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Title: Is there anyone here that can help me fight those bastards on LP?
Source: LibertPost
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=159455&Disp=0
Published: Sep 20, 2006
Author: It IS almost too late
Post Date: 2006-09-20 17:49:16 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 725
Comments: 62

Well, is there?

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#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

Is there anyone here that can help me fight those bastards on LP?

You want to fight them? Stop posting there.

Let the site implode into the FR2 echo chamber, and post somewhere where folks are more reasonable, like here.

I haven't posted on LP in over a month, and I won't be posting there anymore.

My 2 cents.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-20   18:02:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bluedogtxn (#3)

We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir". Go over to the church of SATAN and fight the "good fight"

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2006-09-20   18:06:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#8. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

"We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir". Go over to the church of SATAN and fight the "good fight""

We did that in the months before the 2004 election and were making headway. Then out of the blue, a forum owner who is likely a friend of Goldi - ALS - and others from Conservababes.com showed up and knocked things back and hurt our momentum in our advocacy against GW Bush.

Goldi more likely then not instigated that, and there are many examples how she tweaks things to make it look like the side of the debate she hates has a fair voice, then cuts those on that side she hates off at the knees.

It is insane to keep doing the same thing hoping for different results and not getting it. The big problem is the woman who has the moderator's screen.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-20 18:14:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

Go to the Biker Bar and post a thread asking people to come here and really get informed on the truth of 9-11.

You will piss Goldi off as we are a growing headache for her, and if you are banned you have a place to go better then there, and people will better know where to go to find you. ;-D

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-20 18:29:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir". Go over to the church of SATAN and fight the "good fight"

nobody's fought that good fight harder than you.

my strong sympathies for this.

You're right about 'preaching to the choir' and you're right about good fight at church of satan over there. but others are right too that it may be of no value to keep fighting. Certainly it is very little value over here because you are preaching to the choir. Probably more valuable over there.

You are very disciplined and polite as you haven't been banned. I was banned about 2 years ago over at LP.

My only advice is - don't let it get you down. Keep your head held high. you've done the right thing. For the sake of your conscience and mental health continue to do the right thing. But don't expect to win.

expect instead that the one who made us will return ... etc etc.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-20 18:31:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir".

Oh, we shouldn't? Ok, that's your choice and opinion. I look at it differently than you do. See 4um's reason for being:

"The mission of this forum is to provide a cyberspace meeting place where lovers of individual freedom can gather to post articles and opinions about the world's events and how these events affect their unalienable rights to life, liberty, and property.

One of our fundamental rights is that of our right to freedom of association. The correlative right to freedom of association is the equally important right to freedom of non-association. Yes, the right to NOT associate -- to exclude people from our interrelationships, for any reason, based on personal preference, is also a fundamental right."

If you think you're affecting anything or changing the minds of paid posters and/or government worshipping shills, have at it. I created this forum because I realized a long time ago that it's a waste of time and energy. Not only that, it's detrimental to my peace of mind. I choose to spend my time learning from and sharing ideas with intelligent critical thinkers who also share many of my values. Further, it's my opinion that readers of this forum learn a lot more from the information posted by our members than from either LP or FR.

I choose to listen to alternative radio rather than MSM lies and propaganda for the same reasons.

christine  posted on  2006-09-20 18:54:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir". Go over to the church of SATAN and fight the "good fight"

Honestly.. it's an exercise in futility. How can you 'fight' people who are being paid to post? You're just helping them get a paycheck.. it's a waste of time IMO.. You say it's preaching to the choir.. well not necessarily.. most here DO have a clue.. but everyone who does are at different levels of understanding.. it's not a waste of time whatsoever. I left LP cause being there was a waste of MY time.. just as it was at FR..

Zipporah  posted on  2006-09-20 18:56:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir".

i think the goal is to develop a site where people like to come and read. maybe log on for news the first thing in the morning. this is powerful. converting ten or twelve hate filled substance abusers over on LP chnages nothing.

that is why it is probably wrong to fight on LP and give them their draw. the posters there can only spew hate and talking points. no one is interested in that except a small minority who won't change. without the fights, the place dies.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-09-20 19:08:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir". Go over to the church of SATAN and fight the "good fight"

You haven't gotten to the part of scripture yet that tells us to not cast pearls before swine?

A goodly number don't want to know the truth; they can't handle the truth, so why try to fight that?

How do you fight mentality that votes for the 'cutest butt in a pair of tight fitting jeans'?

rowdee  posted on  2006-09-20 21:17:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#4)

We shouldn't stay here "preaching to the choir". Go over to the church of SATAN and fight the "good fight"

Yawn. If I wanted to do that, I'd go re-register at freak republick. There comes a point when a site becomes just another Klan rally, and the only folks going there are going to get lynched.

If Goldi hadn't shown her true colors, I'd still be there, but after the hateful crap she posted and the totally unwarranted bannings and pullings of posts, it's no longer anything like a "neutral" site.

If you want to fight the good fight, go be conservative on Kos, liberal on FR or pro-government on Rockwell. Me, to the extent possible, I just want thoughtful dialogue, not nasty contrariness, which is what LP is now.

The site is a dead hole. Why waste my time?

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-09-21 09:47:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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