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Title: Israel Calls Iran Its Greatest Threat
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Published: Sep 23, 2006
Author: NICK WADHAMS
Post Date: 2006-09-23 21:57:22 by tom007
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Israel Calls Iran Its Greatest Threat Email this Story Sep 20, 11:09 PM (ET) By NICK WADHAMS (AP) Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni addresses the 61st session of the United Nations General... Full Image UNITED NATIONS (AP) - The Israeli foreign minister on Wednesday warned that Iranian leaders pose the biggest threat to the world's values because they "speak proudly" of their wish to destroy Israel and pursue weapons to achieve that objective. Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni told the annual U.N. General Assembly session that the international community must stand up against Iran, which she claimed is pursuing the weapons to destroy Israel, a reference to its suspect nuclear program. "There is no greater challenge to our values than that posed by the leaders of Iran," Livni said. "They deny and mock the Holocaust. They speak proudly and openly of their desire to wipe Israel off the map. And now, by their actions, they pursue the weapons to achieve this objective, to imperil the region and to threaten the world." She said Iran's support of the Islamic militant group Hezbollah in south Lebanon showed the threat it poses to the region. The world must ensure that it enforces the U.N. Security Council resolution that ended more than a month of fighting between Israel and Hezbollah, Livni said. "There is no place for such a regime in the family of nations," she said. Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has said in the past he wants to wipe Israel off the map and dismissed the Holocaust as a myth. In his own speech to the General Assembly on Tuesday, Ahmadinejad said Israel was created by driving millions of people from territory that was rightfully theirs, something he called "a great tragedy with hardly a precedent in history." He also harshly criticized Israel's policies, saying the country was a source of insecurity in the Middle East that was "waging war and spilling blood and impeding the progress of regional countries." While Livni spoke, a lone Iranian diplomat sat in the back row of the section of six seats reserved for the Islamic republic in the General Assembly hall. After her speech ended, the diplomat moved up to the front row to listen to the following official, from Belgium. Livni struck a more conciliatory tone toward the Palestinians, saying the two did not necessarily have to remain at odds and the only way to resolve their conflict was at the "bilateral negotiating table." "We have no illusions about the difficulties before us - we must face them and not ignore them," she said. Livni met with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas at the U.N. a day before the General Assembly session began, and both described the meeting as positive. In her speech, she reiterated their desire to reopen a serious dialogue, including with the creation of a permanent channel "to pursue ways to advance together." On the sidelines of the summit on Wednesday, President Bush called Abbas a "man of courage" for trying to revive Mideast peace talks despite a continued political stalemate with Hamas militants. Abbas has been weakened since January when Hamas, which seeks the destruction of Israel, won the Palestinian elections. Prospects for a return to active peace negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians have looked dim this year, partly because the political upheaval in both governments kept leaders' attention focused inward. Israel has new leadership too as Ariel Sharon remains incapacitated after his sudden massive stroke on Jan. 4. The new prime minister, Ehud Olmert, is on the defensive at home because of widespread dissatisfaction with the conduct and outcome of Israel's summer war against Hezbollah.
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
Sounds like a pack of lies to me. Did they think she could make them sound more convincing?
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Paraphrased from the pre-invasion rhwetoric of the Bush Cabal (same folks, anyhoo).
4um is Israel's greatest threat.
She's right but pardon my French...WHAT THE FUCK DID THEY EXPECT? Put it this way, as a long-haired Northern social liberal, I am not planning to move to rural Alabama or Georgia, much less go there and claim God promised it to me and everyone has to do things my way or else. For decades, Israel has let it be known they had nukes and would use them if anyone messed with them. Now, to their shock, Hezbollah kicked their ass despite their best efforts and Iran has gamed the world to the point that they WILL get a nuke. Israel has to take a lot of blame. Their resolute right-wing politics mean they backed the most repressive means they could devise to just humiliate Arabs (and Persians). They screech about suicide bombers, but feel no compunction about assassinating anyone they don't like. Death penalty, no trial. I've lost all sympathy for them, and I used to have a lot. The hell with them. And it's time to get rid of the Israeli fifth column in Washington. PNAC, the far right Christian types, Lieberman...they all gotta go. I vote for people to represent ME, not Israel.
Yeah, they not only got their asses kicked, they were exposed as JUST AS BAD as the Iraqi insurgents and Al Qaeda. They destroyed a country, killed thousands of innocent civilians, to get at Hezbollah. Hezbollah kicked their asses and took almost no losses. These fascists were going to invade, no matter what, by October, if Hezbollah had not given them an excuse. Now, Israeli troops were crossing over the border routinely to screw with Hezbollah, and Hezbollah was returning the favor. In one firefight, Hezbollah not only won, it took prisoners and demanded a prisoner exchange. Israel refused and proceeded to bomb every highway, bridge and literally half the buildings in Lebanon, thinking they could waltz in and round up all of Hezbollah. This might be the greatest misjudgment since Hitler decided to take St. Petersburg. It was a rout, and it has totally destroyed Israel's image as invincible and its citizens' faith in the government to protect them. Just wait til Hezbollah gets its mitts on guided missiles. If I were a sane Israeli, I'd be looking for a nice patch of land in Brazil or Canada to start a kibbutz.
That compliment is a real thigh slapper... Abbas a man of courage? Since when? Wasn't it not too long ago that the DC neocons and the Israelis were crapping their drawers about Abbas and were calling Abbas every bad anti-semite name under the sun, for a research paper he wrote about the Holocaust when he was a college student a zillion years ago. Now Abbas is a saint. It's amazing how a politician's reputation can be "cleansed" with the passage of time.
Seriously, what are we doing supporting such evil? Except they have our Congress in their pocket. It's a real racket and not helping US, the world or even Israel; their leaders are insane.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers I also meant to compliment you on your funny and well articulated posts, but I got side tracked on Abbas the newly discovered saint of the ME.
I am so with ya on this.
Back when they were the underdog, I could understand it. Now they are turning into the strutting brownshirts that they detest. Religious lunatics of whatever stripe are dangerous. They never seem to remember that their books say things like turn the other cheek and do unto others; they seem to concentrate on the smite and eye-for-an-eye parts. When you have a society based on some delusion that God likes you better than your next door neighbor, you have all the elements you need to have a really good old fascist time. That's why the theocrats that are running a good chunk of the Repuke Party scare the hell out of me. I don't want to live in some country where the Salem Witch Trials are considered the good old days.
Interesting, that's exactly what happened to me. I started out with sympathy and now my feelings have evolved to antipathy. Israel should stay out of American politics and Israelis should defend Israel with their own blood and treasure. And I'm sick to death of hearing the anti-semite slurs and the Holocaust victimhood whine.
I remember an old argument for allowing Israel nukes and and not allowing the other Arab states to have them. Some of the right wing guys would say that Israel would only use them in defense, the Arabs would use them offensively. That justified the double standard. Looks like this one is out the window now.
Me too. Being anti-Zionist is now somehow being anti-semitic. And why are we giving them a billion a month in military aid? Are they somehow deprived that way? If they want to live there, let them pay for their own damn missiles. I really used to be pro-Israel. Not in a big way, but definitely on their side. They've completely burned up all that goodwill. Assassinating people without proof, with no interest in whether a bunch of kids go with the alleged super-terrorist was really the last straw, but stealing land so a bunch of punks from Brooklyn could get cheap rent is what really did it. Taking orchards that had been in a family for literally centuries, because God said they could, showed the complete arrogance and fascism that has become the ruling clique there. The majority of Israelis are not like that, but they let these clowns take over and aren't lifting a finger to stop them, so screw them. Sharon stomping around the Temple Mount and virtually pissing on the Palestinians down below, dressed in jackboots, was possibly the stupidest thing the man could have done. He got power, all right, but he doomed Israel. My Jewish buddies say it was doomed anyway and they have to pick a fight now to put the Arabs down, but once you piss away the moral high ground, you are doomed. Sort of like our little dictatortot claiming he can torture anyone he wants, and thinking the rest of the world will just tug their forelock and say "yassuh, massa." He's dooming us, in the long run. We were once respected and even loved in most of the world. Now they actively hate us and spit on us as a fascist empire. And shame on us for not bringing these nazis down, putting them on trial, and doing what is done to most traitors. And I am paying top dollar for a good seat.
Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni
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widespread dissatisfaction with the conduct and outcome of Israel's summer war against Hezbollah.
#6. To: Mekons4 (#5)
On the sidelines of the summit on Wednesday, President Bush called Abbas a "man of courage"
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I've lost all sympathy for them, and I used to have a lot. The hell with them. And it's time to get rid of the Israeli fifth column in Washington. PNAC, the far right Christian types, Lieberman...they all gotta go. I vote for people to represent ME, not Israel.
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And it's time to get rid of the Israeli fifth column in Washington. PNAC, the far right Christian types, Lieberman...they all gotta go. I vote for people to represent ME, not Israel
#10. To: robin (#7)
Seriously, what are we doing supporting such evil?
#11. To: Mekons4 (#4)
I've lost all sympathy for them, and I used to have a lot. The hell with them.
#12. To: tom007 (#0)
#13. To: scrapper2 (#11)
And I'm sick to death of hearing the anti-semite slurs and the Holocaust victimhood whine.
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