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Title: 9/11 Radio Transmissions
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What Really Happened
URL Source: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc2_firefighters.html
Published: Sep 11, 2006
Author: Michael Rivero
Post Date: 2006-09-11 22:37:16 by FormerLurker
Keywords: 9/11, WTC, firefighters
Views: 304
Comments: 36
9/11 Radio Transmissions The transmissions document that only isolated pockets of fire were reported by the firefighters, so where was the all-consuming inferno? Also of note is the fact that these transmissions were made seconds before WTC 2's collapse. There were supposedly massive structural failings occurring in this section of the building at this time... Quick transcript of firefighters' tape extract Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones." Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?" Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower." Ladder 15: "Floor 78?" Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here." Battalion Seven Chief: "Tower one. Battalion Seven to Ladder 15. Fifteen." Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm going to need two of your firefighters Adam stairway to knock down two fires. We have a house line stretched we could use some water on it, knock it down, kay." Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're coming up the stairs. We're on 77 now in the B stair, I'll be right to you." Battalion Seven Operations Tower One: "Battalion Seven Operations Tower One to Battalion Nine, need you on floor above 79. We have access stairs going up to 79, kay." Battalion Nine: "Alright, I'm on my way up Orio." See also: Mainstream 9/11: The Art of Overlooking the Obvious
of WTC 2 FirefightersThis wma file is an extract from the The Complete Firefighters Tape and it contains the final transmissions made by firefighters located in the aircraft impact area of WTC 2 (floors 77 and 78). Floor 78 was officially being ravaged by an 800ºC inferno at this time. 
Video showing the WTC collapse as proposed by the "truss theory". 
Source: BBC News ...yet no mention is made of this. The firefighters should have been screaming "the building's coming down, everybody get out!", instead they are calmly preparing to move up to the 79th floor.
Excerpts from The Memory Hole transcript
The 9/11 WTC Collapses: An Audio-Video Analysis
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#1. To: honway, aristeides, SKYDRIFTER, Burkeman1, robin, Zipporah, christine, All (#0)
They say the fire was so hot it melted steel and caused both towers to collapse, eh?
The massive steel beams all got "rubbery" and then the building collapsed into itself. Happens all the time.
Archive.Org has the full set of audio. I highly recommend listening to all of it, but if you just want to hear the firefighters in the tower, listen to "Port Authority Audio Repeater". http://www.archive.org /details/911_fdny_dispatches You will hear how calmy the situation is reported from the 78th floor. If the floors were sagging almost down to floor below as some of the GCT folks say, I would think that a NYFD batallion chief would have mentioned something about it.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
I can't cook a steak in the broiler without the whole range collapsing...! Fortunately, it always falls symmetrically into its footprint, without damaging the other stuff in the kitchen...! Wish they had "steak" coverage in my homeowner's policy.... :P
Well, it happened three times at least, all on that same day. Fire melts steel before it gets too hot for human flesh, according to the goobers that swallow the lies hook, line, and sinker..
the Windsor building in Madrid burned for 24+ hours and didn't collapse. a collapse from fire never happened before, since, or on 911.
My steel fry pans melt every time a try to fry an egg. I go through a lot of them...
I can't cook a steak in the broiler without the whole range collapsing...! Fortunately, it always falls symmetrically into its footprint, without damaging the other stuff in the kitchen...! Wish they had "steak" coverage in my homeowner's policy.... :P lol!
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers With total time from impact to collapse at 56 minutes for WTC 2 and 102 minutes for WTC 1, seems to me most people should have realized the story is a crock long ago. Are people really that dumb?
Thanks for that info Critter. Hopefully, more people will use the available evidence and open their eyes to the fact the propaganda fed to them by the news media is not just ridiculously flawed, but flies in the face of the actual data.
hmmmmm...who should we ask? ;)
I'd ask BAC, but I can't as I no longer post on that other forum.
Buckling Steel - Dr. Shyam Sunder, lead investigator for NIST's building and fire safety investigation into the WTC disaster, said, "While the buildings were able to withstand the initial impact of the aircraft, the resulting fires that spread through the towers weakened support columns and floors that had fireproofing dislodged by the impacts. This eventually led to collapse as the perimeter columns were pulled inward by the sagging floors and buckled." First, we have this sagging floor visible on the east face of tower 2. Now in order for what we see in the picture below, to in fact be sagging floors, the floor sections had to disconnect themselves from the perimeter columns. Now, those same detached, sagging floor sections have to pull the perimeter columns into the building in order to begin the collapse. This photo is supposed to be evidence that the east face perimeter columns bowed inward: So I guess the floors disconnected themselves from the perimeter so they could sag and then grabbed onto the perimeter so they could bow the columns inward and take out the building. The only logical explanation was that floor trusses are alive and intelligent, and maybe even magical entities.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
See #13
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
They don't want to believe that a gubmint that seizes half their income would do such a satanically dastardly thing, plus they don't want to be bothered... They'd rather have someone else do their thinking for them...
They don't want to believe that a gubmint that seizes half their income would do such a satanically dastardly thing, That would be scarier than those scary mooselums, too hard for them to process the possibility.. plus they don't want to be bothered... Sadly, that too.
yep. that's it. you're brilliant, Critter.
Oh, mercy! BeAChooser is not going to like you for this...! ;) (Brilliant, Critter..!)
I would hammer his ass but I'm busy combing five year old NewsMax articles for evidence refuting the Senate Intelligence report on the Saddam / Al Qaeda connection. Can't let that one go unspun or the whole world falls apart.
What, you never read the story about the Building Truss that saved a thousand Unicorns and Faeries from the evil Troll King? Jesus... Am I the only one who has read that book?
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#2. To: FormerLurker (#1)
#3. To: FormerLurker (#1)
#4. To: Burkeman1 (#2)
The massive steel beams all got "rubbery" and then the building collapsed into itself. Happens all the time.
#5. To: Burkeman1 (#2)
The massive steel beams all got "rubbery" and then the building collapsed into itself. Happens all the time.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#6. To: FormerLurker (#1)
#7. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#4)
I can't cook a steak in the broiler without the whole range collapsing...!
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#8. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#4)
The massive steel beams all got "rubbery" and then the building collapsed into itself. Happens all the time.
#9. To: christine (#6)
the Windsor building in Madrid burned for 24+ hours and didn't collapse. a collapse from fire never happened before, since, or on 911.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#10. To: Critter (#3)
http://www.archive.org /details/911_fdny_dispatches
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#11. To: FormerLurker (#9)
Are people really that dumb?
#12. To: christine (#11)
hmmmmm...who should we ask? ;)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#13. To: Burkeman1 (#2)
No, actually it was magical, intelligent floor trusses that did the dirty deed.
#14. To: Christine, FormerLurker (#13)
#15. To: FormerLurker (#9)
With total time from impact to collapse at 56 minutes for WTC 2 and 102 minutes for WTC 1, seems to me most people should have realized the story is a crock long ago. Are people really that dumb?
#16. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#15)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#17. To: Critter (#13)
So I guess the floors disconnected themselves from the perimeter so they could sag and then grabbed onto the perimeter so they could bow the columns inward and take out the building. The only logical explanation was that floor trusses are alive and intelligent, and maybe even magical entities.
#18. To: Critter (#13)
#19. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#18)
Oh, mercy! BeAChooser is not going to like you for this.
#20. To: Critter (#13)
The only logical explanation was that floor trusses are alive and intelligent, and maybe even magical entities.
 | What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#21. To: Critter, Christine, honway, all (#13)
Here's a little lession in perspective. When you draw something with the use of perspective, anything that faces you like windows in a building, will usually always be parallel to the ground, or the foreground. So, with this photo, all the floors should be pretty parallel to the ground. To see if there is any sagging in the floor, all you have to do, is print the photo out with the highest resolution, and then take a ruler to see if the floors are parallel to one another. It's very simple, and you can see that there is no sagging between the floors what so ever. My guess is that the inertia from the plane, and the parts of it that hit the structure caused the fascia to buckle, but the floors are intact and are not buckled at all.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#22. To: BAC (#19)
Be sure to ping It is a Republic when you find them.
I would hammer his ass but I'm busy combing five year old NewsMax articles for evidence refuting the Senate Intelligence report on the Saddam / Al Qaeda connection. Can't let that one go unspun or the whole world falls apart.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#23. To: Critter (#13)
I see you've been spending time arguing with kbb on El Pee. I notice the guy came on to LP to address nothing but 9/11 issues and nothing else. Take a look at his sentence structure and grammar. English is not this guy's first language. I wonder where he posts from.
#24. To: TommyTheMadArtist, Critter (#21)
By golly, you're right! I think that white line the red arrows are pointing to in Figure 9-16 in Critter's Post #13 is actually a banner from an office party...! :P (At least, that's what BeAChooser thinks.... ;))
It's very simple, and you can see that there is no sagging between the floors what so ever.
#25. To: SmokinOPs (#23)
I noticed his "accent" too, so I asked him if he was russian or some other eastern european. he never answered. hehehe
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
#26. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, TommyTheMadArtist (#24)
The red arrows are supposedly pointing to the sagging floor sections. The NIST report contains many pictures throughout that claim to show sagging floors. However, they are varying thicknesses and resemble conduits and ducts more than floors.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
#27. To: Critter, SmokinOPs (#25)
There have been so many immigrants into Israel from Russia in the past 15 years, that Russian has become a kind of "third language" there (the second of course being English), and broadcasts and films are not infrequently subtitled in Russian.
I noticed his "accent" too, so I asked him if he was russian or some other eastern european. he never answered. hehehe
#28. To: Critter (#26)
I was joking about the party banner. :) But I tend to agree that whatever that white line is in Figure 9-16, it doesn't look like a "sagging floor." Were there any reports of floors sagging or buckling by anyone inside the Towers before the collapse---firemen, for instance? I can't recall any.
The red arrows are supposedly pointing to the sagging floor sections. The NIST report contains many pictures throughout that claim to show sagging floors. However, they are varying thicknesses and resemble conduits and ducts more than floors.
#29. To: Critter (#25)
I guess I'm not one to talk about grammar. I ended a sentence with a preposition in my post to you.
#30. To: Critter (#13)
I don't see where the columns are bowing. I see the exterior panels are distorted from the heat, but the columns can't be seen.
Figure 6-21. WTC 2 exterior columns bowing inward across the east face
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#31. To: Critter (#13)
As far as the floor sagging (where I can only see the 82nd floor sagging on the left side of the image), its weight would be resting on the floor below, in this case the 81st floor, and if the floor had detached as you say, it would not be exerting any sort of extrordinary force on the columns.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#32. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#4)
LOL! Great post, I'm gonna use that example from now on when talking to people about 911.
#33. To: Critter (#13)
In the NIST reports, while they state this, they have no proof of "sagging" floors, and "blown" off fireproofing. NIST claims at first the inward bowing accompanied the collapse, not started it. Not one of the live scale floor models that NIST tested, failed, even if there was no fireproofing. NIST fails to explain how "sagging" floors would be able to pull the east side outer columns in, when in their paper only 15% of the support girder had damage, and the WTC could withstand almost up to 30%. Just one look at the floor plan and the incredible web of trusses that crisscrossed each floor, and one knows the "sagging floor fire theory" is dead.
Mark
If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
#34. To: Kamala, FormerLurker (#33)
PROOF "THEY KNOW" - HERE'S THE ALERT TO THE AIRLINES
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#35. To: Kamala (#33)
Oh I know. lol I just love picking on NIST... and BeALooser at LP. hehehe
Just one look at the floor plan and the incredible web of trusses that crisscrossed each floor, and one knows the "sagging floor fire theory" is dead.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
#36. To: Burkeman1 (#2)
Has anyone performed a controlled experiment, as in subjecting similar beams to about 1200 degrees, and testing the beams load carrying capacity? I would do it myself, but I'm fresh out of I-beams.
The massive steel beams all got "rubbery" and then the building collapsed into itself. Happens all the time.
To every individual in nature is given an individual property by nature not to be invaded or usurped by any. ["An arrow against all tyrants," Richard Overton, 12 October 1646]
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