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Title: Was the NIST Proof of Structural Damage to WTC 7 Photoshopped?
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URL Source: http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/June2004WT ... Fire&CollapseAnalysisPrint.pdf
Published: Sep 15, 2006
Author: honway
Post Date: 2006-09-15 22:23:46 by honway
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The FEMA Performance Study Group was the first formal investigation of the collapse of the World Trade Center Buildings.

From the FEMA Report, Chapter 5:
"According to the account of a firefighter who walked the 9th floor along the south side following the collapse of WTC 1, the only damage to the 9th floor facade occurred at the southwest corner."(emphasis added)

Years later, after independent investigators were focusing on the WTC 7 collapse, the NIST released the photo below as photographic proof there was significant structural damage to WTC 7. Since there was only one photo released, I thought that was odd.

Please note that the damage to the southwest corner in the NIST released photo above is not consistent with the damage in the photo below.

Note the two floors with smoke damage on the southwest corner, floors 29 and 30, in the photo above. Count down 15 floors below foor 29. That corner is missing in the NIST photo submitted as the proof there was significant structural damage to WTC 7 as a result of the collapse of the North Tower. (2 images)

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#1. To: All (#0)

Here is a larger version of the bottom photograph.

http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc106.JPG

honway  posted on  2006-09-15   22:25:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: honway (#1)

Is that bottom photograph of the SW corner of WTC7? If so then this proves something is indeed amiss here. Either the investigators didn't look at this photo or they wrongly assumed that the top photo showed significant structural damage when maybe all it really showed was a lot of smoke covering up the SW corner of the building. I would highly doubt they would Photoshop a photo like this; there are too many digital photographic experts out there that would more than likely be able to tell a fake from the real thing. If the photo was altered (which I don't think it was) it certainly wouldn't have been done with Adobe Photoshop, but something much more cutting edge.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-09-15   22:37:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: RickyJ (#3)

"If the photo was altered (which I don't think it was) it certainly wouldn't have been done with Adobe Photoshop, but something much more cutting edge."

No doubt they would have used something more cutting edge and have taken in to consideration the analysis angle. None the less, it is a high stakes game to either forge that way, or accuse of forgery by that method.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-15   22:52:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Ferret Mike (#6) (Edited)

None the less, it is a high stakes game to either forge that way, or accuse of forgery by that method.

I am just posting the evidence.

The NIST maintains the collapse of the North Tower caused the damage to the southwest corner of WTC 7. Both photos are after the collapse of the North Tower.

One photo shows the 15th and adjacent floors on the southwest corner as still part of the structure.
http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc106.JPG

The NIST photo shows a substantial portion of the 15th and adjacent floors at the southwest corner missing,gone, not in the picture.

honway  posted on  2006-09-15   23:08:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

Looking down this street, the southwest corner of WTC 7 is on the left side of the street.

Based on the NIST photo, I am not sure the corner we are looking at is supposed to be there.

honway  posted on  2006-09-15   23:15:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All, *9-11* (#8) (Edited)

In the photo above, above the three large windows on the west face of WTC 7, there is a horizontal row of 14 windows. That means the southwest corner of the bottom row of 14 windows were intact. You can count them.

Does anyone think that is consistent with the damage to the southwest corner shown in the photo below?

honway  posted on  2006-09-15   23:25:02 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: honway (#9)

I honestly don't see how NIST or anybody else could say that this photo shows significant structural damage. What it does show is a lot of smoke covering up the southwest corner of the buliding.

RickyJ  posted on  2006-09-15   23:59:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: all (#10) (Edited)

http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

Two relevant photos from the NIST Appendix on pages 24 and 25.

honway  posted on  2006-09-16   0:03:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#13. To: All (#11) (Edited)

One example.

In the photo below, there is a window visible on the 15th floor on the west face exactly where it should be. If you were standing in front of the west face of the building, it would be the window furtherest to your right on the 15th floor. http://www.amanzafar.com/WTC/wtc106.JPG

In the NIST photo on page 24 below, there is no window in that location.It is gone.Along with a big chunk of the building. http://wtc.nist.gov/progress_report_june04/appendixl.pdf

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