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Title: Meet the Bolsheviks!
Source: Original Dissent
URL Source: http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6402
Published: Apr 04, 2003
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2006-09-12 13:15:15 by bluegrass
Ping List: *New History*
Keywords: None
Views: 7310
Comments: 224

Meet the Jewish people who murdered over 20 million innocents in Russia from 1917-onward, long before Hitler came to power. Yes, Virginia, Hitler was largely responding to that murder event with his own Holocaust, the Jewish community]. And yes, Virginia, we know that your history teacher never mentioned the Bolshevik holocaust -- neither did ours.

The few non-Jewish officials in the list below are specifically noted as being not Jewish. [Note on name spellings: Russian names are spelled differently depending upon the source, e.g., Yoffe is also spelled Ioffe and sometimes Joffe; Grigory is sometimes Grigori or even Grigorii].

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1. Vladimir I. Lenin (1870-1924): first Premier of the USSR; Marxist theoretician; a lawyer; founder of the Bolsheviks (1903); supreme dictator of early Bolshevik regime; founder of the Comintern; author of the Marxist handbook "State and Revolution"; Lenin was one-quarter Jewish, and was married to a Jewess.

2. Joseph Stalin (1879-1953): an early Bolshevik; supreme dictator of Soviet Union from 1927-1953. After V. Lenin's death, and prior to 1927, the Bolshevik regime was run by a triumvirate composed of Zinoviev, Kamenev, and Stalin. Stalin was the editor of the Bolshevik newspaper, Pravda ("Truth"). Stalin, like Lenin, was married to a Jewess. Stalin was not a vigorous supporter of forcing Communism upon other countries -- unlike Trotsky -- a feature which likely prevented a Soviet assault upon various Western countries. [Not Jewish]

3. Leon Trotsky (aka Bronstein) (1879-1940): Trotsky was a Menshevik; was Commissar of Foreign Affairs; supreme commander of the Soviet Red Army; member of Politburo; he rebelled against Stalin and his supporters and was murdered by Stalin for that reason. Trotsky strongly advocated the idea of global -- not simply local -- Marxist revolution.

4. Lazar M. Kaganovich (1893-1991): a prime director of mass-murder for Stalin; held a series of vocations, including commissar of transport, heavy industry and the fuel industry; a Politburo member; he was Stalin's brother-in-law and also his chief advisor; many execution orders bore Kaganovich's signature [1], evidence that he had the power to order the deaths of civilians [2]. During the 1930s, he was in charge of the deportations of "enemies of the state" to Siberia; was nicknamed the "Wolf of the Kremlin" because of his penchant for violence. He was considered by many to be the most powerful and important man under Stalin. Died of old age in Moscow.

5. Grigory Zinoviev (aka Apfelbaum; aka Radomyslsky) (1883-1936): great pal of Lenin; member of the Central Committee; chairman of the Comintern; member of Politburo; executive of secret police; first president of the Third International; A. Lunacharsky called him "one of the principal counsellors of our Central Committee and (he) belongs unquestionably to the four or five men who constitute the political brain of the Party."

6. Grigori Y. Sokolnikov (1888-1939): a Bolshevik; friend of Trotsky; Commissar of Finance; a diplomat; member of the "Left Opposition"; Soviet ambassador to England; creator of the "chervonetz," the first stable Soviet currency; was part of "Russian" delegation that signed the Brest-Litovsk treaty in 1918; member of the Central Committee and Politburo.

7. Moisei Uritsky (1873-1918): Uritsky was a Menshevik; chief of the Petrograd Cheka, in which capacity he ordered many people who opposed Communism to be executed as "counter-revolutionaries"; Commissar for Internal Affairs in the Northern Region; the commissar of the Constituent Assembly; member of the Central Committee; a member of the "Revolutionary Military Center."

8. Felix Dzherzhinsky (1877-1926): a Pole; a high-strung fanatic; founder/director of the Cheka (All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage), which was later renamed the State Political Directorate (GPU), which later became the OGPU and then the NKVD (Peoples Commissariat for Internal Affairs); member, Central Committee; Commissar of Transport. [Not Jewish, but philosemitic].

9. Maxim Litvinov (aka Wallakh) (1876-1951): Soviet foreign minister/diplomat/ambassador; in 1933, he persuaded the United States to recognize the Communist Soviet government as "legit" -- thanks, in part, to America's president F. D. Roosevelt being part-Jewish; first chairman, State Committee on the Anthem (official musical anthems).

10. Lavrenti Beria (1899-1953): member of the Cheka; later became head of the Peoples Commissariat for Internal Affairs (NKVD) in Georgia, then later the NKVD proper. Beria had large numbers of prisoners executed [3]; was involved in the Atomic Bomb project in the USSR; [Rumored by some to be a crypto-Jew; other sources insist he was not Jewish, but philosemitic].

11. Yakov (Jacob) Sverdlov (aka Solomon) (1885-1919): member, "Revolutionary Military Center"; member, Central Committee; close buddy of Lenin; aided Lenin with Lenin's political theories; Sverdlov ordered the massacre of the Czar's family in 1918. Sverdlov succeeded Kamenev and became the second Jewish president of the so-called "Soviet Republic."

12. Sergei M. Kirov (1886-1934); early Bolshevik; member of the Politburo; Secretary of the Central Committee; Communist Party boss in Leningrad. Stalin used Kirov’s murder in 1934 to justify the party purges and treason trials of the late 1930s. [Apparently not Jewish].

13. Nikolai V. Krylenko (1885-1938): an early Bolshevik; member of editorial board of Pravda; member of the executive committee of the Petrograd Soviet; famous chess player; member of the Communist Party Central Committee; a military commissar; as President of the Supreme Tribunal he prosecuted most political trials in the 1920s; in 1931, Stalin appointed Krylenko Commissar of Justice; he was involved in the convictions of many Communist Party members during the Great Purges. [Not Jewish]

14. Karl Radek (aka Sobelsohn) (1885-1939); early revolutionary; old confidante of Lenin; member of the Central Committee; an "international" Communist activist; a key player in the creation of the Comintern; a writer for the Soviet government newspaper Izvestia; participated in the Brest-Litovsk peace negotiations with Germany; he also was active in Germany, working with Jewish-German Communist Rosa Luxemburg.

15. Viacheslav I. Molotov (1890-1986): early Bolshevik; helped found Pravda newspaper; head of the Ukrainian Communist Party; member of the Politburo; Commissar for Foreign Affairs; headed a Politburo commission to "eliminate the kulaks as a class." [Apparently not Jewish but philosemitic; his wife was Jewish, named Zhemchuzina].

16. Vladimir Antonov-Ovseenko (1884-1939): a former Menshevik; Chief of Political Administration of the Red Army; an unofficial ambassador to Czechoslovakia and Poland; Commissar for Military Affairs in Petrograd; Commissar of War; led the Red Army invasion of the Ukraine; led the attack on the Winter Palace; editor of the Menshevik "Nashe Slovo" newspaper.

17. Yakov (Jacob) Yurovsky (y/b/d unknown): head of Ekaterinburg Cheka; "Commissar of Justice" for Ural Regional Soviet; the leader of the Bolshevik squad that carried out the murders of Czar Nicholas II and his family in 1918. The murder of mild-mannered Nicholas was carried out almost completely by Jews, including Goloshchekin, Syromolotov, Safarov, Voikov, in addition to Yurovsky.

18. Grigory Sergo Ordzhonikidze (1886-1937); member of the Politburo; Commissar for Heavy Industry; helped solidify Bolshevik power in Armenia and Georgia; Chairman of the Caucasus Central Committee of the Communist Party; First Secretary of the Transcaucasian Communist Party Committee; Chairman of the Central Committee of the Bolshevik Party; became Stalin's top economic official. [Apparently not Jewish].

19. Genrikh (Henry) Yagoda (1891-1938); a Polish Jew; former Cheka member; an officer in SMERSH, the Ninth Division of the OGPU, its liquidation arm; People's Commissar of Internal Affairs; chief of the NKVD; also in charge of gulag forced-labor camps. Developing fast-acting poisons was a Yagoda hobby; he created a laboratory for that purpose.

20. Lev Kamenev (aka Rosenfeld) (1883-1936); member of the Central Committee; Chairman of the Moscow Soviet; member of Politburo; author of Marxist handbook "The Dictatorship of the Proletariat," 1920; was elected first President of new Bolshevik government, aka "Soviet Republic" [Lenin was Premier]; was married to Trotsky's sister.

21. Anatoly V. Lunacharsky (1875-1933); an early Marxist; Commissar for Education and Enlightenment; League of Nations ambassador; key player in persuading Russian workers to support the Bolshevik Revolution; was an author - wrote the "Revolutionary Silhouettes" of top Bolshevik pals; [Apparently not Jewish].

22. Fedor (Theodore) Dan (1871-1947): was a Menshevik; was a member of the editorial board of the Menshevik journal "Iskra"; was author of the book "The Origins of Bolshevism" (1943), where he claimed that Bolshevism had been chosen by history to be "the carrier of socialism"; but he was actually an opponent of most Bolshevik ideas; he was sent into exile in 1921 after being arrested; he was married to Menshevik leader Julius Martov's sister.

23. Nikolai Bukharin (1888-1938): Lenin's chief Marxist theorist; general secretary/chairman of the Comintern; member of the Politburo; member, Central Committee; he was editor of Pravda and also Izvestia, a political newspaper; led, with Rykov, the "Right Opposition" to defend the NEP [New Economic Policy]; [Apparently not Jewish].

24. Nikolai Yezhov (1895-1939): early Bolshevik; served in various capacities in the Cheka, GPU, and OGPU; was military commissar in various Red Army units; was G. Yagoda's deputy; People's Commissar of Internal Affairs; head of NKVD; was deputy People's Commissar of Agriculture for the USSR.

25. Mikhail I. Kalinin (1875-1946); early Bolshevik; cofounder of the newspaper Pravda; nominal, "puppet" president of Soviet Union until 1946; replaced Sverdlov as Chairman of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee of the Communist Party; Chairman of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR.

26. Isaac Steinberg (y/b/d unknown); Commissar of Justice. Later brought Jewish-flavored radicalism to Australia.

27. Alexei Rykov (1881-1938); Premier of Soviet Union until 1930; member of Lenin's Politburo; Commissar of the Interior; Chairman of the Supreme Council of National Economy; Chairman of the Council of People's Commissars; led the "Right Opposition" with Bukharin to defend the NEP [New Economic Policy].

28. Matvei D. Berman (y/b/d unknown): chief of gulag system and Deputy Commissar of the NKVD; brother of Boris.

29. Naftaly Frenkel (y/b/d unknown): a director of the gulag prison camp system; Turkish-born; was works chief/chief overseer of the one-hundred-and-forty-mile-long Belomor (Baltic-White Sea) canal project in Russia, a canal linking the White Sea and the Baltic, built from 1931–34; it was created entirely with slave labor; 60,000 workers died building the canal, the project having a mortality rate of roughly 10%.

30. Adolph Yoffe (aka Ioffe) (1883-1927): Commissar of Foreign Affairs; ex-Menshevik; close friend of Trotsky's; helped publish the Pravda newspaper; delegate at the Brest-Litovsk peace negotiations; member of the State General Planning Commission; was later Soviet ambassador to China, Japan and Austria.

31. Lev Inzhir (y/b/d/ unknown): chief accountant for the gulag prison system.

32. Boris Berman ( -1938): served as the Byelorussian NKVD's Commissar until 1938; brother of Matvei.

33. K. V. Pauker (y/b/d unknown): head of the Operations Department of the NKVD.

34. Aleksandr Orlov (aka L. Feldbin) (1898-1970): member of the Cheka; advisor to Spanish Communists in Spain; commander, Soviet Red Army; later worked at the Law School of the University of Michigan in America (!).

35. Ilya Ehrenburg (1891-1967): Soviet propaganda minister during WWII; delegate for Moscow in the Supreme Soviet; Communist writer; organizing member of JAC [Jewish Anti-Fascist Committee]; worked for Izvestia newspaper; performed research regarding Spain for the NKVD; author of book "The Ninth Wave," and winner of two Stalin Prizes.


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Mass Grave of Massacred Poles Found in Ukraine: "Unofficial estimates put the number of bodies in the grave at 200,000 to 300,000. "
That would be the work of Kaganovich. This story has been hidden from three generations of Americans. All the while, those three generations have been endlessly harangued with Yiddish fairy tales about a fictional "Holocaust", complete with bone-crushing machines and huge underground gas chambers.

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#65. To: robin (#54)

The same thing is happening with the asians.

The Jews (semites) came out of Asia and have always hated the white man.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   15:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Tauzero (#62)

There goes the 5th amendment.

The court of history has neither a Fifth Amendment nor a presumption of innocence.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-12   15:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: SmokinOPs (#59)

One allows for the others.

So this means they are naturally more treacherous? Thought so. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   15:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#61)

The Jews in Russia overreacted to Tsarist persecution. The Germans overreacted to defeat in World War One and the Great Depression.

Both were wrong.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-12   15:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: SmokinOPs (#64)

And this is different from other totalitarian regimes abandonment of morality in what way?

Not different. Not worse. Not better. Bad. That's all.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-12   15:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Tauzero, bluegrass (#62)

That means Jesus was guilty of what he was charged with.

There goes the 5th amendment.

I guess that means we are all coke addicts, even if there is no proof of surgery for a deviated septum. Oh, wait, Clintoon had one of those. LOL

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   15:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: aristeides (#68)

The Jews in Russia overreacted to Tsarist persecution. The Germans overreacted to defeat in World War One and the Great Depression.

Both were wrong.

You almost always go wrong when you overreact. Take it from one who knows... ;)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-12   15:13:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: BTP Holdings (#67)

So this means they are naturally more treacherous?

No more so than any other group that has higher capabilities than the surrounding population. Does this mean the British are naturally more treacherous because they were able to subdue primitive African tribes? Or were European settlers in America more naturally treacherous because they were able to conquer disparate factions of Indians?

You act as if you've stumbled upon some answer to a Cosmic question no one else noticed. Well don't pat yourself on the back. It's pretty much known that cohesive collectives are able to dominate groups of lesser ability and cohesiveness.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   15:16:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: aristeides (#66)

The court of history has neither a Fifth Amendment nor a presumption of innocence.

The rules of evidence don't matter if you provide the historians.


Es ist ein Ros entsprungen
Aus einer Wurzel zart.
Wie uns die Alten sungen,
Von Jesse kam die Art
Und hat ein Blümlein bracht,
Mitten im kalten Winter,
Wohl zu der halben Nacht.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-12   15:19:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: SmokinOPs (#72)

It's pretty much known that cohesive collectives are able to dominate groups of lesser ability and cohesiveness.

It's "old news" then?

Known to whom?

Every 20 years or so a naive member of the American academy comes forward with evidence that blacks Americans really are less intelligent and more violent than white Americans. He's promptly run out of the academy.

Then the next guy comes along and thinks he's discovered something new.

And we all know who are disproportionately members of the academy.

If this feature of cohesive collectives is "old news", surely it is "old news" to this highly intelligent sub-population of the academy.

The subsequent running-out-of-the-academy seems curious, and bears investigating.


Es ist ein Ros entsprungen
Aus einer Wurzel zart.
Wie uns die Alten sungen,
Von Jesse kam die Art
Und hat ein Blümlein bracht,
Mitten im kalten Winter,
Wohl zu der halben Nacht.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-12   15:36:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: SmokinOPs (#72)

You act as if you've stumbled upon some answer to a Cosmic question no one else noticed.

Not hardly.

Oh, dont forget to watch your back. ;0)

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   15:36:30 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: SmokinOPs (#63)

We are fools to allow other cultures to erase our own

And what culture would that be: McDonald's, Wal-mart, Desperate Housewives on the tube for you?

No.

That would be the culture that wrote the Constitution.

That would be the culture that wrote the Bill of Rights.

That would be the culture that embraced immigrants from all over the world.

That would be the culture that produced 16 million American men to fight in WWII.

That would be the culture who built the greatest nation on earth and became the target of the grandchildren of the Bolsheviks.

Are you even an American?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-12   15:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Tauzero (#74)

If this feature of cohesive collectives is "old news", surely it is "old news" to this highly intelligent sub-population of the academy.

Well you knew about it. Did you have a secret decoder ring? You're confusing reaction to verbalizing of the known with the known itself. Just because it isn't discussed, it isn't a secret.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   15:44:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: robin (#76)

That would be the culture that wrote the Constitution.

We got that Constitution because there were no Jews there to try to scam a good deal for themselves. Like when they took over Russia, first order of business, law to hang anti-semites.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   15:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: robin (#76)

That would be the culture that wrote the Constitution.

That would be the culture that wrote the Bill of Rights.

Long gone.

" That would be the culture that embraced immigrants from all over the world."

Embraced? LOL, yeah sure. No immigrants were tolerated, not embraced. And they are tolerated for the same reasons they have always been tolerated around the world: economic.

"That would be the culture that produced 16 million American men to fight in WWII."

Culture of naivete?

" That would be the culture who built the greatest nation on earth and became the target of the grandchildren of the Bolsheviks."

Oh, yes, Commies under the bed did all this.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   15:50:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: bluegrass (#48)

We're in gentlemanly agreement on this.

Well, I was just so delighted after all the tussling I've done here, to see that you were nice enough to designate Stalin as "not Jewish"... ;)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-12   15:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: SmokinOPs (#77)

Well you knew about it. Did you have a secret decoder ring?

But of course -- web sites labeled as "hate" sites.


Es ist ein Ros entsprungen
Aus einer Wurzel zart.
Wie uns die Alten sungen,
Von Jesse kam die Art
Und hat ein Blümlein bracht,
Mitten im kalten Winter,
Wohl zu der halben Nacht.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-12   16:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: SmokinOPs (#79)

http://www.newswithviews.com/iserbyt/iserbyt7.htm

Former KGB counter-intelligence chief, General Oleg Kalugin, who is a Fox News commentator, recently stated that Admiral Poindexter's Office of Information Awareness (OIA) which is involved in spying on United States citizens, had hired both General Yevgeny Primakov and General Aleksandr V. Karpos, former KGB heads, as consultants and advisors. (Primakov in addition served as Russian Prime Minister in the late nineties.) (Note: The KGB was the Secret Police in the former Soviet Union)

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/j061303.html

TROTSKY, STRAUSS, AND THE NEOCONS
War Party's leftist and elitist roots exposed

That would be the culture that wrote the Bill of Rights.

Long gone.

That culture is still alive. Our fathers and forefathers fought for the freedoms that the NeoCommies are taking away as fast as they can.

THE ISRAEL LOBBY AND U.S. FOREIGN POLICY

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-12   16:03:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: SmokinOPs, robin (#79)

Oh, yes, Commies under the bed did all this.

Actually, much of it was done out in the open. The pivotal devices still needed a Gentile's Holiday to slither forth. ;)

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2006-09-12   16:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: robin (#82)

TROTSKY, STRAUSS, AND THE NEOCONS War Party's leftist and elitist roots exposed

LOL, you think the Empire wants to go Communist? Not hardly. It doesn't work and there is no money in it. Fascism is the direction where the game is headed. The neo-cons are just the minstrels of the month who sing the tune right now that serves DC's interests. When they aren't getting it done they'll find a new group to write papers on the new boogeyman.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   16:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: bluedogtxn (#17)

The systematic murder of about thirteen million people.

In Stalin's Russia the systematic murder of at least 20 million people.

We don't hear much about that though, not many movies and tv documentaries or radio talk-show hosts spouting off on that topic.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   16:29:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Diana (#85)

In Stalin's Russia the systematic murder of at least 20 million people.

You are correct. In Stalin's Russia the murder of perhaps 30 millions goes unheralded, at least, not in the forms of mini-series, movies, etc...

There were many under and unreported genocides in the last century and there is an ongoing one in Darfur that seemingly merits little angst among us.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-12   16:35:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#80)

I was just so delighted after all the tussling I've done here, to see that you were nice enough to designate Stalin as "not Jewish"

But he might as well have been. : ) Uncle Joe did put the 'anti-semitism is the death penalty' plum in the pie so the banking Choze would always love him.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   16:38:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: SmokinOPs, robin (#84)

you think the Empire wants to go Communist?

They already have. They're exporting worldwide revolution democracy.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   16:40:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: SmokinOPs (#56)

Same reason small-town shopkeeps don't want big-box retailers moving in: because they can't or don't want to compete.

So Jews are the big chains and the rest of us are the mom-and-pops being run out of business. It's your analogy and it's one I agree with.

Tribal Jews get ahead by fraud and force. If they didn't have the power of the State backing and protecting them from people attempting to defend themselves, they'd be fucked. Jewish crooks get run out on a rail when they lose influence in the State structure.

Then again, much of what's called 'terrorism' these days is just self-defense. Just as in Jewish Russia, self-defense was called 'counter-revolutionary activity'.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   16:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: robin (#82)

That culture is still alive.

Yes it is.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-12   16:47:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: bluedogtxn, Diana (#86)

There were many under and unreported genocides in the last century and there is an ongoing one in Darfur that seemingly merits little angst among us.

I don't see prominent Jews or Jewish groups being too concerned about the slaughter of hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Arabs/Muslims since the Clinton regime.

Israel has a hand in Darfur and the Sudan, btw. You'll never hear the "Save Darfur" synagogues mention it though.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   16:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: SmokinOPs, robin (#43)

What point is that? That other tribes don't have an average IQ one standard deviation above the rest of the world that gives them an articulateness and allows them to get powerful positions to where their story is heard?

Jews are smarter. Smarter people get farther in life. People farther in life have more attention paid to them. Get used to it.

What happened to "we're all the same", "everyone is equal", "there are no inherent differences in the races and to say so is racist"??

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   16:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: SmokinOPs, Tauzero, Cynicom (#77)

If this feature of cohesive collectives is "old news", surely it is "old news" to this highly intelligent sub-population of the academy.

I always thought that anyone intimating or insinuating that Jews work together are just anti-semites? ; )

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   16:52:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: bluedogtxn (#86)

There were many under and unreported genocides in the last century

America's Third World War: The Secret Wars of the CIA

But there's oil under those hills over there. That explains it!

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   17:04:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Diana, SmokinOPs, robin (#92)

What happened to "we're all the same", "everyone is equal", "there are no inherent differences in the races and to say so is racist"??

All the goyim are the same. It's racist to say otherwise. It's also racist to hold Jewish groups to account for their misdeeds or to even think that they'd engage in them.

"Stiff-necked and thin-skinned is no way to go through life, son."

bluegrass  posted on  2006-09-12   17:06:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: bluegrass (#95)

I always thought that anyone intimating or insinuating that Jews work together are just anti-semites? ; )

I see 4um is beginning to load up with Jew revisionists, apologists and propaganda artists.

Anti-goyism is on the march. Perhaps we need a GDL or even a anti-goyism hanging law. Thats the ticket. We want to be as "tolerant" as our Jewish friends.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   17:10:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: SmokinOPs, BTP Holdings (#59)

To: BTP Holdings

Smarter, or more devious and cunning? One allows for the others.

Honesty, empathy and compassion are personality traits that people have or don't have in varying degrees.

If anything less intelligent people tend to be a bit more dishonest and tribal in their behavior, for instance third-world countries are rampant with corruption and nepotism.

Personally I regard deviousness and cunning as traits of those who are not highly evolved spiritually.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   17:11:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: bluegrass, SmokinOPs, robin (#88)

Where on earth do you suppose this business of continual revolution originated but from Trotsky himself?

The neocons simply transformed it into spreading democracy. Same thing but with a flavor the brainwashed (for the last century or more) sheeple have come to accept.

And the communitarian George W. Bush has embraced it whole hog. ROTFLOL!

"Never has so much military and economic and diplomatic power been used so ineffectively, and if after all of this time, and all of this sacrifice, and all of this support, there is still no end in sight, then I say the time has come for the American people to turn to new leadership not tied to the mistakes and policies of the past." Richard M. Nixon

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-12   17:13:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Cynicom (#96)

I see 4um is beginning to load up with Jew revisionists, apologists and propaganda artists.

Since I assume you are aiming that at me, I apologize.

Sorry to break up your little anti-Semitic playground.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-12   17:14:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: bluegrass (#93)

I always thought that anyone intimating or insinuating that Jews work together are just anti-semites?

Nope, but you are an anti-semite. Actually you mostly come off as someone afflicted with a pathetic jealousy. You have to cococt these fantastic theories about how .01% of the world is involved in nefarious activities to somehow deprive your tribe of its due glory.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   17:14:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: bluegrass (#87)

Uncle Joe did put the 'anti-semitism is the death penalty' plum in the pie so the banking Choze would always love him.

Well, yeah---he did play to the audience. And he knew of not simply the power and influence emigrant Russian Jewish communities had achieved in the West, but also of the pressure that could be put on individuals in those communities through his control over relatives they had left behind in the Soviet "republics." A "carrot-and-stick" approach, if you will.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-12   17:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Diana (#92)

What happened to "we're all the same", "everyone is equal", "there are no inherent differences in the races and to say so is racist"??

Never existed. You must have constructed it yourself. Good luck with that strawman.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-12   17:16:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: bluedogtxn (#99)

Since I assume you are aiming that at me, I apologize.

Never assume anything.

It was "aimed" and sent to Bluegrass, if it offends you, speaking the truth should never offend anyone.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-12   17:18:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: bluedogtxn (#86)

There were many under and unreported genocides in the last century and there is an ongoing one in Darfur that seemingly merits little angst among us.

The other day I was listening to our only FM station here, and there was a talk- show guy Steve Gill who was going on and on about how the terrorists want to kill us. He then said something about WWII, how we don't want that kind of thing to happen again, and he described it as the war "where we had to get rid of Hitler because he was trying to kill all the Jews, oh, and Japan too".

I couldn't believe it. I used to suspect that the majority of high school students probably think WWII was all about Hitler, but now probably the majority of adults have been conditioned to think the same. Soon they'll need to change the name from WWII to the War on Hitler because WWII implies there was more to it than fighting Hitler.

Those who now rule us place great importance on changing history, or so it seems.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-12   17:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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