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Title: Meet the Bolsheviks!
Source: Original Dissent
URL Source: http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6402
Published: Apr 04, 2003
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2006-09-12 13:15:15 by bluegrass
Ping List: *New History*
Keywords: None
Views: 6790
Comments: 224

Meet the Jewish people who murdered over 20 million innocents in Russia from 1917-onward, long before Hitler came to power. Yes, Virginia, Hitler was largely responding to that murder event with his own Holocaust, the Jewish community]. And yes, Virginia, we know that your history teacher never mentioned the Bolshevik holocaust -- neither did ours.

The few non-Jewish officials in the list below are specifically noted as being not Jewish. [Note on name spellings: Russian names are spelled differently depending upon the source, e.g., Yoffe is also spelled Ioffe and sometimes Joffe; Grigory is sometimes Grigori or even Grigorii].

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1. Vladimir I. Lenin (1870-1924): first Premier of the USSR; Marxist theoretician; a lawyer; founder of the Bolsheviks (1903); supreme dictator of early Bolshevik regime; founder of the Comintern; author of the Marxist handbook "State and Revolution"; Lenin was one-quarter Jewish, and was married to a Jewess.

2. Joseph Stalin (1879-1953): an early Bolshevik; supreme dictator of Soviet Union from 1927-1953. After V. Lenin's death, and prior to 1927, the Bolshevik regime was run by a triumvirate composed of Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Stalin. Stalin was the editor of the Bolshevik newspaper, Pravda ("Truth"). Stalin, like Lenin, was married to a Jewess. Stalin was not a vigorous supporter of forcing Communism upon other countries -- unlike Trotsky -- a feature which likely prevented a Soviet assault upon various Western countries. [Not Jewish]

3. Leon Trotsky (aka Bronstein) (1879-1940): Trotsky was a Menshevik; was Commissar of Foreign Affairs; supreme commander of the Soviet Red Army; member of Politburo; he rebelled against Stalin and his supporters and was murdered by Stalin for that reason. Trotsky strongly advocated the idea of global -- not simply local -- Marxist revolution.

4. Lazar M. Kaganovich (1893-1991): a prime director of mass-murder for Stalin; held a series of vocations, including commissar of transport, heavy industry and the fuel industry; a Politburo member; he was Stalin's brother-in-law and also his chief advisor; many execution orders bore Kaganovich's signature [1], evidence that he had the power to order the deaths of civilians [2]. During the 1930s, he was in charge of the deportations of "enemies of the state" to Siberia; was nicknamed the "Wolf of the Kremlin" because of his penchant for violence. He was considered by many to be the most powerful and important man under Stalin. Died of old age in Moscow.

5. Grigory Zinoviev (aka Apfelbaum; aka Radomyslsky) (1883-1936): great pal of Lenin; member of the Central Committee; chairman of the Comintern; member of Politburo; executive of secret police; first president of the Third International; A. Lunacharsky called him "one of the principal counsellors of our Central Committee and (he) belongs unquestionably to the four or five men who constitute the political brain of the Party."

6. Grigori Y. Sokolnikov (1888-1939): a Bolshevik; friend of Trotsky; Commissar of Finance; a diplomat; member of the "Left Opposition"; Soviet ambassador to England; creator of the "chervonetz," the first stable Soviet currency; was part of "Russian" delegation that signed the Brest-Litovsk treaty in 1918; member of the Central Committee and Politburo.

7. Moisei Uritsky (1873-1918): Uritsky was a Menshevik; chief of the Petrograd Cheka, in which capacity he ordered many people who opposed Communism to be executed as "counter-revolutionaries"; Commissar for Internal Affairs in the Northern Region; the commissar of the Constituent Assembly; member of the Central Committee; a member of the "Revolutionary Military Center."

8. Felix Dzherzhinsky (1877-1926): a Pole; a high-strung fanatic; founder/director of the Cheka (All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage), which was later renamed the State Political Directorate (GPU), which later became the OGPU and then the NKVD (Peoples Commissariat for Internal Affairs); member, Central Committee; Commissar of Transport. [Not Jewish, but philosemitic].

9. Maxim Litvinov (aka Wallakh) (1876-1951): Soviet foreign minister/diplomat/ambassador; in 1933, he persuaded the United States to recognize the Communist Soviet government as "legit" -- thanks, in part, to America's president F. D. Roosevelt being part-Jewish; first chairman, State Committee on the Anthem (official musical anthems).

10. Lavrenti Beria (1899-1953): member of the Cheka; later became head of the Peoples Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD) in Georgia, then later the NKVD proper. Beria had large numbers of prisoners executed [3]; was involved in the Atomic Bomb project in the USSR; [Rumored by some to be a crypto-Jew; other sources insist he was not Jewish, but philosemitic].

11. Yakov (Jacob) Sverdlov (aka Solomon) (1885-1919): member, "Revolutionary Military Center"; member, Central Committee; close buddy of Lenin; aided Lenin with Lenin's political theories; Sverdlov ordered the massacre of the Czar's family in 1918. Sverdlov succeeded Kamenev and became the second Jewish president of the so-called "Soviet Republic."

12. Sergei M. Kirov (1886-1934); early Bolshevik; member of the Politburo; Secretary of the Central Committee; Communist Party boss in Leningrad. Stalin used Kirov’s murder in 1934 to justify the party purges and treason trials of the late 1930s. [Apparently not Jewish].

13. Nikolai V. Krylenko (1885-1938): an early Bolshevik; member of editorial board of Pravda; member of the executive committee of the Petrograd Soviet; famous chess player; member of the Communist Party Central Committee; a military commissar; as President of the Supreme Tribunal he prosecuted most political trials in the 1920s; in 1931, Stalin appointed Krylenko Commissar of Justice; he was involved in the convictions of many Communist Party members during the Great Purges. [Not Jewish]

14. Karl Radek (aka Sobelsohn) (1885-1939); early revolutionary; old confidante of Lenin; member of the Central Committee; an "international" Communist activist; a key player in the creation of the Comintern; a writer for the Soviet government newspaper Izvestia; participated in the Brest-Litovsk peace negotiations with Germany; he also was active in Germany, working with Jewish-German Communist Rosa Luxemburg.

15. Viacheslav I. Molotov (1890-1986): early Bolshevik; helped found Pravda newspaper; head of the Ukrainian Communist Party; member of the Politburo; Commissar for Foreign Affairs; headed a Politburo commission to "eliminate the kulaks as a class." [Apparently not Jewish but philosemitic; his wife was Jewish, named Zhemchuzina].

16. Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko (1884-1939): a former Menshevik; Chief of Political Administration of the Red Army; an unofficial ambassador to Czechoslovakia and Poland; Commissar for Military Affairs in Petrograd; Commissar of War; led the Red Army invasion of the Ukraine; led the attack on the Winter Palace; editor of the Menshevik "Nashe Slovo" newspaper.

17. Yakov (Jacob) Yurovsky (y/b/d unknown): head of Ekaterinburg Cheka; "Commissar of Justice" for Ural Regional Soviet; the leader of the Bolshevik squad that carried out the murders of Czar Nicholas II and his family in 1918. The murder of mild-mannered Nicholas was carried out almost completely by Jews, including Goloshchekin, Syromolotov, Safarov, Voikov, in addition to Yurovsky.

18. Grigory Sergo Ordzhonikidze (1886-1937); member of the Politburo; Commissar for Heavy Industry; helped solidify Bolshevik power in Armenia and Georgia; Chairman of the Caucasus Central Committee of the Communist Party; First Secretary of the Transcaucasian Communist Party Committee; Chairman of the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party; became Stalin's top economic official. [Apparently not Jewish].

19. Genrikh (Henry) Yagoda (1891-1938); a Polish Jew; former Cheka member; an officer in SMERSH, the Ninth Division of the OGPU, its liquidation arm; People's Commissar of Internal Affairs; chief of the NKVD; also in charge of gulag forced-labor camps. Developing fast-acting poisons was a Yagoda hobby; he created a laboratory for that purpose.

20. Lev Kamenev (aka Rosenfeld) (1883-1936); member of the Central Committee; Chairman of the Moscow Soviet; member of Politburo; author of Marxist handbook "The Dictatorship of the Proletariat," 1920; was elected first President of new Bolshevik government, aka "Soviet Republic" [Lenin was Premier]; was married to Trotsky's sister.

21. Anatoly V. Lunacharsky (1875-1933); an early Marxist; Commissar for Education and Enlightenment; League of Nations ambassador; key player in persuading Russian workers to support the Bolshevik Revolution; was an author - wrote the "Revolutionary Silhouettes" of top Bolshevik pals; [Apparently not Jewish].

22. Fedor (Theodore) Dan (1871-1947): was a Menshevik; was a member of the editorial board of the Menshevik journal "Iskra"; was author of the book "The Origins of Bolshevism" (1943), where he claimed that Bolshevism had been chosen by history to be "the carrier of socialism"; but he was actually an opponent of most Bolshevik ideas; he was sent into exile in 1921 after being arrested; he was married to Menshevik leader Julius Martov's sister.

23. Nikolai Bukharin (1888-1938): Lenin's chief Marxist theorist; general secretary/chairman of the Comintern; member of the Politburo; member, Central Committee; he was editor of Pravda and also Izvestia, a political newspaper; led, with Rykov, the "Right Opposition" to defend the NEP [New Economic Policy]; [Apparently not Jewish].

24. Nikolai Yezhov (1895-1939): early Bolshevik; served in various capacities in the Cheka, GPU, and OGPU; was military commissar in various Red Army units; was G. Yagoda's deputy; People's Commissar of Internal Affairs; head of NKVD; was deputy People's Commissar of Agriculture for the USSR.

25. Mikhail I. Kalinin (1875-1946); early Bolshevik; cofounder of the newspaper Pravda; nominal, "puppet" president of Soviet Union until 1946; replaced Sverdlov as Chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee of the Communist Party; Chairman of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR.

26. Isaac Steinberg (y/b/d unknown); Commissar of Justice. Later brought Jewish-flavored radicalism to Australia.

27. Alexei Rykov (1881-1938); Premier of Soviet Union until 1930; member of Lenin's Politburo; Commissar of the Interior; Chairman of the Supreme Council of National Economy; Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars; led the "Right Opposition" with Bukharin to defend the NEP [New Economic Policy].

28. Matvei D. Berman (y/b/d unknown): chief of gulag system and Deputy Commissar of the NKVD; brother of Boris.

29. Naftaly Frenkel (y/b/d unknown): a director of the gulag prison camp system; Turkish-born; was works chief/chief overseer of the one-hundred-and-forty-mile-long Belomor (Baltic-White Sea) canal project in Russia, a canal linking the White Sea and the Baltic, built from 1931–34; it was created entirely with slave labor; 60,000 workers died building the canal, the project having a mortality rate of roughly 10%.

30. Adolph Yoffe (aka Ioffe) (1883-1927): Commissar of Foreign Affairs; ex-Menshevik; close friend of Trotsky's; helped publish the Pravda newspaper; delegate at the Brest-Litovsk peace negotiations; member of the State General Planning Commission; was later Soviet ambassador to China, Japan and Austria.

31. Lev Inzhir (y/b/d/ unknown): chief accountant for the gulag prison system.

32. Boris Berman ( -1938): served as the Byelorussian NKVD's Commissar until 1938; brother of Matvei.

33. K. V. Pauker (y/b/d unknown): head of the Operations Department of the NKVD.

34. Aleksandr Orlov (aka L. Feldbin) (1898-1970): member of the Cheka; advisor to Spanish Communists in Spain; commander, Soviet Red Army; later worked at the Law School of the University of Michigan in America (!).

35. Ilya Ehrenburg (1891-1967): Soviet propaganda minister during WWII; delegate for Moscow in the Supreme Soviet; Communist writer; organizing member of JAC [Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee]; worked for Izvestia newspaper; performed research regarding Spain for the NKVD; author of book "The Ninth Wave," and winner of two Stalin Prizes.


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Mass Grave of Massacred Poles Found in Ukraine: "Unofficial estimates put the number of bodies in the grave at 200,000 to 300,000. "
That would be the work of Kaganovich. This story has been hidden from three generations of Americans. All the while, those three generations have been endlessly harangued with Yiddish fairy tales about a fictional "Holocaust", complete with bone-crushing machines and huge underground gas chambers.

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#182. To: jessejane (#181)

Wow, three lines in a post. Trying to up your average eh?

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   0:02:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: SmokinOPs (#182)

Wow, three lines in a post. Trying to up your average eh?

It took you that long to figure it out?

Surely you can dance faster.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-13   0:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: jessejane (#183)

Surely you can dance faster.

Surely you can knock off the cryptic bullshit and pretend like you can scrape a cogent argument together. Nah, I take that back. Rural backwaters were drained of any intellectual content years ago and you aren't the exception still dwelling there.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   0:12:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: SmokinOPs (#184)

Surely you can knock off the cryptic bullshit and pretend like you can scrape a cogent argument together. Nah, I take that back. Rural backwaters were drained of any intellectual content years ago and you aren't the exception still dwelling there.

Someone as intelligent as you say you are, wouldn't need extra help from the teacher. Your tone is annoying, and unappreciated. One would think you could muster up a bit more couth. You know, those with higher IQ's and such. I doubt very seriously if you could survive alone if tossed to rural backwaters. ROFL. In fact, I'd put money on it. In fact, I'd pay to watch.

Where you dwell swills on rat vomit.. And it shows.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-13   0:23:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: jessejane (#185)

Where you dwell swills on rat vomit.. And it shows.

Yep, on this thread with you and your comrades. Vile bunch of disaffected losers who never made it above partially employed construction worker who spend their downtime scouring the internet for reasons for their lot in life.

We're done.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   0:29:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: SmokinOPs (#186) (Edited)

Yep, on this thread with you and your comrades. Vile bunch of disaffected losers who never made it above partially employed construction worker who spend their downtime scouring the internet for reasons for their lot in life.

We're done.

ROFL!!

Awwwwwww... and you are here why??? ROFLMBO!!

Please, put me on your BOZO list. I don't want to be responsible for your Blood Pressure issues.. Rural Backwater fear and all.

Muaaaaaaaahahahahahahahaha................

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-13   0:34:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: SmokinOPs (#186)

Yep, on this thread with you and your comrades. Vile bunch of disaffected losers who never made it above partially employed construction worker who spend their downtime scouring the internet for reasons for their lot in life.

Welcome to Amalek, dude. Now go home.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-13   0:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#188)

Welcome to Amalek, dude.

Peetie,

How do you mean that reference?

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-13   0:57:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#190. To: SmokinOPs (#130)

Who's most? What do you think all the blood dancing and cheering of the American Imperial Legions around the world is? Tribalism.

They sell tribal magnets at every Muslim owned Quickee Mart in the US. They say " I support the troops".

Wait a minute, even though earlier I admitted this is an example of Us vs Them, in this case the WOT is not the result of racial/tribal conflict but something directed by members of special interest groups who are Christian and Jewish and don't all belong to the same racial/ethnic group.

These people have bombarded the American public with massive propaganda in order to persuade them to hate specific target groups such as Arabs, Muslims and others from the Mideast.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-13   0:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: jessejane, SmokinOPs (#131)

I suppor the troops is a tribal magnet?

ROFLMAO~!

Wish I had been that quick on the ball...

Diana  posted on  2006-09-13   1:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#192. To: christine, Cynicom (#164)

hey, even we americans is smarter. :P

I wonder about Israel being that low, Eastern European Jews have been measured to have the highest average IQ than any other group, though of course there are other people living in Israel.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-13   1:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#193. To: jessejane (#189)

Welcome to Amalek, dude.

Peetie,

How do you mean that reference?

Exodus 17:16 "The Lord has sworn that he will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." Historically, "Amalek" has been used in rabbinical literature to refer to any implacable "enemy of the Jews." That's how I meant it---OPP's schtick is to come in and antagonize us as a bunch of uneducated, red-knuckled, anti-Semitic beheymos that he can pour contempt on, if not make war on and exterminate. (Cute, isn't he? :P)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-13   1:19:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#194. To: SmokinOPs, jessejane, Ferret Mike, BTP Holdings, Cynicom (#177)

Bought two of them didn't you? One for the F-150 and another for the trailer. Bet it was a big disappointment finding out that magnets don't stick to aluminum siding. Just slap it on the propane tank out back, it'll be alright.

What is this fairly recent obsession some people seem to have stereotyping poor white people living in trailers???

Ferret Mike posted a funny but kinda mean-spirited site someone put together that makes fun of poor, white southern people. It portrayed them as being really stupid with missing teeth, filthy and living in broken-down trailers.

It's acceptable to put them down, they are the one remaining group that it's okey to make fun of, in fact it seems to be all the rage. They even show Jerry Springer in Europe, which helps to form European's opinions of Americans. Needless to say for the most part they don't have a good impression of Americans.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-13   1:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#195. To: Diana (#190)

in this case the WOT is not the result of racial/tribal conflict but something directed by members of special interest groups

Yep, that's it. It's those damn "special interests". Because history shows that Americans are so reluctant to kill foreigners. Yeah that's the ticket. We were tricked. Uh-huh.

"are Christian and Jewish and don't all belong to the same racial/ethnic group"

There are tribes of ideology and nation states.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   1:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: Diana (#194)

They even show Jerry Springer in Europe, which helps to form European's opinions of Americans. Needless to say for the most part they don't have a good impression of Americans.

Yeah, it's all Jerry Springer. It couldn't possibly be the typical Americans flag worshipping jingoism and that more Americans know where Jon Benet Ramsey was murdered than can find Iraq on a map.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   1:38:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#197. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, SmokinOPs, Jesse Jane (#193)

I posted all this before I read the rest of this thread.

Smokin Ops you did have a point about Us vs. Them, even if it wasn't a racial example. I guess in the long run it doesn't matter if it's racial or religious or cultural, people will always fight over something.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-13   1:45:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#198. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#193)

Yep Peetie, I'm part of the conspiracy. Get a clue. And if you want to be lumped in with the knuckle draggers, be my guest. And quoting Rabbinical pronouncements - of which 90% of Jews haven't ever heard in their life is as moronic as the Islamophobes who pull out Hadith texts to show that every Muslim at the 7/11 is just waiting to convert them or slit their throat. In other words: Bullshit.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   1:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#199. To: SmokinOPs (#196)

Our schools are so dumbed down to the lowest common denominator that the only people who can get a decent education anymore are those who can afford private schools for their children, or good home-schooling. Plus there are fewer and fewer real families, and it's difficult for young girls to raise children on their own, and it's even worse when people accept this as a normal lifestyle. This doesn't help matters, it just perpetuates poverty and ignorance. It's frustrating when so many people out there don't know anything besides their favorite tv shows and talk show hosts on the radio who scream propaganda garbage.

And it will get worse as standards in this country keep getting lowered in every way.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-13   1:51:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#200. To: SmokinOPs (#195)

Yep, that's it. It's those damn "special interests". Because history shows that Americans are so reluctant to kill foreigners. Yeah that's the ticket. We were tricked. Uh-huh.

Well it wasn't the dumb people living in those trailers who started the WOT.

And as you know Americans aren't the only ones with a history of killing others, I can think of many other countries who have killed far more, or the leaders of those countries to be more specific, yep those special interest guys, AKA The Powers That Be in any given country.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-13   2:44:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#201. To: SmokinOPs (#180)

Already established that.

Establish this: the term 'anti-semite' no longer has the negative connotations that it once did in America, so calling someone such a stupid name will no longer have the desired effect. What then?

I used to be nervous of being thought an anti-semite. Now, it's almost a moral imperative to be thought of as one.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-13   5:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, jessejane (#193)

(Cute, isn't he? :P)

I had that clown's number pretty quick, another CluelessPussy member come here to try to disrupt the 4um.

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-13   9:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#203. To: Diana (#104)

Those who now rule us place great importance on changing history, or so it seems.

Well look at this thread. That seems to be a trend among more than just our rulers...

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-13   9:26:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: Diana, Peetie Wheatstraw, Con Op is that you? (#194)

What is this fairly recent obsession some people seem to have stereotyping poor white people living in trailers???

If I didn't know better I would swear it was Con Op and not SmokinOPs throwing the insults. Peetie hit the nail on the head with the idiot.

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-13   9:29:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: bluedogtxn (#203)

Well look at this thread. That seems to be a trend among more than just our rulers...

I suppose that depends on your version of the truth. Too bad you've been buffaloed on this one.

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-13   9:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#206. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#193)

Exodus 17:16 "The Lord has sworn that he will have war with Amalek from generation to generation." Historically, "Amalek" has been used in rabbinical literature to refer to any implacable "enemy of the Jews." That's how I meant it---OPP's schtick is to come in and antagonize us as a bunch of uneducated, red-knuckled, anti-Semitic beheymos that he can pour contempt on, if not make war on and exterminate. (Cute, isn't he? :P)

Thanks Peetie.. That clears it up. Cute? Hate spewing hunched over Gargoyles that have run out of Nads are hardly that. They may have to find people dumber than they are to fight their wars for them soon.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-13   9:35:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#207. To: bluedogtxn (#203)

Well look at this thread. That seems to be a trend among more than just our rulers...

Yes it does. It stems from their delusion that the United States would be some libertarian/paleocon utopia if it wasn't for those damn Jews and their banking and political influence. You know, like those other countries throughout history who didn't have any Jewish influence. Like Imperial Japan, the Mongol Empire, the Ming Dynasty and the tribal Kingdoms of Sub-Saharan Africa. All those places were bubble gum trees and lollipop flowers without the Jews.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   9:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#208. To: Diana (#194)

They even show Jerry Springer in Europe

When I was in NY in '97 I found the theatre that is Springer's studio and I asked the tech guys in the trailer out front where we could set up to picket. They reached for the phone to call the cops and I got out of there. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-13   9:38:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#209. To: BTP Holdings (#204)

Peetie hit the nail on the head with the idiot.

Looks that way.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-13   9:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#210. To: BTP Holdings (#208)

When I was in NY in '97 I found the theatre that is Springer's studio

Really, because Jerry Springer is taped in Chicago. Hmm, that's odd.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-13   9:43:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#211. To: SmokinOPs, bluedogtxn (#207)

It stems from their delusion that the United States would be some libertarian/paleocon utopia if it wasn't for those damn Jews and their banking and political influence.

I think the stronger delusion is the one that the world wouldn't survive without Jews. I wonder who pushes it?

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-13   12:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#212. To: SmokinOPs (#198)

Yep Peetie, I'm part of the conspiracy. Get a clue. And if you want to be lumped in with the knuckle draggers, be my guest. And quoting Rabbinical pronouncements - of which 90% of Jews haven't ever heard in their life is as moronic as the Islamophobes who pull out Hadith texts to show that every Muslim at the 7/11 is just waiting to convert them or slit their throat. In other words: Bullshit.

Sorry, but I don't think you can win friends, let alone arguments, by insults and indulgence in meaningless epithets like "racist" and "anti-Semite." I'm perfectly willing to debate someone who I think is arguing the facts civilly and in good faith. For whatever reason, you don't want to do that. Thus you shouldn't waste your time with me, because I surely won't waste my time on you.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-13   12:58:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#213. To: christine, Diana, SmokinOPs, Tauzero, BTP Holdings, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, bluedogtxn (#156)

Re: this IQ list, I don't understand how most of the world can fall below the average?

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-13   13:01:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#214. To: bluedogtxn (#16)

my grandfather walked through the camps as an allied soldier, and he talked to me about it.

Eisenhower walked through those camps also. He never saw fit to mention 'gas chambers' in his memoirs.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-13   13:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#215. To: bluegrass (#213)

It's the aspartame generation.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-13   13:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#216. To: bluedogtxn, Diana, robin, Horse, BTP Holdings, Cynicom, Tauzero, SmokinOPs, Jethro Tull, lodwick, christine, Peetie Wheatstraw, aristeides, Eoghan, jessejane, noone222, Hmmmmm, Dakmar (#1) (Edited)

Does anyone actually think that the dynamics described below have changed one bit in 90 years?

Me neither.


“If we bear in mind that the Jewish firm of Kuhn, Loeb & Co. is connected with the Rheinisch-Westphalian Syndicate, a Jewish firm in Germany, with Lazard Freres, a Jewish firm of Paris, and also with the banking house of Gunzbourg, a Jewish firm in Petrograd, Tokyo and Paris, and if we in addition point out that the aforementioned Jewish trading firms maintain close relations to the Jewish firm of Speyer & Co. in London, New York and Frankfurt/Main, as likewise with Nye Banks, a Jewish-Bolshevist firm in Stockholm, then we can establish that the Bolshevist movement in itself is to a certain degree the expression of a universal Jewish movement, and that certain Jewish banking houses are interested in the organisation of this movement.”

THE FINANCIERS OF COMMUNISM


"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-13   14:37:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#217. To: bluegrass (#216)

Henry Ford tried to get the word out, back in his day.

Lod  posted on  2006-09-13   14:50:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#218. To: bluegrass (#213)

Re: this IQ list, I don't understand how most of the world can fall below the average?

Complement of Wobegon.


Es ist ein Ros entsprungen
Aus einer Wurzel zart.
Wie uns die Alten sungen,
Von Jesse kam die Art
Und hat ein Blümlein bracht,
Mitten im kalten Winter,
Wohl zu der halben Nacht.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-13   16:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#219. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#212)

Yep Peetie, I'm part of the conspiracy. Get a clue. And if you want to be lumped in with the knuckle draggers, be my guest. And quoting Rabbinical pronouncements - of which 90% of Jews haven't ever heard in their life is as moronic as the Islamophobes who pull out Hadith texts to show that every Muslim at the 7/11 is just waiting to convert them or slit their throat. In other words: Bullshit.

Notice how everyone who he says is opposed to what he posts is part of a "conspiracy." That reeks of robotoid botitis which is a fatal disease only if you refuse to open your eyes and ears.

BTW, Exodus is one of the first five books of the Old Testament, correct? That would make it a part of the Torah, of which any Jew worth his religious study would be aware.

Shows what a moron we are dealing with here, really. The more he spins, the deeper he buries himself in his own bullshit. ;0)

"Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." Henry David Thoreau

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-13   21:15:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#220. To: BTP Holdings (#219)

of which any Jew worth his religious study would be aware.

A majority of Jews don't even believe in God, let alone do any religious study. But I know, in your fantasy world they know the Torah, Talmud, Midrash and the Mishnah inside and out and hold those teachings in the deepest recessess of their heart as guidance on how to screw the Goy.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-20   22:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#221. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#212)

Sorry, but I don't think you can win friends...

I'm not here for friendship. I do that in the real world.

"...let alone arguments"

Win what argument? That the Holocaust happened. That was won long ago when it happened. I don't debate it with people anymore than I would debate the sky being blue with a demented man, and for the same reason.

"meaningless epithets like "racist" and "anti-Semite."

Buy a dictionary.

"I'm perfectly willing to debate someone who I think is arguing the facts civilly and in good faith."

A gold star for you today.

"I surely won't waste my time on you."

There's an ignore feature. Don't be afraid to use it.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-20   22:19:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#222. To: SmokinOPs (#221)

That the Holocaust happened. That was won long ago when it happened

Agree. We need another one. Maybe two.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-20   22:25:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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