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Title: 911 Mysteries - DEMOLITIONS Video Part 1-3. No one could watch these and not be convinced that the WTC towers were brought down with EXPLOSIVES and that 911 is an INSIDE JOB
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Published: Sep 17, 2006
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Post Date: 2006-09-17 11:06:49 by christine
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Views: 5315
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Part 1

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#4. To: LACUMO (#3)

well worth it, Lacumo. IMO, if there is any worth purchasing to pass around, this one is it. the narration is done by a female who speaks slowly and clearly. also, there is information in it that i had never seen before...for example, "the slurry walls beneath the WTC buildings."

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   11:41:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#4)

well worth it, Lacumo. IMO, if there is any worth purchasing to pass around, this one is it. the narration is done by a female who speaks slowly and clearly. also, there is information in it that i had never seen before...for example, "the slurry walls beneath the WTC buildings."

I bookmarked the site where I can purchase the video. will do so tomorrow. Thanks again!

LACUMO

LACUMO  posted on  2006-09-17   11:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#2)

"What happened to the core?"

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   12:42:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#1)

http://www.911blogger.com

The site above has all kinds of online dvds and lectures.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2006-09-17   12:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Kamala (#7)

good stuff..i saw that 4 was linked on a post on that page.

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   12:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#6)

and what about all those squibs going off in advance of the falling building, insuring a freefall time?

pancaking it should have taken over 90 seconds, not 9.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   13:02:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: robin (#9)

and what about the granite panels and windows of the lobby on ground floor being blown to smithereens when the plane hit 70+ floors above? and how was it that Felipe's, a worker on a subbasement floor, face and arms were blown nearly off mere minutes before the plane hit?

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   13:07:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: christine, lodwick (#10)

And the prophet Larry Silverstein took out terrorist insurance just before.

He then sued for double the amount, claiming that since 2 planes struck, that constituted 2 terrorist events, and he won $7 billion on a $15 million investment.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   13:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: robin, everyone here (#11)

...and he won $7 billion on a $15 million investment.

I believe I just read that there's still a hush-hush trial going on regarding Lars' payday and whether he gets any jack.

Lod  posted on  2006-09-17   13:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: All (#11)

And then there's Bldg 7.

A classic crimp, the center column blown first, to insure the building folds in (not out). A hallmark of all demolitions.

And the $17 billion CA electricity swindle disappeared with building #7.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   14:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lodwick (#12)

I'll look around loddy. A prophet like Larry deserves more careful study.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   14:04:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#10) (Edited)

and what about the granite panels and windows of the lobby on ground floor being blown to smithereens when the plane hit 70+ floors above?

You already know chris, 9/11 Truth savante that you are, that there's a very good engineering study by Jim Hoffman demonstrating that the amount of energy needed for the production of the dust clouds following the collapse of the Towers was far in excess of the quanta that could have been provided by the plane impacts and fuel burning plus the potential energy of the buildings released by gravitational force.

I wonder if a similar study could be done of the amount of energy required to have caused the damage in the lobbies before the collapse, and whether the impact of the planes and explosion of the fuel (assuming of course that the objects hitting the Towers actually were the plane models carrying the fuel load the official narrative says they were) can or cannot be ruled out as its cause given the law of conservation of energy. Maybe given the destruction of the Towers directly after that damage, and the deliberate destruction of forensic evidence afterwards, there's not enough data any more, but still I'm curious... :)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-17   14:10:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#9)

pancaking it should have taken over 90 seconds, not 9.

Check this out, my lady. I recall reading somewhere that what ultimately convinced Prof. Steve Jones of the impossibility of the official story of the collapse, was precisely this sort of quantitative study of the amount of energy required for the Towers to collapse in the time they did and in the manner they did.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-17   14:14:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#16)

And the floors went around the core.

Where's the steel core?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   14:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#13)

And the $17 billion CA electricity swindle disappeared with building #7.

Also, the records on:

The $2.3-6 trillion that went missing from DoD, that Rummie announced on 9.10.01.

The records on Enron, WorldCom, GlobalCrossing, and who knows what else the SEC was investigating.

The records on the OKC bombing, and who knows what other FBI records.

There were many happy campers to see all that information go away - poof!

And those are the ones that just popped to mind here.

Lod  posted on  2006-09-17   14:25:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: All (#13)

And the bomb sniffing dogs at WTC were removed just days before 9/11.

Of course, we already know that President's brother Marvin Bush (1996-2000) and then cousin Wirt D. Walker (2000-2002) were Principal and CEO of Securacom the company that had the security contract for the WTC and Dulles airport.

And the power was down in both buildings the entire weekend before 9/11. Which means the cameras/security were essentially all off.

Supposedly internet cables were being upgraded.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   14:27:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#17)

And the floors went around the core.

Where's the steel core?

That's a question they always fudge on the government side, isn't it? Even if we accept the government contention, repeated ad nauseam by 911 Truth opponents as though it were a magic charm, that "steel loses half its strength at X degrees," how could the entire core have been heated to that temperature by fires, however intense, on some upper floors? From what I understand, there was a longer lasting fire that was at least as intense on a lower floor or floors in WTC 1 in 1975, and yet the core wasn't "weakened" so that the thing came down like a house of cards, was it?

Now that I'm on a "roll" :P....what about the 1993 WTC explosions? How much energy was released in that explosion or explosions compared to the maximum amount that could have been released by the impact of the planes and subsequent fires? (Gee, I wish I had taken more than one physics class...! They had a one year math and science requirement at Columbia but I just took "Calculus A"---or as we called it, "Dummy Calculus"---and Physics 101---or as we called it, "Poets' Physics"...:P)

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-17   14:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: lodwick (#18)

Yep, and some SEC records.

Not to mention Paul O'Neill.

911 = Who Killed John O'Neill = a must for Patriots

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4755449627173127935

And the buildings were losing the Port Authority lots of $$.

The cleanup for the removal of the asbestos was estimated at $1 billion.

What a bonanza!

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   14:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lodwick (#12)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein

World Trade Center lease

7 World Trade Center

Main article: 7 World Trade Center

In 1980 Larry Silverstein won a bid to buy the last undeveloped parcel from the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to build 47-story 7 World Trade Center. [edit]

World Trade Center

Main article: World Trade Center

During the 1990s, New York was suffering from the effects of Black Monday (1987) leading to high vacancy rates at the World Trade Center. George Pataki became governor of New York in 1995 on a campaign of cutting costs including privatizing the World Trade Center. A sale of the property was considered too complex, so it was decided by the Port Authority to open a 99-year lease to competitive bidding. [2]

In January 2001, Silverstein, via Silverstein Properties and Westfield America, made a $3.2 billion bid for the lease to the World Trade Center. Silverstein was outbid by $50 million by Vornado Realty, with Boston Properties and Brookfield Properties also competing for the lease. However, Vornado withdrew and Silverstein's bid for the lease to the World Trade Center was accepted on July 24, 2001, seven weeks before the buildings were destroyed in the September 11, 2001 attacks. This was the first time in the building's 31-year history the complex had changed ownership[citation needed].

The deal was described in a press release on July 24, 2001:

"Silverstein Properties, Inc., and Westfield America, Inc. will lease the Twin Towers and other portions of the complex in a deal worth approximately $3.2 billion – the city's richest real estate deal ever and one of the largest privatization initiatives in history. [3]"

The lease agreement applied to World Trade Center Buildings One, Two, Four and Five World Trade Center, and about 425,000 square feet of retail space. Silverstein put up only $14 million of his own money [4]. Silverstein was also given the right to rebuild the structures, should they be destroyed. [5]

September 11, 2001 attacks

When the attacks occurred at 9:30AM, Silverstein was at home debating with his wife about plans to move his headquarters to the 88th floor of the North Tower (One World Trade Center). His son Roger was at 7 World Trade Center but was not hurt. [citation needed]

Dispute with Insurers

As a private developer with a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center, Silverstein insured the property. Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, he sought payment for the destruction of the towers as two incidents. The two dozen insurers held that it was one incident. If it were considered to be a single incident, the payout would be $3.55 billion and if it were two incidents, it would be $7.1 billion. Silverstein sued the insurers. On December 6, 2004, a federal jury ruled in favor of Silverstein giving him an additional $1.1 billion from nine insurers, declaring it to be two "occurrences". [6] However, in a previous trial, a different federal jury delivered a mixed verdict which highly favored insurers on April 29, 2004 [7]

At dispute in the trial were interpretation of standard forms used in the application for property insurance and when particular insurers saw which documents.[8]

In total, Silverstein was awarded nearly $5 billion in insurance money following the destruction of the Twin Towers [9]. He plans to use some or all of the settlement to rebuild. [10]

Negotiations to rebuild at the World Trade Center site

Silverstein had the legal right to rebuild office buildings including the Freedom Tower at the World Trade Center site and while the site is unoccupied, he continues to pay $10 million per month in rent to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. After several months of negotiation, in April 2006 he yielded some of those rights back to the Port Authority.

Ground was broken on the construction of the Freedom Tower on April 27, 2006. [11] What had prevented the construction from starting earlier was the lack of financing. The proceeds of the insurance payments from the destruction of the previous buildings alone were insufficient to cover the cost of rebuilding all the planned buildings.

After the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the United States Congress approved $8 billion in tax-exempt Liberty Bonds to fund development in the private sector at lower-than-market interest rates. $3.4 billion remained unallocated in March 2006 designated for Lower Manhattan, with about half of the funds under the control of Mayor Michael Bloomberg and the other half under the control of Governor George Pataki.

Negotiations were held to obtain concessions from Silverstein in exchange for allocating the Liberty Bonds to the World Trade Center rebuilding. The concessions were to give back to the Port Authority: rights to build and operate the Freedom Tower and another office tower, a share of the insurance payments, and not to contest the allocation to the Port Authority of Liberty Bonds. The Port Authority, a public agency, already has the ability to issue its own tax-exempt debt. The Port Authority will have its proposal in final form in September 2006. In return, the Liberty Bond funds were allocated to Silverstein and government agencies will be anchor tenants in his three office towers. This allows construction to commence.

In summary, Silverstein retains rights for Towers Two, Three, and Four. The Freedom Tower (designated as Tower One) will be owned by the Port Authority as well as Tower Five which may be leased out to another private developer and redesigned as a residential building.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   15:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: robin (#21)

To do this those killing all the people in this event had to view this as some sort of ritualistic sacrifice. I mean think about it; murderers get a nut from killing.

That nut must be controlled and hidden. Are the rituals of the rich and powerful at places like Bohemian grove meant to help those who deal in life and death decisions find outlets for the intense rush and exhilaration of knowing what you did killed thousands of innocent people were unavoidable collateral damage offed to try to maintain plausible denial that anything but the diversionary and panic - kick the ant hill - plane crashes did the demolition work they had ample motive to need to get done to do this false flag operation.

We should look at the actions of leaders and who were financial benefactors of this event and see if they made Freudian slips, acted strange and were different then normal emotionally.

After looking at this, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find those who had gone to Bohemian Grove events acted and functioned far better then those who did not.

Which goes to show you that no matter how much data has been compiled and analyzed, there are always new ways to look at these events for clues, and many things that have not been examined to see other clues and evidence to support the findings coming out of what really happened on 9-11.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-17   15:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: robin (#22)

Thanks for the research.

I didn't know that Lars was the developer of 7 from the get go.

Lod  posted on  2006-09-17   15:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

We should look at the actions of leaders and who were financial benefactors of this event and see if they made Freudian slips, acted strange and were different then normal emotionally.

After looking at this, I wouldn't be surprised at all to find those who had gone to Bohemian Grove events acted and functioned far better then those who did not.

Now there's a study we shall never see! An interesting premise!

Regarding Freudian slips, or at least slips, Larry Silverstein accidently slipped that he told them "to pull it" (bldg 7). He later went through some convoluted gyrations trying to explain why he said "pull it". It's a phrase used in demolitions.

And, IMO Silverstein is a very small player in this Greek tragedy.

Then there's dementia patient Rumsfeld. He used the word missile instead of plane for what hit the Pentagon. Ooops!

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/2001/t11182001_t1012pm.html

Q: This is a question that's been asked by many Americans, but especially by the widows of September 11th. How were we so asleep at the switch? How did a war targeting civilians arrive on our homeland with seemingly no warning?

Rumsfeld: There were lots of warnings. The intelligence information that we get, it sometimes runs into the hundreds of alerts or pieces of intelligence a week. One looks at the worldwide, it's thousands. And the task is to sort through it and see what you can find. And as you find things, the law enforcement officials who have the responsibility to deal with that type of thing -- the FBI at the federal level, and although it is not, it's an investigative service as opposed to a police force, it's not a federal police force, as you know. But the state and local law enforcement officials have the responsibility for dealing with those kinds of issues.

They [find a lot] and any number of terrorist efforts have been dissuaded, deterred or stopped by good intelligence gathering and good preventive work. It is a truth that a terrorist can attack any time, any place, using any technique and it's physically impossible to defend at every time and every place against every conceivable technique. Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.

speaking of nuts....

http://www.counterpunch.org/cockburn09092006.html

The nuts simultaneously credit their targets – the Bush-Cheney “conspirators” -- with superhuman ingenuity and grotesque carelessness. In Webster Griffin Tarpley’s book “9/11 Synthetic Terror Made in USA” he writes that “in an interview with Parade magazine, Defense Secretary Rumsfeld also referred to the object which hit the Pentagon as a ‘missile’. Was this a Freudian slip by the loquacious defense chief?” (And, a nut might add, is it mere coincidence that Webster Griffin Tarpley shares one of his names with David Ray Griffin?

The demolition scenario is classic who-moved-the-stonery. The WTC towers didn’t fall down because they were badly built as a consequence of corruption, incompetence, regulatory evasions by the Port Authority, and because they were struck by huge planes loaded with jet fuel. No, they fell because Dick Cheney’s agents methodically planted demolition charges in the preceding days. It was a conspiracy of thousands, all of whom –- party to mass murder –- have held their tongues ever since. The “conspiracy” is always open-ended as to the number of conspirators, widening steadily to include all the people involved in the execution and cover-up of the demolition of the Towers and the onsslaujght on the Pentagon, from the teams acquiring the explosives and themissile, inserting the explosives in the relevant floors of three vast buildings, (moving day after day among the unsuspecting office workers), then on 9/11 activating the detonators.

Subsequently the conspiracy includes the disposers of the steel and rubble, the waste recyclers in Staten Island and perhaps even the Chinese who took the salvaged incriminating metal for use in the Three Gorges dam, where it will submerged in water and concretye for ever. Tens of thousands of people, all silent as the tomb to this day.

Of course the buildings didn’t suddenly fall at a speed inexplicable in terms of physics unless caused by carefully pre-placed explosives, detonated by the ruthless Bush-Cheney operatives. High grade steel can bend disastrously under extreme heat. People inside who survived the collapse didn’t hear a series of explosions. As discussed in Wayne Barrett and Dan Collin’s excellent book Grand Illusion, about Rudy Giuliani and 9/11, helicopter pilots radioed warnings nine minutes before the final collapse that the South Tower might well go down and, repeatedly, as much as 25 minutes before the North Tower’s fall.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   15:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#23)

interesting post, Mike, one need only look at the expression on bush's face when told about the second WTC building to see he knew. that was not a normal reaction for anyone much less the POTUS who just learned his country was under attack. he's an evil luciferian.

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   15:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: All, christine (#25)

"Something will happen if enough of us know"

Thanks christine, that 3 part video was really well done.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   16:02:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine, robin (#26) (Edited)

"one need only look at the expression on bush's face when told about the second WTC building to see he knew. that was not a normal reaction for anyone much less the POTUS who just learned his country was under attack. he's an evil luciferian."

Remember how Bush is known to really get very strange when the condemned died in Texas. Death is something that almost gives him a sexual charge.

He likely has trouble controlling himself and the staged, "act normal" media bite was to prevent an inappropriate emotion emitting POTUS from running in a strangely bemused fashion.

They know his weaknesses, and they had him flown around not to protect him from terror attack, but to give him a chance to pull himself together enough to preform publicly.

I also believe that Bush Senior and Jr. have actually not 'been buddied up inexplicably ' with Clinton, but have used him for advice on public appearances and other things he's good at, and he has something on them and is using them for his benefit because Bubba knows stuff that could blow the lid off the official 9-11 story.

I believe both adversaries are using each other for mutual benefit. Think about it, two groups so adversarial about power holding do not get in bed unless one played a gambit, the other produced one as damning, and they worked their way out of a Mexican standoff in a way both benefit.

An example of something interesting to look at is how Kerry acts like someone who has been assured certain help getting renominated and winning in 2008 from a fellow Bonesman, and Clinton knows this and is trying to take down a formidable obstacle to Hilary's chances of getting him back into the obit of power he misses. Is something going on in this vein? It would be interesting if it was.

George W Bush gets off on death and was flown around to protect him from himself. They knew more about what had happened enough to control the placement and size of the Pentagon impact, so bringing the first Dupe back would have not been a risk. Having people see this vain like to fart in people's face dweeb giggling about the biggest Bohemian Grove type sacrifice in ages would have been though.

The way Bush Jr. pissed away goodwill after 9-11 made Clinton's services more attractive and with what Clinton knows he's going to get his fingers in the pie - that's how he is - and you might as well put him to work and hope you do well against him in the behind the scenes power plays that just have to be going on. And that everyone gets something out of it - as long as the lie about 9-11 remains protected and safe until the perps can at lease be more dignified in running away if they ultimately are forced to actually flee from the heat of undeniable truth fully getting out.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-17   16:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine, robin (#26)

Suggestion; watch that Friday press conference again. Don't listen to Bush's words, listen to his emotional release.

What is it trying to say? Many liars will shake their head 'no' and say yes. What is his emotional state trying to contradict?

Is something going to be happening soon involving sacrificial death? We should watch carefully because things like the way Bush acted Friday scare me.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-17   16:26:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ferret Mike (#28)

I believe both adversaries are using each other for mutual benefit. Think about it, two groups so adversarial about power holding do not get in bed unless one played a gambit, the other produced one as damning, and they worked their way out of a Mexican standoff in a way both benefit.

Probably.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   16:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

Now you're scaring me. He was very tense and very defensive.

So, if we're going to look at this from a "vibe" level, and if he has unnatural vibes about death, we should keep an eye on his next scheduled public appearances.

Unless they decide to leave him at home next time. Or maybe even hide from him some of the details. Now there's a thought.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-17   16:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: ALL (#31)

A few weeks ago I was traveling through a local town a few minutes after school was over.

I couldn't believe what I saw. There was a high school student standing on a corner with a sign that read 'Free DVDS : Learn the truth about 911"

I don't know what movie it was, but I suspect it was Loose Change.

formerly GJones.

InsideJob  posted on  2006-09-17   17:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin, IndieTX (#31)

"So, if we're going to look at this from a "vibe" level, and if he has unnatural vibes about death, we should keep an eye on his next scheduled public appearances."

Remember that little confident sneer, "I'm not going to loose" Mike Moore used in his Fahrenheit film? I believe he was telling the truth there in an arrogant way knowing the Diebold and Florida cards he had in his hand. It never hurts to read emotions and how people like him speak and to interpret things about his speech.

If you have people good enough at doing so you reverse some of the disadvantage these people leave us with how well the shadow government people hide information.

Indie, you should be good at reading people; read the last few posts here and I am curious as to if you agree on any of the thinking here.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-17   18:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: robin, IndieTX, christine (#31)

"Alex Jones predicted the 9/11 attack in a July 2001 television taping when he warned that the Globalists were going to attack New York and blame it on their asset Osama bin Laden."

http://www.590klbj.com/Bios/Alex_Jones.aspx

The people doing the best read people the best, watch Jones work, he reads people as easily as a bat uses radar in the dark. Allot of time people are at the most unease when they are picking up something on one level, and the official story says something else.

We are now in luck we have the Internet and the media and audiovisual tools we have kept all the evidence of what really happened at the attack sites on 9-11. We are able to reach many people and the networking of investigation and correlation of evidence scares the crap out of who did this.

We will see the Internet shackled and neutered for being the messenger on this one unless we take out the liars more ruthlessly then these people do in reaction to the public increasingly learning the truth.

They have an advantage; they know what happened. We spend energy investigating and educating, they spend all their considerable resources and influence toward the end of thwarting the truth getting out and neutralizing and scattering their enemies.

We live in perilous times, and things are going to happen very rapidly relatively soon.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-17   18:47:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine (#0)

Anybody who watches this entire thing, and still believes in the government fairy tale is either braindead or a traitor. It's obvious our government orchestrated the demolition and brought the buildings down. If Americans were to ever wake up, and realize this, the civil war following would be unimaginable. And it could happen, even prior to the coming financial and economic collapse of the country.

And on a sidenote,Brig. General Partin stated "The Murrah Federal Building was not destroyed by one sole truck bomb. The major factor in its destruction appears to have been detonation of explosives carefully placed at four critical junctures on supporting columns within the building." Again, our wonderful government at work. And in the 1993 world trade center bombing, the FBI spent $3 million of our tax money to blow up the World Trade Center. And, with Waco and the MOVE bombings, our wonderful government murdered woman, children, old men, and old women. I concluded long ago, our government is a terrorist cabal. It matters not which party is in power at all. As this terrorist act by our government unfolds, I guess we'll be busy here documenting the sudden heart attacks and suicides of healthy freedom loving patriots who continue to expose the acts of our government. Our founders would have already stormed the gates of powers and hung them all.

It is sad and heart wrenching that more Americans cannot see.

Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation

Uncle Bill  posted on  2006-09-17   20:22:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine, Honway, Uncle Bill (#0)

I just got to the part in Part3 where they discuss Marvin Bush and his security company, and I just now, for the first time, learned that they had performed 8 million dollars worth of security work in the WTC between 1996 and 2000.

I used to work for a company on Long Island and I had done work for companies in the WTC in the 80s. My old boss related a story to me sometime in 1995 or 96 I think, about how he lost the contract to do that work. It didn't make sense to him at the time, or to me, but now maybe it makes a little more sense.

He said that sometime during the process of finalizing agreements, he said to whomever he was working with at the Port Auhthority, something like, "Have your girl send it over..." or something like that, but he used the word girl referring to the guy's secretary.

The guy took huge offense to that, and my old boss blamed that on his not getting that contract. He's passed away in the mean time, but I am going to call his son tomorrow to get more info, like, how far along were they in the process? Did they win the bid and lose it? Stuff like that.

I would have run that job for them on a per diem, that's why we were discussing it. I had left Long Island to move to CT in 1986, but had stayed in touch with them.

This guy was very well connected in NYC. He handled a lot of specialized projects for Merill Lynch, Chemical Bank, Eastern Airlines, TWA, a couple of Israeli Banks, Bank Hapolim and Bank Leume(sp?), we did work for the Port Authority... he was connected with all sorts of retired FBI, CIA, Military people, working as security directors for all these places. He was IN with them, bigtime. And he losed an 8 million dollar job for saying "girl"?

We did things that nobody did at the time, or I should say, I did them, because he would tell them it could be done, and then come to me and say, we have to do this. LMAO!!! I made shit you wouldn't believe. In fact, I credit myself for making the first through the door video/intercom system ever. We unveiled it a security show in NY sometime around 1982. I made it AFTER he told Bank Hapolim that we could do it. lol.

Now I can't say that what happened to him is any kind of bombshell, because this started in 1996 and ended, it seems, even before Bush took office, but...

Wow, this is messed up. lol

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-09-17   22:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ferret Mike, InsideJob, Robin (#36)

Which goes to show you that no matter how much data has been compiled and analyzed, there are always new ways to look at these events for clues,

See Post 36

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-09-17   22:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#20)

what about the 1993 WTC explosions? How much energy was released in that explosion or explosions compared to the maximum amount that could have been released by the impact of the planes and subsequent fires?

I have been trying to find the "flame speed" for kerosene in what would have been it's partially atomized state after inpact just to compare it to the flame speed of TNT, wich the believers of the Official Fairy Tale ™ like to relate as being comparable to X number of tons of TNT.

The flame speed of a TNT explosion is 27,000 feet per second. I highly doubt that atomized kerosene comes withing 5% of that.

I searched and searched with google but haven't found anything on kerosene flame speed. Gasoline, yes, kerosene, no.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-09-17   22:40:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin (#31) (Edited)

He was very tense and defensive because his ass is in the sling and ain't no way he's gonna recover.

angle  posted on  2006-09-17   22:58:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Critter, *Restore the Republic* (#36) (Edited)

Now I can't say that what happened to him is any kind of bombshell, because this started in 1996 and ended, it seems, even before Bush took office, but...

Very interesting insights, Critter. Please, keep us informed about what you find out.

It would seem that the Bush-Clinton cabal had 9-11 in the works since the mid- nineties. The plot thickens....

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2006-09-17   23:05:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Uncle Bill (#35)

what a wonderful post. you articulated my feelings exactly.

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   23:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Critter, Jethro Tull, Uncle Bill (#36)

pinging JT to your and UB's posts.

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   23:47:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

mike, i watched some of it. he looks and acts mad.

christine  posted on  2006-09-17   23:57:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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