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Title: Jews attack leading alternative 9/11 scholar Dr. Steven Jones
Source: http://www.originaldissent.com/forums/showthread.php?p=16004
URL Source: http://OD
Published: Sep 14, 2006
Author: Tad Walch
Post Date: 2006-09-14 06:11:04 by bluegrass
Keywords: None
Views: 2027
Comments: 63

PROVO — Stung by what he said are false accusations of anti-Semitism, Brigham Young University physics professor Steven Jones said Wednesday he has decided to stop talking about who might have been behind what he has alleged was government involvement in the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

"That's what I've resolved for the future, even when pushed," Jones told the Deseret Morning News. "I'll stick with the science, thank you."

Jones began last year to research the physics behind the way the World Trade Center towers fell. Disturbed by the remarkable speed with which they fell and emboldened by his own experiments on ground zero materials, he developed a hypothesis that the collapse of the towers was aided by pre-positioned demolition charges. He later began to say the charges must have been set by a group inside the U.S. government.

BYU placed Jones on paid leave last week, in part for what it called "the increasingly speculative and accusatory nature of these statements by Dr. Jones."

The action came two days after Jones appeared on KUER-FM 90.1's respected news talk show "Radio West." On the show, he said it appeared responsibility for the attacks rested with Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and an "international banking cartel."

The statement drew immediate response from Jews who said they were offended because references to international banking have for decades been used by anti-Semitic groups as codespeak to blame Jews for various problems. Hitler often blamed "international financiers" for Germany's debt after World War I.

A spokesman for the Anti-Defamation League said he will recommend in a committee meeting tomorrow that the ADL send a letter to BYU complaining about the comments and expressing concern that such comments might be made by Jones in his classes. BYU relieved Jones of his teaching load this semester while it conducts a formal review of his research and statements.

"Wow, I don't know if he could be any clearer," said Jonathan Bernstein, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League for California, Utah and Hawaii. "This is the language we hear from David Duke and other hatemongers who want to scapegoat Jews."

Jones was flummoxed by the accusation, saying he was "startled" when told the phrase carried anti-Semitic overtones. He wasn't sure where he got the phrase because he was referring to the work of Webster Tarpley, a historian and member of the Scholars for 9/11 Truth, a group co-founded by Jones. Tarpley refers only to a shadowy, rogue network, not to international bankers.

"I'll name them as Tarpley names them," Jones said on KUER. "Wolfowitz and Perle, in particular — they do happen to be neocons — but there is a much larger group behind these (attacks) which is the international banking cartel which controls trillions of dollars and which has an interest in controlling countries in the Middle East which are not under their control."

Jones said his reference to international banking might have been influenced by Cleon Skousen, a former BYU instructor and author who claimed international bankers were behind the rise of communism and fascism. Jones shared his research on 9/11 at Skousen's home in the fall of 2005 before Skousen died.

Jones said he regrets talking about who might have been behind the attacks and from now on will leave that investigation to Tarpley and other members of the self-named "9/11 truth movement." "In the past, numerous times I deferred to those experts," Jones said. "This time I said, in my opinion, (Tarpley's) right. But I also think that's way outside the research I specialize in. I think it's smarter to leave the tasks of who should be investigated to those who specialize in those things."

Instead, he'll concentrate on his research about evidence from ground zero and the intriguing, unsettled questions about why the third World Trade Center building, Building Seven, fell later on Sept. 11 without being struck by a plane. A report by the National Institute of Standards and Technology is due early next year.

Jones contends measurements he took of a sample of the molten metal found under all three buildings show it is not aluminum from the planes nor structural steel.

"I can be proven wrong," Jones said. "I accept that. But whoever does it will have to explain this molten metal to me, and especially all the barium found. That's nasty stuff that's not going to be used in a building."

Jones said he doesn't blame Jews for the attacks.

"I had no idea this would be some sort of codespeak for anti-Semitism," Jones said. "It is not right to link such a group to Jews."

Salt Lake Valley resident Scott Klepper said Jones' statements were hurtful. "As a Jew, I view Jones' unsubstantiated conclusion as an affront to the Jewish community, to BYU and to real researchers and academics." Subscribe to *Hasbarfa Alert*

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#4. To: bluegrass (#0) (Edited)

A spokesman for the Anti-Defamation League said he will recommend in a committee meeting tomorrow that the ADL send a letter to BYU complaining about the comments and expressing concern that such comments might be made by Jones in his classes.

Why would the ADL be so bothered by Prof. Jones and his wacky (/sarcasm) theories? Answer: 911 led to Iraq which is Israel's deal. It's time for those with their heads planted in their anatomy to do some remidial research. Don't rely on what is posted or said; do your own work. I honestly believe it will change your opinion.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-14   8:11:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

I honestly believe it will change your opinion.

goyishe kopf

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-14   13:24:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Tauzero, Jethro Tull (#33)

goyishe kopf

Had to look it up.. Perhaps Taz can further translate the response as it applies to JT's post. Want to keep things in context and common language.


> goyish(e) mind of a goyim He's got a real goyishke kup.

That's "goyishe kopf" --- for head. (Yiddish is actually an old German dialect with a smattering of Hebrew mixed in; this "kopf" is the same word you can find in occasional English imports from modern German like "dummkopf").


03 December 2005 More on Pinker: Goyishe Kopf

I somehow forgot this little anecdote that kicked off Steven Pinker's lecture the other night. I don't have the details down exactly, but basically Pinker was talking about his grandfather who owned a garment factory where they made neckties. One day Pinker's father went to visit him and was told he was in a backroom. There Pinker's father saw the grandfather working on fabric with a sewing machine. He asked him what he was doing. He was working on the cut-out remnants of fabric and "if I sew them a certain way I can get a few exta ties out of the lot." Ok, said his father, but why are you doing this rather than one of your workers. The grandfather looked at him, poked a finger to his head, and said "Goyishe Kopf" - Gentile brains!

The story gives a flavor of the kind of audience Pinker was addressing - it's telling that several of the older audience members around me laughed at the "Goyishe Kopf" - they didn't need to wait for the translation. I think part of Pinker's message with the story was to set the table for the audience that the idea of superior Ashkenazi intelligence should be nothing shocking - they all know it already even if they don't admit it.

(source: http://lyingeyes.blogspot.com/2005/12/more-on-pinker-goyishe- kopf.html)

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-14   23:35:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: jessejane, Jethro Tull (#53)

"He wasn't exactly serious, but he wasn't exactly not serious either."

And in this context I suppose I mean to say that some of them take it very seriously. Implacably so.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-15   12:44:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Tauzero (#54)

goyishe kopf

"He wasn't exactly serious, but he wasn't exactly not serious either."

And in this context I suppose I mean to say that some of them take it very seriously. Implacably so.

So your comment to JT of "goyishe kopf", which when I interpret the information I looked to and posted to mean, 'dumb gentile', you seem to say, it translates to taking something so serious, they are relentless in their curiousity..

Am I understanding that right? If so, does that imply only dumb gentiles take such things seriously? I'm seriously trying to get the context right.. AND, I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, only translate the ones from them to the post.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-15   18:23:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: jessejane (#55)

Dumb goy is indeed the meaning of the term. It's a term more people should know about, IMO. Among others.

I wish there was a lot more curiosity.

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-15   19:02:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Tauzero (#56)

Dumb goy is indeed the meaning of the term. It's a term more people should know about, IMO. Among others.

I wish there was a lot more curiosity.

So the comment was directed at the article's author?

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-15   19:19:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: jessejane (#57)

Lady, I don't even remember the author of the article anymore. :/

I suppose I could look it up, but my answer would still be "no."

Tauzero  posted on  2006-09-15   19:24:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#59. To: Tauzero (#58)

To: jessejane Lady, I don't even remember the author of the article anymore. :/

I suppose I could look it up, but my answer would still be "no."

Okay, I understand. The comment was to the poster as being a dumb gentile.

That's what I thought from the beginning, but wanted to make sure I understood it in the proper context.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-15 19:31:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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