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Title: 911 Mysteries - DEMOLITIONS Video Part 1-3. No one could watch these and not be convinced that the WTC towers were brought down with EXPLOSIVES and that 911 is an INSIDE JOB
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#16. To: robin (#9)
Check this out, my lady. I recall reading somewhere that what ultimately convinced Prof. Steve Jones of the impossibility of the official story of the collapse, was precisely this sort of quantitative study of the amount of energy required for the Towers to collapse in the time they did and in the manner they did.
And the floors went around the core. Where's the steel core?
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Also, the records on: The $2.3-6 trillion that went missing from DoD, that Rummie announced on 9.10.01. The records on Enron, WorldCom, GlobalCrossing, and who knows what else the SEC was investigating. The records on the OKC bombing, and who knows what other FBI records. There were many happy campers to see all that information go away - poof! And those are the ones that just popped to mind here.
And the bomb sniffing dogs at WTC were removed just days before 9/11. Of course, we already know that President's brother Marvin Bush (1996-2000) and then cousin Wirt D. Walker (2000-2002) were Principal and CEO of Securacom the company that had the security contract for the WTC and Dulles airport. And the power was down in both buildings the entire weekend before 9/11. Which means the cameras/security were essentially all off. Supposedly internet cables were being upgraded.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Where's the steel core? That's a question they always fudge on the government side, isn't it? Even if we accept the government contention, repeated ad nauseam by 911 Truth opponents as though it were a magic charm, that "steel loses half its strength at X degrees," how could the entire core have been heated to that temperature by fires, however intense, on some upper floors? From what I understand, there was a longer lasting fire that was at least as intense on a lower floor or floors in WTC 1 in 1975, and yet the core wasn't "weakened" so that the thing came down like a house of cards, was it? Now that I'm on a "roll" :P....what about the 1993 WTC explosions? How much energy was released in that explosion or explosions compared to the maximum amount that could have been released by the impact of the planes and subsequent fires? (Gee, I wish I had taken more than one physics class...! They had a one year math and science requirement at Columbia but I just took "Calculus A"---or as we called it, "Dummy Calculus"---and Physics 101---or as we called it, "Poets' Physics"...:P)
Yep, and some SEC records. Not to mention Paul O'Neill. 911 = Who Killed John O'Neill = a must for Patriots http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935 And the buildings were losing the Port Authority lots of $$. The cleanup for the removal of the asbestos was estimated at $1 billion. What a bonanza!
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein World Trade Center lease 7 World Trade Center Main article: 7 World Trade Center In 1980 Larry Silverstein won a bid to buy the last undeveloped parcel from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to build 47-story 7 World Trade Center. [edit] World Trade Center Main article: World Trade Center During the 1990s, New York was suffering from the effects of Black Monday (1987) leading to high vacancy rates at the World Trade Center. George Pataki became governor of New York in 1995 on a campaign of cutting costs including privatizing the World Trade Center. A sale of the property was considered too complex, so it was decided by the Port Authority to open a 99-year lease to competitive bidding. [2] In January 2001, Silverstein, via Silverstein Properties and Westfield America, made a $3.2 billion bid for the lease to the World Trade Center. Silverstein was outbid by $50 million by Vornado Realty, with Boston Properties and Brookfield Properties also competing for the lease. However, Vornado withdrew and Silverstein's bid for the lease to the World Trade Center was accepted on July 24, 2001, seven weeks before the buildings were destroyed in the September 11, 2001 attacks. This was the first time in the building's 31-year history the complex had changed ownership[citation needed]. The deal was described in a press release on July 24, 2001: "Silverstein Properties, Inc., and Westfield America, Inc. will lease the Twin Towers and other portions of the complex in a deal worth approximately $3.2 billion – the city's richest real estate deal ever and one of the largest privatization initiatives in history. [3]" The lease agreement applied to World Trade Center Buildings One, Two, Four and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet of retail space. Silverstein put up only $14 million of his own money [4]. Silverstein was also given the right to rebuild the structures, should they be destroyed. [5] September 11, 2001 attacks When the attacks occurred at 9:30AM, Silverstein was at home debating with his wife about plans to move his headquarters to the 88th floor of the North Tower (One World Trade Center). His son Roger was at 7 World Trade Center but was not hurt. [citation needed] Dispute with Insurers As a private developer with a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center, Silverstein insured the property. Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, he sought payment for the destruction of the towers as two incidents. The two dozen insurers held that it was one incident. If it were considered to be a single incident, the payout would be $3.55 billion and if it were two incidents, it would be $7.1 billion. Silverstein sued the insurers. On December 6, 2004, a federal jury ruled in favor of Silverstein giving him an additional $1.1 billion from nine insurers, declaring it to be two "occurrences". [6] However, in a previous trial, a different federal jury delivered a mixed verdict which highly favored insurers on April 29, 2004 [7] At dispute in the trial were interpretation of standard forms used in the application for property insurance and when particular insurers saw which documents.[8] In total, Silverstein was awarded nearly $5 billion in insurance money following the destruction of the Twin Towers [9]. He plans to use some or all of the settlement to rebuild. [10] Negotiations to rebuild at the World Trade Center site Silverstein had the legal right to rebuild office buildings including the Freedom Tower at the World Trade Center site and while the site is unoccupied, he continues to pay $10 million per month in rent to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. After several months of negotiation, in April 2006 he yielded some of those rights back to the Port Authority. Ground was broken on the construction of the Freedom Tower on April 27, 2006. [11] What had prevented the construction from starting earlier was the lack of financing. The proceeds of the insurance payments from the destruction of the previous buildings alone were insufficient to cover the cost of rebuilding all the planned buildings. After the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the United States Congress approved $8 billion in tax-exempt Liberty Bonds to fund development in the private sector at lower-than-market interest rates. $3.4 billion remained unallocated in March 2006 designated for Lower Manhattan, with about half of the funds under the control of Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the other half under the control of Governor George Pataki. Negotiations were held to obtain concessions from Silverstein in exchange for allocating the Liberty Bonds to the World Trade Center rebuilding. The concessions were to give back to the Port Authority: rights to build and operate the Freedom Tower and another office tower, a share of the insurance payments, and not to contest the allocation to the Port Authority of Liberty Bonds. The Port Authority, a public agency, already has the ability to issue its own tax-exempt debt. The Port Authority will have its proposal in final form in September 2006. In return, the Liberty Bond funds were allocated to Silverstein and government agencies will be anchor tenants in his three office towers. This allows construction to commence. In summary, Silverstein retains rights for Towers Two, Three, and Four. The Freedom Tower (designated as Tower One) will be owned by the Port Authority as well as Tower Five which may be leased out to another private developer and redesigned as a residential building.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers To do this those killing all the people in this event had to view this as some sort of ritualistic sacrifice. I mean think about it; murderers get a nut from killing. That nut must be controlled and hidden. Are the rituals of the rich and powerful at places like Bohemian grove meant to help those who deal in life and death decisions find outlets for the intense rush and exhilaration of knowing what you did killed thousands of innocent people were unavoidable collateral damage offed to try to maintain plausible denial that anything but the diversionary and panic - kick the ant hill - plane crashes did the demolition work they had ample motive to need to get done to do this false flag operation. We should look at the actions of leaders and who were financial benefactors of this event and see if they made Freudian slips, acted strange and were different then normal emotionally. After looking at this, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find those who had gone to Bohemian Grove events acted and functioned far better then those who did not. Which goes to show you that no matter how much data has been compiled and analyzed, there are always new ways to look at these events for clues, and many things that have not been examined to see other clues and evidence to support the findings coming out of what really happened on 9-11.
I didn't know that Lars was the developer of 7 from the get go.
After looking at this, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find those who had gone to Bohemian Grove events acted and functioned far better then those who did not. Now there's a study we shall never see! An interesting premise! Regarding Freudian slips, or at least slips, Larry Silverstein accidently slipped that he told them "to pull it" (bldg 7). He later went through some convoluted gyrations trying to explain why he said "pull it". It's a phrase used in demolitions. And, IMO Silverstein is a very small player in this Greek tragedy. Then there's dementia patient Rumsfeld. He used the word missile instead of plane for what hit the Pentagon. Ooops! http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html Q: This is a question that's been asked by many Americans, but especially by the widows of September 11th. How were we so asleep at the switch? How did a war targeting civilians arrive on our homeland with seemingly no warning? Rumsfeld: There were lots of warnings. The intelligence information that we get, it sometimes runs into the hundreds of alerts or pieces of intelligence a week. One looks at the worldwide, it's thousands. And the task is to sort through it and see what you can find. And as you find things, the law enforcement officials who have the responsibility to deal with that type of thing -- the FBI at the federal level, and although it is not, it's an investigative service as opposed to a police force, it's not a federal police force, as you know. But the state and local law enforcement officials have the responsibility for dealing with those kinds of issues. They [find a lot] and any number of terrorist efforts have been dissuaded, deterred or stopped by good intelligence gathering and good preventive work. It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them. speaking of nuts.... http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn09092006.html The nuts simultaneously credit their targets – the Bush-Cheney “conspirators” -- with superhuman ingenuity and grotesque carelessness. In Webster Griffin Tarpley’s book “9/11 Synthetic Terror Made in USA” he writes that “in an interview with Parade magazine, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld also referred to the object which hit the Pentagon as a ‘missile’. Was this a Freudian slip by the loquacious defense chief?” (And, a nut might add, is it mere coincidence that Webster Griffin Tarpley shares one of his names with David Ray Griffin? The demolition scenario is classic who-moved-the-stonery. The WTC towers didn’t fall down because they were badly built as a consequence of corruption, incompetence, regulatory evasions by the Port Authority, and because they were struck by huge planes loaded with jet fuel. No, they fell because Dick Cheney’s agents methodically planted demolition charges in the preceding days. It was a conspiracy of thousands, all of whom –- party to mass murder –- have held their tongues ever since. The “conspiracy” is always open-ended as to the number of conspirators, widening steadily to include all the people involved in the execution and cover-up of the demolition of the Towers and the onsslaujght on the Pentagon, from the teams acquiring the explosives and themissile, inserting the explosives in the relevant floors of three vast buildings, (moving day after day among the unsuspecting office workers), then on 9/11 activating the detonators. Subsequently the conspiracy includes the disposers of the steel and rubble, the waste recyclers in Staten Island and perhaps even the Chinese who took the salvaged incriminating metal for use in the Three Gorges dam, where it will submerged in water and concretye for ever. Tens of thousands of people, all silent as the tomb to this day. Of course the buildings didn’t suddenly fall at a speed inexplicable in terms of physics unless caused by carefully pre-placed explosives, detonated by the ruthless Bush-Cheney operatives. High grade steel can bend disastrously under extreme heat. People inside who survived the collapse didn’t hear a series of explosions. As discussed in Wayne Barrett and Dan Collin’s excellent book Grand Illusion, about Rudy Giuliani and 9/11, helicopter pilots radioed warnings nine minutes before the final collapse that the South Tower might well go down and, repeatedly, as much as 25 minutes before the North Tower’s fall.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers interesting post, Mike, one need only look at the expression on bush's face when told about the second WTC building to see he knew. that was not a normal reaction for anyone much less the POTUS who just learned his country was under attack. he's an evil luciferian.
"Something will happen if enough of us know" Thanks christine, that 3 part video was really well done.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Remember how Bush is known to really get very strange when the condemned died in Texas. Death is something that almost gives him a sexual charge. He likely has trouble controlling himself and the staged, "act normal" media bite was to prevent an inappropriate emotion emitting POTUS from running in a strangely bemused fashion. They know his weaknesses, and they had him flown around not to protect him from terror attack, but to give him a chance to pull himself together enough to preform publicly. I also believe that Bush Senior and Jr. have actually not 'been buddied up inexplicably ' with Clinton, but have used him for advice on public appearances and other things he's good at, and he has something on them and is using them for his benefit because Bubba knows stuff that could blow the lid off the official 9-11 story. I believe both adversaries are using each other for mutual benefit. Think about it, two groups so adversarial about power holding do not get in bed unless one played a gambit, the other produced one as damning, and they worked their way out of a Mexican standoff in a way both benefit. An example of something interesting to look at is how Kerry acts like someone who has been assured certain help getting renominated and winning in 2008 from a fellow Bonesman, and Clinton knows this and is trying to take down a formidable obstacle to Hilary's chances of getting him back into the obit of power he misses. Is something going on in this vein? It would be interesting if it was. George W Bush gets off on death and was flown around to protect him from himself. They knew more about what had happened enough to control the placement and size of the Pentagon impact, so bringing the first Dupe back would have not been a risk. Having people see this vain like to fart in people's face dweeb giggling about the biggest Bohemian Grove type sacrifice in ages would have been though. The way Bush Jr. pissed away goodwill after 9-11 made Clinton's services more attractive and with what Clinton knows he's going to get his fingers in the pie - that's how he is - and you might as well put him to work and hope you do well against him in the behind the scenes power plays that just have to be going on. And that everyone gets something out of it - as long as the lie about 9-11 remains protected and safe until the perps can at lease be more dignified in running away if they ultimately are forced to actually flee from the heat of undeniable truth fully getting out.
Suggestion; watch that Friday press conference again. Don't listen to Bush's words, listen to his emotional release. What is it trying to say? Many liars will shake their head 'no' and say yes. What is his emotional state trying to contradict? Is something going to be happening soon involving sacrificial death? We should watch carefully because things like the way Bush acted Friday scare me.
Probably.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Now you're scaring me. He was very tense and very defensive. So, if we're going to look at this from a "vibe" level, and if he has unnatural vibes about death, we should keep an eye on his next scheduled public appearances. Unless they decide to leave him at home next time. Or maybe even hide from him some of the details. Now there's a thought.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers A few weeks ago I was traveling through a local town a few minutes after school was over. I couldn't believe what I saw. There was a high school student standing on a corner with a sign that read 'Free DVDS : Learn the truth about 911" I don't know what movie it was, but I suspect it was Loose Change.
formerly GJones.
Remember that little confident sneer, "I'm not going to loose" Mike Moore used in his Fahrenheit film? I believe he was telling the truth there in an arrogant way knowing the Diebold and Florida cards he had in his hand. It never hurts to read emotions and how people like him speak and to interpret things about his speech. If you have people good enough at doing so you reverse some of the disadvantage these people leave us with how well the shadow government people hide information. Indie, you should be good at reading people; read the last few posts here and I am curious as to if you agree on any of the thinking here.
The people doing the best read people the best, watch Jones work, he reads people as easily as a bat uses radar in the dark. Allot of time people are at the most unease when they are picking up something on one level, and the official story says something else. We are now in luck we have the Internet and the media and audiovisual tools we have kept all the evidence of what really happened at the attack sites on 9-11. We are able to reach many people and the networking of investigation and correlation of evidence scares the crap out of who did this. We will see the Internet shackled and neutered for being the messenger on this one unless we take out the liars more ruthlessly then these people do in reaction to the public increasingly learning the truth. They have an advantage; they know what happened. We spend energy investigating and educating, they spend all their considerable resources and influence toward the end of thwarting the truth getting out and neutralizing and scattering their enemies. We live in perilous times, and things are going to happen very rapidly relatively soon.
Anybody who watches this entire thing, and still believes in the government fairy tale is either braindead or a traitor. It's obvious our government orchestrated the demolition and brought the buildings down. If Americans were to ever wake up, and realize this, the civil war following would be unimaginable. And it could happen, even prior to the coming financial and economic collapse of the country. And on a sidenote,Brig. General Partin stated "The Murrah Federal Building was not destroyed by one sole truck bomb. The major factor in its destruction appears to have been detonation of explosives carefully placed at four critical junctures on supporting columns within the building." Again, our wonderful government at work. And in the 1993 world trade center bombing, the FBI spent $3 million of our tax money to blow up the World Trade Center. And, with Waco and the MOVE bombings, our wonderful government murdered woman, children, old men, and old women. I concluded long ago, our government is a terrorist cabal. It matters not which party is in power at all. As this terrorist act by our government unfolds, I guess we'll be busy here documenting the sudden heart attacks and suicides of healthy freedom loving patriots who continue to expose the acts of our government. Our founders would have already stormed the gates of powers and hung them all. It is sad and heart wrenching that more Americans cannot see.
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I just got to the part in Part3 where they discuss Marvin Bush and his security company, and I just now, for the first time, learned that they had performed 8 million dollars worth of security work in the WTC between 1996 and 2000. I used to work for a company on Long Island and I had done work for companies in the WTC in the 80s. My old boss related a story to me sometime in 1995 or 96 I think, about how he lost the contract to do that work. It didn't make sense to him at the time, or to me, but now maybe it makes a little more sense. He said that sometime during the process of finalizing agreements, he said to whomever he was working with at the Port Auhthority, something like, "Have your girl send it over..." or something like that, but he used the word girl referring to the guy's secretary. The guy took huge offense to that, and my old boss blamed that on his not getting that contract. He's passed away in the mean time, but I am going to call his son tomorrow to get more info, like, how far along were they in the process? Did they win the bid and lose it? Stuff like that. I would have run that job for them on a per diem, that's why we were discussing it. I had left Long Island to move to CT in 1986, but had stayed in touch with them. This guy was very well connected in NYC. He handled a lot of specialized projects for Merill Lynch, Chemical Bank, Eastern Airlines, TWA, a couple of Israeli Banks, Bank Hapolim and Bank Leume(sp?), we did work for the Port Authority... he was connected with all sorts of retired FBI, CIA, Military people, working as security directors for all these places. He was IN with them, bigtime. And he losed an 8 million dollar job for saying "girl"? We did things that nobody did at the time, or I should say, I did them, because he would tell them it could be done, and then come to me and say, we have to do this. LMAO!!! I made shit you wouldn't believe. In fact, I credit myself for making the first through the door video/intercom system ever. We unveiled it a security show in NY sometime around 1982. I made it AFTER he told Bank Hapolim that we could do it. lol. Now I can't say that what happened to him is any kind of bombshell, because this started in 1996 and ended, it seems, even before Bush took office, but... Wow, this is messed up. lol
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
See Post 36
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
I have been trying to find the "flame speed" for kerosene in what would have been it's partially atomized state after inpact just to compare it to the flame speed of TNT, wich the believers of the Official Fairy Tale ™ like to relate as being comparable to X number of tons of TNT. The flame speed of a TNT explosion is 27,000 feet per second. I highly doubt that atomized kerosene comes withing 5% of that. I searched and searched with google but haven't found anything on kerosene flame speed. Gasoline, yes, kerosene, no.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
He was very tense and defensive because his ass is in the sling and ain't no way he's gonna recover.
Very interesting insights, Critter. Please, keep us informed about what you find out. It would seem that the Bush-Clinton cabal had 9-11 in the works since the mid- nineties. The plot thickens....
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what a wonderful post. you articulated my feelings exactly.
pinging JT to your and UB's posts.
mike, i watched some of it. he looks and acts mad.
Exactly. That is my point. Something is tearing him up, something he is conflicted on and something that is going to happen soon has him as worked up as a drop kicked hornet's nest. My guess is they know enough about a planned attack to be interested in using it for cover like they did in New York and Washington, D.C., but need much more information about it in order to successfully dovetail in their operations into it to make them work for them. Or there is a power play and factions in his 'administration'/crime syndicate are looking for direction and he needs information to be a better advocate for an attack on Iran. Whatever it is getting him so strangely aroused emotionally, it is a dangerous reaction coming from an insane self serving and unpredictable man. I am worried about the near future.
Also interesting during that segment was the cousin of Bush.
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All in the family. hehehe
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And he's as successful as Bush in business. 8-) Wirt D. Walker III is Chairman, President, and CEO of Aviation General, Inc., 2000-present, a holding company for two subsidiaries: Commander Aircraft Company, (single engine Commander aircraft manufacturer, plus consulting, brokerage and refurbishment services for piston aircraft), and Strategic Jet Services, Inc.(which ceased operations in 12/02), and at the time provided consulting, brokerage and refurbishment services for jet aircraft. Aviation General is currently in Chapter 7 Bankruptcy. The attempts at bringing Aviation General (Commander Aircraft) out of bankruptcy were made. Tiger Aircraft provided DIP financing for Commander Aircraft for several months before backing out of the deal for undisclosed reasons. This was followed up by a similar, although shorter lived situation with Pilot General Aviation LLC who also backed out of the deal for undisclosed reasons. Walker was also Chairman and CEO of Stratesec from 1999 to the company's liquidation in 003. He had served as a director of the company since 1987. Starting in 1982, Mr. Walker has been the Managing Director of Kuwait-American Corporation, a private investment firm, that was the main financier of both of the above companies. Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
Everyone should also remember that there were crews in for the previous 3 to 4 months working on the alleged sprinkler systems, which is why they all seemingly and mysteriously failed to work.
pancaking it should have taken over 90 seconds, not 9.
#17. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#16)
#18. To: robin (#13)
And the $17 billion CA electricity swindle disappeared with building #7.
#19. To: All (#13)
#20. To: robin (#17)
And the floors went around the core.
#21. To: lodwick (#18)
#22. To: lodwick (#12)
#23. To: robin (#21)
#24. To: robin (#22)
Thanks for the research.
#25. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
We should look at the actions of leaders and who were financial benefactors of this event and see if they made Freudian slips, acted strange and were different then normal emotionally.
#26. To: Ferret Mike (#23)
#27. To: All, christine (#25)
#28. To: christine, robin (#26)
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"one need only look at the expression on bush's face when told about the second WTC building to see he knew. that was not a normal reaction for anyone much less the POTUS who just learned his country was under attack. he's an evil luciferian."
#29. To: christine, robin (#26)
#30. To: Ferret Mike (#28)
I believe both adversaries are using each other for mutual benefit. Think about it, two groups so adversarial about power holding do not get in bed unless one played a gambit, the other produced one as damning, and they worked their way out of a Mexican standoff in a way both benefit.
#31. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
#32. To: ALL (#31)
#33. To: robin, IndieTX (#31)
"So, if we're going to look at this from a "vibe" level, and if he has unnatural vibes about death, we should keep an eye on his next scheduled public appearances."
#34. To: robin, IndieTX, christine (#31)
"Alex Jones predicted the 9/11 attack in a July 2001 television taping when he warned that the Globalists were going to attack New York and blame it on their asset Osama bin Laden."
#35. To: christine (#0)
#36. To: christine, Honway, Uncle Bill (#0)
#37. To: Ferret Mike, InsideJob, Robin (#36)
Which goes to show you that no matter how much data has been compiled and analyzed, there are always new ways to look at these events for clues,
#38. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#20)
what about the 1993 WTC explosions? How much energy was released in that explosion or explosions compared to the maximum amount that could have been released by the impact of the planes and subsequent fires?
#39. To: robin (#31)
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#40. To: Critter, *Restore the Republic* (#36)
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Now I can't say that what happened to him is any kind of bombshell, because this started in 1996 and ended, it seems, even before Bush took office, but...
#41. To: Uncle Bill (#35)
#42. To: Critter, Jethro Tull, Uncle Bill (#36)
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
#44. To: christine (#43)
"mike, i watched some of it. he looks and acts mad."
#45. To: Critter (#36)
#46. To: Critter (#38)
"Controlled demolition would have required unimpeded access to the WTC, access to explosives, avoiding detection, and the expertise to orchestrate the deadly destruction from a nearby secure location. Such access before 9/11 likely depended on complicity by one or more WTC security companies. These companies focus on "access control" and as security specialist Wayne Black says, "When you have a security contract, you know the inner workings of everything." Stratesec, a now-defunct company that had security contracts at the World Trade Center and Dulles International Airport, should be investigated, among others, because of the strange coincidence that President Bush’s brother, Marvin P. Bush, and his cousin, Wirt D. Walker III, were principals in the company, with Walker acting as CEO from 1999 until January 2002 and Marvin reportedly in New York on 9/11. At least one report claims that a "power down" condition prevailed on September 8–9 (pdf, p. 45) at WTC to complete a "cabling upgrade," presenting an opportunity to plant explosives with low risk of detection."
#47. To: Uncle Bill (#45)
Also interesting during that segment was the cousin of Bush.
#48. To: Critter (#47)
Wirt D. Walker III
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#49. To: Uncle Bill (#46)
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#50. To: christine (#0)
According to our illustrious leaders, and commander in chief, anyone who entertains these "Conspiracy Theories" is siding with the terrorists, and should consider themselves ALSO a terrorist. Heard something to that effect today on the radio which truly chilled me. I cannot believe that people are getting worked up over this. More importantly, I cannot believe that THE PEOPLE aren't getting worked up over something.
| What's that Mr. Nipples? You want me to ask the nice lady about her rack?. |
#51. To: Critter (#47)
MARVIN BUSH EMPLOYEE'S MYSTERIOUS DEATH – Connections to 9/11 Some observers wondered if Secret Service agents might have been able to assist Champagne when her car pinned her. According to the Secret Service in Washington, the agency only provides protection to presidential siblings if an Executive Order authorizes such action. A Secret Service spokesperson emphasized there is no current Secret Service protection for Marvin Bush. However, there remains a question why private security agents posted at the Bush compound could not have responded to Champagne's distress. There are also questions concerning Champagne's actual place of residence. According to the Post story, Bush told police that Champagne resided at their compound, However, a phone call to the directory-listed residence of Bertha Champagne in Franconia, Virginia resulted in Mrs. Champagne's son answering the phone. He confirmed that his mother lived at the Franconia address but he was clearly uncomfortable and nervous in talking to the media about the circumstances surrounding his mother's death.
"A Houston businessman who worked closely with the Bush family over the years confided that Marvin Bush and Wirt Walker appear to have taken over the Saudi real estate investment and aircraft brokerage business once run out of Texas by Houston-based James Bath in association with Salem bin Laden, the late brother of Osama bin Laden, and Khalid bin Mahfouz. The source, who has dealt personally with the Bush family in Houston for a number of years, said there should be skepticism when looking at bizarre deaths like that of Champagne. The source speculated that Champagne might have happened upon some sensitive information the Bush family wanted kept secret.
The Clinotn's and the Bush's = DEATH
Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
#52. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#50)
White House Targets Conspiracy Theorists As Terrorist Recruiters Screw the bastards!
Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation
#53. To: christine (#0)
'Just watched all three. Wow. I will be ordering the DVD's. This one really does it for me. 'Love the narrator. Damn, I can't keep up with this new stuff. I just made two hundred copies of Terror Storm and Loose Change. Now, I think this one followed by Terror Storm may be a better hand out.
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“Why should they, the Americans, have trusted us? We were a bunch of Russians, socialist Russians.” -- Isser Harel, former head of Mossad, speaking of the unlikely union between America and the Marxist state of Israel.
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“They were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.” -- Excerpt of a police report concerning the arrest of 5 Israeli intelligence operatives after they were seen by witnesses filming the destruction of the Twin Towers in New York and cheering.
#54. To: Uncle Bill, hmmmmmm (#48)
I was looking for info on the Stratesec liquidation, since it would be VERY strange, in this day and age for a security company to go bust. I wasn't sure if this "liquidation" was the result of a bankruptcy or what so I started googling... I don't find much, so far, but I did find this which is interesting: From http://www.secinfo.com/dS7kv.319.c.htm? Find=Kamran+Hashemi&Line=63#Line63 I wonder who this Kamran Hashemi fellow is? I googled the name and get a shit pile of results. One intersting result can be found here, and it includes this: Things that make you go hmmmmm....
Walker was also Chairman and CEO of Stratesec from 1999 to the company's liquidation in 003. He had served as a director of the company since 1987.
Stratesec Incorporated and Kamran Hashemi agree to settle the outstanding Stratesec lawsuit and any existing or potential claims against Stratesec, Incorporated by Kamran Hashemi based on the following conditions...
Mr. Hashemi of Iran is a Legal Officer with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Iran, where his responsibilities include matters related to the law of the sea, international organized crime and international terrorism. He intends to devote his study during the fellowship period to either an intensive course on recent developments in the law of the sea or to undertake advanced research on the subject of crimes at sea. Mr. Hashemi holds a Masters degree in international relations, with a focus on crimes at sea.
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
#55. To: Uncle Bill (#51)
Getting closer: From: IBL Troubled Company Reprter They were in SERIOUS trouble in 2003: http://www.secinfo.com/dS7kv.2s.h tm#f2v STRATESEC INC: Fails to Meet AMEX Continued Listing Guidelines
The Company is in litigation on two material lawsuits. The first is American Express versus STRATESEC, for non-payment in the amount of $556,449. The Company is challenging the amount owed. The second lawsuit is Frito-Lay versus STRATESEC for return of funds paid to STRATESEC on a terminated contract in the amount of $98,000. In addition, there is a judgment against the Company for $90,000 for non-payment to a subcontractor. The lawsuit was filed by Minority Contractors of Dallas, Texas. As of December 31, 2002, The Company has accrued $744,449 for settlement of these matters and approximately $8,000 for related legal fees
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
#56. To: christine (#4)
And, that phone conversation with the guy talking to the fire department when all hell breaks loose. Damn, that was spooky... him yelling while the collapse begins. We owe it to him to hang these bastards. I sware, I'm into this to the end. May God forgive us. Now, where do I get the DVD? I've got work to do.
"...this one is it. the narration is done by a female who speaks slowly and clearly..."
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“Why should they, the Americans, have trusted us? We were a bunch of Russians, socialist Russians.” -- Isser Harel, former head of Mossad, speaking of the unlikely union between America and the Marxist state of Israel.
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“They were seen by New Jersey residents on Sept. 11 making fun of the World Trade Center ruins and going to extreme lengths to photograph themselves in front of the wreckage.” -- Excerpt of a police report concerning the arrest of 5 Israeli intelligence operatives after they were seen by witnesses filming the destruction of the Twin Towers in New York and cheering.
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