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Title: BREAKING: House Committee REVOTES Passes Bush Torture Bill (THEY HELD COMMITTEE REVOTE WHILE 2 DEMS OUT OF THE ROOM!)
Source: Daily Kos
URL Source: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/20/19237/9278
Published: Sep 20, 2006
Author: "MediaFreeze"
Post Date: 2006-09-20 21:08:39 by aristeides
Keywords: None
Views: 493
Comments: 44

BREAKING: House Committee REVOTES Passes Bush Torture Bill

by MediaFreeze [Subscribe]
Wed Sep 20, 2006 at 04:23:02 PM PDT

UNBELIEVABLE! More shenanigans in the House. Seems like the Republicans have REVOTED on the Bush Torture Bill and narrowly passed it having waited until two Dems were out of the room. Goodbye democracy, it was nice while it lasted.

LINK: BREAKING: - House Judiciary Reconsiders, Backs Bush Torture Bill, By Justin Rood - September 20, 2006, 5:28 PM

The House Judiciary Committee just reversed itself, calling a re-vote and passing a controversial detainee treatment bill that has White House backing, according to House sources.

Earlier today, the panel had voted down the measure, 18-17, with three members not voting. The re-vote swung the tally to 20-18 in favor of the bill.

Update: WSJ's Washington Wire has more details (and a better vote tally -- we'd originally reported 17-20). "The amendment might have passed had two Democrats not missed the vote; the two were at a news conference on the Medicare drug benefit."

UPDATE: According to a staffer for Debbra Wasserman Schultz, one of the two Democratic congresspersons who missed the vote, the congresswoman left for a short prescheduled press conference on medicare reform, an issue critical to her home district in Florida. The vote was hastily called. Once she learned of the vote, she left the press conference and hurried back, but was not in time to record her vote.

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#4. To: aristeides (#0)

Prior to this 'War on Terror' everything was crystal clear.

It should be crystal clear again.

Too bad it's not.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2006-09-20   21:16:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Fred Mertz (#4)

This is at least as bad as Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre. But, without the media shining the light of attention on it, it won't have nearly the same effect on public opinion.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-20   21:18:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: aristeides (#6)

But, without the media shining the light of attention on it, it won't have nearly the same effect on public opinion.

Wouldn't make a shit bit of difference. This could've been a bill specifically authorizing flaying and the Judas Cradle for "turrists" and you could get 45-50% of the populace to go along with it. And only the tiniest of those opposed would be apalled enough to let it sway their vote from re-electing their Congress critter. In other words, the power structure isn't threatened by a 'yes' vote, so why not?

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-20   21:48:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SmokinOPs (#24)

the power structure isn't threatened by a 'yes' vote, so why not?

Not threatened? Just what makes them so sure the same bad stuff won't happen to themselves in due course?

I'm reading a history of the French Revolution at the moment. Until the Terror started, members of the National Assembly enjoyed immunity from arrest.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-20   21:51:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: aristeides (#26)

Just what makes them so sure the same bad stuff won't happen to themselves in due course?

The same assuredness that you have that will never happen to them. As long as Congress plays their part - which is to give the appearance the people are represented, without actually doing so - there is no need for a dictatorship where members of Congress are hauled off to dungeons for "treason" and tortured.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-20   21:58:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SmokinOPs (#28)

If you don't want to read the history of the French Revolution, you have only to read the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union under Stalin. And there are of course many other examples.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-20   22:00:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: aristeides (#30)

If you don't want to read the history of the French Revolution, you have only to read the history of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union under Stalin. And there are of course many other examples.

Are you implying we are near some turning point in the power structure leading to a revolution and a purge? And what's the time frame on that? 50, maybe 75 years down the road? I don't think even then.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-20   22:43:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: SmokinOPs (#39)

The members of the French National Assembly were mighty surprised with how fast events moved.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-20   22:45:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#42. To: aristeides (#40)

The members of the French National Assembly were mighty surprised with how fast events moved.

Perhaps. But did they have cheap beer, 400 channels, the NFL, internet porn, McMansions and plasma screen TVs to keep the populace occupied? When it comes down to brass tacks, most Americans are miles from the breaking point. Ping me about the Revolution when McDonald's runs out of fries.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-20 22:56:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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