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Title: A Conspiracy Against Us All
Source: NRO
URL Source: http://article.nationalreview.com/? ... M0M2ZjOTUwZWU4YWRiMjRlOTVjZGM=
Published: Sep 11, 2006
Author: Andrew Cline
Post Date: 2006-09-16 13:16:49 by It Is A Republic
Keywords: None
Views: 34880
Comments: 428

Five years after 9/11, the truth about what happened that day is more thoroughly documented and widely available than ever. And yet the crackpot conspiracy theories alleging that the Bush administration orchestrated the attacks or allowed them to happen have become more deeply entrenched and broadly accepted than at any time since that terrible day.

More than a third (36 percent) of the American public believes it is likely that the Bush administration either perpetrated the 9/11 attacks or deliberately failed to stop them “because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East,” according to a Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll released last month. A Zogby poll in August 2004 found that half of New York City residents believed the Bush administration knew the attacks were coming and “consciously failed to act.” The true believers might be a tiny fringe element, but thanks to the Internet, hack academics, and a passive media, they have succeeded in planting a grain of doubt in the minds of a substantial number of Americans.

The Internet is a brilliant vehicle for the dissemination of half-truths — or what only have the appearance of half-truths. Presenting one-sided versions of the story, which usually leave out mountains of available data, and armed with a few snapshots or video clips, conspiracy theorists have crafted page after page of “proof” of their theories.

For example, photographs showing dust and smoke shooting out of the towers as they collapse are cited on website after website as proof that the towers were brought down by explosions. The theory is reasonable enough, so long as you ignore all the available evidence — which is exactly what the theorists do. Numerous engineers who’ve studied the towers, and even ones who haven’t, have concluded that the puffs of smoke and debris are the result of air being pressed outward by the force of the top floors falling. It is really rather elementary: The physical space occupied by any office building consists mostly of air; if the top floors fall, where does the air in the floors below go? Out. There is no other option. Yet the theorists claim that this perfectly expected expulsion of air is proof that bombs were used.

The most prevalent theory is that the government brought the towers down by controlled demolition. This is what Brigham Young University physics professor Steven Jones, put on leave by BYU last week, believes — once again, despite the preponderance of facts showing otherwise.

Jones and his followers believe that the government placed thermite explosives in the buildings and brought them down by detonation. Never mind that thousands of pounds of explosives would somehow have to have been planted throughout the towers — in office space, behind walls, etc. — without anyone noticing. The “proof” of this theory is that the towers came down so quickly: The resistance of the lower floors would have slowed the collapse — unless, that is, the lower floors were exploded.

The video evidence clearly refutes this claim. The towers unquestionably collapsed from the top down, not bottom up. The force of the collapsing top floors, combined with the weakened steel below, were enough to bring the towers down remarkably quickly — almost in free fall, in fact.

A good example of the flimsiness of the conspiracy theories is the claim that a video shows “molten steel” falling from one of the towers. A jet-fuel fire is not strong enough to melt steel, so the picture “proves” that thermite explosives were used. The National Institutes for Standards and Training found was that the photo really shows melted aluminum from one of the aircraft. The theorists scream that melted aluminum is white, and the metal in question is clearly yellow, case closed. In its pure state, melted aluminum is white, but of course, it wasn’t pure when coming out of the towers. It was mixed with all the other burned debris, which changed its color.

The conspiracy theories rely on just that sort of thinking. They approach 9/11 as if it were a controlled scientific experiment: In theory, things are supposed to work in a certain way; because they did not, the official story cannot be true. Conspiracy theorists have little patience for facts of life, such as bureaucratic incompetence, human error, and extreme conditions. They tend to believe that the government functions at peak, even superhuman, levels. Their regard for the government — or at least, for the competence of the government — is particularly strange. The top conspiracy theorist, David Ray Griffin, claims the official story cannot possibly be true is because “such incompetence by FAA officials is not believable.”

The support of “academics” such as Griffin has lent much credence to the conspiracy mongers, but how credible are these academics? Last Wednesday Britain’s Daily Mail published a story claiming: “The 9/11 terrorist attack on America which left almost 3,000 people dead was an ‘inside job,’ according to a group of leading academics.” But the group in question, Scholars for 9/11 Truth, of which Griffin is the most prominent member, is in no sense a “group of leading academics.” It is a collection of like-minded crackpot theorists who happen to have some connection to academia.

Scholars for 9/11 Truth claims about 300 total members, 76 of whom have “academic affiliations,” according to its founder, retired University of Minnesota-Duluth philosophy professor James H. Fetzer. He told this to my newspaper, the New Hampshire Union Leader, last month when one of our reporters discovered that a University of New Hampshire professor was a member and wanted to teach a class on 9/11. The UNH professor, William Woodward, teaches psychology — not engineering or physics — is a Quaker pacifist previously arrested for demonstrating at the office of U.S. Senator Judd Gregg, and has a long history of left-wing activism. When asked by a reporter to explain his theory that the planes were not hijacked airliners, Woodward admitted that he could not account for the missing passengers who boarded their flights and never returned. Nonetheless, he was convinced that he was right — because the official 9/11 report left too much unexplained, he said.

That is how it usually is in the world of conspiracy theorists. It seems that they all claim the official story cannot be true because it has too many holes, yet goes on to posit a theory with holes large enough to, well, fly a jumbo jet through.

Some members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth are or were legitimate academics of good standing at reputable institutions. Yet, of the 76 Fetzer identifies as having “academic affiliations,” there are many with questionable credentials. A partial list includes a “visiting professor of English” at Kyungpook National University in Daegu, South Korea; an assistant professor of English literature at Dogus University in Istanbul; someone whose qualifications are listed only as “Radiology, Medical hypnosis”; another whose qualifications are “French language and culture”; someone who teaches at Tunxis Community College in Farmington, Conn.; another listed as “architect, communicator”; one professor of “English and theater” at the University of Guelph (that’s in Ontario); and one listed as “author, researcher 9/11, JFK, more.” These are some of the “leading academics” promoting the view that the government did 9/11. One author with an article posted on the Scholars for 9/11 Truth website goes by the name “Scooby Doo.”

Of the 76 full members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, only four are listed as having backgrounds in physics, three in engineering; the other 69 “scholars” are mostly in the humanities and social sciences. Not quite what you’d expect when you hear that a group of “leading academics” supports the theory that the government was behind the attack.

What do the vast majority of actual engineers and investigators who’ve studied the attacks conclude? Not unexpectedly, that the towers and the Pentagon were attacked by airliners hijacked by radical Islamic extremists, and the towers collapsed as a result of the aircraft collisions and fires. Every major investigation, from the 9/11 Commission to a panel of experts assembled by Popular Mechanics magazine to the National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST), has come to the same conclusion. And yet more and more people continue to believe the handful of conspiracy nuts. Why?

The Internet bears some responsibility, of course. But the amateur speculation so prevalent there can be cancelled out to a large degree by top-notch investigative reporting, which is what the big media are supposed to do. In this, however, the media have been less than thorough, and, to a large extent, the 9/11 conspiracy theories have spread because the mainstream media have failed in their duty to get to the truth of the matter.

Popular Mechanics did an excellent job refuting the conspiracy theorists, as has the NIST. But their work has been little explored by the mainstream press. On top of that, media outlets have tended to do puff pieces on the conspiracy theorists rather than expose their shoddy research. Too many reports on the conspiracy nuts treat them as if their ideas are to be given the same consideration as the facts. The conspiracy theorists are given the standard J-school “fairness treatment.” Get a quote from Person A and another from Person B, present both sides evenly, and leave it at that. The Washington Post did exactly that in its piece on the conspiracy theorists last Friday. What ever the merits of that approach, it doesn’t work in this case.

None of the conspiracy theories can stand up to scrutiny; that they have stood up at all is mostly because the mainstream press has not given them any real scrutiny. The academics tend to be treated with the respect any other academic would get, and because they are professors the stories are made to read just like any other dispute between professors. But in reality, the scholars peddling the 9/11 theories are practicing almost entirely outside of their realm of expertise (e.g., Griffin, the theologian) and are an ultra-tiny minority dismissed as crackpots by the vast majority of the academic world, not to mention the world of engineering.

As a result, five years after nearly 3,000 innocent people were slaughtered by radical Islamic terrorists, and just as the War on Terror enters an important new phase in which President Bush has vowed to take on both al Qaeda and its allies, and Iran and its puppets, a third of the American people reportedly think the enemy is not the jihadists, who are trying to destroy us, but our own government, which is trying to defend us against the real threat.

This is a serious development. If people don’t understand who the real enemy is, if they doubt the very basis upon which our response to 9/11 was initiated, they are not going to support our necessary war against those who are trying to destroy us. One may have his doubts about the Iraq war; and the Bush administration, in its justification and execution, has earned a great deal of the skepticism about that conflict. But the War on Terror is another matter entirely. The skepticism about that has not been earned; it has been manufactured.

We cannot allow the truth of what happened on 9/11 to be clouded by the conspiracy nuts. America cannot afford to lose the will to fight this war.

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#1. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

We cannot allow the truth of what happened on 9/11 to be clouded by the conspiracy nuts. America cannot afford to lose the will to fight this war.

Good to have the input of a blind, blue-pill, bot.

Lod  posted on  2006-09-16   13:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: lodwick (#1)

Author is quite afraid to say who truly benefitted.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-16   13:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

Five years after 9/11, the truth about what happened that day is more thoroughly documented and widely available than ever. And yet the crackpot conspiracy theories alleging that the Bush administration orchestrated the attacks or allowed them to happen have become more deeply entrenched and broadly accepted than at any time since that terrible day.

What a pant load. Has this been reported by anyone from the National Review?

Lloyd Goldman

Silverstein to be reimbursed $98M of WTC investment.(Larry Silverstein )

Real Estate Weekly; 12/3/2003; Moore, Peter


Search for more information on HighBeam Research for silverstein 125 million.

Larry Silverstein reportedly will be reimbursed much of his reserve funds he invested six weeks before terrorist slammed jets into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center. The New York Times reported Nov. 22 that Silverstein and his co-investors would receive $98 million, about 80 percent of the $125 million they invested in equity in 2001. The 99-year lease with the Port Authority was valued at $3.2 billion. The investors along with the Port Authority, who owned the buildings, are using insurance proceeds to pay off GMAC Commercial Mortgage Corporation, Silverstein's lender, a reported sum of $563 million.

Silverstein and his partners will retain their 99-year lease and play a large part in the redesigning of the area. A new collaborative design for the Freedom Tower, the brainchild of architects David Childs and Daniel Libeskind, is scheduled for release next month.

Howard Rubenstein, a spokesman for Silverstein, released a statement the day the Times article appeared, saying that Silverstein was rightfully entitled to the funds he used as collateral for a loan to make a down payment on his lease.

"The GMAC reserves that are being returned to his companies were established to secure the GMAC mortgage loan," Rubenstein said. "Now that the mortgage loan has been satisfied, there is no reason for the security for that loan to remain tied up in escrow accounts earning minimal interest."

According to Rubenstein, the days of Silverstein seeing a return on his Ground Zero investment are a long time in the future.

"When it comes time to refinance the project, Mr. Silverstein's companies likely will have to put up the same or more amounts of security for those new loans," Rubenstein said. "In the interim, as part of his agreement with the Port Authority, Mr. Silverstein is committing 100 percent of all future business interruption proceeds to the project. As a result of this commitment, Mr. Silverstein and his investors likely will not see any return for a decade."

Following the Times article, a state judge issued a gag order on all participants in the anticipated deal. PA spokesman Greg Trevor declined to comment, citing the gag order. Silverstein has been deadlocked in a battle with the trade center insurers since the attacks. The leaseholder claims the two planes striking the towers constituted two separate disasters and should result accordingly in a $7 billion insurance payout. The insurers claim the strikes were one disaster and are offering $3.5 million.

The insurers have paid out about $1.9 billion to date.

The Times also reported the Port Authority has reached an agreement to buy out Westfield America, which operated the retail mall at the trade center, for $140 million.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   14:05:40 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

National Review is a Nazis fascist rag.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-16   14:14:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-16   14:15:47 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

His own equity already insured by private investors. And he is not worthy of 80% about the capital loss? WOW. Where do you realize the difference between reality and fantasy; but then again, you may not be able to differentiate between the two.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-16   14:18:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

Needless to say, it is well known that National Review is a CIA sockpuppet.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-09-16   14:43:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: buckeroo (#6)

This money represents his downpayment on the lease. Why should a nickle have been returned?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   14:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

You just love that retirement entitlement that you earned performing nothing more than a desk cop fielding questions from the public supporting the government edict as professional servant. You are a god damned Fabian socialist.

I laff at you, clown.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-16   15:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

The theorists scream that melted aluminum is white, and the metal in question is clearly yellow, case closed. In its pure state, melted aluminum is white, but of course, it wasn’t pure when coming out of the towers. It was mixed with all the other burned debris, which changed its color.

It is interesting to see how the propagandist works. Here the 911 truth people raise a valid point. Instead of answering it however, the writer spews an unsupported crackpot theory that unknown and unspecified impurities somehow contaminated the aluminum and gave it the black body signature of melted steel.

Would that he take the next step and explain the details of this miraculous transformation.

This alone shows you that the writer isn't looking for the truth. He's tossing out any bullshit he needs to toss out to protect Bush and get the next war going.

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...  posted on  2006-09-16   15:19:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: It Is A Republic (#0) (Edited)

The Internet bears some responsibility, of course.

But the Republican culture of corruption and self serving dishonesty bears the brunt of responsibility. Their patttern and practice of poorly concealed deception and DeLay/Abramoff/Ney style criminal self service makes it easy for people to believe that the Republicans would pull off something like the 911 attacks.

People look at past Republican conduct and ask themselve if planning the 011 attacks seems like something the Republicans would do. And it does. After watching the scum in action for the past six years, killing three thousand Americans to further their selfish political goals seems to be perfectly in character for the Republican party.

I think this shows how grossly the Republicans have failed in their leadership of this country. I've actually seen polls where 42 percent of the population believes Bush at least stood by and allowed the attacks to happen. Almost half the country finds it easy to believe that Bush would murder 3000 citizens for his own selfish, self serving reasons.

From this you may conclude that Bush, and the Republican parth that Bush represents, have almost zero credibility and have utterly and miserably failed leaders. They are simply liabilities now.

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...  posted on  2006-09-16   15:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

As a result, five years after nearly 3,000 innocent people were slaughtered by radical Islamic terrorists, and just as the War on Terror enters an important new phase in which President Bush has vowed to take on both al Qaeda and its allies, and Iran and its puppets, a third of the American people reportedly think the enemy is not the jihadists, who are trying to destroy us, but our own government, which is trying to defend us against the real threat.

Wow! It must be so tremendously self-aggrandizing to be such a useful psy-op tool.
Where do I sign up?

hammerdown  posted on  2006-09-16   15:50:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: It Is A Republic (#0) (Edited)

There is one thing more than anything else that convinces me that the 911 Truth People might be on to something: that is the way the goober fooler press prods you guys to flail around and spew your hate on this subject.

The people who provide your ideas for you need to fool you about so many subjects - some goobs are realizing there were no WMD in Iraq, other goobs are questioning the Saddam/Al Quada connection, even more goobs now doubt that Saddam was flying one of the planes on 911 - but the goob foolers waste precious bandwidth hyping you up over the 911 Truth Movement.

This makes me ask what the people who think for you guys don't want me to see.

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...  posted on  2006-09-16   16:00:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: ... (#13)

That is the icing on this and several other cakes.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-16   16:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Arator (#7)

Arator,

It looks like Liberty Forum is down big time. Do you know anything about it?

angle  posted on  2006-09-16   16:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

Popular Mechanics did an excellent job refuting the conspiracy theorists, as has the NIST.

They did? When?

angle  posted on  2006-09-16   16:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

Where is my pal, JT? Are you writing a thesis about how great you are because you rubber-stamped US government policies? Such a nice professional American, you are .

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-16   16:30:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: hammerdown (#12)

hey hey :P

christine  posted on  2006-09-16   16:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lodwick (#1)

Good to have the input of a blind, blue-pill, bot.

lol

christine  posted on  2006-09-16   16:41:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

911: Press for Truth<----here ya go, conspiracy nut.

Government sponsored terrorism<----history lesson

christine  posted on  2006-09-16   16:51:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#18)

This is weird. Been longer without it than with it. lol!

hammerdown  posted on  2006-09-16   17:04:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: angle (#16)

Can you believe the horsepucky this guy posts here?

Nostalgia  posted on  2006-09-16   17:09:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Nostalgia (#22)

Can you believe the horsepucky this guy posts here?

Look at the article I just posted from LP. This guy is similar, he operates in an alternate reality supported by an improbably system of interlocking conspiracies.

We don't see the truth because the MSM conspires with the Islamofascists to fool us. The Republicans on the Senate Intelligence committe conspired with liberals to make Bush look bad wrt the Saddam/AQ fable. Liberals are conspiring with terrorists and communists to destroy America. People who don't support Bush want the troops killed and are conspiring with the enemy to accomplish this. Arabs hate us for our freedom and because the Madrassa consprire to turn them against us - and not because we bomb them and support Israel. Etc.

Every fact has to be deflected with a dark conspiracy or his entire belief structure falls. These gays do this enough and they literally lose their grip on reality - like the guy on the thread I posted. The denial eventually degerates into paranoia and mental illness.

I notice that it has gotten so bad that Rush now has to tell his audience not to look at other sources of information. The spin has diverged so much from reality that Rush can no longer reconcile his spin with reality. He just has to keep the goobs away from reality.

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...  posted on  2006-09-16   17:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: It Is A Republic (#0)

"When Judah saw Tamar (her daughter-in-law), he thought she was a prostitute, ….She said, ‘what will you give me to have sex?’….He answered, ‘I will send you a young goat from my flock.’…..He gave them to her. Then had sex, and she became pregnant. Out of this incestuous relationship between a father-in-law and his daughter-in-law, twins were born, who became the forefathers of Jews," – Jewish Bible - Genesis 38:15-18

Max  posted on  2006-09-16   18:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeroo (#9)

You just love that retirement entitlement that you earned performing nothing more than a desk cop

I live by a simple code.

One can never retire too often or too early.

:)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   18:17:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: robin, ... (#14) (Edited)

That is the icing on this and several other cakes.

Yep.

If we were really at war, the borders would be closed.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-16   18:24:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

Is the Asshat Goldi-Lox's husband? That would explain a lot.

Minerva  posted on  2006-09-16   18:28:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeroo (#17)

Where is my pal, JT? Are you writing a thesis about how great you are because you rubber-stamped US government policies?

How much money are you going to shove in Goldi's pocket this week?

Nice work keeping that Israel-First forum breathing.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   18:28:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Minerva (#27)

I'm thinking Asshat started his Sunday binge a day early.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   18:29:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Minerva (#27)

"Is the Asshat Goldi-Lox's husband? That would explain a lot."

But who wears the pants?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-16   18:33:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: ... (#23)

These gays do this enough and they literally lose their grip on reality

Freudian slip? (snicker)

Nostalgia  posted on  2006-09-16   18:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

But who wears the pants?

Who gets to be on top?

Minerva  posted on  2006-09-16   18:36:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: It Is A Republic, robin (#0)

Andrew Cline

an obvious paid JEW on the NR staff spewing his propaganda bullshit.



***LEAP***

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-09-16   18:52:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#28)

I shall give my money to anyone I want without your interference, thank you. BTW, how is all that SPAM, still eating it 'eh?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-16   19:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

I live by a simple code.

Explain your health problems as you play upon the Internet all day. Oh sure, you are God's gift to humanity as you squirt off a few rhetorical posts towards me. Yet, whom is paying your medical costs keeping you alive from your listless lifestyle? Oh, you are a great party member, comrade.

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-16   19:56:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: buckeroo (#34)

I shall give my money to anyone I want without your interference, thank you.

I suggest shock treatments for those mood swings, also medication can help to organize your thoughts.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   19:57:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: buckeroo, Minerva (#35)

Explain your health problems as you play upon the Internet all day.

Chronic piles.

Oh sure, you are God's gift to humanity as you squirt off a few rhetorical posts towards me.

I find your choice of the word squirt odd. MINERVA!!! Your input is needed.

Yet, whom is paying your medical costs keeping you alive from your listless lifestyle?

Whom? You and your fellow tax paying sheeple. Thanks.

Oh, you are a great party member, comrade.

Thank-you.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   20:02:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Jethro Tull (#36)

Why not answer my questions, directly? Is it because you are attempting to deflect your own epitaph which is a lie?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-16   20:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: buckeroo (#38)

And which question is that?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-16   20:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#37)

Looks to me, that you are acting defensive about yourself. Why is that, JT? Are you also pissing on yourself as you attempt to defend yourself while knowing you can not? What happened to you JT? Are you just a minor player not capable of addressing anything more than your own silly web-chat and then when confronting me, tremble upon your own knees, in public?

'Eh piss_boy?

buckeroo  posted on  2006-09-16   20:11:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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