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Title: A Conspiracy Against Us All
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URL Source: http://article.nationalreview.com/? ... M0M2ZjOTUwZWU4YWRiMjRlOTVjZGM=
Published: Sep 11, 2006
Author: Andrew Cline
Post Date: 2006-09-16 13:16:49 by It Is A Republic
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Comments: 428
Five years after 9/11, the truth about what happened that day is more thoroughly documented and widely available than ever. And yet the crackpot conspiracy theories alleging that the Bush administration orchestrated the attacks or allowed them to happen have become more deeply entrenched and broadly accepted than at any time since that terrible day. More than a third (36 percent) of the American public believes it is likely that the Bush administration either perpetrated the 9/11 attacks or deliberately failed to stop them “because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East,” according to a Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll released last month. A Zogby poll in August 2004 found that half of New York City residents believed the Bush administration knew the attacks were coming and “consciously failed to act.” The true believers might be a tiny fringe element, but thanks to the Internet, hack academics, and a passive media, they have succeeded in planting a grain of doubt in the minds of a substantial number of Americans. The Internet is a brilliant vehicle for the dissemination of half-truths — or what only have the appearance of half-truths. Presenting one-sided versions of the story, which usually leave out mountains of available data, and armed with a few snapshots or video clips, conspiracy theorists have crafted page after page of “proof” of their theories. For example, photographs showing dust and smoke shooting out of the towers as they collapse are cited on website after website as proof that the towers were brought down by explosions. The theory is reasonable enough, so long as you ignore all the available evidence — which is exactly what the theorists do. Numerous engineers who’ve studied the towers, and even ones who haven’t, have concluded that the puffs of smoke and debris are the result of air being pressed outward by the force of the top floors falling. It is really rather elementary: The physical space occupied by any office building consists mostly of air; if the top floors fall, where does the air in the floors below go? Out. There is no other option. Yet the theorists claim that this perfectly expected expulsion of air is proof that bombs were used. The most prevalent theory is that the government brought the towers down by controlled demolition. This is what Brigham Young University physics professor Steven Jones, put on leave by BYU last week, believes — once again, despite the preponderance of facts showing otherwise. Jones and his followers believe that the government placed thermite explosives in the buildings and brought them down by detonation. Never mind that thousands of pounds of explosives would somehow have to have been planted throughout the towers — in office space, behind walls, etc. — without anyone noticing. The “proof” of this theory is that the towers came down so quickly: The resistance of the lower floors would have slowed the collapse — unless, that is, the lower floors were exploded. The video evidence clearly refutes this claim. The towers unquestionably collapsed from the top down, not bottom up. The force of the collapsing top floors, combined with the weakened steel below, were enough to bring the towers down remarkably quickly — almost in free fall, in fact. A good example of the flimsiness of the conspiracy theories is the claim that a video shows “molten steel” falling from one of the towers. A jet-fuel fire is not strong enough to melt steel, so the picture “proves” that thermite explosives were used. The National Institutes for Standards and Training found was that the photo really shows melted aluminum from one of the aircraft. The theorists scream that melted aluminum is white, and the metal in question is clearly yellow, case closed. In its pure state, melted aluminum is white, but of course, it wasn’t pure when coming out of the towers. It was mixed with all the other burned debris, which changed its color. The conspiracy theories rely on just that sort of thinking. They approach 9/11 as if it were a controlled scientific experiment: In theory, things are supposed to work in a certain way; because they did not, the official story cannot be true. Conspiracy theorists have little patience for facts of life, such as bureaucratic incompetence, human error, and extreme conditions. They tend to believe that the government functions at peak, even superhuman, levels. Their regard for the government — or at least, for the competence of the government — is particularly strange. The top conspiracy theorist, David Ray Griffin, claims the official story cannot possibly be true is because “such incompetence by FAA officials is not believable.” The support of “academics” such as Griffin has lent much credence to the conspiracy mongers, but how credible are these academics? Last Wednesday Britain’s Daily Mail published a story claiming: “The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people dead was an ‘inside job,’ according to a group of leading academics.” But the group in question, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, of which Griffin is the most prominent member, is in no sense a “group of leading academics.” It is a collection of like-minded crackpot theorists who happen to have some connection to academia. Scholars for 9/11 Truth claims about 300 total members, 76 of whom have “academic affiliations,” according to its founder, retired University of Minnesota-Duluth philosophy professor James H. Fetzer. He told this to my newspaper, the New Hampshire Union Leader, last month when one of our reporters discovered that a University of New Hampshire professor was a member and wanted to teach a class on 9/11. The UNH professor, William Woodward, teaches psychology — not engineering or physics — is a Quaker pacifist previously arrested for demonstrating at the office of U.S. Senator Judd Gregg, and has a long history of left-wing activism. When asked by a reporter to explain his theory that the planes were not hijacked airliners, Woodward admitted that he could not account for the missing passengers who boarded their flights and never returned. Nonetheless, he was convinced that he was right — because the official 9/11 report left too much unexplained, he said. That is how it usually is in the world of conspiracy theorists. It seems that they all claim the official story cannot be true because it has too many holes, yet goes on to posit a theory with holes large enough to, well, fly a jumbo jet through. Some members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth are or were legitimate academics of good standing at reputable institutions. Yet, of the 76 Fetzer identifies as having “academic affiliations,” there are many with questionable credentials. A partial list includes a “visiting professor of English” at Kyungpook National University in Daegu, South Korea; an assistant professor of English literature at Dogus University in Istanbul; someone whose qualifications are listed only as “Radiology, Medical hypnosis”; another whose qualifications are “French language and culture”; someone who teaches at Tunxis Community College in Farmington, Conn.; another listed as “architect, communicator”; one professor of “English and theater” at the University of Guelph (that’s in Ontario); and one listed as “author, researcher 9/11, JFK, more.” These are some of the “leading academics” promoting the view that the government did 9/11. One author with an article posted on the Scholars for 9/11 Truth website goes by the name “Scooby Doo.” Of the 76 full members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, only four are listed as having backgrounds in physics, three in engineering; the other 69 “scholars” are mostly in the humanities and social sciences. Not quite what you’d expect when you hear that a group of “leading academics” supports the theory that the government was behind the attack. What do the vast majority of actual engineers and investigators who’ve studied the attacks conclude? Not unexpectedly, that the towers and the Pentagon were attacked by airliners hijacked by radical Islamic extremists, and the towers collapsed as a result of the aircraft collisions and fires. Every major investigation, from the 9/11 Commission to a panel of experts assembled by Popular Mechanics magazine to the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST), has come to the same conclusion. And yet more and more people continue to believe the handful of conspiracy nuts. Why? The Internet bears some responsibility, of course. But the amateur speculation so prevalent there can be cancelled out to a large degree by top-notch investigative reporting, which is what the big media are supposed to do. In this, however, the media have been less than thorough, and, to a large extent, the 9/11 conspiracy theories have spread because the mainstream media have failed in their duty to get to the truth of the matter. Popular Mechanics did an excellent job refuting the conspiracy theorists, as has the NIST. But their work has been little explored by the mainstream press. On top of that, media outlets have tended to do puff pieces on the conspiracy theorists rather than expose their shoddy research. Too many reports on the conspiracy nuts treat them as if their ideas are to be given the same consideration as the facts. The conspiracy theorists are given the standard J-school “fairness treatment.” Get a quote from Person A and another from Person B, present both sides evenly, and leave it at that. The Washington Post did exactly that in its piece on the conspiracy theorists last Friday. What ever the merits of that approach, it doesn’t work in this case. None of the conspiracy theories can stand up to scrutiny; that they have stood up at all is mostly because the mainstream press has not given them any real scrutiny. The academics tend to be treated with the respect any other academic would get, and because they are professors the stories are made to read just like any other dispute between professors. But in reality, the scholars peddling the 9/11 theories are practicing almost entirely outside of their realm of expertise (e.g., Griffin, the theologian) and are an ultra-tiny minority dismissed as crackpots by the vast majority of the academic world, not to mention the world of engineering. As a result, five years after nearly 3,000 innocent people were slaughtered by radical Islamic terrorists, and just as the War on Terror enters an important new phase in which President Bush has vowed to take on both al Qaeda and its allies, and Iran and its puppets, a third of the American people reportedly think the enemy is not the jihadists, who are trying to destroy us, but our own government, which is trying to defend us against the real threat. This is a serious development. If people don’t understand who the real enemy is, if they doubt the very basis upon which our response to 9/11 was initiated, they are not going to support our necessary war against those who are trying to destroy us. One may have his doubts about the Iraq war; and the Bush administration, in its justification and execution, has earned a great deal of the skepticism about that conflict. But the War on Terror is another matter entirely. The skepticism about that has not been earned; it has been manufactured. We cannot allow the truth of what happened on 9/11 to be clouded by the conspiracy nuts. America cannot afford to lose the will to fight this war.
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#1. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
Good to have the input of a blind, blue-pill, bot.
Author is quite afraid to say who truly benefitted.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
What a pant load. Has this been reported by anyone from the National Review? Lloyd Goldman Real Estate Weekly; 12/3/2003; Moore, Peter Search for more information on HighBeam Research for silverstein 125 million. Larry Silverstein reportedly will be reimbursed much of his reserve funds he invested six weeks before terrorist slammed jets into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center. The New York Times reported Nov. 22 that Silverstein and his co-investors would receive $98 million, about 80 percent of the $125 million they invested in equity in 2001. The 99-year lease with the Port Authority was valued at $3.2 billion. The investors along with the Port Authority, who owned the buildings, are using insurance proceeds to pay off GMAC Commercial Mortgage Corporation, Silverstein's lender, a reported sum of $563 million. Silverstein and his partners will retain their 99-year lease and play a large part in the redesigning of the area. A new collaborative design for the Freedom Tower, the brainchild of architects David Childs and Daniel Libeskind, is scheduled for release next month. Howard Rubenstein, a spokesman for Silverstein, released a statement the day the Times article appeared, saying that Silverstein was rightfully entitled to the funds he used as collateral for a loan to make a down payment on his lease. "The GMAC reserves that are being returned to his companies were established to secure the GMAC mortgage loan," Rubenstein said. "Now that the mortgage loan has been satisfied, there is no reason for the security for that loan to remain tied up in escrow accounts earning minimal interest." According to Rubenstein, the days of Silverstein seeing a return on his Ground Zero investment are a long time in the future. "When it comes time to refinance the project, Mr. Silverstein's companies likely will have to put up the same or more amounts of security for those new loans," Rubenstein said. "In the interim, as part of his agreement with the Port Authority, Mr. Silverstein is committing 100 percent of all future business interruption proceeds to the project. As a result of this commitment, Mr. Silverstein and his investors likely will not see any return for a decade." Following the Times article, a state judge issued a gag order on all participants in the anticipated deal. PA spokesman Greg Trevor declined to comment, citing the gag order. Silverstein has been deadlocked in a battle with the trade center insurers since the attacks. The leaseholder claims the two planes striking the towers constituted two separate disasters and should result accordingly in a $7 billion insurance payout. The insurers claim the strikes were one disaster and are offering $3.5 million. The insurers have paid out about $1.9 billion to date. The Times also reported the Port Authority has reached an agreement to buy out Westfield America, which operated the retail mall at the trade center, for $140 million.
Mark If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower
His own equity already insured by private investors. And he is not worthy of 80% about the capital loss? WOW. Where do you realize the difference between reality and fantasy; but then again, you may not be able to differentiate between the two.
Needless to say, it is well known that National Review is a CIA sockpuppet.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
This money represents his downpayment on the lease. Why should a nickle have been returned?
You just love that retirement entitlement that you earned performing nothing more than a desk cop fielding questions from the public supporting the government edict as professional servant. You are a god damned Fabian socialist. I laff at you, clown.
It is interesting to see how the propagandist works. Here the 911 truth people raise a valid point. Instead of answering it however, the writer spews an unsupported crackpot theory that unknown and unspecified impurities somehow contaminated the aluminum and gave it the black body signature of melted steel. Would that he take the next step and explain the details of this miraculous transformation. This alone shows you that the writer isn't looking for the truth. He's tossing out any bullshit he needs to toss out to protect Bush and get the next war going.
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But the Republican culture of corruption and self serving dishonesty bears the brunt of responsibility. Their patttern and practice of poorly concealed deception and DeLay/Abramoff/Ney style criminal self service makes it easy for people to believe that the Republicans would pull off something like the 911 attacks. People look at past Republican conduct and ask themselve if planning the 011 attacks seems like something the Republicans would do. And it does. After watching the scum in action for the past six years, killing three thousand Americans to further their selfish political goals seems to be perfectly in character for the Republican party. I think this shows how grossly the Republicans have failed in their leadership of this country. I've actually seen polls where 42 percent of the population believes Bush at least stood by and allowed the attacks to happen. Almost half the country finds it easy to believe that Bush would murder 3000 citizens for his own selfish, self serving reasons. From this you may conclude that Bush, and the Republican parth that Bush represents, have almost zero credibility and have utterly and miserably failed leaders. They are simply liabilities now.
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Wow! It must be so tremendously self-aggrandizing to be such a useful psy-op tool.
There is one thing more than anything else that convinces me that the 911 Truth People might be on to something: that is the way the goober fooler press prods you guys to flail around and spew your hate on this subject. The people who provide your ideas for you need to fool you about so many subjects - some goobs are realizing there were no WMD in Iraq, other goobs are questioning the Saddam/Al Quada connection, even more goobs now doubt that Saddam was flying one of the planes on 911 - but the goob foolers waste precious bandwidth hyping you up over the 911 Truth Movement. This makes me ask what the people who think for you guys don't want me to see.
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That is the icing on this and several other cakes.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Arator, It looks like Liberty Forum is down big time. Do you know anything about it?
They did? When?
Where is my pal, JT? Are you writing a thesis about how great you are because you rubber-stamped US government policies? Such a nice professional American, you are .
hey hey :P
lol
911: Press for Truth<----here ya go, conspiracy nut. Government sponsored terrorism<----history lesson
This is weird. Been longer without it than with it. lol!
Can you believe the horsepucky this guy posts here?
Look at the article I just posted from LP. This guy is similar, he operates in an alternate reality supported by an improbably system of interlocking conspiracies. We don't see the truth because the MSM conspires with the Islamofascists to fool us. The Republicans on the Senate Intelligence committe conspired with liberals to make Bush look bad wrt the Saddam/AQ fable. Liberals are conspiring with terrorists and communists to destroy America. People who don't support Bush want the troops killed and are conspiring with the enemy to accomplish this. Arabs hate us for our freedom and because the Madrassa consprire to turn them against us - and not because we bomb them and support Israel. Etc. Every fact has to be deflected with a dark conspiracy or his entire belief structure falls. These gays do this enough and they literally lose their grip on reality - like the guy on the thread I posted. The denial eventually degerates into paranoia and mental illness. I notice that it has gotten so bad that Rush now has to tell his audience not to look at other sources of information. The spin has diverged so much from reality that Rush can no longer reconcile his spin with reality. He just has to keep the goobs away from reality.
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"When Judah saw Tamar (her daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, ….She said, ‘what will you give me to have sex?’….He answered, ‘I will send you a young goat from my flock.’…..He gave them to her. Then had sex, and she became pregnant. Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who became the forefathers of Jews," – Jewish Bible - Genesis 38:15-18
I live by a simple code. One can never retire too often or too early. :)
Yep.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
Is the Asshat Goldi-Lox's husband? That would explain a lot.
How much money are you going to shove in Goldi's pocket this week? Nice work keeping that Israel-First forum breathing.
I'm thinking Asshat started his Sunday binge a day early.
But who wears the pants?
Freudian slip? (snicker)
Who gets to be on top?
an obvious paid JEW on the NR staff spewing his propaganda bullshit.
We cannot allow the truth of what happened on 9/11 to be clouded by the conspiracy nuts. America cannot afford to lose the will to fight this war.
#2. To: lodwick (#1)
#3. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
Five years after 9/11, the truth about what happened that day is more thoroughly documented and widely available than ever. And yet the crackpot conspiracy theories alleging that the Bush administration orchestrated the attacks or allowed them to happen have become more deeply entrenched and broadly accepted than at any time since that terrible day.
Silverstein to be reimbursed $98M of WTC investment.(Larry Silverstein )
#4. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
National Review is a Nazis fascist rag.
#5. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
#7. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
#8. To: buckeroo (#6)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#10. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
The theorists scream that melted aluminum is white, and the metal in question is clearly yellow, case closed. In its pure state, melted aluminum is white, but of course, it wasn’t pure when coming out of the towers. It was mixed with all the other burned debris, which changed its color.
#11. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
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The Internet bears some responsibility, of course.
#12. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
As a result, five years after nearly 3,000 innocent people were slaughtered by radical Islamic terrorists, and just as the War on Terror enters an important new phase in which President Bush has vowed to take on both al Qaeda and its allies, and Iran and its puppets, a third of the American people reportedly think the enemy is not the jihadists, who are trying to destroy us, but our own government, which is trying to defend us against the real threat.
Where do I sign up?
#13. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
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#15. To: Arator (#7)
#16. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
Popular Mechanics did an excellent job refuting the conspiracy theorists, as has the NIST.
#17. To: Jethro Tull (#8)
#18. To: hammerdown (#12)
#19. To: lodwick (#1)
Good to have the input of a blind, blue-pill, bot.
#20. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
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#22. To: angle (#16)
#23. To: Nostalgia (#22)
Can you believe the horsepucky this guy posts here?
#24. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
#25. To: buckeroo (#9)
You just love that retirement entitlement that you earned performing nothing more than a desk cop
#26. To: robin, ... (#14)
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That is the icing on this and several other cakes.
#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
#28. To: buckeroo (#17)
Where is my pal, JT? Are you writing a thesis about how great you are because you rubber-stamped US government policies?
#29. To: Minerva (#27)
#30. To: Minerva (#27)
"Is the Asshat Goldi-Lox's husband? That would explain a lot."
#31. To: ... (#23)
These gays do this enough and they literally lose their grip on reality
#32. To: Ferret Mike (#30)
But who wears the pants?
#33. To: It Is A Republic, robin (#0)
Andrew Cline
***LEAP***
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford
#34. To: Jethro Tull (#28)
I shall give my money to anyone I want without your interference, thank you. BTW, how is all that SPAM, still eating it 'eh?
#35. To: Jethro Tull (#25)
Explain your health problems as you play upon the Internet all day. Oh sure, you are God's gift to humanity as you squirt off a few rhetorical posts towards me. Yet, whom is paying your medical costs keeping you alive from your listless lifestyle? Oh, you are a great party member, comrade.
I live by a simple code.
#36. To: buckeroo (#34)
I suggest shock treatments for those mood swings, also medication can help to organize your thoughts.
I shall give my money to anyone I want without your interference, thank you.
#37. To: buckeroo, Minerva (#35)
Explain your health problems as you play upon the Internet all day.
Chronic piles. Oh sure, you are God's gift to humanity as you
squirt off a few rhetorical posts towards me. I find your choice of the
word squirt odd. MINERVA!!! Your input is needed. Yet, whom is
paying your medical costs keeping you alive from your listless lifestyle?
Whom? You and your fellow tax paying sheeple. Thanks. Oh, you are
a great party member, comrade. Thank-you.
#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
Why not answer my questions, directly? Is it because you are attempting to deflect your own epitaph which is a lie?
#39. To: buckeroo (#38)
And which question is that?
#40. To: Jethro Tull (#37)
Looks to me, that you are acting defensive about yourself. Why is that, JT? Are you also pissing on yourself as you attempt to defend yourself while knowing you can not? What happened to you JT? Are you just a minor player not capable of addressing anything more than your own silly web-chat and then when confronting me, tremble upon your own knees, in public? 'Eh piss_boy?
#41. To: buckeroo (#40) (Edited)
Bucky...I've seen a pic of you. There is no question in my mind that I could one-punch you into complete submission. Now, you know who I am, where I live and if you have the balls, you'll agree to meet me. I'd love the opportunity to explain to you in person my income stream, my past career(s) and my future. Whatta ya' say, you Zionist supporting, Jew enabling POS?
Are you just a minor player not capable of addressing anything more than your own silly web-chat and then when confronting me, tremble upon your own knees, in public?
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#41)
So fucking what. Hey dickless wonder ex-cop, even you had the capability to beat my ass behind my back, I have the capability to rape you in public as I am right now in public. Can you stop me? No. Why is that? Because you are attracted to me you liar. You can't get off your knees to see the world around yourself. So lets explore your wealth right now. Lets see you play, player.
Bucky...I've seen a pic of you.
There is no question in my mind that I could one-punch you into complete submission.
I'd love the opportunity to explain to you in person my income stream, my past careers(s) and my future.
#43. To: buckeroo, Minerva, an Ebonics translator (#42)
Translation please. Anyone?
Hey dickless wonder ex-cop, even you had the capability to beat my ass behind my back, I have the capability to rape you in public as I am right now in public.
#44. To: buckeroo (#42)
Bucky. Have you ever noticed that it's YOU who engages ME. Always. Why is that?
Can you stop me? No. Why is that? Because you are attracted to me you liar.
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#44)
I despise government worker bees that say they believe in America.
#46. To: buckeroo (#34)
Are you and Goldi doing it?
#47. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
Be careful. Don't bend over to pick up coins you find on the ground. The Asshat could have left them there as bait.
I have the capability to rape you in public .....
#48. To: Minerva (#47)
He said squirt.
#49. To: buckeroo, Jethro Tull (#42)
25 paces, Gentlemen?
#50. To: Jethro Tull (#48) (Edited)
Funny uncle types use that word.
He said squirt.
#51. To: hammerdown (#49) (Edited)
Thanks hammer, but asshat can't shoot worth a damn. He does need killing tho.
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#43) (Edited)
Anyone? Alkeehol keeelz. rofl!
Translation please.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#48)
Does he wear cowboy hats or any of that other Brokeback stuff?
He said squirt.
#54. To: jessejane (#52)
hehehehehe
#55. To: Minerva (#53)
those leather chaps
#56. To: hammerdown (#49)
Three paces should do nicely.
#57. To: Jethro Tull (#44)
Incredible. You actually have afforded a faux persona to help you. yet, you don't answer my questions. Why don't you want want to play with me? Is your argument all about the fact you can stroke yourself?
#58. To: Jethro Tull (#51)
hahahaha. he wouldn't be buck if he wasn't a pain in the ass.
#59. To: hammerdown (#49)
It is my intention to kill Jethro Tull this evening. He needs a gravestone. And I am going to give it to him.
#60. To: lodwick (#56)
I see. Why waste all that time, No Drama.
#61. To: Jethro Tull (#55)
Like this?????? those leather chaps
#62. To: buckeroo (#59)
right through the internets?
And I am going to give it to him.
#63. To: buckeroo (#59)
Why do you come over here and start fights?
It is my intention to kill Jethro Tull this evening. He needs a gravestone. And I am going to give it to him.
#64. To: ALL, It Is A Repederast (#0)
The Internet is a brilliant vehicle for the dissemination of half-truths — or what only have the appearance of half-truths. The Internet bears some responsibility, of course. Ahhhh yes, another story blaming all the country's problems on the eeeevil internet. Gotta keep pushing that idea. Methinks this next make-believe election is going to be such a joke, J-O-A-K joke, that someone needs to get the flow of information restricted to only government approved sources to prevent a civil war. Betcha the next "terrorist event" is going to deeply involve the internet somehow, causing it to be severely restricted. Any takers on that bet?
the Internet, hack academics, and a passive media, they have succeeded in planting a grain of doubt in the minds of a substantial number of Americans.
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint
#65. To: buckeroo (#57)
Your overt sexual overtures disgust me.
Why don't you want want to play with me?
#66. To: Minerva (#61)
Yes, that's what he wears.
#67. To: hammerdown (#62)
Right through JT's own staggering concepts of fucking around with me. JT is nothing more than another government grubber begging for more taxation to support his believe as an armed guard for the desperate political parties. He is a cameleon; another POS, unworthy of personal freedoms and consideration about our US Constitution as he enacts the LAW based upon buying into government retirement programs.
#68. To: buckeroo (#67)
This from a man who contributes to the Jewess and her war agenda?
#69. To: Esso (#64)
i'll take your bet, btw. :P
It Is A Repederast
#70. To: Esso (#64)
I agree. Without the internet Bush would be king right now.
Betcha the next "terrorist event" is going to deeply involve the internet somehow, causing it to be severely restricted. Any takers on that bet?
#71. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
Playing a pink panty waist asshole as you are performing .... I could careless about sex. But I see you attempting all kinds of methods to play with me. Yet, you are a retired bum-fuck cop from NYC. And you think that you can play all day long because you are entitled somehow. How do you have an awkward mind and and moreover how do you look yourself in the face while fucking America because you ate donuts for saving America.
Your overt sexual overtures disgust me.
#72. To: buckeroo (#71)
Have you ever considered switching to pot?
Yet, you are a retired bum-fuck cop from NYC. And you think that you can play all day long because you are entitled somehow. How do you have an awkward mind and and moreover how do you look yourself in the face while fucking America because you ate donuts for saving America.
#73. To: buckeroo (#71)
Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
How do you have an awkward mind and and moreover how do you look yourself in the face while fucking America because you ate donuts for saving America.
#74. To: Minerva (#72)
As opposed to sucking your lapdog ... just backoff. JT is constructing some sort of "liberty" expression while saying he believes in government grants. Don't worry about it; I don't.
#75. To: Jethro Tull (#73)
So you deny my charge?
#76. To: Minerva (#61)
I may not sleep well after this horror. Please, NO MORE. Thanks. Oh dear, download them to the privacy of your own computer and view them at your leisure. Thanks, again.
Shit.
#77. To: buckeroo (#75)
Be careful not to blow an aorta.
#78. To: Esso, It Is A People's Republic (#64)
If you think for yourself, the terrorists win! Dubya and bots scream and fret about the web in the same fashion that Stalin and Hitler wrung their hands over the idea that their people might be listening to "foreign broadcasts." "Is your traitor of a neighbor listening or reading non-government apporoved press reports? Turn the S.O.B in for big cash rewards!"
Ahhhh yes, another story blaming all the country's problems on the eeeevil internet. Gotta keep pushing that idea.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
#79. To: Jethro Tull (#73)
I am going to help you tonite. You are in good luck. I am think you need my comments and ideas based upon serious ideals. I know it is too easy for ex-cops that had a desk job to confront me, such as you. Its OK, too. Sitting there for 20 years as a government servant doing your job kinda gets "old" .... doesn't it?
Bahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.........
#80. To: buckeroo (#79)
That is fine, just as long as you don't start singing or throw up in the sink.
I am going to help you tonite.
#81. To: Minerva (#80)
Where is Jethro? Did he die? He is my friend from over 7 years upon the Internet. And he won't answer me right now.
#82. To: buckeroo (#81)
He told me to watch you while he went to the store.
#83. To: buckeroo (#81)
His is using the money he got from you to buy expensive booze and cigars.
#84. To: buckeroo (#81)
Me do 20 years (g). Nope. How much did you give the Jew this week?
#85. To: Minerva (#80)
Is JT just a troll as I have always known him to be even before the year 2000? Well, of course. He is a god damned liar.
#86. To: buckeroo, Jethro Tull (#81)
Are you still all pissy about Tull busting you in Times Square for trying to peddle your meat to that rough trade crowd during fleet week?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#87. To: buckeroo (#85)
He thinks it's funny that you have to pay for his loafing around all day.
Is JT just a troll as I have always known him to be even before the year 2000? Well, of course. He is a god damned liar.
#88. To: Jethro Tull (#84)
Why do you care about Jews, when your own government is crumbling around you? Are you safe because of your government "fund."
How much did you give the Jew this week?
#89. To: Dakmar (#86)
Dakmar, if I needed a Texan queer mother-fucker sucker, I would ask for it. Souwwie!
#90. To: buckeroo (#88)
I bet Goldi makes you sleep on the wet spot. That is why you are so hostile.
#91. To: buckeroo (#67)
as opposed to what, being a Centurion for the putrid empire of the Grotesquely Obese Pigs? unworthy of what, buck? are you under the erroneous presumption that the constitution grants you something? A persons views change, buck, when they read and learn and grow out of the constraints that megalomaniacal political parties like to use to retain power over a persons most base instincts. I didn't know JT was in congress, I thought he was a retired NYC cop.
begging for more taxation to support his believe as an armed guard for the desperate political parties.
He is a cameleon; another POS, unworthy of personal freedoms and consideration about our US Constitution
as he enacts the LAW based upon buying into government retirement programs.
#92. To: buckeroo (#88)
Because Jews have been the overewhelmig drivers behind every new movement destroying western civilization. International Jews, that is. I know some perfectly lovely local Jews.
Why do you care about Jews, when your own government is crumbling around you?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#93. To: Dakmar (#86)
lmfao!
#94. To: buckeroo (#89)
Texan? You are really drunk, buck.
Dakmar, if I needed a Texan queer mother-fucker sucker, I would ask for it. Souwwie!
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#95. To: buckeroo (#89)
Would he not then be a father-fucker Buck? Keep it congruent.
"...queer mother-fucker..."
#96. To: Minerva (#87)
How do you know what he thinks? Are you an alter ego program? Lets get your complaint about me out in the fucking OPEN, JT .. no more fucking around.
#97. To: buckeroo (#96) (Edited)
I can read people's thoughts. Think of a number between 1 and 10 and I will prove it.
How do you know what he thinks?
#98. To: Dakmar (#94)
Some people spin the bottle to get a little loving to the shy, others let the bottle spin them until they acquire a form that is all but impossible to love and would be better off passing out and stifling themselves from further rhetorical dances with the lampshade on their head.
"Texan? You are really drunk, buck."
#99. To: hammerdown (#91)
Who said that? JT believes as a retired cop, he deserves cum stains from the public.
are you under the erroneous presumption that the constitution grants you something?
#100. To: buckeroo (#96)
If you can read this Buck, you're drunk. Go to bed.
#101. To: Ferret Mike (#98)
But I've learned more with a lampshade on my head than at any other time. I should probably disclose that I come from a wealthy lampshade manufacturing family at some time, but not now.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#102. To: buckeroo (#96)
Does that mean that I have to close out my close-to-300 screen names/accounts at your girlfriend's website, ElPee?
no more fucking around.
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint
#103. To: buckeroo (#99)
JT will be back in a minute and he will harass you in person. Be patient.
#104. To: Ferret Mike (#100)
A long time ago, I used to enjoy your posts. You offered an opinion that gave me an opinion that suggested that there were real Americans. Now, you want to harbor upon this thread. Don't fuck with me, pal.
#105. To: buckeroo, Minerva (#99)
i believe you did, but that may need another translation.
unworthy of personal freedoms and consideration about our US Constitution
#106. To: buckeroo (#99) (Edited)
While you are waiting for JT you could go over to Stone's place and kook around with Contenental Op. You would like him, he's a lot like you.
#107. To: Esso (#102)
Were you cheebagirl?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#108. To: Minerva (#103)
He is taking a JT? He has always performed that effort even from before 2000 ... something about Y2K phenomena.
JT will be back in a minute and he will harass you in person. Be patient.
#109. To: Dakmar (#101)
And I have learned from quiet wearers of the lampshade. This does not merely include drunks mind you. many make the mistake in this assumption. A bi-polar person off their meds and full blown manic is a three ring circus to watch. Never let it be said I don't appreciate eccentricities in people. After all, I do live in Eugene, Oregon, a town where the most common middle name people have is 'iconoclast.'
"But I've learned more with a lampshade on my head than at any other time."
#110. To: Minerva (#106)
Why should I care about other websites? I have my own to consider.
#111. To: buckeroo (#108)
He is not going to come and harass you on a whim. He wants you to beg for it.
He is taking a JT? He has always performed that effort even from before 2000 ... something about Y2K phenomena.
#112. To: Dakmar (#107)
Why yes, yes I was!
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint
#113. To: all (#110)
Intermission
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#114. To: buckeroo (#104) (Edited)
If I didn't like you Buck, I'd glad handle the crap out of you. I am entitled to my opinion, and never let the other person not liking it get in the way of offering it. I grew up listening to this shit, and I can take any resentment you throw at me; because I have been there, done that. If you don't believe me, try me.
"Don't fuck with me, pal."
#115. To: buckeroo (#110)
No one knows why, Buck, but you do seem to care about other websites by dint of your constant posting activity.
Why should I care about other websites? I have my own to consider.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#116. To: buckeroo (#110)
Can we join? What is the URL?
Why should I care about other websites? I have my own to consider.
#117. To: Minerva (#111)
And here I beat that bastard down, tonite. And he wants me to beat him down some more? Is JT a fucking bullshiter?
He is not going to come and harass you on a whim. He wants you to beg for it.
#118. To: buckeroo (#117)
I am going to get you warmed up and then he is going to come back on and tease you into a frenzy. It's all planned out.
#119. To: buckeroo (#117)
What is the name of your website?
#120. To: Minerva, Buckyboo (#119)
What is your website, Bucky?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#121. To: Minerva (#119)
I don't have a web site. I own IRC networks all over the world.
#122. To: buckeroo (#121)
So how do we get on to troll them?
I don't have a web site. I own IRC networks all over the world.
#123. To: buckeroo (#121)
You are invited to join this website. http://bitingbeaver.blogspot.com/ Since you are a guy however, email the owner and give these passwords - Klaatu barada nikto. They will know I sent you and show you how to get onto the forum.
#124. To: Minerva (#122)
You have performed your perspective playing mind fucking games. Are you saying that JT is a fucking liability to you?
#125. To: Minerva (#122)
I think the first step involves acquiring a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 1 or maybe a Sinclair ZX-80.
So how do we get on to troll them?
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint
#126. To: buckeroo (#124)
No, he mostly sponges off guys like you. I don't pay much income tax.
Are you saying that JT is a fucking liability to you?
#127. To: Esso (#125)
NO! Not yet anyway :) Get enough bees and you canhoney-coat a freakin sattelite, or a cuda if youre on a budget.
I think the first step involves acquiring a Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 1 or maybe a Sinclair ZX-80.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#128. To: Minerva, Jethro Tull (#126)
But JT is a federal retiree. What are you saying? Aren't you giving to this fine upstanding American that maintained a government desk job eating donuts and sucking free coffee?
I don't pay much income tax.
#129. To: Minerva (#126)
there is a picture of stone jumping on a trampoline naked up on the other site. look at it and see if it is photshoped. i don't know enough to tell.
#130. To: buckeroo (#128)
Why should I? You have it handled and he is doing fine.
Aren't you giving to this fine upstanding American that maintained a government desk job eating donuts and sucking free coffee?
#131. To: buckeroo (#128)
Can't stop lying? I thought he was municipal retiree?
But JT is a federal retiree
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#132. To: Morgana le Fay (#129)
I'll go look now.
there is a picture of stone jumping on a trampoline naked up on the other site. look at it and see if it is photshoped. i don't know enough to tell.
#133. To: Dakmar (#131)
He is a god damned ex-government employee. he is a sucker upon the back of all americans.
#134. To: Minerva (#130)
Because you are a liar. You don't care about America other than what you or JT can bilk out of the government.
Why should I?
#135. To: buckeroo (#133)
Try offering you suffering up for the poor souls in purgatory. This will make you a better person.
He is a god damned ex-government employee. he is a sucker upon the back of all americans.
#136. To: buckeroo (#133)
You wouldn't say that if he was US Navy, would you?
He is a god damned ex-government employee. he is a sucker upon the back of all americans.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#137. To: It Is A Republic, Esso, ALL (#0)
Why???? Well, how about for starters 7 wasn't hit by an aircraft... How about for the middle a total absence of NORAD intervention for 1½ hours. And how about for finishers buildings 3,4,5, and 6 which ALL sustained SEVERE damage compared to 1,2, or 7 yet did NOT collapse.... See: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=34925&Disp=21#C21
the towers collapsed as a result of the aircraft collisions and fires. Every major investigation, from the 9/11 Commission to a panel of experts assembled by Popular Mechanics magazine to the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST), has come to the same conclusion. And yet more and more people continue to believe the handful of conspiracy nuts. Why?
"Give me liberty, or give me death!" - Patrick Henry
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the vote" - Ben Franklin
#138. To: buckeroo (#134)
We're not bilking the government, we are bilking people like you. And because you are such a nut sack we don't feel guilty about it.
You don't care about America other than what you or JT can bilk out of the government.
#139. To: buckeroo (#133)
I went to public school where I learned you are completely fucking insane, buddy. Want to buy a Mercury?
He is a god damned ex-government employee. he is a sucker upon the back of all americans.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#140. To: Minerva (#135)
You really have no comment other than sticking up for a government worker as Jethro Tull. He is a liar other than getting a free government grant to save his fucking ass. Go suck him, bitch.
#141. To: Minerva (#138)
LOL, where's that picture of June Cleaver?
We're not bilking the government, we are bilking people like you.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#142. To: Dakmar (#141)
Why aren't your lips locked on JT's asshole, tonite? Are you finally giving up queers?
#143. To: buckeroo (#140)
JT gets retirement. I get the grants.
He is a liar other than getting a free government grant to save his fucking ass.
#144. To: buckeroo (#142)
do you ever read the garbage you've posted once you sober up?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#145. To: Dakmar (#136)
There seems to be a distinct nautical theme to your posting tonight. I think you're going to need a bigger boat, Cap'n Dak.
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint
#146. To: Minerva (#143)
No you don't. You get the butt of my coming gun.
JT gets retirement. I get the grants.
#147. To: buckeroo (#140)
I am an artist. Private people can't afford to finance my projects so I get grants to do them. JT just gets retirement from the State of NY.
#148. To: Esso (#145)
http://www.freewebs.com/shadow)(world/Quotes-%20Jays%20Rap.mp3
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#149. To: buckeroo (#146)
Yes I do. And you contributed a big chunk. So I guess it is only proper I say thanks.
No you don't.
#150. To: Minerva (#143)
I get paid in them counterfeit North Korean 'supernotes'.
JT gets retirement. I get the grants.
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint
#151. To: Minerva (#147)
Living and breathing because you can suck the People. Do you ever get a whiff of the foul odor you offer? I see it all the time. The stench you reek is awesome.
#152. To: buckeroo (#146)
You really should switch to pot smoking. With a little practice this could be you.
You get the butt of my coming gun.
#153. To: buckeroo (#146)
Anything else you'd like to share with us?
You get the butt of my coming gun.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#154. To: buckeroo (#151) (Edited)
Well I appreciate you being there. Without people like you we would have to get jobs.
Living and breathing because you can suck the People. Do you ever get a whiff of the foul odor you offer? I see it all the time. The stench you reek is awesome.
#155. To: Minerva (#152)
I loath government retirees and their minions that drive American politics. I can do anything I want BTW, bitch; to include smoking marijuana ... Are you jealous?
#156. To: Minerva (#154)
Whom made you a gete keeper?
Without people like you we would have to get jobs.
#157. To: buckeroo (#155)
Yes I am, and I've been looking around for a place to take buckeroo lessons.
Are you jealous?
#158. To: buckeroo (#156)
A group of weird guys in long robes and lodge hats.
Whom made you a gete keeper?
#159. To: buckeroo (#155)
ooh, did the nurses let you have a little 3.2 beer, too?
I can do anything I want BTW, bitch; to include smoking marijuana ... Are you jealous?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#160. To: Minerva (#158)
How? Because you have your long nose up JT's asshole?
#161. To: buckeroo (#160)
Did you have this anal obsession before you hit puberty? Or did it first come on during high school gym class?
Because you have your long nose up JT's asshole?
#162. To: Minerva (#161)
I notice you follow JT everywhere. And you think, you are clever.
#163. To: buckeroo (#160)
You can speak freely here. I'll keep everything in strictest confidence.
#164. To: buckeroo (#162)
Actually I don't. I'm taking funny lessons and harassing you is a class project.
And you think, you are clever.
#165. To: buckeroo (#160)
C'mon, Bucky, lighten up a little would ya.
#166. To: buckeroo (#162)
Why don't you put a picture of yourself in apeedo up on your home page.
#167. To: Minerva (#164)
I see .. and JT is GOD's gift to humanity because he can't make a buck other than his love for government pension plans? What other god damned BS do you have for me, this evening?
#168. To: Fred Mertz (#165)
BACK OFF
#169. To: buckeroo (#167) (Edited)
First put up the picture of yourself in the speedo and then I will tell you.
What other god damned BS do you have for me, this evening?
#170. To: buckeroo (#168)
Have fun.
Okay, jack.
#171. To: buckeroo (#168)
Did you swap keyboards? How did your type suddenly get so big?
#172. To: Minerva (#152)
Is that Jack Casady, greatest rock bassist of all time? (Did I tell you I'm a fan of the "San Francisco Sound"? Or that Casady's a fan of cannabis? ;)) Back to the topic at hand, why don't you just chant a spell and turn fuckeroo into a toad? (Hasn't it worked with Stone? :P) Or is it that he's more fun to repartee with when he's being a prick?
#173. To: Minerva (#166)
Why should I? What can my personal information do for you? Are you going to beat off with a dildo all nite long?
Why don't you put a picture of yourself in apeedo up on your home page.
#174. To: Minerva (#171)
I have a big_dick. Are you worried?
How did your type suddenly get so big?
#175. To: buckeroo (#173)
No, we want to photoshop it into a picture of you jumping on a trampoline naked and post it on our other site. Why do you ask?
Why should I? What can my personal information do for you? Are you going to beat off with a dildo all nite long?
#176. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#172)
I never heard of the guy.
s that Jack Casady,
#177. To: buckeroo (#174)
No. But why don't you post a picture of yourself naked on your home page then. We wouldn't have to mess with photoshop that way. And if you have one of you jumping on a trampoline that would be even more helpful.
have a big_dick. Are you worried?
#178. To: Minerva (#175)
I see.
... post it on our other site.
#179. To: Minerva (#176)
I never heard of the guy. Never heard of the Jefferson Airplane???
that Jack Casady,
#180. To: buckeroo (#178)
Christine won't let us post them here.
#181. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#179)
Is that a band?
Never heard of the Jefferson Airplane???
#182. To: Minerva (#181)
Is that a band? OK, I get it---you're a lot younger than me.... You don't have to rub it in---except with hot oil.
Never heard of the Jefferson Airplane???
#183. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, Minerva (#179)
Jack Cassady
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#184. To: buckeroo (#178)
why are you attacking Minerva? she hasn't done anything to you.
#185. To: Minerva (#180)
Whats the URL? Christie shall alow me to do anything I want. Show me your pics, baby ... because if you don't I am going to creame you.
Christine won't let us post them here.
#186. To: Dakmar (#183)
Looks like the unsavory type to me.
#187. To: Morgana le Fay (#184)
Shaddup bitch. And before poking your nose in these threads..... read 'em.
#188. To: buckeroo (#185)
There is nothing to show until you give us one to work on.
#189. To: buckeroo (#187)
ooooooooo. someone needs a nap.
Shaddup bitch. And before poking your nose in these threads..... read 'em.
#190. To: Minerva (#186)
http://www.casadybass.com/ I've no problem with Jack :)
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#191. To: buckeroo (#185)
your home page is still blank. do you have any shots of you jumping on a trampoline?
#192. To: Minerva (#188)
Don't you just love JT? He is a cutie doll, ain't he?
There is nothing to show until you give us one to work on.
#193. To: all (#191)
Intermission
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#194. To: Morgana le Fay (#191)
I have more than that. I fucked you. Welcome to the Internet.
#195. To: buckeroo (#192)
If you don't put a picture up we will think you are a wussie.
#196. To: buckeroo (#192)
wuss!
#197. To: Morgana le Fay (#184)
Something furry and segmented and with pincer mandibles that enabled it to lock onto his colon membranes crawled up his ass tonight and died. Not even that foul a creature can live inside fuckeroo.
why are you attacking Minerva? she hasn't done anything to you.
#198. To: buckeroo (#194)
There goes your teaching license.
I have more than that. I fucked you.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#199. To: buckeroo (#194)
guy talk gets so tedious sometimes.
I have more than that. I fucked you. Welcome to the Internet.
#200. To: Dakmar (#198)
I love my doctoral thesis testament .. there is just a bunch of assholes sitting around waiting for me to beat the shit out of them .. hey its just a thesis!
#201. To: buckeroo (#200)
Take a deep breath and remind yourself that it's just the web.
#202. To: buckeroo (#200)
Bring it on, Abdul!
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#203. To: buckeroo (#200)
do you get your blood pressure checked regularly?
#204. To: Morgana le Fay (#199)
These macho boys have crossed way beyond repetative.
guy talk gets so tedious sometimes.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#205. To: Dakmar (#204)
ask buckeroo if he can see veins throbbing in his forehead. he won't talk to me.
#206. To: Morgana le Fay (#203)
I'm guessing aside from incidental and/or ad-hoc prostate exams prolly three to ten time a week for Bucky.
do you get your blood pressure checked regularly?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#207. To: buckeroo (#200)
can you see the veins throbbing in your forhead? are you still a NYC whore?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#208. To: Dakmar (#207)
Contained within my thesis is a passage about you, Dakmar. You don't mind, do you?
#209. To: Dakmar (#207)
buckeroo left and didn't even say goodbye. that was sort of rude.
#210. To: Dakmar (#207)
io was wrong. he's still here.
#211. To: buckeroo (#208)
Common decency suggests you should post it here first for review.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#212. To: Morgana le Fay (#210)
He seems to be on a mission, let's find out more shall we?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#213. To: buckeroo (#208)
be sure to say goodbye when you leave this evening. you seem to have a predispostion towards rude behavior.
#214. To: Dakmar (#207)
Dakmar: I have a throbbing hard dick and want a woman to help me just like Jethro Tull. Thats why I am on the Internet everday of my life, to get a cheap stroke.
#215. To: buckeroo (#214)
Admitting you have a problem is the first step to getting better.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#216. To: Morgana le Fay (#213)
Morgana. I love you.
#217. To: buckeroo (#216)
that is a natural response.
#218. To: Dakmar (#215)
But what about your nose up GWBush's asshole ther in Texas? No comment? Why is that?
#219. To: buckeroo (#218)
Why are you picking on Dakmar? He hasn't done anything to you.
#220. To: buckeroo (#218)
Once again, do you ever read the crap you've posted once you sober up?
But what about your nose up GWBush's asshole ther in Texas? No comment? Why is that?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#221. To: buckeroo (#218)
JT says you are hispanic and recently came from mexico. how long have you been in the US? your english is very good.
#222. To: Morgana le Fay (#217)
Just wait until the powers of 4um realize I pulled your chains, this evening. And don't think I am the bad guy .. far from it. I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn.
#223. To: buckeroo (#222)
Liberace was very gay.
I am the bad guy .. far from it. I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn.
#224. To: Morgana le Fay (#221)
buckeroo posted on 2003-02-21 15:07:13 ET Reply Trace You realize I am a black woman, don't you? I am just a whore upon the streets begging for more government welfare in NYC. I have my hand out. Can you contribute?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#225. To: buckeroo (#222)
Can I quote you on that?
I am just the Liberace of the Internet and no one gives a damn.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#226. To: Minerva (#219)
You don't know his history as I do. He is nothing more than an undergraduate starling at Texas A&M. More than that, I am his professor. But don't worry, he isn't going to graduate.
Why are you picking on Dakmar? He hasn't done anything to you.
#227. To: buckeroo (#222)
I am just the Liberace of the Internet That explains the chaps.
#228. To: Dakmar (#225)
New tag line? Cool!
#229. To: buckeroo (#226)
Texas? Again? What is it with you? I've never set foot in Texas in my life.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#230. To: Minerva (#227)
i thought buck was golid lox's sweetie.
#231. To: Dakmar (#229)
Liar.
#232. To: buckeroo (#231)
play nice now.
Liar.
#233. To: Morgana le Fay (#232)
Often, when confronted by total idiots such as yourself, I get to lite up a smoke after some sex. What happened to you and me? I didn't mean to rape you this evening .. I am a nice guy.
#234. To: buckeroo (#233)
the virus problem is back. if you see a folder on your C drive called "WINNT" delete it immediately. i'm not kidding here.
#235. To: Morgana le Fay (#234)
what about root/buckeroo/inet/freedom4um/Morgana le Fay .. should I delete that path, too?
#236. To: buckeroo (#231)
Liar? Seriously Buck, put down the crack pipe. When was I ever in Texas, ociffer?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#237. To: buckeroo (#235)
why?
#238. To: buckeroo (#235)
luberator is giving you crap over on LP 26. To: buckeroo, aka f_u_c_k_e_r_o_o, yukon (#22) F_u_c_k you, you god damned liar. Hey yuk -- guess what? Gutter-Rat's got a new name! liberator posted on 2006-09-17 00:50:52 ET Reply Trace
#239. To: buckeroo (#235)
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=159010&Disp=26#C26
#240. To: Morgana le Fay (#238)
Liberator is my pal from the perspective of an alternative Universe. He gives me capability unlike 4um. But you don't realize that. I don't agree with anyone.
#241. To: buckeroo (#240)
ok, you are scared of him. maybe i will go over and slap him around a little.
#242. To: Morgana le Fay (#241)
He is my bot. But go ahead ... you will see me saying the same theme.
#243. To: buckeroo (#242)
Ignoring the war which the islamo-nuts have brought is entirely immoral-and suicidal. Stronger folk than you toil all night-and some die-to defend your ignorant existence. The pursuit of war, which we are required to attend, gives us the moral requirement of efficient action. Conventional attacks have been weak, ineffective and encourage the enemy. We must do more, and soon. Be as disgusted as you like-pray as hard as you may-only a more savage response to the islamo-nuts will end this thing. To think otherwise, is criminal-as your handle suggests. Becket Saunders posted on 2006-09-17 00:35:25 ET Reply Trace Do some good and go question BucketSanders on his insane genocidal hatred.
5. To: thoughtcriminal (#4)
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#244. To: Dakmar (#243)
Why should I waste a keystroke upon anyone? You have hurt me this evening, you are non-compliant lover of government. Shame on you.
#245. To: buckeroo (#244)
Anthrax victim's widow says government may know who killed husband
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#246. To: Dakmar (#245)
You have a baccalaureate degree that begs for more government control about our lives, right?
#247. To: buckeroo (#246)
Something like that. My main goal is to point out corruption.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#248. To: Dakmar (#247)
Where? Are you another annoying POS akin to JT that bleeds America because you are some miserable motherfucker that begs for acclaim?
#249. To: buckeroo (#128)
No i'm not. The NYC police pension is privately funded. Stick that up your Asshat.
But JT is a federal retiree.
#250. To: Jethro Tull (#249)
Sure ... never-the-less, you spent your life as part of the problem ... not a solution.
#251. To: Jethro Tull (#249)
Thanks a lot for waking up Liberace. I guess a peaceful Sunday morning is too much to ask for.
#252. To: buckeroo (#250)
OK, so you admit you're wrong. The rum must be wearing
off. Now as far as being part of a problem, it's YOU and your financial
support of the Golden-One that is part of the problem. Her forum is a
cesspool, stocked with professional bot posters and mental cases. I suppose
that's why you fit in so well.
never-the-less, you spent your life as part of the problem
#253. To: Minerva (#251)
I'm thinking Capt. Morgan has a bad headache.
#254. To: Jethro Tull (#253)
I think he screwed up my avatar. It stopped coming up just as he arrived.
#255. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
If it was so important for the administration to be believed on 9/11, maybe it shouldn't have lied so transparently about Iraq. People who are morally capable of lying their country into a war of aggression are morally capable of doing just about anything.
We cannot allow the truth of what happened on 9/11 to be clouded by the conspiracy nuts. America cannot afford to lose the will to fight this war.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#256. To: Jethro Tull (#252)
Hey pal, I ensure funds are distributed as I see requirements ... not from your perspective. If I took your advice, I would donate to the JT cause of infamy and your bothers that are on the take in NYC.
.... it's YOU and your financial support of the Golden-One that is part of the problem.
#257. To: buckeroo (#256)
How come you don't donate to this site? We don't run beg a thons, but if you sent us a hundred bucks we would take it.
#258. To: buckeroo (#256)
Send us $300. One for JT, one for Christine and one for myself.
#259. To: Minerva (#254)
Your avatar? You ripped it off from someone that took the time to create it. Why not confess to the fact you have plagiarized others?
I think he screwed up my avatar.
#260. To: buckeroo (#256)
Asshat...Goldi is a government worker (no doubt entitled to a federal pension) who supports the war. You, in turn, support her. Disgusting.
Hey pal, I ensure funds are distributed as I see requirements
#261. To: buckeroo (#259)
I don't have a scanner so I had no choice. If you would send the $300 like you are supposed to I could buy a scanner.
You ripped it off from someone that took the time to create it.
#262. To: Minerva (#258) (Edited)
Sounds like Bucky is going to report you to the avatar police.
#263. To: Jethro Tull (#262)
If you read the thread above you can see that it's basically his fault. If he sends the money like he is supposed to then I will scan an original. The ball is in his court now.
Sounds like Bucky is going to report you to the avatar police.
#264. To: Minerva (#257)
I already have a wager with Indrid Cold to that effect .... here, 22 Year High Today: Ag But you won't take a peek, will you?
#265. To: buckeroo (#264)
No, my guess is that you were just saying something stupid like you do here. So why waste my time?
But you won't take a peek, will you?
#266. To: Minerva (#261)
So you admit to the fact, that you are a liar and a thief ... two of the worst human qualities that mankind possesses. And yet, you think you are fair-minded and a "patriot" and a good little munchkin, 'eh?
#267. To: buckeroo (#266)
No, but nice try at putting words in my mouth.
So you admit to the fact, that you are a liar and a thief ...
#268. To: Minerva (#265)
I have you trapped. You can't back up anything other than the sewer with your own turds.
#269. To: buckeroo (#266)
The way I see it is the avatar is 100% your fault.
o you admit to the fact, that you are a liar and a thief ..
#270. To: buckeroo (#268)
No you don't silly.
I have you trapped.
#271. To: Minerva (#267)
You created your own avatar? You did all that work, yourself? WOW ... how creative you must really be.
#272. To: buckeroo (#271)
I never said that. I said I was forced to use a link to another because you didn't follow though on your obligations. It's actually your fault.
You created your own avatar? You did all that work, yourself?
#273. To: buckeroo (#271)
Be a grown up and admit you caused the problem. Then get the $300 in the mail so we can fix it.
#274. To: Minerva (#272)
Well of course, a common liar and a thief shall take the time to blame others for their own misdeeds. That's a part of your own squirmy, truth, right?
#275. To: buckeroo (#274)
The real Liberace wouldn't be bitter and angry like you are. Think about that.
#276. To: buckeroo (#274)
why do you come over here and attack minerva for no reason? she hasn't done anything to you.
#277. To: Minerva (#275)
How would you know? He was a master at blow jobs. Are you confessing to the same?
#278. To: Morgana le Fay (#276)
Minerva needs some ass-kicking ... you want some, too?
#279. To: buckeroo (#277)
I don't know. You, as the 'Liberace of the Internet', are in a much better position to know. What sorts of things does the 'Liberace of the Internet' have to master? Cyber sex?
How would you know? He was a master at blow jobs. Are you confessing to the same?
#280. To: buckeroo (#278)
you obviously have anger issues. do you want me to try to help you through them?
Minerva needs some ass-kicking ... you want some, too?
#281. To: Minerva (#279)
Well, I have you to stroke ... don't I?
#282. To: buckeroo (#281)
The real Liberace wouldn't approve.
Well, I have you to stroke ... don't I?
#283. To: Morgana le Fay (#280)
Look, I have been on the Inet longer than you can imagine. You are just a little, "peep-squeak" to me, Morgana ... LOL
#284. To: Morgana le Fay (#282)
Not at all.
The real Liberace wouldn't approve.
#285. To: buckeroo (#283)
We can imagine. We think you are really old and that you smell like vicks vaporub.
Look, I have been on the Inet longer than you can imagine.
#286. To: Minerva (#285)
and stale pee.
We can imagine. We think you are really old and that you smell like vicks vaporub.
#287. To: Minerva (#285)
Isn't that a sweet odor? Nothing like your lies or theft or commission of vulgarity.
We think you are really old and that you smell like vicks vaporub.
#288. To: buckeroo (#287)
do you chew tabacco?
#289. To: Morgana le Fay (#288)
I have never used tobacco products, why do you ask?
#290. To: buckeroo (#289)
you seemed like the type.
I have never used tobacco products, why do you ask?
#291. To: buckeroo (#289)
why do you wnat to kick minerva's ass? she is always nice to you.
#292. To: Morgana le Fay (#291)
You could get a life. She is JT's protector. She is a whinny little, do- nothing poster that has too much time on her hands. She has no concept of reality or the ability to differentiate fact from fiction. Minerva is just a little old lady that has a disgusting life of her own. And she wants to blame me.
#293. To: It Is A Republic (#0)
Interesting dynamics on this thread. A shill started it and a troll whose name starts with 'b' continued it. Here's some Offishul Dubblethinkin': "None of the conspiracy theories can stand up to scrutiny; that they have stood up at all is mostly because the mainstream press has not given them any real scrutiny."
#294. To: aristeides (#255)
You know better than that.
#295. To: buckeroo (#292)
wrong. look at her pic. ;)
Minerva is just a little old lady
#296. To: AngelSpawn (#293)
and the shill continues on...they have no shame.
"None of the conspiracy theories can stand up to scrutiny; that they have stood up at all is mostly because the mainstream press has not given them any real scrutiny."
#297. To: christine (#295)
You don't don't know that for sure. This is the Internet where everyone can lie, steal and rape while professing to be the finest thing since sliced bread. I am surprised you defend her.
#298. To: buckeroo (#297)
how do you know that i don't know her in real life?
#299. To: christine (#298)
I don't think that is the point. You don't have a resume requirement upon 4um to participate, do you? And do you also validate those same resumes? And since when have you created this requirement to vouch for the background of anyone? Just now? Why is that? Because you sense a weakness in her/his postings when I confront her based upon "pings"? Look, you can validate anyone you want. It doesn't subtract from their own postings. And you knew it, too.
#300. To: buckeroo (#299)
If she did you'd be cleaning the hopper with a tooth brush.
You don't have a resume requirement upon 4um to participate, do you?
#301. To: Jethro Tull (#300)
You miss your desk job in NYC, stamping approvals from the status quo, don't you, JT?
#302. To: buckeroo (#301)
Never worked a desk. Spent most of my time in picturesque downtown Brooklyn.
#303. To: Jethro Tull (#302)
How much money did you pick up just walking the beat?
#304. To: buckeroo (#303)
I never counted.
#305. To: Jethro Tull (#304)
Must be nice to have three income streams ... social security, NYC retirement AND bucks from the street for your involvement of illicit activities. Kinda makes you feel proud sitting on your ass today, doesn't it?
#306. To: buckeroo (#305)
You got some streams wrong, but yes, it feels good :)
#307. To: It Is A Republic (#294)
Gotta keep the spin general don't you. Can't say things like: "Bush wasn't lying when he and his noise machine told us about the WMD." Can't say things like: "Bush wasn't lying when he and his noise machine told us about he Saddam / Al Quaida Connections." Can't say things like: "Bush wasn't lying when he told us that the trailers of mass destruction were the WMD find." In my opinion, an administration that would lie through its teeth about a war this way, and that would continue to lie through its teeth to this very day (note Cheney's recent statements), is capable of anything. Going on the Republican record of the past six years, pulling off 911 isn't out of character for them at all. And at least 42% of the country agrees with me here - probably more as there are also those who believe Bush and the Republicans would do it, but perhaps took no active role. The Republicans are beginning to reap what they sow. Look how pathetic Bush's current position is: ranting red faced at congress to save him from a war crimes trial by narrowing the scope of the Geneva Convention. Where is the honor and integrity in that worm? He is sleazier than you are.
You know better than that.
.
#308. To: buckeroo (#299)
Sure she does. The only exceptions are silly goofs we let on for fun - just so we can have fun pushing thier buttons. You filled out the application form didn't you? You participated in the panel interview didn't you? You should know all about this.
You don't have a resume requirement upon 4um to participate,
#309. To: buckeroo (#299) (Edited)
i had to fill out a five page form and go through a two hour phone interview before i was allowed to post. minerva's right. everyone has to do this except the idiots Christine lets on just for target practice. these goofs can sign up by just by giving their email address.
I don't think that is the point. You don't have a resume requirement upon 4um to participate, do you? And do you also validate those same resumes? And since when have you created this requirement to vouch for the background of anyone?
#310. To: Jethro Tull (#306)
seems like all liberace wants to do is come over here and play mind games with us. why is he like that?
#311. To: Jethro Tull (#306)
Mention the lifetime supply of free doughnuts and fresh-brewed coffee from Dunkin Doughnuts you get every morning delivered to your door at taxpayer expense---that'll give 'im apoplexy...
You got some streams wrong, but yes, it feels good :)
#312. To: Morgana le Fay (#310)
I think he shows the classic signs of bipolar disorder coupled with a taste for rot gut rum.
why is he like that?
#313. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#311)
hehehehehe....(we still have our annual Christmas party on the cuff) (g)
#314. To: Morgana le Fay (#310)
I read somewhere that buckeroo was hispanic and only recently arrived in the country. The difference in cultures could explain a lot. I will go look for the source now.
#315. To: Morgana le Fay (#310)
Maybe he'll bring one next time.
play mind games with us
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#316. To: jessejane (#315)
he is always trying to push our buttons and play with our heads.
#317. To: Minerva (#314)
how do you get government grants? i am sick of my work and would rather sponge off buckeroo and his ilk.
#318. To: Morgana le Fay (#316)
Morgana...we're talking about the Liberace of the internet(s). He wants to play with more than heads.
and play with our heads.
#319. To: buckeroo (#299)
buuuuck..i tell you to look and see that Minerva's not an old lady and now i'm vouching for member's backgrounds? hey, i vouched for you too then when i said you were kinda cute after you showed me your picture in your cowboy hat. :P
#320. To: Morgana le Fay (#316)
So, you put him the miserable failure category. Check.
he is always trying to push our buttons and play with our heads.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#321. To: christine (#319)
make buckeroo post his picture on his home page.
#322. To: Morgana le Fay (#321)
I found one.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#323. To: jessejane (#322)
i want him to post one he chooses. that is more revealing.
#324. To: jessejane (#322)
He has to post it himself. If someone gets a picture without his permission we can't really make fun of it. He'll just accuse us of invading his privacy. It's better to twist his arm until he puts one up himself. Then it can be fair game.
#325. To: jessejane (#322) (Edited)
we don't really want a picture of buckeroo per se, we want one that we can make fun of without people coming down on us.
I found one.
#326. To: Morgana le Fay (#323)
i want him to post one he chooses. that is more revealing. Then I probably have the one you want.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#327. To: Minerva (#324)
When should we start the clock?
He has to post it himself. If someone gets a picture without his permission we can't really make fun of it. He'll just accuse us of invading his privacy. It's better to twist his arm until he puts one up himself. Then it can be fair game.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#328. To: Morgana le Fay (#325)
Makes sense to me.
we don't really want a picture of buckeroo per se, we want one that we can make fun of without people coming down on us.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#329. To: ..., It Is A Republic (#307)
I have no idea what It Is A Republic means. Prompted by his comment, I have reconsidered my posting, and it is still my considered opinion.
You know better than that.
Katrina was America's Chernobyl.
#330. To: jessejane (#326)
ask him if you can post the picture. if he says yes then we can make fun of his picture. if he says no then we can make fun of him for being a chicken shit.
Then I probably have the one you want.
#331. To: Morgana le Fay (#330)
No. He is not the boss.
ask him if you can post the picture. if he says yes then we can make fun of his picture. if he says no then we can make fun of him for being a chicken shit.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#332. To: Morgana le Fay (#330) (Edited)
OK, I'll try to post it again.
#333. To: Ferret Mike (#332) (Edited)
my pictuure is on my home page. i just put it on like any other picture. zipporah, christine, pandora and minerva all have their pictures up too.
#334. To: Morgana le Fay (#333) (Edited)
OK, it does post, it just doesn't show in preview.
#335. To: Ferret Mike (#334)
are you in jail in that picture? i see bars and stone walls.
#336. To: Morgana le Fay (#335) (Edited)
That is the back door to the Portland Saturday Market building off of Burnside Street in Portland, Oregon where I used to work. I am holding a bicycle I am about to get on and ride home. This was taken after working overnight Friday night to Saturday morning; a 12 hour shift. There are two collapsibles behind me inside the building they rent to people new to selling at the market. The Iron gate keeps guys from peeing right at the backdoor. That is skid row up there after all.
#337. To: Morgana le Fay (#333)
If I'm allowed to say this, you are all very good-looking ladies. Or should I say "wymmyn"? :P
my pictuure is on my home page. i just put it on like any other picture. zipporah, christine, pandora and minerva all have their pictures up too.
#338. To: Ferret Mike (#334)
Hey Mike. That's a great pic of you, but a word to the wise. Bucky is going to be all over you like white on rice.
#339. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#337)
minerva used to model in the art department at ucsb. there are many paintings of her still in the area. one was in the Santa Barbara public library for a while.
#340. To: Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike (#338)
this is probably correct. that is why i just show a portion of my face now. i did have a full view photo up but there are just too many weirdos.
That's a great pic of you, but a word to the wise. Bucky is going to be all over you like white on rice.
#341. To: Morgana le Fay (#339)
And you (again if I can say this without getting the "black candle" treatment :P) look like a much prettier version of Joni Mitchell...and I already thought she was pretty! (But if you're like Minerva, you'll just pretend you're too young to know who Joni Mitchell is... :P)
minerva used to model in the art department at ucsb. there are many paintings of her still in the area. one was in the Santa Barbara public library for a while.
#342. To: Morgana le Fay (#340)
And quite a face it is, Morgana. Are you free next weekend?
#343. To: Ferret Mike (#336)
I'm sorry Mike, but I just don't find you attractive---you need a better 'do... :P
#344. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#341)
joni mitchell hangs out in a cafe on abbot kinney in venice. i forget the name, but is it at the corner of the street that runs back into the gang infested area. i think it is called harry's. she always sits in a table in back alone. sometimes she is also in the rose cafe in santa monica on sunday morning. my friend sylvianne lives in venice and we see her all the time. joni mitchell has a house on grand canal.
#345. To: Morgana le Fay (#344)
Her lover (well, at one time...) Dave Crosby brought her out to LA, I think... Before that, IIRC, she was trying her luck in the "folk music" scene in NY, and I'm certain she still has a place there, IIRC in the Dakota of John Lennon assassination notoriety... Lived in or near Venice when I first moved to LA (my son was born in Santa Monica Hospital). It's vibrant and exciting, but my ex and I decided it just wasn't the place to raise kids---not "breeder friendly".... ;)
joni mitchell hangs out in a cafe on abbot kinney in venice. i forget the name, but is it at the corner of the street that runs back into the gang infested area. i think it is called harry's. she always sits in a table in back alone. sometimes she is also in the rose cafe in santa monica on sunday morning. my friend sylvianne lives in venice and we see her all the time. joni mitchell has a house on grand canal.
#346. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#345)
david crosby used to live in santa barbara. we would see him in the breakfast place on state street and about ortega. he looked terrible in those days. he needed a liver transplant. i guess he got it because he started looking better and people said it was because of his transplant.
#347. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#345)
my friend sylvianne has a house on grand canal and i was her roomate for about a year before I came here. we had a lot of fun. the old boat house for the gondolas was nearby and about once a week they either had an art opening or some other function there. we would also go to the directors guild up on sunset for movie previews. there was always a party afterward. we knew a very striking woman who did nothing but throw big parties in other people's houses. she charged people $20 to get in and made her living that way. we would go to the trubador and the house of blues on sunset for music. i could run to the venice pier from our house and then run all the way up under the santa monica pier every evening. did you ever see the big roller on the beach next to the santa monica pier? it is a sculpture and when it rolls it stamps out a miniature city in the sand on the beach.
Lived in or near Venice when I first moved to LA (my son was born in Santa Monica Hospital). It's vibrant and exciting, but my ex and I decided it just wasn't the place to raise kids---not "breeder friendly".... ;)
#348. To: Morgana le Fay (#346)
I know that place---Danish theme right? Pastries, good omelettes, etc. Crosby was looking like a nauseous walrus for a while. He's a walking advertisement for "Everything in moderation." Unfortunately rock star status is not conducive to moderation in anything. I'm glad though that the transplant seems to have worked---I do want him as a living example...
david crosby used to live in santa barbara. we would see him in the breakfast place on state street and about ortega. he looked terrible in those days. he needed a liver transplant. i guess he got it because he started looking better and people said it was because of his transplant.
#349. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#348)
it was a straight omlet place. just greasy breakfasts with hashbrowns. everyone would go there. you had to sit outside on benches waiting to get in on sunday. it was kitty corner from the old sea plane factory where all the art studios were. just before the dip under the freeway.
know that place---Danish theme right? Pastries, good omelettes, etc.
#350. To: Morgana le Fay (#347)
West LA in general is a hell of a fun place if you're young, good-looking and unattached. Expensive though: about 15 years ago a guy in the LA office of my firm complained: "There's only one word for what $1 million will get you on the Westside, and that's DUMP!!" did you ever see the big roller on the beach next to the santa monica pier? it is a sculpture and when it rolls it stamps out a miniature city in the sand on the beach. I vaguely recall it. What I remember most vividly about the old Pier in Santa Monica were the Asian guys trying to fish off of it! :P
we knew a very striking woman who did nothing but throw big parties in other people's houses. she charged people $20 to get in and made her living that way.
#351. To: Morgana le Fay (#349)
OK, I think I know that place too. One time I went there with the kids when they were much younger and my daughter had the fresh fruit plate---she talked about it for years after that. She's now a confirmed vegetarian---real "California girl"... :P
it was a straight omlet place. just greasy breakfasts with hashbrowns. everyone would go there. you had to sit outside on benches waiting to get in on sunday. it was kitty corner from the old sea plane factory where all the art studios were. just before the dip under the freeway.
#352. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#343)
That was last summer, my hair is actually longer now. But at age 52, I don't care about games concerning about who finds me attractive or not. And I have a feeling it will just get worse the older I get. ;-)
"I'm sorry Mike, but I just don't find you attractive---you need a better 'do... "
#353. To: Ferret Mike (#352)
Well, you don't know what *I* look like... So.. count your blessings... ;)
But at age 52, I don't care about games concerning about who finds me attractive or not.
#354. To: Jethro Tull (#338)
Looks like you finally ran off Liberace. Haven't seen him since this morning.
Bucky is going to be all over you like white on rice.
#355. To: christine (#319)
I am not "kinda" cute.
i vouched for you too then when i said you were kinda cute after you showed me your picture in your cowboy hat. :P
#356. To: buckeroo (#355)
Cyber Cootie!!
#357. To: Minerva (#356)
I have a serious problem about my personal appearance. I must use a burlap bag to hide my blemishes and scars from public attention. Its worked for me so far in life with exception as Christine has indicated. I already know everyone hates me. The last thing I want is for public vomiting about my later appearance which to this day has created public scorn as i represent all that is wrong about American war policy. There is a college picture around here somewhere that portrays me just before enlisting into the US Army. Would that do?
#358. To: buckeroo (#357)
No.
There is a college picture around here somewhere that portrays me just before enlisting into the US Army. Would that do?
#359. To: Minerva (#358)
So what exactly do you want? To publicly humiliate me while simultaneously gagging about this Vietnam Vet? If I presented a current picture of my true, real life self .. I doubt, that anyone would care about me again. And this is important to me, I might have to change my handle as Phantom of the Opera or something. Moreover, there are piles of peeping Toms wondering about my capabilities upon the Internet. All they really want to perform is laff at me, anyway as I have beaten them down into small and tiny little intellectual morsel chunks of coal. Are you aware of what you are asking here? I could be flamed and made the laughing stock of the Internet?
#360. To: buckeroo (#359)
It couldn't get much worse than it already is.
I could be flamed and made the laughing stock of the Internet
#361. To: Peetie Wheatstraw, Morgana Le Fay (#350)
did you ever see the big roller on the beach next to the santa monica pier? it is a sculpture and when it rolls it stamps out a miniature city in the sand on the beach. I'm learning a few things about LA tonight. I've never been there, I've never been to California. Your descriptions are interesting and colorful.
West LA in general is a hell of a fun place if you're young, good-looking and unattached. Expensive though: about 15 years ago a guy in the LA office of my firm complained: "There's only one word for what $1 million will get you on the Westside, and that's DUMP!!"
#362. To: buckeroo (#355)
Are you not cute? Are you real cute?
I am not "kinda" cute.
#363. To: Minerva, Jethro Tull (#360)
Whom has harmed me or tarnished my already respectful reputation besides that NYC cop, JT? And why should you care about my ugly real-life appearance?
#364. To: buckeroo (#357)
Can you post that one please please? I want to see your picture!
There is a college picture around here somewhere that portrays me just before enlisting into the US Army. Would that do?
#365. To: buckeroo (#363)
Diana wants to see your picture too. If you don't post your picture I will ping JT and he will come and slap you around again.
#366. To: Minerva, Jethro Tull (#365)
That wimp? He couldn't slap around a can of SPAM from Y2K except upon his use of the federal government's BBQ FREE program in a forest, somewhere outside of federal control for a mountain in Virginia because the US government bureaucrats need to run towards, sanctity.
I will ping JT and he will come and slap you around again.
#367. To: Diana (#362)
Are you real cute? Look, I understand that Christine wants some of us to be as pretty as television stars so that when I post, I cast a possible image of appeal. Her heart is in the right place as she works to strengthen the communications capability of the forum. And I applaud her. Her work has showed significant gain about the forum for the same. But, I am afraid to publicly post my own image. I am afraid, as it could perform great harm to not just myself but to the members of this fine website. I am impressed that anyone cares about my physical appearance anyways. It really doesn't matter what I look like.
Are you not cute?
#368. To: buckeroo (#367)
Chickeshit!
#369. To: Minerva (#368)
Minerva - If I revealed myself in public, no matter how horrid I appear would you care to realize that background to save America? You wouldn't make fun of me; would you give me an oath of honor? - Buckeroo
I am physically ugly. And as I think about it, I am sorry for all the harm I have performed; but understand that while in active service of the country, the risks about our being are secondary to none. I guess you can say that I am Chickeshit! afraid of my appearance to be publicly known. The horrors I personally interceded for our country has continuously lead to the admonishment about my contemporary life; an ugly life, not-with- standing public scorn and humiliation.
#370. To: buckeroo (#369)
JT says you read Maureen Dowd editorials all the time. Do you like her or do you just read them because she is good looking?
#371. To: Diana (#364)
Can you post that one please please? I want to see your picture!
Someone just sent me this shot of buckeroo. It might not be his best picture, but its the best we have.
#372. To: buckeroo (#367)
Not true, not true. Talking anuses are always of amusement. Show.....
It really doesn't matter what I look like.
#373. To: Minerva (#370)
Well, for you, I put up my 4um homepage. And no the data you have about Maureen Dowd is incorrect. I don't like any gossip columnist.
#374. To: buckeroo, Diana (#373)
I've seen the picture on your home page before. That's not really you. That probably means the one I got on the PM and posted above is correct.
#375. To: Minerva (#374)
Minerva....the Buck pic....what about that pose?
#376. To: Minerva (#374)
the picture you posted above does look like buckeroo. there was a headshot of him posted wearing a cowboy hat. the face looked like the face in your picture. you could only see the head and shoulders in the other picture though.
#377. To: Morgana le Fay (#376)
This may be the rest:
you could only see the head and shoulders in the other picture though.
If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.
#378. To: Jethro Tull (#375)
Well ...... he did drop us a hint when he told us that he was the 'Liberace of the Internet'.
Minerva....the Buck pic....what about that pose?
#379. To: Minerva (#378)
So he gobbles the dong?
'Liberace of the Internet'
#380. To: Minerva (#374)
Whom do you actually know? JT? Did he send that picture to you? You see, that's him. He is a whinny, little, torn up old skinny retard, whom thinks he understands concepts like, "freedom", "liberty" and "rights." Truthfully, all he has is a mouth that suggests he knows but he really doesn't. But you have to give him credit. He tried real hard to make it in life. Even as a failure within himself.
#381. To: buckeroo (#380)
Sooooooo not true.
But you have to give him credit. He tried real hard to make it in life. Even as a failure within himself.
#382. To: Jethro Tull (#379)
'Smoking the Pole' may be a more delicate way to put it. This is a family orienteed forum after all.
So he gobbles the dong?
#383. To: buckeroo (#380)
No, JT did not send it. The person who did swore me to secrecy.
Whom do you actually know? JT? Did he send that picture to you?
#384. To: Jethro Tull (#381)
The picture has buckeroo going. That of course means that it really is him.
#385. To: Minerva (#382)
Sorry, and of course you're right.
This is a family orienteed forum after all.
#386. To: Minerva (#384)
An important clue here, you know they say people look like their dogs; well, here's Bucky's dog from a reliable source
#387. To: Minerva (#384)
A less reliable clue, but here is his cat fluffy.
#388. To: Jethro Tull (#385)
try this:
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#389. To: Ferret Mike (#386)
I've seen a couple of pics of this dog posted on the web. Do you know the history of this poor thing? Disease, abuse, etc?
#390. To: Brian S (#389)
I'm not sure, I did a Google with the key word ugliest. I'm just glad I already ate.
#391. To: Dakmar (#388)
Awesome. Assassination is our friend.
#392. To: Brian S (#389) (Edited)
Here is Sam the world's uglist dog's blogsite: http://samugliestdog.typepad.com/b log/ The Website:
#393. To: Brian S (#389)
Do you know the history of this poor thing? Disease, abuse, etc? That's Sam, the "World's Ugliest Dog" several years running. He was (he died recently) a particularly ugly specimen of an extremely ugly breed called a Chinese Crested Hairless. And he was blind which gave his eyes that peculiar creepiness.
I've seen a couple of pics of this dog posted on the web.
#394. To: Ferret Mike (#387)
I love animals, but how could you not shoot that thing if it turned up in your yard some morning?
A less reliable clue, but here is his cat fluffy.
#395. To: SmokinOPs (#394)
I know what you mean, it looks like a canine manifestation of Bush's inner being.
"I love animals, but how could you not shoot that thing if it turned up in your yard some morning?"
#396. To: SmokinOPs (#394)
Are you kidding? Can you imagine how much fun you could have with that cat on Halloween?
I love animals, but how could you not shoot that thing if it turned up in your yard some morning?
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#397. To: buckeroo, Minerva (#367)
I just like to know what the posters look like. I tend to imagine posters looking a certain way, and I've been surprised at times when I've seen pictures of posters who I've posted with or know of. I'm often very wrong in what I picture posters to be like when I see what they really look like.
It really doesn't matter what I look like.
#398. To: Ferret Mike (#386)
The dog in that picture looks like the dog who won an America's Most Ugly Dog contest.
An important clue here, you know they say people look like their dogs; well, here's Bucky's dog from a reliable source
#399. To: Jethro Tull (#391)
I have composed a Haiku in honor of buckeroo: A man of spirits,
This cyber liberace,
We suspect smokes pole.
#400. To: Brian S (#389)
Do you know the history of this poor thing? Disease, abuse, etc? It's a Chinese Crested who is very old and that breed gets very ugly in old age. The lady who had the dog who won the Ugly Dog contest had him/her since it was a puppy, and it's led a very happy life, if it's the same dog, looks like it could be.
I've seen a couple of pics of this dog posted on the web.
#401. To: Diana (#398)
See posts #392 and #393 Yes, it is Sam, the late great world's ugliest dog. ;-)
#402. To: buckeroo (#380)
Morgan posted a Maureen Dowd editorial for you to read this evening. You should tell her thank you.
#403. To: Minerva (#399) (Edited)
Excellent Haiku. Here's my effort in honor of buckeroo: An odd duck,
This ether Liberace,
Good golly, Miss Molly, he sure like a ball.
#404. To: Jethro Tull (#403)
Does buckeroo really run a gerbil ranch?
#405. To: Minerva (#383)
Are you claiming "make-believe" persons? You don't see "dead-people" too, do you?
The person who did swore me to secrecy.
#406. To: buckeroo (#405)
I already answered this for you. (1) A real person who (2) didn't want me to tell you their name. JT says you run a gerbil ranch. How did you get into such a strange business?
Are you claiming "make-believe" persons?
#407. To: buckeroo (#405)
What did you think of the Haiku I wrote for you? Here is the link: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=34966&Disp=399#C399
#408. To: buckeroo (#405)
We will quit teasing you so much if you help us beat up Mr. Butt Cootie tomorrow. He will be back bright and early for his ration of abuse. He is addicted to it and can't stay away.
#409. To: Minerva (#408)
First, are you speaking for others? Are you the leader, then? And, if so whom is Butt Cootie? Is this some hand cream that JT uses to relax himself while wearing his old cop uniform while listening to some old songs from his pals, the Village People? I am worried about your bribe, however. As a newbie to the Internet, you realize you have performed sacrilege, don't you?
We will quit teasing you so much if you help us beat up Mr. Butt Cootie tomorrow.
#410. To: buckeroo (#409)
There is no leader, it is an unorganized effort to provide a Bush propagandist with the abuse he craves.
Are you the leader, then?
#411. To: Minerva (#410)
Does this mean JT gets his jollies off while stroking himself?
#412. To: buckeroo (#411)
Why are you so obsessed with that sort of thing?
Does this mean JT gets his jollies off while stroking himself?
#413. To: Minerva (#412)
Its the way he attempts to flame me. He seems gay.
#414. To: buckeroo (#413)
And your obsession with other guy's masturbation habits makes you seem heterosexual?
Its the way he attempts to flame me. He seems gay.
#415. To: buckeroo (#413)
Why arn't you getting drunk and bothering people? It is Friday night.
#416. To: Minerva (#415)
You mean he's not? :P
Why arn't you getting drunk and bothering people? It is Friday night.
#417. To: Minerva, buckeroo (#415)
#418. To: Jethro Tull (#417)
Do you think buckeroo is OK? Maybe he got his thingey stuck in the vacuum cleaner or soemthing.
#419. To: Minerva (#418)
I'll be honest...I'm concerned. I understand he was heading to the border with his lawn chair to watch the illegals cross over, but that was 3 days ago. I have a bad feeling about this one......
#420. To: Jethro Tull (#419)
Does he keep of journal of what kinds he sees and what they were doing? I knew some people who used to watch birds this way.
he was heading to the border with his lawn chair to watch the illegals cross over
#421. To: Ferret Mike (#387)
ohmygoodness...it's half bat half cat !
#422. To: Jethro Tull (#419)
I am thinking that if he stays sober too long he will dry out and shrivel up.
#423. To: Minerva (#414)
I have no idea about his habits. Do you?
And your obsession with other guy's masturbation habits makes you seem heterosexual?
#424. To: Minerva (#415)
Well, there is a lot of good reasons why I am not posting on some worthy chatchannels. I enjoy intellectual arguments about politics. I find personal opinion about politics fascinating. You can often find me on several IRC networks while maintaining several channels at a time. The ideas move fast and furious.
Why arn't you getting drunk and bothering people? It is Friday night.
#425. To: Jethro Tull (#417)
Have you ever noticed that I don't spend time posting crap like you? Its because you are akin to low-life scum; you are beneath the lowest layers of whale fecal matter occupying the lowest layers of dropping capability within God's Green Earth's gravitational pull. In other words .. you just suck BIG_TIME. But, you like it that way as a retired, do-nothing bureaucrat; it was your personal choice to get free dental cleaning from the government.
#426. To: buckeroo (#424)
I heard you were Mexican watching. Did you see any good ones?
#427. To: buckeroo (#425) (Edited)
It's almost 1:00 AM on Saturday morning. How come you are not boiled as an owl and over here bothering people? Did you go on the wagon or something?
#428. To: buckeroo (#425)
I have been out with normal people all evening. I come home expecting some interaction with inebriated kooks and you are not around. You can be replaced you know.
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