined racially) kill others and take territory, as such it connected Faith, Nation and Ethnicity; Islam was originally a war-religion without the ethnicity requirement, and combined Faith and Nation. Christianity was NOT originally a war religion, and was founded on Faith by itself; with neither Nation nor Ethnicity as a unifying factor.

In every attempt man makes to tie Christianity to war or nation or money or fame; man is inconsistent.

Non-violence, humility, charity and tolerance (ie-multiculturalism) are the hallmarks of original Christianity; worship of money and the state and war and such are the hallmarks of paganism.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-11   10:43:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: bluedogtxn, all (#7)

This whole gospel of prosperity nonsense makes me think that frequently Man creates God in his own image, rather than the other way around.

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-11   11:04:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mehitable (#9)

This whole gospel of prosperity nonsense makes me think that frequently Man creates God in his own image, rather than the other way around.

Well, that's the bitch of it, isn't it? God wants sane, rational people in his churches; but sane and rational people have to be repelled at the money worshipping, state-bootlicking, social-standing praying, and hedonistic parctices of mainstream evangelical churches...

The bottom line for the religious is this, there's a strait gate and a narrow path and a wide gate and a broad path. The wide gate goes to hell and the strait gate gets you to heaven. The relative widths of the paths hasn't changed, and the vast majority of people will get faith wrong.

If you aren't particularly religious, you won't find anything in the main churches to attract you; unless you are attracted by the wrong things. I consider myself to be both rational and a Christian. That's more and more a contradiction, seemingly.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-11   11:35:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: bluedogtxn, everyone here (#16)

And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)

The Great Commission - it says nothing about building huge churches, or even small ones.

Lod  posted on  2006-09-11   11:44:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lodwick (#17)

it says nothing about building huge churches, or even small ones.

And that comes from a carpenter!

Seriously, Jesus didn't go around building these huge edifices and calling them churches. The 'church' is the outcalled ones--called out of humanity to be a follower of Jesus Christ.

I remember as a kid of 10 or so attending church services in a tent on a lot that this group of people had purchased. They were attempting to stay out of debt, so they were actively saving a building fund.

Being in the Valley (San Fernando) in So=Cal, there were lots of trademen, so when the fund level was right, they started building.

I can remember going to the site on Saturdays and helping keep the junk picked up (cut off ends of 2x4s, etc). It seemed like it took forever, but there was a method. After the foundation was laid and cured, then came the stud walls and the roof. It took time to get the walls filled in with plywood, drywall, and stained glass windows--not fancy ones with pictures, but merely colored glass.

The whole time we continued meeting in the big tent.

Before the chapel sanctuary was completed, there began a drive for each family to pay for a pew. They knew this would be a drawn out affair, but by paying a few dollars each week towards the goal, it eventually worked. Til then, we used the folding chairs from the tent!

That building has now been torn down in the name of progress, so apartment buildings could be constructed.

Over at the ranch, we talked with the old folks we purchased it from a lot. Once when we were talking, the subject of church and religion came up, and Henry said something to the effect that he had the greatest cathedral ever==as he spread his arm out to encompass the mountains, the pine trees, the river, and the productive land........and he looked heavenward.

As far as I'm concerned, ol Henry had it more right than what they're passing off as churches and religion today.

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#22. To: rowdee (#20)

As far as I'm concerned, ol Henry had it more right than what they're passing off as churches and religion today.

Morning, Dee.

I'm with Henry on this one.

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