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Religion See other Religion Articles Title: What Separation of Church and State? What Separation of Church and State Good day. My name is Richard, and I am a Christian. I am about fifty years old, and I was raised in Montana, where I spent roughly the first forty-one years of my life. I have been in Mexico for nearly nine years now, and I like it here, a lot. I like the people, the language, and the food. Please, I ask of you that if you are angry about something that I write, please be specific about the perceived problem. Most of what I send out will be based on facts, laws, statutes, legal definitions, government documents and the like. Just because you do not like something does not mean that it is incorrect, so if you have a problem with something, quote me chapter and verse detailing why I am wrong. And I have been wrong, and blessings to the people who helped me to learn and correct my errors! The Separation of Church and State within the United States is an illusion. And no one says anything about it. Ever wonder why? (For reference, see Fascism.) 1) Nearly 99% of the so-called Christian churches are corporations, which places them in commerce. This is required by the hierarchy of such churches (not by the congregations). 2) More than 99% of the ministers serving in such churches are licensed by the government. This is required by the hierarchy of such churches (not by the congregations). In Black’s Law Dictionary, License; a personal privilege to do some particular act or series of acts on land without possessing any estate or interest therein,….. The permission by competent authority to do an act which, without such permission, would be illegal… Privilege; A particular and peculiar benefit or advantage enjoyed by a person, company, or class, beyond the common advantages of other citizens. An exceptional or extraordinary power or exemption. A peculiar right, advantage, exemption, power, franchise, or immunity held by a person or class, ….. In other words, by working with the government (see Fascism), and accepting licensing for their so-called ministers and by incorporating, the various churches have attained a monopoly on the Word of God. I don’t think so! Of course, you may learn even more by looking up the other words contained in this definition, IN A LEGAL DICTIONARY. Also, you should note the difference between a RIGHT and a privilege; a RIGHT exists, and a privilege is created by man. And no one can create a privilege without having first taken some RIGHT from another man. If you are confused about the issue of RIGHTS, please refer to the Declaration of Independence. 3) 100% of all marriages performed in corporate churches using licensed ministers are marriages performed with a marriage licensed issued by the government. The ‘licensed’ ministers are not permitted to perform marriages without the state issued marriage licenses, and such marriages are solemnized thus: by the authority granted me by the State of New York (or whatever State), I now pronounce you man and wife. Stop and think, does that sound like a Christian marriage!? Marriage License; page 973, Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, A license or permission granted by public authority to persons who intend to intermarry,….. Intermarriage; page 815, Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, See Miscegenation. Miscegenation; page 999, Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, Mixture of races. (I am going to say this only one time; do not write a response to this post claiming that the marriage license now means something different! The above is the legal definition currently in use within the courts of the United States. NO OTHER DEFINITION CAN DEFEAT THIS DEFINITION WITHIN THOSE COURTS.) A marriage license is signed by the parties to the marriage, i.e., the man, the woman, and an agent for the state, and thus is attested to and becomes a three-party contract. This gives the state the same rights within the marriage as the husband and wife, including to the issue (children) of the marriage, and the wealth accumulated within the marriage. Have any more questions about taxation? Or, about excluding homosexuals from a marriage solemnized under a marriage license? Marriage Certificate; page 973, Black’s Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, An instrument which certifies a marriage and is executed by the person officiating at the marriage; it is not intended to be signed by the parties, but is evidence of the marriage. Marriage certificates are what are used in actual Christian churches, and I have seen such upheld in many situations. Including military personal who present such as evidence of marriage to obtain benefits from the military for their wife. It is accepted throughout the United States. Just the fact that it is defined in Black’s Law Dictionary is enough to understand that it is acceptable. Then why do the corporate churches only perform marriages with a marriage license? It is important to note that marriage certificates are not designed to be signed by the man and wife, thus it is not a contract within the legal definitions of man, which certainly puts it into a completely different Lawful context. After having watched quite a few of the Separation of Church and State groups for some time, I am amazed at how little information comes across them, and if there is information sent out to these groups, it is always about something to sell or with something supposedly bad about Christians, or something bad about the Bible, or both! And yet, how many of those writing such have ever read the Bible, much less studied it? And how many of those complaining about Christians have any idea as to exactly what a Christian actually is? A Christian should, as all men should, follow a very good rule about men; a man is known by his actions, and not by his words, as all men are liars. It is a prime rule of life, and works very well with another rule; follow the money. When a harlot appears on TV, fishing for money, i.e., donations, and says that he is a Christian, what would lead someone to believe that? Because the harlot said it? Does that make any sense? How many such must be exposed before people begin to catch on? Observe the actions of such men, as this is how they are always exposed, and I am sure you can remember any number of such exposures. But such men have stolen millions of dollars through their TV empires, and as soon as they are gone, another arises to take their place, and the entire charade begins again. Of course, there are many more such harlots operating within the incorporated churches and who style themselves, and their churches, as Christian as well. Don’t you ever wonder why such men, and their incorporated churches, never have problems with the IRS and the government? Perhaps the following may give you some insight into what is going on. As you read this, please be sure to remember that there will be a post on Fascism coming soon. How the IRS controls Christian Churches; http://www.texemarrs.com/121998/35.htm Does the IRS hate the Gospel and despise Bible-believing Christians? Has the IRS become a police-state agency that regularly persecutes churches, pastors, and ministries that still believe in old-fashioned patriotism? Listed below are 35 things the IRS contends are prohibited of churches and ministries. A pastor or ministry leader who violates the guidelines of the IRS on these 35 prohibitions can have his church or group's tax exemption revoked and be dealt with harshly by the IRS. These 35 prohibitions on churches and ministries demonstrate how the IRS and the federal government now control churches and insure politically and religiously "correct" behavior. Liberal Christian churches and false religions such as Hunduism, Witchcraft, and Scientology are not affected by these rules--only Bible-believing, Christian ministries and churches. Also, keep in mind: These 35 things are not prohibited by law nor by the Constitution. The IRS considers itself above the law and the Constitution. According to the IRS, Christian churches, ministries, and organizations may not: 1. Expose conspiracies. 2. Criticize the New World Order. 3. Say or publish anything negative about any politician, Republican or Democrat. 4. Criticize government agencies and bureaus--the IRS, FBI, BATF, CIA, EPA, DEA, OSHA, DOJ, etc. 5. Criticize an institution of government such as the White House, the Congress, the Federal Reserve Board, or the Supreme Court. 6. Encourage citizens to call or write their congressman, senator, governor, mayor, or other public official. 7. Criticize any proposed or pending bill or legislation that would take away the rights and freedoms of the people. 8. Make disparaging remarks about, or criticize, any other faith group, cult, or religion. 9. Expose or criticize the New Age Movement. 10. Support or encourage a law-abiding citizen's militia. 11. Support or encourage the Second Amendment, the right of the people to keep and bear arms. 12. Discourage young women from getting an abortion, or endorse the pro-life movement. 13. Teach that abortion, especially partial birth abortion, is murder and is the killing of innocent babies. 14. Identify homosexuality as a sin and an abomination to God. 15. Express an opinion on any subject or issue. 16. Appeal to peoples' emotions by employing an evangelization method (such as "fire and brimstone" preaching) not considered a "reasoned approach" by the IRS. 17. Discuss or identify threats to Christianity. 18. Discuss subjects or topics the IRS deems "sensationalist." 19. Criticize well-known public figures or institutions the IRS deems "worthy", such as the super-rich elite, international bankers, the Hollywood movie industry, etc. 20. Publish or broadcast information on any topic without giving credence to the opposing viewpoints of Christ's enemies. 21. Publish and offer books, tapes, or products that expose the elitist plot against humanity and God. 22. Criticize the Pope or the Vatican, or contrast the New Catholic Catechism with the truths found in the Holy Bible. (Note: only liberal churches are permitted by the IRS to criticize the Catholic Church). 23. Criticize the United Nations or such globalist groups as the Council on Foreign Relations, the Bilderbergers, and the Trilateral Commission. 24. Criticize the Masonic Lodge, the Order of Skull & Bones, or other Secret societies. 25. Highlight or otherwise bring attention to immorality of public officials or corruption in government. 26. Complain of government wrongdoing or injustice, such as happened at Waco, Ruby Ridge, and elsewhere. 27. Criticize the Jewish ADL or other Jewish lobby groups. 28. Say anything positive about the "religious right" or the "patriot movement." 29. Support home schooling, home churches, or unregistered churches. 30. Spend money on missionary projects or charitable causes not approved by the IRS. 31. Promote or encourage alternative healthcare (herbs, vitamins, etc.). 32. Expose false teachings of any kind by anyone. 33. Support or encourage persecuted Christians suffering under anti-Christian regimes in Red China, Cuba, Russia, Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United States, and elsewhere. 34. Ordain a pastor whose training or qualifications are not approved by the IRS. 35. Advocate or teach any Bible doctrine that is politically or religiously incorrect, or is inconsistent with any "public policy" (abortion, feminism, gay rights, etc.) currently being enforced by the IRS. Interesting, isn´t it. When you read the information on this page of the Texe Marrs site, remember that it is true. However, because I have used this information from this site to illustrate a point does not mean that I endorse the Texe Marrs ministry, or that much else that is talked about on this site is true. To verify this information, you can type BIBLE AND THE IRS into any Internet search engine (I used dogpile), and you will be led to quite a number of similar sites with more or less identical information. And, you can find a number of sites, which detail how churches have been stripped of their real estate by the IRS, and it is always for violating the rules posted above. Generally, the IRS will claim that the church in question had not paid their taxes, but that was because they had their tax-exempt status removed for violating these rules. There are a number of interesting considerations to make note of here. First off, a man of God does not seek a tax exemption from the government: to make such a request is actually requesting to enter into commerce, and places the man and his ministry directly under control of the government. So what Texe Marrs is complaining of here makes no sense. If a so-called church wishes to engage in commerce, then it is properly under the control of the government, in whatever form of control the government wishes to exert. And given that a tax exemption was requested, then the proper agency of control is the IRS. After all, the church directly requested such control. That being said, please note the form of the control, and read the 35 prohibited actions very carefully, for those 35 prohibitions reveal very thoroughly the intentions of the government behind the IRS. Actually, you will, if you read and study this Post carefully, have an insight into the thoughts and actions of the Internationalists who control the United States government, and a beginning understanding as to how to identify those who claim to be Christians, and are not. Understanding is the first step necessary in correcting evil, and if you are confused as to what you see going on around you, then you are not capable of making informed decisions. Neither are you capable, when you are in a state of confusion, in correctly deciding who you should be associating with, donating to, or generally supporting. “ministries that still believe in old-fashioned patriotism?” This is a quote from this page of the Texe Marrs site, and makes one wonder as to just how important is the Bible to such men? I have to conclude, after reading this site, that the Bible is simply another tool to be used in generating donations. In the Bible, we are told that the governments of man are raised up by God to punish evil does, unbelievers, and the wicked. And any study of history will show that this is absolutely true. The problem with men such as Texe Marrs is that they have no real understanding of the Constitution and the United States government, and instead of listening to the Bible, they follow the traditions of men. This is condemned in the Bible. We are told not to oppose the governments of men, because they have been raised up by God for His purposes…. to punish evil does, unbelievers, and the wicked. Why are we not to oppose such governments? Because of isometrics. Isometric exercises teach us that opposition builds strength. If you wish the government that you think is evil or in error to grow in strength, simply oppose it. Evil men have understood this principle for thousands of years, and have used it endlessly in order to cement their own positions of power into place. They do this by simply creating a backlash against their control by a minority of the people, or, much more effectively, creating a situation where the people rush, supposedly, to the defense of the nation. Two recent examples of this, leading to new draconian laws, were the Reichstag fire in Germany, which finalized Hitler’s rise to power in Germany, and the Oklahoma City bombing and 911 within the United States, which lead to the so-called Patriot Act. History has revealed that it was Hitler, or at least his ‘friends’, who were behind the Reichstag fire. No one has produced iron clad proof concerning the two events within the United States, but there has certainly been enough good questions raised for which there appear to be no answers to raise serious doubts about the official versions about either the Oklahoma City bombing, or the Twin Towers attack. (Of course, as we all understand, the proof of the twin towers attack is now available in most all locations – but this post was written more than two years ago.) There is nothing in the Bible that instructs a Christian in patriotism to a creation of man, such as a government. There is also nothing within the Bible, which instructs a Christian about participating within the governments of man. In fact, nearly 60% of the Bible is instruction on God’s government on earth, which is alive and quite well, thank you. And I assure you, there is no preaching permitted from this part of the Bible within the corporation churches of the state! Frankly, I do not care what the United States government does. It has no effect on me. I do not eat the garbage sold as food within the United States (coming soon, a post on what constitutes food), I do not participate in Social Security (coming soon, a post on Social Security), and my friends do not send their children to so-called public schools. We do not serve in the military (we would if a direct attack was made upon America), and we certainly do not vote! God’s government on earth is based on the family. If you understand this, then the continual attacks against the family by the United States government over the last sixty years begins to make sense. The Republic of America was based on this government of God, but that was a far different system than what is taught in the government controlled schools of today, and far, far different from what Americans think they know about what constitutes a government of the people, by the people, and for the people, today. Stay tuned for more, and do not be afraid to ask questions! God Bless, Richard The following was sent to me after the first limited posting of ''What Separation of Church and State''. The information came from Brother Gregory, and covers much that I missed. It is certainly interesting, and you should wonder how this ties into Fascism, and how the state uses the churches to cement its control of the nation. Richard “Churches have not only bound themselves unnecessarily, they have neglected the daily ministration of the people and delivered them back into the snares and bondage of rulers and despots which Abraham, Moses and Jesus led men out of. Churches regularly fill out (a form) 1023 and apply for a status with the government called 501C3. Lawyers tell them they have to do this despite that the Internal Revenue states that, "The following organizations will be considered tax exempt under section 501(c)(3) even if they do not file Form 1023: (a) churches, their integrated auxiliaries, and conventions or associations of churches,...". Where do they state this? In the instructions of course: "Application for Recognition of Exemption Under Section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code," under "Purpose of Form," section "2. Organizations not Required to file Form 1023. -Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service. This of course is not the only place that Churches are told that they do not have to apply. Many have told me that if you are not a 501(c)(3) church you cannot deduct your contributions. For those who believe that to be true you should know that, in the Department of the Treasury, I.R.S., Pub. 557 Tax-Exempt Status for Your Organization, Chap. 3, Page 14, we find; "Although a church, its integrated auxiliaries, or a convention or association of churches is not required to file Form 1023 to be exempt from federal income tax or to receive tax deductible contributions, such an organization may find it advantageous to obtain recognition of exemption." (This is exactly what I was speaking of before; in essence, the churches have requested to enter into commerce. – Richard) So, contributions are deductible if you do not file. Yet many churches do file. Why? What are the advantages that they may find under a 501(c)(3) status? "Advantages and Disadvantages of Exemption Under Section 501(c)(3)." "The main advantage to classification under .501(c)(3) is that the organization is generally spared federal taxation of its income." according to the Detailed Analysis, Tax Management Inc. a subsidiary of the Bureau of National Affairs, Inc. 464-2nd, A -1 The use of the words 'generally spared' should make it clear that any 'organization' granted or permitted exemption under 501(c)(3) is spared not because of its nature or right but because of its 'classification.' Probably the most important word to note is the word 'under.' Again if we look at the Department of the Treasury, Internal Revenue Service, Instructions for form 1023, section 2, we see; "Even if these organizations are not required to file form 1023 to be tax-exempt, they may wish to file form 1023 and receive a determination letter of IRS recognition of their section 501(c)(3) status to obtain certain incidental benefits such as public recognition of their tax exempt status; exemptions from certain state taxes; advance assurance to donors of deductibility of contributions; from certain Federal excise taxes; nonprofit mailing privileges, etc." How is it an advantage to exchange a God given mandatory exemption as Christ's Holy Church for a classification as an organization, which is only generally spared taxation? So, what are the disadvantages? According to the same Detailed Analysis, "The disadvantages of exemption under 501(c)(3) stem from the strict operational restrictions." A church or a religion is exempt, in the sense that it is not taxed or regulated, because the government has no power, granted by the document that created it, to make rules to the contrary. Do you want to be merely spared a tax although your operations will be strictly restricted under the administrative rule of 501(c)(3) regulations and authority? There is far more to all this including a look at incorporation by the state of a Church which is really the waiver of rights of the Church granted by Christ in exchange for commercial benefits offered by the state. . See The Body of Christ Vs. The Body of the State and other links concerning the formation of a free Church. Http://www.hisholychurch.net/study/gods/bvb.htm Peace on your house Gregory@hisholychurch.net Join the Kingdom News List http://www.hisholychurch.net/subscribe.html Discussion and News lists including the Kingdom News. http://www.hisholychurch.net/emaillst.asp I have always understood that it was not necessary to register a church to make that church tax deductible; in fact, I have always understood that the very act of registering such a church would end it’s RIGHT to be tax deductible, and instead make that church depend upon a PRIVILEGE. But I did not have the details available that Brother Gregory was so gracious to share with us. There is another aspect to this, and it is one of supreme importance… at least, it is to me. If you are a Christian, and I realize that many on these lists are not, then you understand the same as I do, and you know that there will come a day when you stand before God for Judgment. You are required by His Law to seek out the Truth, and you are required to change accordingly when you discover what it is that you are required to do. If you are attending a 501(c)(3) church, accepting marriage with a state issued marriage license, and listening to a state licensed minister preach the Word of God, then you are the one who will have to face judgment for that sin. You are compounding this sin when you donate money to such an organization, cherish the tax deduction, and teach your children and all others you know, by your example, to do the same as you. I was raised as a Catholic. I got over it, and so can you. And if you actually accept God, then you must get over practicing religion (a work of man), or risk having your name stricken from His Book. This is your responsibility, just as it was mine. Now, it matters not to me how you accept this responsibility. It causes me no harm if you refute everything in your own mind, for the responsibility is yours. MY responsibility was to see to it that you have access to the CORRECT information. Once you have this information, what you do with it becomes much more important, TO YOU, from that day on. The Bible is REAL big on personal responsibility. God Bless, Richard
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The basic doctrine of the Catholic church is the same as most of the Protestant denominations. The important tenets are believed by Catholics and Protestants alike: that Christ is God Incarnate, the existence of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Trinity, and the virgin birth. That organized religion has its problems is obvious. Not sure what your point is about the marriage license. Maybe churches should pay taxes, like a corporation; well except most corporations don't pay any tax.
Robin; you need to read Revelations, and pay close attention to the Whore who sits on seven hills and her spiritual daughters; The “Harlot” of Revelation http://www.cog21.org/j12.htm (You can find similiar info in many locations on the web) The Apostle John says, “And the ten horns are ten kings [who will] receive their power and authority for one hour as kings with the BEAST. These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority [in a “federal” system] to the BEAST…. The waters which you saw, where the HARLOT sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues. And the ten horns which you saw on the BEAST, these will [eventually] hate the HARLOT, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For GOD has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the BEAST, until the words of God are fulfilled. And the WOMAN whom you saw is that GREAT CITY [Rome]” (Rev. 17:12-18). What will happen to the Head of this religious organization, a “UNIVERSAL CHURCH”? And what will happen to the political LEADER, the “man,” who will be the Head of the political organization, which is also called the “BEAST”? John tells us that the “ten kings” will give their power and authority unto this MAN (the “BEAST”), and that their “armies” will war against Christ at His Coming (Rev. 19:11-19). “And the BEAST was captured, and with him the FALSE PROPHET who worked signs [“miracles” KJV] in his presence…. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone. And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the [“white”] horse” (vv. 20-21). The outcome of that battle is described in much greater detail in Zechariah 14:1-15! Biblical prophecy reveals that the global power of the “LITTLE HORN” (the Papacy, Daniel 7), will be exercised by the Head of the Universal Church, the “WOMAN” of Revelation 17, who will sit astride the “BEAST” controlling the wild Beast she is riding, the seventh head of the revived Roman Empire. That Beast will make its final bid to rule the entire world! All of this will bring about World War III, which will devastate many nations, and will culminate in the destruction of the power of the English-speaking nations and the democracies of Northwest Europe. After you read this, I suggest you look up the post I made titled Simon Magus, who was the real founder of the Roman Catholic (catholic simply means universal) church. This is kind of an important subject. Richard
"Only the Father knows the hour" I'm not going to speculate how to interpret the Book of Revelation. Since all Christians were once a part of the Catholic church, the Greek Orthodox splitting off before the Protestants, it means all our spiritual forefathers Catholic. Yes, there have been disagreements. Too bad they weren't handled w/o the divisions. I don't buy into the Catholic church is evil doctrine. I'll bet there are Zionists who would just love to sell that idea.
Whoa! Whoa! Wait a minute!!! Not even hardly! Robin, you need to do some reading! You are confused because you have only been exposed to history as recorded by those under the power of Rome! There was a whole great big world outside of the Roman lake known as the Med. For instance, what is the oldest Christian nation on the face of the earth? Oh, right, Palenstine, where Christ began His preaching, and the Apostles moved east and north from there, to find the other Tribes of Israel who had been taken into captivity. I will post the info on those Tribes tomorrow. Meanwhile, here is an excerpt from the first post I did here, titled Simon Magus; More About Simon Magus; THE FALSE religious system began very early -- almost with Pentecost in 31 A.D. Even in the earliest of Paul’s epistles, he informs us that "the mystery of iniquity DOTH ALREADY WORK" (II Thess. 2:7). Paul wrote this in 50 or 51 A.D. The plot to supplant the Truth had already begun. In the later epistles of Paul and in those of the other Apostles, we find it gaining considerable momentum. However, even though the Apostles discuss the diabolical system which was arising, THEY NOWHERE MENTION HOW IT STARTED. They had no need in mentioning its beginning -- that had already been done! The book of Acts is the KEY to the understanding of Christian beginnings. Not only does it show the commencement of the TRUE Church, but it equally reveals the origins of the False Church masquerading as Christianity. Indeed, you would think it odd if the book of Acts did not discuss this vital subject. ... Simon Magus was the name of the man who founded the Roman Church called Universal (Catholic). IT WAS NOT PETER!!! He would never have been associated with such an abomination! I suggest that you read that post and follow the links within the post. PLEASE! Because please believe me, the Roman church is the very heart of evil in this world. You should also find the book, Two Babylons. Very informative. And if you do not do these things, you will never understand why so many things do not make sense!
Matthew 16:18 - Jesus said, "I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it." Peter and Paul are all over the Book of Acts. Sorry, I don't buy any of this history. I won't argue that the church has some problems, they ALL have problems.
Robin, you should have already seen enough of my info to understand that I have some idea of what I am saying. The above refers to Jesus Christ; THAT is the rock! And this theme, that Jesus Christ is the Rock, is continued throughout Scripture; And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and THAT ROCK WAS CHRIST). (I Corinthians 10:4). For they stumbled or the stumbling-stone, as it is written, "Behold I lay in Sion, a stumbling-stone and a ROCK of offence: and whosoever believeth on him (Christ) shall not be ashamed." (Romans 9:33) Let us see what the apostle, St. Peter, had to say concerning this. To whom coming (Christ), as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men but chosen of God, and precious, Wherefore also it is contained in the Scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious; and he that believeth on Him shall not be confounded. Unto you therefore which believe He ispreciou: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner, and, a stone of stumbling, and a ROCK of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: (I Peter 2:4. 6-8) This is The stone which was set at naught of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: For there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Also the words of St. Peter, speaking of Jesus Christ, as recorded in Acts 4:11, 12) There is an excellent explanation here;
Christ gave Simon the name Peter, "rock", in that moment. What Jesus actually said to Peter in Aramaic was: "You are Kepha and on this very kepha I will build my Church." A play on words. If Christ was referring to Himself why would he start off with "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). Why would He choose a name that means rock? Yes, Christ is the cornerstone.
Robin, please understand how English is constructed. You are Peter and you are THE rock upon which etc.etc. And you must learn how Scripture is complete and never changing. There can not be two rocks in Scripture, and if Peter were to be that rock, then the rest of Scripture as I quoted before, is wrong. And thus the Bible is in err. I gave you a link where you could read the explanation in its complete form; to understand completely, that is what you must do.
#25. To: richard9151 (#24)
what? There is one cornerstone, yes. Why do you insist on reading more into the verse than is there?
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