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Title: Insurgency Gains Alarming Support Among Iraq's Sunni Muslims
Source: ABC News
URL Source: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/print?id=2470183
Published: Sep 20, 2006
Author: JONATHAN KARL
Post Date: 2006-09-20 22:55:49 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 117
Comments: 8

Pentagon Survey Reveals Significant Growth in Support Since Iraq War Began

By JONATHAN KARL

Sept. 20, 2006 — - A confidential Pentagon assessment finds that an overwhelming majority of Iraq's Sunni Muslims support the insurgency that has been fighting against U.S. troops and the Iraqi government, ABC News has learned.

Officials won't say how the assessment was made but found that support for the insurgency has never been higher, with approximately 75 percent of the country's Sunni Muslims in agreement.

When the Pentagon started surveying Iraqi public opinion in 2003, Sunni support for the insurgents stood at approximately 14 percent.

The news comes as September is on track to become one of the deadliest months this year for U.S. troops in Iraq. Forty-nine Americans have been killed this month, with four deaths today.

The Iraqi toll is also climbing. At one Baghdad morgue, taxis and other cars line up to take away the bodies -- the U.S. and Iraqi forces' big push to secure the capital seems to be failing to curb the violence.

"Where is the government?" one man asked. "Where is the promise of security? Where is the prime minister?"

U.S. officials are asking the same questions as they privately express frustration with the government of Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki. Officials say Maliki's government is not doing enough to win support of Iraq's Sunnis.

Former general Jack Keane said the Iraqi government has been "absolutely unable or unwilling to do anything about the Shia militia groups who are causing so much of the violence in Baghdad."

White House press secretary Tony Snow said reports that the president has lost faith in Maliki are "absolutely false." He said the prime minister has been in office just four months, and there has been "significant progress."

But many of the senior military officials ABC News has spoken to simply do not agree with that assessment.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Well, here's the thing- when your troops in the region despise the locals as they have been brainwashed too since birth, can murder them with impunity and gussy any flimsy reason they want too on the official reports, write country music songs about killing Iraqi children and post them on the internet while being cheered by the troop audience and pundits in America thinking its funny, torture and murder people in prisons, blast apart cities in collective punishment actions, don't rebuild any basic services, hold fraud elections with lists of names made public the day of the election, invade based on lies, send in incompetent political hacks to run the transition, publically say you don't give shit how many Iraqis are being killed and say you are not even bothering to keep count . . . and generally act like an evil Nazi occupation army then GUESS THE FUCK WHAT? You ain't gonna be liked.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-20   23:02:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Brian S (#0)

Former general Jack Keane said the Iraqi government has been "absolutely unable or unwilling to do anything about the Shia militia groups who are causing so much of the violence in Baghdad."

Applying this former general's logic: he somehow expects a puppet gubmint to do what the 135,000 merikan soldiers and gads who knows how many 'willing allies' troops HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO DO SINCE APRIL 2003?

Is it any wonder nam was unwinnable and iraq is unwinnable when you have retards like this being a part of the mix!!!

No doubt this moron votes for 'r's all the time!

rowdee  posted on  2006-09-21   0:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rowdee (#2)

Applying this former general's logic: he somehow expects a puppet gubmint to do what the 135,000 merikan soldiers and gads who knows how many 'willing allies' troops HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO DO SINCE APRIL 2003?

The General also forgets that Iraqi troops might just be a little hesitant to fire on their own countrymen. The fact that this never occured to a commander of US troops has me a bit worried as an American.

"Our boys would waste their own mothers if given the order. Why won't you swarthy idiots do the same?"

Is it any wonder nam was unwinnable and iraq is unwinnable when you have retards like this being a part of the mix!!!

I saw a poll a few weeks ago that showed that 75% of vietnam vets think that it was FEDGOV's fault that the US lost the war. How soon till the dolts in Iraq buy a clue?

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2006-09-21   0:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#3)

What those Vets mean by the "Fedgov's" fault that the war was "lost" was that they din't kill 10 or 20 million more people by bombing the levee systems and or nuking Hanoi.

Yes- the US could have "won" Vietnam if it did that. Hell- the US could "win" it all and just start murdering everyone in Iraq right now.

What stopped Washington from doing things like that in Vietnam was that the American people would have been morally revolted.

Today? I don't think that "moral majority" so to speak- exists. Sometimes- I actually think the Federal Government is less blood thirsty than your average American.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-21   0:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Burkeman1 (#4)

What those Vets mean by the "Fedgov's" fault that the war was "lost" was that they din't kill 10 or 20 million more people by bombing the levee systems and or nuking Hanoi.

One thing that was stopped was the bombing of North Vietnam's ports when the Russian freighters full of weapons came in. Only one raid was ever launched against frighters full of weapons destined for the North. The raid was highly effective at cutting off weapons to the NVA and VC and it sent the NVA running back to the "peace talks" and curbed their willingness to attack the South. After that it was forbidden to bomb the dock facilites of the North ever again and the US went back to bombing the South to hell and spraying enough Agent Orange in the South to cause a 50% crop failure in the late 1960s.

Leaving the right or wrong of war itself out of the discussion for a moment, the fact that "hippies" are near the bottom of the list as to reasons why we lost are very telling. Some people are waking up to the fact that it was and is not the "peaceniks and pinkos" that cause the fight to be a losing battle, but that the fault lies with the Politicans and Generals who green lighted the various cluster-fucks throughout US history. They were the ones who forced US troops into a no-win situation, not the protestors.

The use of drafted US troops in another country who are financed by funds stolen from the taxpayers is wrong. No argument here. However, I am glad to see the "stabbed in the back theory" is being discredited for the crap that it is. I sure as hell don't want to hear 50 year from now that we lost Iraq because people who spoke their minds and examined the situation "harmed the war effort."

"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.

Pissed Off Janitor  posted on  2006-09-21   0:54:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#5)

sure as hell don't want to hear 50 year from now that we lost Iraq because people who spoke their minds and examined the situation "harmed the war effort."

You will hear that. And it will gain traction with time just as the "hippies commies stabbed us in the back" is very popular among the reichwingers today and even sorta accepted among your average dope. Gone from their memories already on Iraq is that the "peaceniks" like at http://antiwar.com have been right every effing step of the way- from calling the intel before the war about the WMD to be a pack of lies- to calling the lies about "AQ in Iraq" being the heart of the insurgency to be a total bullshit. All the absurd daily briefings from the military spokesmen will be forgotten- the lying statistics, the torture and murder- the utterly failed use of 2nd generation tactics in a 4th generation war situation. And so much more- all will be forgotten and the weak voices of a barely alive antiwar movement in this country will be blamed for "weakening the will" of the sainted holy troops.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-09-21   1:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Brian S (#0)

never mind their daily sufferings, Abu Ghreib, torture, rape.......

THOSE S O B's MUST HATE OUR FREEDOM & DEMOCRACY

Max  posted on  2006-09-21   1:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Burkeman1 (#4)

Sometimes- I actually think the Federal Government is less blood thirsty than your average American.

They were until very recently. Washington showed with its torture vote today, that it has finally come to the realization that it no longer has to put on a moral facade. We have an Executive that has admitted to using a derivation of a 16th century tactic for forcing confessions out of witches and the #1 radio show in America rationalized it. And it's still the #1 radio show in America. That was a clear signal as to what we will tolerate.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-21   1:24:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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