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Title: Olbermann: Bush's 'rush' to redefine Geneva Conventions may be mostly about 'covering his own backside'
Source: RAW STORY
URL Source: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/V ... ants_at_reporters_in_0916.html
Published: Sep 16, 2006
Author: David Edwards
Post Date: 2006-09-16 23:16:31 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 213
Comments: 15

Olbermann: Bush's 'rush' to redefine Geneva Conventions may be mostly about 'covering his own backside'

David Edwards
Published: Saturday September 16, 2006

Keith Olbermann's Friday broadcast on MSNBC featured a long look at the President's contentious Rose Garden press conference on Friday, dubbing it the "Roast Garden," and then pondered whether Bush's urgency to redefine the Geneva Convention had more to do with "covering his own backside" than anything else.

At a Friday press conference, an animated President Bush tells reporters that the U.S. program to interrogate terrorist suspects will not continue unless Congress creates new legal definitions for Common Article 3 or the Geneva Conventions -- a move that has alarmed some GOP senators and former Secretary of State Colin Powell.

Bush also devoted his Saturday radio address to the issue.

In video of the Friday presser, a visibly angry President raises his voice as responds to reporters' questions.

NBC White House Correspondent David Gregory asks the President how he would react if American officers were interrogated based on another country's own re-interpreted version of the Geneva Conventions. Without answering the question, Bush says, "We can debate this issue all we want but the practical matter is if our professionals do not have clear standards in the law, the program will not go forward."

Further pressed by Gregory for an answer, Bush raises his voice and says, "You can ask this question all you want but the bottom line is -- and the American people have got to understand this -- that this program won't go forward... if there are vague standards applied like those in Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions. It's just not going to go forward. Now, perhaps some in Congress don't think the program is important. That's fine."

Afterward, Georgetown University Constitutional Law Professor Jonathan Turley joined Keith Olbermann for a discussion on why the president was in such a hurry to get the legislation passed "his way."

Turley agreed with Olbermann that Bush's primary motive might be in "covering his own backside."

Turley noted that the 14 high level detainees recently transferred to Guantanamo Bay are due to be interviewed by the Red Cross, and that "most people believe that they will reveal that they were subject to water boarding - held under water until you think that you are going to drown - that is undeniably torture under the international standard."

"I think that the Administration senses that there is a lot of trouble coming down the mountain," said Turley.

See the video from Keith Olbermann's "Countdown" show on MSNBC:

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#1. To: robin (#0)

At a Friday press conference, an animated President Bush

'Animated' is an understatement. I'd call it 'vitriolic', or 'piqued'.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2006-09-17   0:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

He gets spastic when he's cornered.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   8:06:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

The US president calling a press conference demanding to be allowed to torture and crack skulls as he pleases or... America ends?

20 years ago, if some astrologer or channeler predicted this for 2006, 'they' would have confined her to a mental institution for being 'clearly out there'.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2006-09-17   8:25:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

Today you are more apt to be arrested if you complain about the govt's use of torture. e.g. Bollyn, Palast

The Neo-sheviks are determined to make US into the kind of govt they understand best.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   8:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Morgana le Fay, angle, Jethro Tull (#0)

"Roast Garden" ping

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   9:25:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#0)

"I think that the Administration senses that there is a lot of trouble coming down the mountain," said Turley.

May it be a mudslide that drowns the perps in a disaster of their own making.

angle  posted on  2006-09-17   9:33:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

hey, avrwc, welcome to 4.

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   10:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

Hey, old-time-ex-freeper, where ya been posting all this time? Welcome to 4!

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-09-17   10:15:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#7)

Thanks, I thought I'd interact with some familiar characters of good repute.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2006-09-17   10:42:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Arator (#8)

Thanks.

I got a job too, you know? But I contributed to LP and LF, with some gaps.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2006-09-17   10:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)

I thought I'd interact with some familiar characters of good repute.

interesting wording ;)

Welcome!

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   10:44:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin (#2)

He gets spastic when he's cornered.

These days he gets cornered a lot.

Rabbi Bush does not stutter well.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-09-17   10:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin, All (#0)

The Geneva Conventions are an international treaty; it's not up to U.S. law to "re-define" anything. By definition, U.S. treaties are an extension of the U.S. Constitution. (Anybody get it?)

Under the Geneva Conventions, if there is any doubt as to a prisoner's status, they are a POW, until AFTER a status determination tribunal.

Getting caught with an AK-47 in Afghanistan - or anywhere in the Middle East - is like getting caught with toilet paper in America. "Re-labeling" a prisoner as a 'terrorist' doesn't manufacture a new reality.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-17   11:51:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: SKYDRIFTER (#13)

how come the bastard gets away with it then? cuz he's merely a puppet for the NWO and there seems to be no real law or accountability anywhere.

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   12:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Christine, All (#14)

how come the bastard gets away with it then? cuz he's merely a puppet for the NWO and there seems to be no real law or accountability anywhere.

What mouse is big enough to 'bell' the NWO (Bush Cabal) cat?

No different than Hitler rising to power - even the original Nazi 'formula' is being used, with minor changes to out-do Hitler's record (mistakes).

It must be asked, "Is Nazism 'bad,' if Jews control it?"


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-17   13:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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