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Title: Was the NIST Proof of Structural Damage to WTC 7 Photoshopped?
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URL Source: http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/June2004WT ... Fire&CollapseAnalysisPrint.pdf
Published: Sep 15, 2006
Author: honway
Post Date: 2006-09-15 22:23:46 by honway
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The FEMA Performance Study Group was the first formal investigation of the collapse of the World Trade Center Buildings.

From the FEMA Report, Chapter 5:
"According to the account of a firefighter who walked the 9th floor along the south side following the collapse of WTC 1, the only damage to the 9th floor facade occurred at the southwest corner."(emphasis added)

Years later, after independent investigators were focusing on the WTC 7 collapse, the NIST released the photo below as photographic proof there was significant structural damage to WTC 7. Since there was only one photo released, I thought that was odd.

Please note that the damage to the southwest corner in the NIST released photo above is not consistent with the damage in the photo below.

Note the two floors with smoke damage on the southwest corner, floors 29 and 30, in the photo above. Count down 15 floors below foor 29. That corner is missing in the NIST photo submitted as the proof there was significant structural damage to WTC 7 as a result of the collapse of the North Tower. (2 images)

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#19. To: honway (#0) (Edited)

http ://www.danielsnews.com/modules/coppermine/albu m s/userpics/10026/b7_debris2.jpg

http://www.mediumrecords.com/wtc/blg7.00 9b.jpg

http://www.mediumrecords.com/wtc/blg7.c omp1.jpg

http://www.mediumrecords.com/wtc/blg7. comp1a.jpg

Here are some after photos of girders of wtc 7.

I been saying this all along. If there was this GIANT scoop out of the south face that was 20 stories high, there would be credible pictures and credible witnesses.

In the NIST rerort On pg 18:

"Damage to the south face was described by a number or individuals. While the accounts are mostly consistent, there are some conflicting descriptions:

middle 1/4 to 1/3 width of the south face was gouged out from floor 10 to the ground

At 12:10 to 12:15 p.m.:

Firefighters found individuals on floors 7 & 8 and led them out of the building

No heavy debris was observed in the lobby area as the building was exited, primairly white dust coating and black wires hanging from celing areas were observed"

Chief Frank Fellini:

".....building number seven, which had taken a big hit from the tower. When it fell it ripped steel out from between the third and the sixth floors accross the facade on Vesy street."

Boyle's statement about "a hole 20 storys tall in the building" is in conflict with "No heavy debris was observed in the lobby" and Chief Fellinis' statement and a 10 story gouge, he must have been refering to the south west corner.

Who stated that there was a 10 story gouge in WTC7 ?

This shows that there was no severe damage to the lobby and therefore no damage to support columns 69, 72 and 75.

at page 50-51:

Quote:

"From an analysis of the observed collapse sequence, the following general sequence of events appears possible:

1. Debris damaged the south face of the perimeter moment frame and some interior core framing on the south side. The debris impact severed approximately a quarter to a third of the south face perimeter columns. The damaged floors are less certain, but reports indicate they occurred between the ground and up to Floors 15 or 20. The extent of damage, both structural and to fireproofing, of core framing is not known, but damage to elevator cars and shafts was reported to have occurred around columns 69 to 78 at Floors 8 or 9.

page 43:

Quote:

I3.6 Columns, Transfer Girders or Transfer Trusses Fail: The fires could have failed interior columns, transfer girders, transfer trusses, or their framing connections.

o I4.4 Lateral Displacements: Fire effects may have caused column instability failure by lateral displacements from asymmetric thermal expansion of the floor system. Such thermally- induced displacements must overcome the restraining effect of the remaining floor system against further lateral deflection of the column."

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I see nothing here that states that the damage necesserally had to have been to the lobby, or that damage from the debris of the WTC1 collapse had to be the only cause for these columns to fail.

This says that fire could have caused the damage to the columns, at any floor where there were fires.

There's no evidence to suggest that falling debris damaged any interior core framing.

Chief Fellini stated that the damage was between the third and sixth floors (no mention of the 14th floor) and could not have effected the elevators on the 8th floor.

Pg 18 12:10 pm "No fires, heavy dust or smoke were reported as they left Floor 8"

There was no 20 story hole that would have taken out the lobby and damaged columns 69, 72 and 75.

REMINDER: Any info here quoting the NIST report is dealing with the NIST report on WTC 1 and 2, which is not the final report on WTC 7. That report is still pending and I'm sure they are trying real hard to come up with something.

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