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Title: Meet the Bolsheviks!
Source: Original Dissent
URL Source: http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6402
Published: Apr 04, 2003
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2006-09-12 13:15:15 by bluegrass
Ping List: *New History*
Keywords: None
Views: 7054
Comments: 224

Meet the Jewish people who murdered over 20 million innocents in Russia from 1917-onward, long before Hitler came to power. Yes, Virginia, Hitler was largely responding to that murder event with his own Holocaust, the Jewish community]. And yes, Virginia, we know that your history teacher never mentioned the Bolshevik holocaust -- neither did ours.

The few non-Jewish officials in the list below are specifically noted as being not Jewish. [Note on name spellings: Russian names are spelled differently depending upon the source, e.g., Yoffe is also spelled Ioffe and sometimes Joffe; Grigory is sometimes Grigori or even Grigorii].

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1. Vladimir I. Lenin (1870-1924): first Premier of the USSR; Marxist theoretician; a lawyer; founder of the Bolsheviks (1903); supreme dictator of early Bolshevik regime; founder of the Comintern; author of the Marxist handbook "State and Revolution"; Lenin was one-quarter Jewish, and was married to a Jewess.

2. Joseph Stalin (1879-1953): an early Bolshevik; supreme dictator of Soviet Union from 1927-1953. After V. Lenin's death, and prior to 1927, the Bolshevik regime was run by a triumvirate composed of Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Stalin. Stalin was the editor of the Bolshevik newspaper, Pravda ("Truth"). Stalin, like Lenin, was married to a Jewess. Stalin was not a vigorous supporter of forcing Communism upon other countries -- unlike Trotsky -- a feature which likely prevented a Soviet assault upon various Western countries. [Not Jewish]

3. Leon Trotsky (aka Bronstein) (1879-1940): Trotsky was a Menshevik; was Commissar of Foreign Affairs; supreme commander of the Soviet Red Army; member of Politburo; he rebelled against Stalin and his supporters and was murdered by Stalin for that reason. Trotsky strongly advocated the idea of global -- not simply local -- Marxist revolution.

4. Lazar M. Kaganovich (1893-1991): a prime director of mass-murder for Stalin; held a series of vocations, including commissar of transport, heavy industry and the fuel industry; a Politburo member; he was Stalin's brother-in-law and also his chief advisor; many execution orders bore Kaganovich's signature [1], evidence that he had the power to order the deaths of civilians [2]. During the 1930s, he was in charge of the deportations of "enemies of the state" to Siberia; was nicknamed the "Wolf of the Kremlin" because of his penchant for violence. He was considered by many to be the most powerful and important man under Stalin. Died of old age in Moscow.

5. Grigory Zinoviev (aka Apfelbaum; aka Radomyslsky) (1883-1936): great pal of Lenin; member of the Central Committee; chairman of the Comintern; member of Politburo; executive of secret police; first president of the Third International; A. Lunacharsky called him "one of the principal counsellors of our Central Committee and (he) belongs unquestionably to the four or five men who constitute the political brain of the Party."

6. Grigori Y. Sokolnikov (1888-1939): a Bolshevik; friend of Trotsky; Commissar of Finance; a diplomat; member of the "Left Opposition"; Soviet ambassador to England; creator of the "chervonetz," the first stable Soviet currency; was part of "Russian" delegation that signed the Brest-Litovsk treaty in 1918; member of the Central Committee and Politburo.

7. Moisei Uritsky (1873-1918): Uritsky was a Menshevik; chief of the Petrograd Cheka, in which capacity he ordered many people who opposed Communism to be executed as "counter-revolutionaries"; Commissar for Internal Affairs in the Northern Region; the commissar of the Constituent Assembly; member of the Central Committee; a member of the "Revolutionary Military Center."

8. Felix Dzherzhinsky (1877-1926): a Pole; a high-strung fanatic; founder/director of the Cheka (All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage), which was later renamed the State Political Directorate (GPU), which later became the OGPU and then the NKVD (Peoples Commissariat for Internal Affairs); member, Central Committee; Commissar of Transport. [Not Jewish, but philosemitic].

9. Maxim Litvinov (aka Wallakh) (1876-1951): Soviet foreign minister/diplomat/ambassador; in 1933, he persuaded the United States to recognize the Communist Soviet government as "legit" -- thanks, in part, to America's president F. D. Roosevelt being part-Jewish; first chairman, State Committee on the Anthem (official musical anthems).

10. Lavrenti Beria (1899-1953): member of the Cheka; later became head of the Peoples Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD) in Georgia, then later the NKVD proper. Beria had large numbers of prisoners executed [3]; was involved in the Atomic Bomb project in the USSR; [Rumored by some to be a crypto-Jew; other sources insist he was not Jewish, but philosemitic].

11. Yakov (Jacob) Sverdlov (aka Solomon) (1885-1919): member, "Revolutionary Military Center"; member, Central Committee; close buddy of Lenin; aided Lenin with Lenin's political theories; Sverdlov ordered the massacre of the Czar's family in 1918. Sverdlov succeeded Kamenev and became the second Jewish president of the so-called "Soviet Republic."

12. Sergei M. Kirov (1886-1934); early Bolshevik; member of the Politburo; Secretary of the Central Committee; Communist Party boss in Leningrad. Stalin used Kirov’s murder in 1934 to justify the party purges and treason trials of the late 1930s. [Apparently not Jewish].

13. Nikolai V. Krylenko (1885-1938): an early Bolshevik; member of editorial board of Pravda; member of the executive committee of the Petrograd Soviet; famous chess player; member of the Communist Party Central Committee; a military commissar; as President of the Supreme Tribunal he prosecuted most political trials in the 1920s; in 1931, Stalin appointed Krylenko Commissar of Justice; he was involved in the convictions of many Communist Party members during the Great Purges. [Not Jewish]

14. Karl Radek (aka Sobelsohn) (1885-1939); early revolutionary; old confidante of Lenin; member of the Central Committee; an "international" Communist activist; a key player in the creation of the Comintern; a writer for the Soviet government newspaper Izvestia; participated in the Brest-Litovsk peace negotiations with Germany; he also was active in Germany, working with Jewish-German Communist Rosa Luxemburg.

15. Viacheslav I. Molotov (1890-1986): early Bolshevik; helped found Pravda newspaper; head of the Ukrainian Communist Party; member of the Politburo; Commissar for Foreign Affairs; headed a Politburo commission to "eliminate the kulaks as a class." [Apparently not Jewish but philosemitic; his wife was Jewish, named Zhemchuzina].

16. Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko (1884-1939): a former Menshevik; Chief of Political Administration of the Red Army; an unofficial ambassador to Czechoslovakia and Poland; Commissar for Military Affairs in Petrograd; Commissar of War; led the Red Army invasion of the Ukraine; led the attack on the Winter Palace; editor of the Menshevik "Nashe Slovo" newspaper.

17. Yakov (Jacob) Yurovsky (y/b/d unknown): head of Ekaterinburg Cheka; "Commissar of Justice" for Ural Regional Soviet; the leader of the Bolshevik squad that carried out the murders of Czar Nicholas II and his family in 1918. The murder of mild-mannered Nicholas was carried out almost completely by Jews, including Goloshchekin, Syromolotov, Safarov, Voikov, in addition to Yurovsky.

18. Grigory Sergo Ordzhonikidze (1886-1937); member of the Politburo; Commissar for Heavy Industry; helped solidify Bolshevik power in Armenia and Georgia; Chairman of the Caucasus Central Committee of the Communist Party; First Secretary of the Transcaucasian Communist Party Committee; Chairman of the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party; became Stalin's top economic official. [Apparently not Jewish].

19. Genrikh (Henry) Yagoda (1891-1938); a Polish Jew; former Cheka member; an officer in SMERSH, the Ninth Division of the OGPU, its liquidation arm; People's Commissar of Internal Affairs; chief of the NKVD; also in charge of gulag forced-labor camps. Developing fast-acting poisons was a Yagoda hobby; he created a laboratory for that purpose.

20. Lev Kamenev (aka Rosenfeld) (1883-1936); member of the Central Committee; Chairman of the Moscow Soviet; member of Politburo; author of Marxist handbook "The Dictatorship of the Proletariat," 1920; was elected first President of new Bolshevik government, aka "Soviet Republic" [Lenin was Premier]; was married to Trotsky's sister.

21. Anatoly V. Lunacharsky (1875-1933); an early Marxist; Commissar for Education and Enlightenment; League of Nations ambassador; key player in persuading Russian workers to support the Bolshevik Revolution; was an author - wrote the "Revolutionary Silhouettes" of top Bolshevik pals; [Apparently not Jewish].

22. Fedor (Theodore) Dan (1871-1947): was a Menshevik; was a member of the editorial board of the Menshevik journal "Iskra"; was author of the book "The Origins of Bolshevism" (1943), where he claimed that Bolshevism had been chosen by history to be "the carrier of socialism"; but he was actually an opponent of most Bolshevik ideas; he was sent into exile in 1921 after being arrested; he was married to Menshevik leader Julius Martov's sister.

23. Nikolai Bukharin (1888-1938): Lenin's chief Marxist theorist; general secretary/chairman of the Comintern; member of the Politburo; member, Central Committee; he was editor of Pravda and also Izvestia, a political newspaper; led, with Rykov, the "Right Opposition" to defend the NEP [New Economic Policy]; [Apparently not Jewish].

24. Nikolai Yezhov (1895-1939): early Bolshevik; served in various capacities in the Cheka, GPU, and OGPU; was military commissar in various Red Army units; was G. Yagoda's deputy; People's Commissar of Internal Affairs; head of NKVD; was deputy People's Commissar of Agriculture for the USSR.

25. Mikhail I. Kalinin (1875-1946); early Bolshevik; cofounder of the newspaper Pravda; nominal, "puppet" president of Soviet Union until 1946; replaced Sverdlov as Chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee of the Communist Party; Chairman of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR.

26. Isaac Steinberg (y/b/d unknown); Commissar of Justice. Later brought Jewish-flavored radicalism to Australia.

27. Alexei Rykov (1881-1938); Premier of Soviet Union until 1930; member of Lenin's Politburo; Commissar of the Interior; Chairman of the Supreme Council of National Economy; Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars; led the "Right Opposition" with Bukharin to defend the NEP [New Economic Policy].

28. Matvei D. Berman (y/b/d unknown): chief of gulag system and Deputy Commissar of the NKVD; brother of Boris.

29. Naftaly Frenkel (y/b/d unknown): a director of the gulag prison camp system; Turkish-born; was works chief/chief overseer of the one-hundred-and-forty-mile-long Belomor (Baltic-White Sea) canal project in Russia, a canal linking the White Sea and the Baltic, built from 1931–34; it was created entirely with slave labor; 60,000 workers died building the canal, the project having a mortality rate of roughly 10%.

30. Adolph Yoffe (aka Ioffe) (1883-1927): Commissar of Foreign Affairs; ex-Menshevik; close friend of Trotsky's; helped publish the Pravda newspaper; delegate at the Brest-Litovsk peace negotiations; member of the State General Planning Commission; was later Soviet ambassador to China, Japan and Austria.

31. Lev Inzhir (y/b/d/ unknown): chief accountant for the gulag prison system.

32. Boris Berman ( -1938): served as the Byelorussian NKVD's Commissar until 1938; brother of Matvei.

33. K. V. Pauker (y/b/d unknown): head of the Operations Department of the NKVD.

34. Aleksandr Orlov (aka L. Feldbin) (1898-1970): member of the Cheka; advisor to Spanish Communists in Spain; commander, Soviet Red Army; later worked at the Law School of the University of Michigan in America (!).

35. Ilya Ehrenburg (1891-1967): Soviet propaganda minister during WWII; delegate for Moscow in the Supreme Soviet; Communist writer; organizing member of JAC [Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee]; worked for Izvestia newspaper; performed research regarding Spain for the NKVD; author of book "The Ninth Wave," and winner of two Stalin Prizes.


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Mass Grave of Massacred Poles Found in Ukraine: "Unofficial estimates put the number of bodies in the grave at 200,000 to 300,000. "
That would be the work of Kaganovich. This story has been hidden from three generations of Americans. All the while, those three generations have been endlessly harangued with Yiddish fairy tales about a fictional "Holocaust", complete with bone-crushing machines and huge underground gas chambers.

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#95. To: Diana, SmokinOPs, robin (#92)

What happened to "we're all the same", "everyone is equal", "there are no inherent differences in the races and to say so is racist"??

All the goyim are the same. It's racist to say otherwise. It's also racist to hold Jewish groups to account for their misdeeds or to even think that they'd engage in them.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   17:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: bluegrass (#95)

I always thought that anyone intimating or insinuating that Jews work together are just anti-semites? ; )

I see 4um is beginning to load up with Jew revisionists, apologists and propaganda artists.

Anti-goyism is on the march. Perhaps we need a GDL or even a anti-goyism hanging law. Thats the ticket. We want to be as "tolerant" as our Jewish friends.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   17:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: SmokinOPs, BTP Holdings (#59)

To: BTP Holdings

Smarter, or more devious and cunning? One allows for the others.

Honesty, empathy and compassion are personality traits that people have or don't have in varying degrees.

If anything less intelligent people tend to be a bit more dishonest and tribal in their behavior, for instance third-world countries are rampant with corruption and nepotism.

Personally I regard deviousness and cunning as traits of those who are not highly evolved spiritually.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   17:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: bluegrass, SmokinOPs, robin (#88)

Where on earth do you suppose this business of continual revolution originated but from Trotsky himself?

The neocons simply transformed it into spreading democracy. Same thing but with a flavor the brainwashed (for the last century or more) sheeple have come to accept.

And the communitarian George W. Bush has embraced it whole hog. ROTFLOL!

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   17:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Cynicom (#96)

I see 4um is beginning to load up with Jew revisionists, apologists and propaganda artists.

Since I assume you are aiming that at me, I apologize.

Sorry to break up your little anti-Semitic playground.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-12   17:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: bluegrass (#93)

I always thought that anyone intimating or insinuating that Jews work together are just anti-semites?

Nope, but you are an anti-semite. Actually you mostly come off as someone afflicted with a pathetic jealousy. You have to cococt these fantastic theories about how .01% of the world is involved in nefarious activities to somehow deprive your tribe of its due glory.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   17:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: bluegrass (#87)

Uncle Joe did put the 'anti-semitism is the death penalty' plum in the pie so the banking Choze would always love him.

Well, yeah---he did play to the audience. And he knew of not simply the power and influence emigrant Russian Jewish communities had achieved in the West, but also of the pressure that could be put on individuals in those communities through his control over relatives they had left behind in the Soviet "republics." A "carrot-and-stick" approach, if you will.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-12   17:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Diana (#92)

What happened to "we're all the same", "everyone is equal", "there are no inherent differences in the races and to say so is racist"??

Never existed. You must have constructed it yourself. Good luck with that strawman.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   17:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: bluedogtxn (#99)

Since I assume you are aiming that at me, I apologize.

Never assume anything.

It was "aimed" and sent to Bluegrass, if it offends you, speaking the truth should never offend anyone.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   17:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: bluedogtxn (#86)

There were many under and unreported genocides in the last century and there is an ongoing one in Darfur that seemingly merits little angst among us.

The other day I was listening to our only FM station here, and there was a talk- show guy Steve Gill who was going on and on about how the terrorists want to kill us. He then said something about WWII, how we don't want that kind of thing to happen again, and he described it as the war "where we had to get rid of Hitler because he was trying to kill all the Jews, oh, and Japan too".

I couldn't believe it. I used to suspect that the majority of high school students probably think WWII was all about Hitler, but now probably the majority of adults have been conditioned to think the same. Soon they'll need to change the name from WWII to the War on Hitler because WWII implies there was more to it than fighting Hitler.

Those who now rule us place great importance on changing history, or so it seems.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   17:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: SmokinOPs, Diana (#102)

Never existed. You must have constructed it yourself. Good luck with that strawman.

You left out the part about diversity and multiculturalism, which are key parts of the cultural communism which has infiltrated our society with the help of the politically correct crowd.

Maybe it never existed in your Zionist inspired bubble of a world since according to the Talmud all of the goyim are inferior and the Jew is perfect.

Here is something by Reuven Schossen, a Jew who has converted to Christianity, that will burst that little bubble of yours.

Do Zionist Christians Know that Jesus'
Name Was Changed in Israel?

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   17:43:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: BTP Holdings (#105)

Maybe it never existed in your Zionist inspired bubble of a world since according to the Talmud all of the goyim are inferior and the Jew is perfect.

Yeah that's it. And I personally don't care about your sky-fairy and Jesus's name.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   17:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: SmokinOPs (#102)

Never existed. You must have constructed it yourself.

huh

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   17:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: BTP Holdings (#98)

Where on earth do you suppose this business of continual revolution originated but from Trotsky himself?

Yes, and since Trotsky was a Jew, it must be a Jews to blame for DC's Empire. See how that works. Because it certainly couldn't be in the interest of DC parasites in the Executive and Legislative branches to divy out favors in the Empire. They must be under Jewish mind control working against their own interests.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   17:54:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Diana (#107)

huh

Huh, yeah huh. You confuse what you hear with what the practice is in the real world.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   17:55:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Diana (#97)

If anything less intelligent people tend to be a bit more dishonest and tribal in their behavior, for instance third-world countries are rampant with corruption and nepotism.

Racism, bigoty, elitism, all in one grand sentence. How really snobbish. Geeezzz

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   18:15:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: SmokinOPs (#109)

You confuse what you hear with what the practice is in the real world.

Care to offer an example of this?

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   18:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: Cynicom (#110)

Racism, bigoty, elitism, all in one grand sentence. How really snobbish. Geeezzz

Truthful nonetheless. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   18:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: SmokinOPs (#106)

And I personally don't care about your sky-fairy and Jesus's name.

Well, that settles it then. Whatever it is you are smoking it sure has got your mind in a twist, just like your panties. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   18:20:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: BTP Holdings (#112)

Truthful nonetheless. ;0)

Jack Abramoff shared that racist opinion, Indians were monkeys and apes, he stole millions and guess who is going to rot in jail??????

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   18:21:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Cynicom (#96)

Ted Lang suggested pro-Semite hate laws.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=34606&Disp

We need "hate crimes" legislation, but not laws directed at "anti-Semites." We need laws directed squarely at "pro-Semites," meaning the traitors who have bought our government out from under US and replaced it with the most technically advanced and therefore the greatest danger to human freedom in all the history of mankind. I feel something is going to happen, and I feel it will happen soon. If we could only hear a Charlie Sheen on national TV. Or perhaps a Congressman Ron Paul speaking nationally instead of to himself in front of the wasteoid House of "Representatives," we might just have another chance. There are a lot of people out there in possession of the naked truth; perhaps one of them will come forward with their story.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-12   18:23:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: SmokinOPs (#108)

Yes, and since Trotsky was a Jew, it must be a Jews to blame for DC's Empire. See how that works. Because it certainly couldn't be in the interest of DC parasites in the Executive and Legislative branches to divy out favors in the Empire. They must be under Jewish mind control working against their own interests.

You really haven't got a clue. The money power controls all of it. Without them, and the tribute the rest of the fascist scum have to fork over regularly, where would we be?

Oh, let's see, no perpetual war, no perpetual debt, a little more prosperity to go around and maybe even good relations with the rest of the world.

And we know who controls the banks. Geez, those dang Jews keep coming up. What's a fella to do? ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   18:26:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Cynicom, Diana (#114) (Edited)

Jack Abramoff shared that racist opinion, Indians were monkeys and apes, he stole millions and guess who is going to rot in jail??????

Diana is no Jack Abramoff, and neither am I. Guess again.

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   18:29:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: SmokinOPs (#108)

Because it certainly couldn't be in the interest of DC parasites in the Executive and Legislative branches to divy out favors in the Empire.

It certainly is in the interest of said DC parasites.

They must be under Jewish mind control working against their own interests.

More of a happy alignment of interests, marching forward into the future hand-in-hand. At least for now.

La Raza puts it more succinctly -- a "white and Jewish" power structure.


Es ist ein Ros entsprungen
Aus einer Wurzel zart.
Wie uns die Alten sungen,
Von Jesse kam die Art
Und hat ein Blümlein bracht,
Mitten im kalten Winter,
Wohl zu der halben Nacht.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-12   18:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: SmokinOPs, bluegrass (#100)

You have to cococt these fantastic theories about how .01% of the world is involved in nefarious activities to somehow deprive your tribe of its due glory.

See that's the thing, most of us don't see ourselves as belonging to a "tribe".

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   18:39:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: BTP Holdings (#111)

Care to offer an example of this?

C.S. Lewis has something to say about that.


Es ist ein Ros entsprungen
Aus einer Wurzel zart.
Wie uns die Alten sungen,
Von Jesse kam die Art
Und hat ein Blümlein bracht,
Mitten im kalten Winter,
Wohl zu der halben Nacht.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-12   18:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: SmokinOPs (#109)

Huh, yeah huh. You confuse what you hear with what the practice is in the real world.

You mean I confuse the information/propaganda that is attempted to be crammed down out throats, or that I don't realize that this is merely for the consumption of the "stupid, gullible and naive"?

Have you ever considered the possiblity that people perceive reality in different ways, and what you may consider gullible and naive, is in actuality honesty and compassion, characteristics you may loathe and have no "respect" for because you don't understand it? I can admit that I have a hard time understanding the cut- throat mentality, the "virtues" of deception and trickery.

I believe everyone is on a different path, some behind others in terms of real compassion for humanity.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   18:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Tauzero (#81)

But of course -- web sites labeled as "hate" sites.

perspicacious !

christine  posted on  2006-09-12   18:53:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: BTP Holdings (#117)

. Guess again.

Not interested.

Birds of a feather share the same hatred and bigotry.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   18:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Cynicom (#123)

Birds of a feather share the same hatred and bigotry.

Now try to insult me. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   19:00:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: BTP Holdings (#124)

Now try to insult me. ;0)

Not interested in your type of behavior, leave that to you.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   19:01:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Cynicom (#110)

Racism, bigoty, elitism, all in one grand sentence. How really snobbish. Geeezzz

Okey, "We are all the same", "diversity is out strength" "all humans are exact replicas of each other".

There. Like that better?

If anything less intelligent people tend to be a bit more dishonest and tribal in their behavior, for instance third-world countries are rampant with corruption and nepotism.

However, what I said above is the truth. This is not a perfect world and no people are perfect. That is the reality.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   19:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Tauzero (#118)

La Raza puts it more succinctly -- a "white and Jewish" power structure.

Who funds La Raza and Mecha? Who benefits in the end?

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-12   19:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: BTP Holdings (#116)

The money power controls all of it.

And we know who controls the banks. Geez, those dang Jews keep coming up.

Oooooooooh, cue scary music. So does the Jewish guy who owns the hotdog stand in Queens get his cut. Is there a per diem that comes with his membership card. I guess the fact that all the big investment banks are now publicly traded entities is just an inconvenience to the conspiracy. So have you checked your investment portfolio to make sure you're divested from these banks. Certainly wouldn't want you to lose sleep tonight over the blood money.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   19:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Diana (#126)

That is the reality.

Your "reality" is skewed by your own bias.

We are all alike in that envoirment. An unbiased I have never met.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   19:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Diana (#119) (Edited)

See that's the thing, most of us don't see ourselves as belonging to a "tribe".

Who's most? What do you think all the blood dancing and cheering of the American Imperial Legions around the world is? Tribalism.

They sell tribal magnets at every Muslim owned Quickee Mart in the US. They say " I support the troops".

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   19:10:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: SmokinOPs (#130)

They sell tribal magnets at every Muslim owned Quickee Mart in the US. They say " I suppor the troops".

I suppor the troops is a tribal magnet?

ROFLMAO~!

Dance puppet dance.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-12   19:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: Cynicom (#110)

Again this is not an equal or just world. No one can deny that.

It's not "racist" to say some people are smarter than others, better looking, more talented, more comical, have bad tempers, tend to have or not have a highly- developed sense of honesty, etc. I happen to believe that all humans are equally loved and equally important in the eyes of God, even though there are a varity of faults in everyone.

To pretend this is not so is sticking your head in the sand. Each one of us has our own faults and weaknesses we need to work on.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   19:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: SmokinOPs, bluedogtxn, Cynicom (#100)

but you are an anti-semite.

If being opposed to Jewish nutjobs having political power in American is what an anti-semite is, then I'm an unabashed anti-semite. Oddly, I'm also opposed to any nutjobs that identify with any religion having political power in America.

This is America. We can speak of whom and what we wish.

You have to cococt these fantastic theories about how...the world is involved in nefarious activities to somehow deprive your tribe of its due glory.

You're projecting. Typical.

To believe the BS, Jews NEVER engage in anything nefarious. It's only the world that conspires against Jews.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   19:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: jessejane (#127)

Who funds La Raza and Mecha?

Rothschild's of Europe, of course ! ... It's all their money ain't it ?

:P:P:P:P:P

"eventus stultorum magister"

Fools must be taught by experience

noone222  posted on  2006-09-12   19:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Cynicom, SmokinOPs, BTP Holdings (#123)

Birds of a feather share the same hatred and bigotry.

It appears to me that you are so obsessed with the topic of "hatred and bigotry" that you can no longer think in a rational way when anything related to that topic is brought up. You make assumptions that particular people are racists, when you know nothing about them or their experiences or what they truly feel. How do you know for instance that I am not native American?? You don't.

Even SmokinOPs sees through the BS in that regard and recognises that this is not how the world operates.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   19:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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