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Title: Out of America: Behind the bronze doors of the masons' HQ
Source: Independent News & Media (UK)
URL Source: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article1726101.ece
Published: Sep 24, 2006
Author: Rupert Cornwell
Post Date: 2006-09-24 19:59:44 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 934
Comments: 59

Far from being the secretive cult of legend, Freemasonry is openly built into the US capital's very fabric

Published: 24 September 2006

Is this the most masonic city on Earth? I can't helping thinking so, just after one of the more memorable TV interviews I have given, in terms of the setting at least. The topic was the role of a renegade Freemasons' lodge in the downfall and death of Roberto Calvi, the Italian banker found hanged under a bridge in London in 1982.

But where to do the interview? Washington had no links with the Calvi affair (unless of course you believe the whole thing was the work of the CIA). The production director, however, came up with an inspired location: the dark, panelled library of the House of the Temple, the US headquarters of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry on 16th Street NW. Thus it was that I finally got a look at a building I had driven past almost every day for the past five years, wondering what was inside.

I was not disappointed. The place is quite astonishing, designed in 1911 and modelled on the Mausoleum of Halicarnassus in what is now Turkey, one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. The great bronze external doors are guarded by sphinxes. Inside is a cavernous hall supported by black columns. Everything is polished stone. The designs are geometric, the motifs Egyptian. For the rest, though, the temple defied my preconceptions of Freemasonry.

In Europe at least, Freemasonry is a mystery of secret rites and occult power, the stuff of a million conspiracy theories. None more so, of course, than Propaganda Due, or P-2, the lodge involved in the Calvi case, a veritable state-within-a-state, linked to attempted coups, right-wing terrorism and skulduggery of every variety.

Not so the splendid temple on 16th Street. A guide proudly showed me around, taking me to see the great collection of books owned by the poet Robert Burns and the "Freemasons' Hall of Fame", featuring the likes of the politician Bob Dole and the golfer Arnold Palmer. Then there was the library itself, with 250,000 volumes and a fabulous collection of masonic memorabilia, and the assembly room where the Supreme Council for the Rite's 33rd Degree, its highest, holds its meetings.

In its US incarnation, Freemasonry is primarily a social and philanthropic organisation. "We are not a religion, we don't hold services and pray," I was told. The only requirement is a broad belief in God. Beyond that, anyone - Christian, Jew or Muslim - is welcome. Essentially it is one of those brotherhoods of which Americans are fond.

George Washington was a mason, and so were 13 other Presidents, most recently Gerald Ford. Freemasonry is ideologically entwined with America's birth. Back in the 18th century the movement was identified with the Enlightenment and resistance to the obscurantist rule of the church and absolute monarchies. Of those who signed the Declaration of Independence, nine were masons, as were 13 of the signatories of the US constitution.

Just across the river in Alexandria is the George Washington Masonic Memorial, inspired by the lighthouse in ancient Alexandria in Egypt, another of the seven wonders. There are said to be masonic connections between the White House and the Capitol building; some believe that the entire city is designed on a masonic plan. And look on the back of a dollar bill. The pyramid and "all-seeing eye" above it have strong masonic connotations.

American Freemasonry is no furtive creature of the dark, as far from the malevolent P-2 as you can imagine. But it too has problems - or rather competitors. There are new outlets aplenty for philanthropy and giving. Generation X-ers seem less inclined to take the trouble of joining, while the movement must cope with the resurgence of organised religion. Membership has fallen from a peak of around four million in the 1950s to 1.5 million today.

Paradoxically, mason- ry's lingering mystique could yet rescue its popularity. Templars, masons and other ancient orders are all the rage. Dan Brown has a new book out next year called The Solomon Key, which is believed to deal with Freemasonry, Washington and the Founding Fathers.

Some fear that it will do for the masons' reputation what The Da Vinci Code did for Opus Dei. But in the US, the latter's sinister aura is entirely absent from Freemasonry. And nowhere is this absence more evident than here, amid the broad vistas and handsome buildings of Washington, the mason's city par excellence.

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#20. To: SKYDRIFTER, Brian S (#19)

Christianity starts as Judaism!

The Myth of a Judeo-Christian Tradition

http://www.biblebelievers.o rg.au/judeindx.htm

From 1900 onward, what did Freemasonry do which is "vile?"

WARNING: the first one shut me down each of the three times I tried it.

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AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-27   12:03:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: SKYDRIFTER, Brian S, All (#19)

Freemasonry is Judaism

========================

Christianity starts as Judaism!

MEDIEVAL HISTORIAN CONCLUSIVELY SHOWS THAT FREEMASONRY CAME FROM KNIGHTS TEMPLAR, NOT FROM CHRISTIANITY!

"..........One of the enduring debates within Christian circles is whether Freemasonry is compatible with Christianity generally and the Holy Bible specifically. Masonic writers have always maintained that they are compatible with Christian doctrine, and they point with pride to the fact that American and British Freemasonry quotes extensively from the Holy Bible. They point to their famous Hiram Abiff allegory that seemingly traces the origin of Freemasonry back to the Biblical king, King Solomon, when he was building the Temple. However, when we compare their religious teachings against the doctrines of the Bible, we discover that Freemasonry cannot be Christian, as they teach Salvation by Works [Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma, page 399], and believe Jesus Christ to have been an Illusion and His death an Illusion [Ibid., page 567], teachings which form the very basis for the Biblical definition of Antichrist. [1 John 4:1-9]...."

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news /n1164.cfm

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Judeo-Freemasonry and the false cornerstone/false temple [God did not say He would rebuild the Temple of Solomon, but the TABERNACLE ["Tent"] of David. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Amo/9/11.html ]

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Psa 118:22 The stone [which] the builders refused is become the head [stone] of the corner.

Psa 118:23 This is the LORD'S doing; it [is] marvellous in our eyes.

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/tsk_b/Psa/118/22.html

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1Ki 5:2 And Solomon sent to Hiram, saying,

1Ki 5:3 Thou knowest how that David my father could not build an house unto the name of the LORD his God for the wars which were about him on every side, until the LORD put them under the soles of his feet.

1Ki 5:4 But now the LORD my God hath given me rest on every side, [so that there is] neither adversary nor evil occurrent.

1Ki 5:5 And, behold, I purpose to build an house unto the name of the LORD my God, as the LORD spake unto David my father, saying, Thy son, whom I will set upon thy throne in thy room, he shall build an house unto my name.

1Ki 5:6 Now therefore command thou that they hew me cedar trees out of Lebanon; and my servants shall be with thy servants: and unto thee will I give hire for thy servants according to all that thou shalt appoint: for thou knowest that [there is] not among us any that can skill to hew timber like unto the Sidonians.

1Ki 5:7 ¶ And it came to pass, when Hiram heard the words of Solomon, that he rejoiced greatly, and said, Blessed [be] the LORD this day, which hath given unto David a wise son over this great people.

1Ki 5:8 And Hiram sent to Solomon, saying, I have considered the things which thou sentest to me for: [and] I will do all thy desire concerning timber of cedar, and concerning timber of fir.

1Ki 5:9 My servants shall bring [them] down from Lebanon unto the sea: and I will convey them by sea in floats unto the place that thou shalt appoint me, and will cause them to be discharged there, and thou shalt receive [them]: and thou shalt accomplish my desire, in giving food for my household.

1Ki 5:10 So Hiram gave Solomon cedar trees and fir trees [according to] all his desire.

1Ki 5:11 And Solomon gave Hiram twenty thousand measures of wheat [for] food to his household, and twenty measures of pure oil: thus gave Solomon to Hiram year by year.

1Ki 5:12 And the LORD gave Solomon wisdom, as he promised him: and there was peace between Hiram and Solomon; and they two made a league together.

1Ki 5:13 ¶ And king Solomon raised a levy out of all Israel; and the levy was thirty thousand men.

1Ki 5:14 And he sent them to Lebanon, ten thousand a month by courses: a month they were in Lebanon, [and] two months at home: and Adoniram [was] over the levy.

1Ki 5:15 And Solomon had threescore and ten thousand that bare burdens, and fourscore thousand hewers in the mountains;

1Ki 5:16 Beside the chief of Solomon's officers which [were] over the work, three thousand and three hundred, which ruled over the people that wrought in the work.

1Ki 5:17 And the king commanded, and they brought great stones, costly stones, [and] hewed stones, to lay the foundation of the house.

1Ki 5:18 And Solomon's builders and Hiram's builders did hew [them], and the stonesquarers: so they prepared timber and stones to build the house.

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/1Ki/1Ki005.html#5

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Isa 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner [stone], a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

1Cr 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe [he is] precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,.......

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/1Ki/5/17.html

http://www.blueletterbi ble.org/tsk_b/1Pe/2/7.html

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1Ki 5:5 — And, behold, I purpose to build an house unto the name of the LORD my God, as the LORD spake unto David my father, saying, Thy son, whom I will set upon thy throne in thy room, he shall build an house unto my name.

http://www.blueletterbi ble.org/tsk_b/1Ki/5/5.html

1Ki 5:5 — And, behold, I purpose to build an house unto the name of the LORD my God, as the LORD spake unto David my father, saying, Thy son, whom I will set upon thy throne in thy room, he shall build an house unto my name.

http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/2Sa/7/12.html

+ + + + + + 1Ch 22:9 — Behold, a son shall be born to thee, who shall be a man of rest; and I will give him rest from all his enemies round about: for his name shall be Solomon, [+++ i.e., "Peaceable", as in PRINCE OF PEACE Isaiah 9:6-7. See http://www.blueletterb ible.org/tsk_b/1Ch/22/9.html ] and I will give peace and quietness unto Israel [see THE CHURCH IS ISRAEL NOW at preteristarchive.com] in his days.

1Ch 22:10 He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I [will be] his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel [home of CHRISTIANS] for ever.

http://www.bluelette rbible.org/kjv/1Ch/1Ch022.html#9

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Zec 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Zec/6/12.html

Zec 6:13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, [as unto] a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, [and] precious,

1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a +++ spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

1Cr 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and [that] the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

1Cr 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

2Cr 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in [them]; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];

Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

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Judeo-Freemasonry, 2,000 years trying to rebuild the temple God doesn't want rebuilt, is not the basis of Christianity.

Mic 4:1 — But in the last days it shall come to pass, [that] the mountain of the house of the LORD shall be established in the top of the mountains, and it shall be exalted above the hills; and people shall flow unto it.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mic/4/1.html

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Psa/2/6.html

http://www.nps.gov/archive/colo/capeheny/capeheny.html

Ezekiel 17:1-10/Matthew 15:13.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-27   13:57:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Brian S (#0)

Hey, Brian. This looks like a good flick, although I can't view the trailer, because my computer is just too old.

Item Name: DVD - Secret Mysteries of America's Beginnings: Volume One -- The New Atlantis

Category: Illuminati Plan

" Nearly 3 hours of intensity! Official selection of the New York Film Festival for quality and historic content The greatest "Whodunit" of the past 500 years! Secret Mysteries takes the mystery out of America's history. This video unfolds the fascinating history behind the founding of America, and exposes the esoteric underbelly of its design. Why is Washington D.C. build on the 77th Meridian? Are the Revolutionary War cities really built in perfect alignment with Stonehenge? If America was founded as a Christian nation, why are many of its symbols, buildings, and monuments based on Pagan traditions? There is no doubt that much of America’s national heritage was Christian, but just as a coin has two sides, our national heritage has a second side – one based squarely on occult secret societies and their values.

To find the answer to these questions, we follow the journey of secret societies from England to the New World and learn of their ancient hope: to rebuild the lost empire of Atlantis........."

http://www.cuttingedge.org/ detail.cfm?ID=1134

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-27   14:05:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Christine, Honway, Aristeides, All (#22)

Pike died over 100 years ago, and his opinions did NOT become the ruling attitude or belief of Freemasonry - at that time, or any other.

Does history not accomodate your ''druthers?'

Well....?

What's your quarrel with an organization which dispenses over a million dollars a day to charity? If the Masons had any significant level of corruption to them, I wouldn't be a member. Further, if they had any significant 'power,' I'd still be flying airliners. Note again my contribution to the 9-11 movement; one of the "...tenets of Freemasontry" being TRUTH!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-27   18:15:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: richard9151 (#6)

but then ALL Masons are nut cases.

I don't consider myself a nutcase. I have not met any nutcases in Masonry that I can think of.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-09-27   18:24:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, All (#6)

I totally agree... but then ALL Masons are nut cases. I have known more than a few, and the only thing they all agree on is making sure each of them profits from the association. AND THEY DO!

I have yet to be as much as offered a job; what the hell are you talking about?

Sure it happens; as it does amongst Elks, Eagles, Moose or members of the same Church.

Got a problem with that?

If Masons are so secretive; what the hell do you know; anyway? You can't have it both ways - fool!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-27   18:44:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Brian S, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, All (#4)

Masons recruiting???


I'd be curious as to the content of that radio ad; recruiting is, historically, a major offense, amongst Masons.

In a Candidate's initial reception:

"Do you seriously declare, upon your honor, that, unbiased by improper solicitation of friends, and uninfluenced by mercenarty motives..."

Times can change, but that's not a change that I'd expect. Each State has its own Jurisdiction (rules), but that would be a real surprise to me. (There is no 'national' Jurisdiction.)


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-27   18:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, all (#22)

Illuminati Plan

http://www.freemasonrywat ch.org/washington.html

You are about to learn that the U.S. Government is linked to Satanism.

The street design in Washington, D.C., has been laid out in such a manner that certain Luciferic symbols are depicted by the streets, cul-de-sacs and rotaries. This design was created in 1791, a few years after Freemasonry assumed the leadership of the New World Order, in 1782.

In Europe, occult leaders were told by their Familiar Spirits as early as the 1740's that the new American continent was to be established as the new "Atlantis", and its destiny was to assume the global leadership of the drive to the New World Order.

The United States of America was chosen to lead the world into this kingdom of Antichrist from the beginning. The capital is Washington, D.C.

In 1791, Pierre Charles L'Enfante(the designer, who was a Freemason), laid out Governmental Center of Washington, D.C., he planned more than just streets, roads, and buildings. He hid certain occultic magical symbols in the layout of U.S. Governmental Center. When these symbols are united they become one large Luciferic, or occultic, symbol.

What has happened in Washington, DC, is not an accident, and not a coincidence. It was planned from the begining, and that includes that dubious document, the Constitution, which is one of the most complicated documents ever written.

http://www.amazon.com/Secret-Architecture-Our-Nations- Capital/dp/0060195371

The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital : The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C.

http://ke4gdx.mine.nu/misc/gov /washington/

Constitutional Authority Revealed

The Truth About The Federal Reserve

Captain Morgan's Secret Book on Freemasonry

The List of Secret Masonic Handbooks

Meanings of Masonic Symbolisms - Satellite & Maps of Washington DC

... Anyone who has seen the Pentagon knows how they brag of it's enormous size and how a special alphabet and numbering system was incorporated in order to get around the building. Well, let's compare that with the size of the pentagram represented by the layout of the streets within Washington. On Washington map 36 you'll see the Pentagon (a massive structure) is extremely small in size by comparison to the pentagram in the layout of Washington's streets and the stick figure with the bunny ears (the ancient symbol used to depict lucifer, the devil, or satan).

The Pentagon location and it's positioning was chosen by 33¼ freemason FDR. The corner stone was laid in a masonic ceremony on 9-11-1941. The GAO cornerstone was also laid on 9-11, in the year 1951. I have to wonder, if I am the only one to see a pattern here? Why would terrorists from some cave in Afganistan select these identical dates? What possible meaning could these dates have to terrorists? The answer is, they didn't. Government personel, involved in a secret society known as the freemasons did. Jet fuel cannot turn concrete into dust, it also is not capable of catapulting debris all the way to New Jersey, only explosives are. Those buildings collapsed in 8 seconds, which is equivilent to unobstructed freefall speed. If a building was collapsing the descent would be slowed by each successive floor it hit, running into resistance at each level. We have all seen the 9-11 videos over and over, they are permanently etched into our minds. Those buildings fell straight down without any resistance whatsoever. Which leads me to a few other questions. Could Osama bin Laden block the investigation and then transport all of the steel to Japan to be melted down before it could be forensically examined and tested? Could Osama bin Laden confiscate the video tapes from the Sheraton, the gas station on Route 110 near the Pentagon, and the Virginia Deptartment of Transportation video cameras and keep them from the public? The only people capable of these acts were not in a cave in Afganistan. The 9-11 date clearly means something to these people, it is even used as an emergeency contact number which every person in america is forced to pay for whether they use it or not. It is clear they have been using it since long before the founding of the city of Washington DC (District of Columbia) and it's use continues still today. ...

And on and on. But the real proof is that the fruit of the tree is evidence of the worth and quality of the tree, and I think that we all know the fruit of the tree - i.e., Washington, DC. IT IS AS IT WAS INTENDED TO BE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. And for those of you who do not know of the connection, try this;

http://www.remnantofgod.org/bla ckpope.htm

So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on the “conspiracy” playing field? You’ve maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the scenes.

You’ve gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word “Jew” to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguised from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called “elite” families)—the Rothschilds in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional “master deceivers” commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their “fallen angel” cohorts.

While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing Link in this entire structure. And I don’t mean a little side issue; I mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from general public view, and for so long—that even the most studied of “conspiracy theory” scholars probably have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented here.

To call the following outlay “controversial” and “sensitive” is about as mild an understatement of the truth of the matter as can be made! This missing link changes the entire slant of the entire playing field!

After months of anticipation and weeks of preparation, I was finally able to speak with Vatican Assassins author Eric Jon Phelps on Tuesday, March 14. There was simply no other way to cover Eric’s historic masterpiece spanning, literally, five centuries, than to just ask questions covering huge spans of time and major historical events. It took us almost four hours to accomplish the task, yet we could easily have gone on for another forty.

We here at The SPECTRUM are simply unwilling to reduce the importance of this work by presenting it in a too distilled fashion. In fact, in order to share this material with at least some of the pertinent backup, Eric has granted us permission to print (directly after the interview) several excerpts from his soon-to-be-published book which will help you in understanding certain aspects of this magnificently important and broad-sweeping story. The missing link is surely a central link.

Let’s call this story the “Jesuit-Vatican connection” to the unfolding New World Order agenda. You make up your own mind just how absolutely central, yet well hidden, has been this link! There’s a good reason the secret Vatican library is so extensive and yet remains so intact from outside intrusion, despite the many others who would like to possess such a collection of information detailing much “censored” data about our true, otherworldy cultural heritage.

When one reads a work like Vatican Assassins, one can’t help but reflect back on the purposely “adjusted” and watered down and boring moments in high school history class. Meanwhile, the true history of what has gone on is dynamic and full of calculated intrigue.

In this business, I’ve heard and read a lot of things. But when I had to pick my jaw up off the floor during the reading of certain historical portions in Eric’s book—well, let me just say that Truth certainly is stranger, and far more interesting, than the many fictions we’ve been led to believe are historical fact. And yet The Truth does fit together like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle.

This book SHOULD be a best-seller, but it is hardly likely to achieve such general attention—considering how well controlled and censored is the publishing business. Thus is the reason for our lengthy presentation of this most astonishing and critically important material here in The SPECTRUM.

We are in a time of Truth being revealed from all directions. And there is probably no more fundamental, mind-rattling, and previous notions-shattering example of that than what is being presented here. The interview is directly followed by a number of pertinent excerpts from Eric’s eye-opening book—which will be available July 1.

[Editor’s note: It should be noted up-front that the information presented below is the studied opinion of Eric Jon Phelps. We here at The SPECTRUM find much about his presentation of his historical research which meshes with and expands upon Truth which has been presented by many other authors in these pages and elsewhere. And that is good; Truth is Truth is Truth, and should all mesh. ...

You should by all means go to this site and read the entire story; IT IS WORTH YOUR TIME! And note this; the land on which Washington, DC, sets was principly a gift from a Jesuit society. And the Black Pope is head of the Illuminatti and of the Jesuits. By extension, that means he is the head of the Masonic fraturnity as well, and, it does not matter if the Masons understand, accept, or admit this; nothing changes how things work together to arrive at a predetermined place and time.

Here is another site filled with info; http://www.bibliotecapl eyades.net/esp_vatican.htm

The most important thing that can be said about these sites and the information that they contain is that the information explains so many of the unexplainable things in history. Enjoy

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-27   19:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: SKYDRIFTER, all (#25)

If Masons are so secretive; what the hell do you know; anyway? You can't have it both ways - fool!

Yes, I can. Principally because I have been writing for many years, and while most of my material concerned health issues, I have written extensively on the Constitution and law. Because of that, I have had many, many people talk to me that would not talk to ordinary people, because they knew I knew, and, in some cases, because they wanted what they knew to see the light of day. This included men who worked as drivers in the military in Japan after WWII, people involved in medical fields, at least two Masons, and others. And please do not bother to ask where it was all published. Most of it, more than 1500 pages, was published and circulated privately, reaching, that I know of, in excess of 15,000 people. That is what I know of. From there, I would have no idea of how many have read it, and, of those that I do know of, most of those who read the material did so as Lessons AND TOOK SEPARATE TESTS ON THE SECTIONS. And, if I may add this, not one error was found and confirmed by any of those thousands of people. So, skydrifter, not all things are as they seem.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-27   19:15:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: richard9151 (#28)

Sure, Masons used to be famous for taking care of each other - as do Church members. That was before the days of unions and labor laws; add the public charities, such as "unemployment."

In today's world, you rarely hear of such.

This is 2006 - what's your freakin' problem??

You claim that Masonry is a "secret" society - if you know so much, where are the 'secrets?'

(The 'secrets' havent't been around past at least the mid 1800's when major expose's were published. You can still buy reproductions of those books - and they are still very accurate.)

"Secret Society?" Where are the 'secrets?' That's so much left-over intrigue; which makes the "Degrees" interesting.

You want the "Full Monty" of Freemasonry; look up "saintsaliveforjesus." There are no "secrets."

BUT - You're a self-impressed asshole, that's a fact!



SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-27   20:07:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: SKYDRIFTER (#26)

I don't know if Connecticut actually advertised, but I know at least once recently, the Grand Lodge did 3 degrees in one day for candidates, which I think was rather distasteful. I don't know how many candidates participated, but it was a couple dozen I think.

It kinda cheapens the whole thing.

We had one candidate that wanted to do the 3 degrees in one day, but myself and another brother talked him out of it. He would miss too much. One of the things I enjoyed the most about my own little journey, was getting to know the members and working with some on the lectures, attending the regular communications, cooking meals when we held dinners etc. I think my attachment to the Lodge would have been nil otherwise. To take 3 degrees in one day removes the incentive to get involved in the regular lodge functions where the feeling of brotherhood is born.

I had taken my EA degree and then the following communication was our Grand Lodge inspection and it was based on the EA degree. They needed a "candidate" so I immediately vounteered. I wanted to do it again without the nervousness of the first time around. It was great! hehehe

I learned my lectures right away and did the EA lecture when we intitiated another candidate about 2 weeks later. That was my test for the Fellowcraft Degree, and I did the same for his Fellowcraft and so on down the line. I just love all that stuff. How anyone could want to shortcut it, I will never understand. And if one does want to shortcut it, then do I really want to call him my brother? hmmmmm.....

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-09-27   22:25:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: SKYDRIFTER (#29)

You can still buy reproductions of those books - and they are still very accurate

I have bought original ritual handbooks in used books stores dating back to the late 1800s, and you could use them today. There are no "secrets", like you say.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-09-27   22:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Indrid Cold, skydrifter (#12)

I'll be poisoning the wells in no time!

You were always a quick study.

tom007  posted on  2006-09-27   22:37:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Critter (#31)

I scanned a huge "E-Library" for the Grand Lodge of Washington (State) - as a personal project. [I think I'm up to 150 volumes, 85 titles.] The old-farts pretend that the files are a myth. Really sad!

The "Senior Factor" is really hurting the Craft. Even the local "Research Lodge" ignores those files.

I may get pissed & sell them on E-bay.

In the meantime, any detractors are going to sweat to get past me! {:-))


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-27   22:44:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Critter (#30)

Washington occasionally does the "One-day Degrees," for those desperately short on time. I've assisted a few of those.

You're correct, they leave a lot to be desired. When I joined, we had to recite the entire Posting Lecture for all three degrees - whew!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-27   22:50:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: SKYDRIFTER, Brian S, All (#23)

Pike died over 100 years ago, and his opinions did NOT become the ruling attitude or belief of Freemasonry - at that time, or any other.

Does history not accomodate your ''druthers?'

Well....?

Well...........

I GUESS SOMEONE FORGOT TO TELL PRESIDENT WILSON, FREEMASON FDR AND SKULL AND BONESMAN GEORGE BUSH, BECAUSE THEY ALL FOLLOWED PIKE'S PLAN FOR TOTALITARIANISM UNDER THE JUDEO-MASONIC-JESUIT NEW WORLD ORDER:

"...."Long before Marconi invented the radio; the scientists in the Illuminati had found the means for Pike and the heads of his councils to communicate secretly. It was the discovery of that secret that enabled intelligence-officers to understand how apparently unrelated incidents; such as the assassination of an Austrian Prince in Serbia; took place simultaneously throughout the world, which developed into a war or a revolution. Pike's plan was as simple as it has proved effective. It called for communism, nazism, political zionism, and other international movements to be organized and used to foment three global world wars and at least two major revolutions.

"The first world war was to be fought so as to enable the Illuminati to destroy Czarism in Russia, as vowed by Rothschild after the Czar had torpedoed his scheme at the Congress in Vienna, and to transform Russia into a stronghold of atheistic-communism. The differences stirred up by agents of the Illuminati between the British and German Empires were to be used to foment this war. After the war would be ended; communism was to be built up and used to destroy other governments and weaken religions.

"World War II, when and if necessary, was to be fomented by using the controversies between Fascists and political zionists, and here let it be noted that Hitler was financed by Krupp, the Warburgs, the Rothschilds, and other internationalist bankers and that the slaughter of the supposed 6,000,000 Jews by Hitler didn't bother the Jewish internationalist bankers at all. That slaughter was necessary in order to create worldwide-hatred of the German people and thus bring about war against them. In short; this second world war was to be fought to destroy nazism and increase the power of political Zionism **** so that the state of Israel could be established in Palestine.

"During this World War II; international communism was to be built up until it equalled in strength that of united Christendom. When it reached that point; it was to be contained and kept in check until required for the final social-cataclysm. As we know now; Roosevelt, Churchill, and Stalin put that exact policy into effect and Truman, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Johnson, {and later George Bush} continued that same exact policy.

"World War III is to be fomented, using the so-called controversies; by the agents of the Illuminati operating under whatever new name; that are now being stored up between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. That war is to be directed in such a manner that all of Islam and political Zionism (Israelis) will destroy each other while at the same time; the remaining nations, once more divided on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion; physically, mentally, spiritually, and economically.

"Now can any thinking person doubt that the intrigue now going on [THIS WAS WRITTEN IN THE 1960'S] in the near Middle and Far-East is designed to accomplish that satanic objective? **** Pike himself foretold all this in a statement he made to Mazzini on August 15, 1871. Pike stated that after World War III is ended; those who will aspire to undisputed world-domination will provoke the greatest social-cataclysm the world has ever known. Quoting his own words taken from the letter he wrote to Mazzini and which letter is now catalogued in the British Museum in London, England; he said:

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social-cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute-atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

"When Mazzini died in 1872; Pike made another revolutionary leader named Adrian Lemmy; his successor. Lemmy, in turn, was succeeded by Lenin and Trotsky, then by Stalin. The revolutionary activities of all those men were financed by British, French, German, and American international bankers; all of them dominated by the House of Rothschild. We are supposed to believe that the international bankers of today, like the money-changers of Christ's day, are only the tools or agents of the great conspiracy, but actually they are the masterminds behind all the mass-communications media leading us into believing that communism is a movement of the so-called workers; the actual fact is that both British and American intelligence-officers have authentic documentary- evidence that international liberals, operating through their international banking houses; particularly the House of Rothschild, have financed both sides of every war and revolution since 1776.

"Those who today comprise the conspiracy (the CFR in the United States and the RIIA in Britain); direct our governments whom they hold in usury through such methods as the Federal Reserve System in America to fight wars, such as Vietnam (created by the United Nations), so as **** to further Pike's Illuminati plans to bring the world to that stage of the conspiracy when atheistic-communism and the whole of Christianity can be forced into an all-out third world war within each remaining nation as well as on an international basis scale......."

THE ILLUMINATI AND THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS

Someone also forgot to tell the "Jews" who created and control Freemasonry:

Speeches delivered at the B'nai B'rith Convention in Paris explain Luther's changed attitude toward "Jews":

"As long as there remains among the Gentiles any moral conception of the social order, and until all faith, patriotism, and dignity are uprooted, our reign over the world shall not come . . . And . . . We have induced some of our children to join the Christian Body, with the explicit intimation that they should work in a still more efficient way for the disintegration of the Christian Church, by creating scandals within her. We have thus followed the advice of our Prince of the Jews, who so wisely said: 'Let some of your children become cannons, so that they may destroy the Church.' Unfortunately, not all among the 'convert' the Gentiles, in their stupidity, have proved easier dupes than we expected them to be. One would expect more intelligence and more practical common sense, but they are no better than a herd of sheep. Let them graze in our fields till they become fat enough to be worthy of being immolated to our future King of the World . . . ***** We have founded many secret associations, which all work for our purpose, under our orders and our direction. We have made it an honor, a great honor, for the Gentiles to join us in our organizations (such as Masonry), which are, thanks to our gold, flourishing now more than ever. Yet it remains our secret that those Gentiles who betray their own and most precious interests, by joining us in our plot, should never know that those associations are of our creation, and that they serve our purpose. One of the many triumphs of ***** our Freemasonry is that those Gentiles who become members of our Lodges, should never suspect that we are using them to build their own jails, upon whose terraces we shall erect the throne of our Universal King of the Jews; and should never know that we are commanding them to forge the chains of their own servility to our future King of the World Jews have proved faithful to their mission. Many of them have even betrayed us! But, on the other hand, others have kept their promise and honored their word. Thus the counsel of our Elders has proved successful. We are the Fathers of all Revolutions, even of those which sometimes happen to turn against us. We are the supreme Masters of Peace and War. We can boast of being the Creators of the Reformation!

Calvin was one of our Children; he was of Jewish descent, and was entrusted by Jewish authority and encouraged with Jewish finance to draft his scheme in the Reformation. Martin Luther yielded to the influence of his Jewish friends unknowingly, and again, by Jewish authority, and with Jewish finance, his plot against the Catholic Church met with success. But unfortunately he discovered the deception, and became a threat to us, so we disposed of him as we have so many others who dare to oppose us. . . (Phillip II, by William Thomas Walsh, p. 248: 'The origin of Calvin' (whose real name was Chauvin). See also: Lucin Wolf, in Transactions, Jewish Historical Society of England, Vol. XI, p. 8; Goris, Les Colonies Marchandes Meridionales à Anvers; Lea, History of the Inquisition of Spain, III, 413).

Many countries, including the United States have already fallen for our scheming. But the Christian Church is still alive . . . We must destroy it without the least delay and without the slightest mercy. Most of the Press in the world is under our Control; let us therefore encourage in a still more violent way the hatred of the world against the Christian Church. Let us intensify our activities in poisoning the morality of the Gentiles. Let us spread the spirit of revolution in the minds of the people. They must be made to despise Patriotism and the love of their family, to consider their faith as a humbug, their obedience to their Christ as a degrading servility, so that they become deaf to the appeal of the Church and blind to her warnings against us. Let us, above all, make it impossible for Christians to be reunited, or for non-Christians to join the Church; otherwise the greatest obstruction to our domination will be strengthened and all our work undone. Our plot will be unveiled, the Gentiles will turn against us, in the spirit of revenge, and our domination over them will never be realized. Let us remember that as long as there still remain active enemies of the Christian Church, we may hope to become Master of the World . . . And let us remember always that the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown . . . " (London Catholic Gazette, February, 1936; and in Paris Le Reveil du Peuple). luther.htm

THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES

http://www.biblebelievers.org .au/luther.htm

PRESIDENT WILSON WAS A JEW, AS WAS FDR, AND AS IS GEORGE W BUSH

Search_Willie_Martin_Studies All Words Any Words Exact Phrase ...Of Woodrow Wilson the famous Dr. HJ Boldt wrote as follows: "Woodrow Wilson was a Sephardic Jew... The name of his parents was Wohlson -- a German-Jewish ...[Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson also Jews] http://www.israelect.com/reference/ Willie-Martin/PoliticalJews.html

Roosevelt The Jewish Traitor By Willie Martin. Jew Watch. Many people, such as my parents, worshiped the Jewish President Franklin D. Roosevelt as the ... http://christianparty.net/wm/wm 0143a.html

Exposing Satanism Witchcraft and the New World Order One thing I discovered is that George W. Bush is [JEWISH AND] a devoted student of the Jewish Talmud, just as were Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Stalin. ... http://www.exposingsatanism.org/bush-jewish.htm

United States Presidents and The Illuminati / Masonic Power Structure President Monroe was related to President Richard Nixon. (Everything is Under Control. Conspiracies, Cults, and Cover-Ups by Robert Anton Wilson pg 39-40) ... ht tp://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasons.htm -

United States Presidents and The Illuminati / Masonic Power ...The other important issue is that Garfield was a Freemason. ... It was House who persuaded President Wilson to sign the Federal Reserve Act. President ... http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasonspt2.htm

Hidden Mysteries Conspiracy Archive US PRESIDENTS AND FREEMASONRY. Although the dark agenda group on this planet ... Also, it was House who persuaded President Wilson to sign the Federal ... http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/ conspiracy/research/masonpres.html

WW3 - The True Cause of World War 1 President Wilson was not pleased, possibly because he saw himself, ... The Grand Orient Lodge of Freemasonry of France was one which advised all of its ... http://www.threeworldwars.com/world-war-1/ww1-2.htm -

The All-Seeing Eye, the President, the Secretary & the Guru President Franklin D Roosevelt, also a 32nd degree freemason, ... When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the ... http://www.conspi racyarchive.com/NWO/All_Seeing_Eye.htm -

US Masonic History 101President Wilson's assessment of the motivations of the Masonic framers of the ... In his book, Freemasonry in American History, the Masonic scholar, ...

http://freemasonrywatch.org/h istory101.html - The Red Dragon and the Black Beast, Communism and FreemasonryIn fact, the co-operation between communism in the East and Freemasonry in ... President Woodrow Wilson was the fairy godmother who provided Trotsky with a ... http://freemasonrywatch.org/co mmunism.html -

[PDF] Federal Reserve Act Freemasonry World War OneFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat Fig. 3 — The unconstitutional Federal Reserve Act was passed by Congress. Freemason House advised President Wilson to sign this Act into law. ... http://www.scarletandthebeast.com/Revised%20Picture% 20Appendix/ Picture%20Appendix%

Newswatch Magazine -> May-June 2002 The creation of the League of Nations was urged by President Wilson in a speech ... Having committed himself to world federation, President Wilson then was ... http://www.newsw atchmagazine.org/janfeb03/janfeb03.shtml -

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What's your quarrel with an organization which dispenses over a million dollars a day to charity?

There are 5 million freemasons. That works out to about 20 cents per Mason per day. Since the movers and shakers of Judeo-Jesuit-Freemasonry have murdered hundres of millions in all their contrived wars, and have enslaved the whole world, and get their monies from taxing the oppressed slaves, and by creating "money" out of thin air, I am supposed to be IMPRESSED???? NOT!!!!!!!!!

If the Masons had any significant level of corruption to them, I wouldn't be a member....... Note again my contribution to the 9-11 movement; one of the "...tenets of Freemasontry" being TRUTH!

".....the Gentiles, in their stupidity, have proved easier dupes than we expected them to be. One would expect more intelligence and more practical common sense, but they are no better than a herd of sheep. Let them graze in our fields till they become fat enough to be worthy of being immolated to our future King of the World . . . ***** We have founded many secret associations, which all work for our purpose, under our orders and our direction. We have made it an honor, a great honor, for the Gentiles to join us in our organizations (such as Masonry), which are, thanks to our gold, flourishing now more than ever. Yet it remains our secret that those Gentiles who betray their own and most precious interests, by joining us in our plot, should never know that those associations are of our creation, and that they serve our purpose. One of the many triumphs of ***** our Freemasonry is that those Gentiles who become members of our Lodges, should never suspect that we are using them to build their own jails, upon whose terraces we shall erect the throne of our Universal King of the Jews; and should never know that we are commanding them to forge the chains of their own servility to our future King of the World...."

THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES

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U<>Terminated! Freemasonry's Final Revelation

The Red Symphony Part 2 By Henry Makow PhD 11-16-3

Freemasons "have to die at the hands of the revolution which has been brought about with their cooperation," according to C.G. Rakovsky, a founder of the Communist International.

"The real secret of masonry is the suicide of Freemasonry as an organization, and the physical suicide of every important mason."

This disclosure is from a 1938 Stalinist police interrogation entitled "The Red Symphony." (Transcript in Des Griffin, Fourth Reich of the Rich, p. 254)

"It is clear that I know of this not as a Freemason, but as one who belongs to 'Them,'" [the Illuminati] says Rakovsky, a colleague of Leon Trotsky arrested for plotting against Stalin.

Rakovsky's aim is to convince Stalin, a nationalist, to cooperate with the "the Communist-Capitalist International." I introduced this 50-page expose last week as "Rothschilds Conduct 'Red Symphony' " http://www.savethemales.ca/000275.html

'PROTOCOLS OF ZION' AND 'RED SYMPHONY'

Freemasonry is the world's largest secret society with over five million members, including three million in the US. It is instrumental in the totalitarian conspiracy. http://www.savethemales.ca/300902.html

In The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the author (who I believe is Lionel Rothschild) writes, http://www.savethemales.ca/000100.html

"Gentile masonry blindly serves as a screen for us and our objects, but the plan of action of our force, even its very abiding place, remains for the whole people an unknown mystery.... Who and what is in a position to overthrow an invisible force?" (Protocol 4)

Again he writes, "we shall create and multiply free Masonic lodges... absorb into them all who may become or who are prominent in public activity, for in these lodges we shall find our principle intelligence office and means of influence.... The most secret political plots will be known to us and will fall under our guiding hands...We know the final goal...whereas the goyim have knowledge of nothing..." (Protocol 15)

In his interrogation, Rakovsky says millions flock to Freemasonry to gain an advantage. "The rulers of all the Allied nations were Freemasons, with very few exceptions."

However, the real aim is "create all the required prerequisites for the triumph of the Communist revolution; this is the obvious aim of Freemasonry; **** it is clear that all this is done under various pretexts; but they always **** conceal themselves behind their well known treble slogan [Liberty, Equality, Fraternity]. You understand?" (254)

*** Masons should recall the lesson of the French Revolution. Although "they played a colossal revolutionary role; it consumed the majority of masons..." **** Since the revolution requires the extermination of the bourgeoisie as a class, [so all wealth will be held by the Illuminati in the guise of the State] it follows that Freemasons must be liquidated. The true meaning of Communism is Illuminati tyranny.

**** When this secret is revealed, Rakovsky imagines "the expression of stupidity on the face of some Freemason [ please see pic www.savethemales.ca/000280.html ] when he realizes that he must die at the hands of the revolutionaries. How he screams and wants that one should value his services to the revolution! **** It is a sight at which one can die...but of laughter!" (254)

******* Rakovsky refers to Freemasonry as a hoax: "a madhouse but at liberty." (254) Like masons, other applicants for the humanist utopia master class (neo cons, liberals, Zionists, gay and feminist activists) might be in for a nasty surprise. They might be tossed aside once they have served their purpose......."

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-28   11:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: SKYDRIFTER (#33)

You claim that Masonry is a "secret" society - if you know so much, where are the 'secrets?'

(The 'secrets' havent't been around past at least the mid 1800's when major expose's were published. You can still buy reproductions of those books - and they are still very accurate.)

"Secret Society?" Where are the 'secrets?' That's so much left-over intrigue; which makes the "Degrees" interesting.

You want the "Full Monty" of Freemasonry; look up "saintsaliveforjesus." There are no "secrets."

SAINTSALIVE FOR JESUS

http://www.saintsalive.com/freemasonry.html

Sure, there are no secrets.

[note: see B'Nai B'rith speech, The Jews and Their Lies, above. See SECRET WEAPONS FOR QUIET WARS. See The Protocols of the Elders of Zion/Sion. You can argue over whether they are Masonic, Jewish, or Jesuit. It doesn't matter. They are all different faces of the same thing, created by the same people. You might find them in Ezekiel 8 and Ezekiel 11, and in Revelation 17 and 18.]:

PROTOCOL NO. 7

".....2. Throughout all Europe, and by means of relations with Europe, in other continents also, we must create ferments, discords and hostility. Therein we gain a double advantage. In the first place we keep in check all countries, for they will know that we have the power whenever we like to create disorders or to restore order. All these countries are accustomed to see in us an indispensable force of coercion. In the second place, by our intrigues we shall tangle up all the threads which we have stretched into the cabinets of all States by means of the political, by economic treaties, or loan obligations. In order to succeed in this we must use great cunning and penetration during negotiations and agreements, but, as regards what is called the "official language," we shall keep to the opposite tactics and assume the mask of honesty and complacency. In this way the peoples and governments of the GOYIM, whom we have taught to look only at the outside whatever we present to their notice, will still continue to accept us as the benefactors and saviours of the human race.

UNIVERSAL WAR

3. We must be in a position to respond to every act of opposition by war with the neighbors of that country which dares to oppose us: but if these neighbors should also venture to stand collectively together against us, then we must offer resistance by a universal war.

4. The principal factor of success in the political is the **** secrecy of its undertakings: the word should not agree with the deeds of the diplomat.

5. We must compel the governments of the GOYIM to take action in the direction favored by our widely conceived plan, already approaching the desired consummation, by what we shall represent as public opinion, secretly promoted by us through the means of that so-called "Great Power" - THE PRESS, WHICH, WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT MAY BE DISREGARDED, IS ALREADY ENTIRELY IN OUR HANDS.

6. In a word, to sum up our system of keeping the governments of the goyim in Europe in check, we shall show our strength to one of them by terrorist attempts and to all, if we allow the possibility of a general rising against us, we shall respond with the guns of America or China or Japan. (The Russo- Japanese War of 1904-1905 - Ed.)...."

This of course is told to the people WHO HAVE BEEN LIED INTO A FASCIST STATE AND WHO ARE EXPENDING THEIR BLOOD AND DOLLARS TO THE PHONY WAR ON TERRORISM by THE PRESS. A FASCIST STATE WITH SECRET WARRANTLESS SEARCHES, SECRET ARRESTS, SECRET PRISONS, SECRET TRIBUNALS, SECRET "EVIDENCE", SECRET TORTURE, SECRET THIS AND SECRET THAT. NO SECRETS MY ARSE!

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SAINTSALIVEFORJESUS.COM

http://www.saintsalive.com/freemasonry.html

"....Let's look at the "Knights Templar" Degree. It is reported to have originally been established to preserve and protect the craft. The special garb worn in the degree consists an Apron, sash and cordon.

The center of the Apron displays a hand holding a severed head, dripping blood. On the flap is a hand holding a knife. Drops of red blood cover the white background.

The Sash is white with a yellow fringe. It is filled with gory, severed heads, arms and legs, mixed in with knives, crosses and crowns. The cordon , which goes around the neck, is dark satin with severed heads down the side and a small ceremonial sword as the breast ornament. Along with these grotesque items is a human skull cut and pinned so that the top of the skull can be detached to use a drinking vessel. And they call this the Christian Rite??

A BIZZARE BLOOD RITUAL

The paraphernalia of this ritual should be evidence enough that the York Rite is every bit as pagan as the Scottish Rite, but let me finish this up with a few excerpts from the rite, itself.

The obligation in this degree, called the Master's Nine Of Elect, is now given to the candidate in the usual form. While the candidate is kneeling at the altar, the companions all stand over him with raised poniards, as if about to stab him. Meanwhile a horrible, bloody head sits on the altar, facing him.

He swears this blood oath: "I do solemnly swear, in the presence of Almighty God, that I will revenge the assassination of our worthy Master, Hiram Abiff, not only on the murderers, but also on all who may betray the secrets of this degree; and furthermore, that I will keep and protect this Order with all my might, and the brethren, in general, with all my power, and furthermore, that I will obey the decrees of the Grand Council of Princes of Jerusalem; and, if I violate my obligation, I consent to be struck with the dreadful poniard of vengeance, now presented to me, and **** to have my head cut off, and stuck on the highest pole, or pinnacle, in the eastern part of the world, as a monument of my villainy! Amen! Amen! Amen! Amen!"

The vows here are sealed with the Fifth Libation or The Sealed Obligation. The candidate is given the human skull filled with wine, which he drinks after swearing that "the sins of the person whose skull this once was, be heaped upon my head, in addition to my own; and may appear in judgment against me, both here and hereafter, should I violate or transgress any obligation in Masonry, or the Orders of [this] knighthood..." ..........."

http://www.saintsali ve.com/freemasonry/yorkrite.html

"SEVERED HEADS"????

Gee, are you a member of the York Rite, or Al-CIA-duh, or the Noahide Lubavitchers, or just plain old Skull and Bones, by chance?

Pretty sick stuff for grown "men".

Worse than sick, PURELY SATANIC!

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-28   11:17:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#36)

Pretty sick stuff for grown "men".

Worse than sick, PURELY SATANIC!

What, like you've never done magic ritual before? Right.

How 'bout that ritual cannibalism every Sunday?

"The body of Christ..."

"GM is not a car company, it's a bank that gives free cars to its customers when they take out a loan."--Magorn.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2006-09-28   11:35:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, SKYDRIFTER, ALL (#36)

Outstanding! You saved me a lot of work and did a better job of it!!!!!!!

I would like to add this; http://www.freedomdomain.com/il lumin.html

Quotes By Adam Weishaupt, Founder of the Illuminati

This is the control arm of the Masonic societies. And it is REALLY interesting to see the evolution of the Masonic symbols into the United States. That evolution is presented on this site. Does not leave much doubt as to the roots of the United States in Masonic Satanism. And, as we all know, you know a tree by its fruit, and the tree in this case is the Constitution. Pretty well sums it all up (the Constitution, contrary to what we have been taught, actually came from a book published by Benjamin Franklin in the 1830s. This was a book of Masonic Constitutions, and this makes sense, because the Constitution is a VERY complicated document.)

Yes yes, I know. The Masons are going to argue with me, so, go here;

http://bessel.org/bkrevs.htm

MLC - Masonic Leadership Center web page of Masonic Book Reviews

(You will note above that this is a Masonic center; not a figment of my imagination, right?)

The information on this web page was prepared by Paul M. Bessel, Executive Secretary of the Masonic Leadership Center. It is an attempt to compile the locations of all reviews of Masonic books, as well as links to reviews of Masonic books on the Internet, plus texts of Masonic books on the Internet. I will try to add to it regularly, to include current reviews of Masonic books and reviews from the past, too. If anyone wants to send me email, especially if any of the information on this chart is not correct or if you know of additional information that should be included, please send me email by clicking on my name: Paul M. Bessel

The Constitutions of the Free-Masons (reprint of Anderson's book by Benjamin Franklin),

And, least we forget;

Albert Pike, by Fred W. Allsopp (1928) Bro. Wilson's abstract: Learn what made this ‘best loved of all Freemasons’ the remarkable man he was.

Albert Pike: The Man Beyond the Monument, by Jim Tresner review by Wallace McLeod in The Royal Arch Mason, Spring 1996 review by Thomas W. Jackson in The Northern Light, February 1996

Morals and Dogma, by Albert Pike review on the Internet

Was someone saying about Albert Pike NOT BEING well regarded by the Masons?

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-28   11:44:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Indrid Cold, Brian S (#37)

Pretty sick stuff for grown "men". Worse than sick, PURELY SATANIC!

What, like you've never done magic ritual before? Right.

How 'bout that ritual cannibalism every Sunday?

"The body of Christ..."

sorry....I'm not Catholic.

"....Exodus 20:4-5 -- "You shall not make yourself any graven image [to worship it] or any likeness of anything that is in the heavens above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; You shall not bow down yourself to them or serve them; for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generation of those who hate Me."

With this Scripture in mind, lets look at solar and lunar images directly associated with the Catholic Mass. Here is Pope John Paul II holding what is called a Monstrance or Ostensorium. It is used to display a round wafer of bread, called the host, which is used in what is called the Mass, Lord's Supper, Communion or Eucharistic meal. The Catholic believes this wafer of bread turns into the actual body of Christ when consecrated during the Mass.

The Roman Catholic Church even admits the Monstrance to be a sunburst:

"During the baroque period, it took on a rayed form of a sun-monstrance with a circular window surrounded by a silver or gold frame with rays." ["The Dictionary of the Liturgy", by Rev. Jovian P. Lang, OFM., published and copyrighted © 1989 by Catholic Book Publishing Co., New York, ISBN 0-89942-273- X, page 436.]

The Monstrance truly is a "monstrosity", for it represents the idolatrous orb of the Sun, simultaneously holding the round orb called the Wafer; this wafer is believed to turn into the body of Jesus Christ in the Egyptian Mysteries doctrine called Transubstantiation! You do not believe that this doctrine is Egyptian? Do you remember the Biblical account of the Satanic Egyptian Mysteries, for God brought that idolatrous religious system into massive and total judgment as he lead the children of Israel out of Egypt under the leadership of Moses!

Now, let us return to the study of the Wafer, also known as the "Unbloody Sacrifice".

"In the fourth century, when the [pagan] queen of heaven, under the name of Mary, was beginning to be worshipped in the Christian Church, this 'unbloody sacrifice was brought in ... The very shape of the unbloody sacrifice of Rome may indicate whence it came. It is a small, thin wafer and on its roundness the Church of Rome lays so much stress ... What could have induced the Papacy to insist so much on the 'roundness' of its 'unbloody sacrifice'? The thin round cake ... occurs on all alters. Almost every jot or tittle in the Egyptian worship had a symbolical meaning. The round disk, so frequent in the sacred emblems of Egypt, symbolized the sun." ["The Two Babylons", by Rev. Alexander Hislop, p. 159-160]

Hislop's masterpiece has caused the Roman Catholic Church so much grief they have taken great pains to discredit his work among faithful Catholics and has succeeded to a large degree. But, I testify that former Black Magick Satanists from whom I have learned have independently confirmed the truthfulness and the understanding of "The Two Babylons".

You will note that the wafer the Pope is holding up to his forehead is the characteristic round shape. Why do the pagans place such emphasis on the Sun?

Listen to the Satanic author, Freemason, Manly P. Hall explain:

"In the rare treatise, The Secret Symbols of The Rosicrucians, Franz Hartmann defines the sun alchemically as: 'The Sun is a centre of energy and the storehouse of power. Each living being contains within itself a centre of light, which may grow to be a Sun. In the heart of the regenerated, the divine power, stimulated by the Light of the Logos, grows into a Sun which illuminates his mind'." [Manly P. Hall, op. cit., p. LI]

Thus, while the Profane -- those run-of-the-mill parishioners -- are told that the round wafer is the body of Jesus Christ alchemically transformed into His real flesh and blood, the Adepts of the Roman Catholic Church know the truth; they know the round wafer symbolizes the "centre of light" within each person which they believe can be gradually brought to full spiritual illumination within the body and soul of the Adept! The inner, hidden truth of the round wafer is that it represents the illumination of the godhead within each Adept, to the point where that person becomes spiritually shining as the Sun!

This is the true Satanic meaning of the round wafer and all the round objects the Catholic Church uses in its rituals!...."

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news /n1865.cfm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-28   15:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Indrid Cold (#37)

fyi, if you are interested, a better explanation of why most Protestants do not practice what you speak of.

THE MASS INSULTS JESUS CHRIST

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news /rc113.htm

We simply "break bread" and drink wine or grape juice, in "memory" of His sacrifice for us, after praying, repenting, and asking forgiveness for our sins, not only of God, but of others we have offended.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2006-09-28   16:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Christine, Honway, Aristeides, All (#35)

Why Horsey,

"Illuminati?" You really want anyone to believe that the organization survived 1887?

How? Arbitrary claims & innuendos?

That's a lot of ignorance and 'dupe' victimhood on your part. Does it hurt? Self-inflicted ignorance is embarrassing. You need to take care of that.

Sheesh!

(By the way, this is the 21st Century - did you hear?)


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-28   17:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#36)

Horsey!

The "Protocols?" Jesus jumpin-up Christ; those are a famous anti-Semitic hoax. Where have you been?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-28   17:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: richard9151 (#38)

For any flaws that Pike possessed, he dedicated a major part of his life to the Craft - and he left one hell of a positive legacy.

Let's see, that was around 150 years ago; when slavery was still a norm in American society.

A lot has changed, since then - in case anyone didn't notice.

If the debate is that Albert Pike had human failings; thus the modern-day Craft is somehow 'evil,' permit me to laugh.

If you want any 'evil' to associate with the Craft, note that Mormonism is Freemasonry converted into a religion.

(Sik-em, Tiger!)


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-28   17:45:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: SKYDRIFTER, all (#43)

note that Mormonism is Freemasonry converted into a religion

I am well aware of that. My first wife was a Mormon until I got ahold of her and educated her into the Bible. As for a 150 years later.... you need to read my other posts, BECAUSE WHILE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE SO-CALLED CIVIL WAR, IT IS ONLY TO GET WORSE, NOT BETTER. Thanks to that Masonic Constitution.

And what is this, are you back-tracking on what you said about Pike earlier? You want me to re-post it so you can enjoy it or something?

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-28   18:33:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: SKYDRIFTER, all (#42)

The "Protocols?" Jesus jumpin-up Christ; those are a famous anti-Semitic hoax.

Who said? Oh, right, the Talmudic Khazar-Jews! Have you read the Protocols? Because I have.... and NOTHING has ever been written that even comes close to describing the world of today like that book does. Everything that is talked about on 4, from the control of the government, to control of the media, to permitting only selected info to be realeased in various areas but denied to other areas, is covered, in detail, in the book. It is a CHILLING reading, and only an idiot who has never read it would dare to call it a hoax.

http://www.biblebel ievers.org.au/prvisit.htm#VISITING

Yet the Protocols are not to be dismissed so easily. For if they are false in one sense, a reader cannot help feeling that they are genuine in another! What makes them seem genuine is that they are not at all what one would expect from "a Russian religious mystic." They show too deep an understanding both of Gentile weaknesses familiar to us all and of the sort of mind set which might ruthlessly exploit them for sectarian gain. Fictional or not, they were written by somebody who knew very well the kind of men whose utterances they supposedly report. They express a wealth of hard-headed insight in a tone of arrogant superiority which is not unfamiliar to us either. We cannot quarrel with the comment of Henry Ford's Dearborn Independent - which publicized the Protocols in America around 1921 - that the work was "too terribly real for fiction, too well-sustained for speculation, too deep in its knowledge of the secret springs of life for forgery".

The entire book is free on line; enjoy.... you MAY learn something.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-28   18:43:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, All (#44)

Thanks to that Masonic Constitution.

Why Dickey-Bird,

You finally got something right - you got a problem with that Constitution? Add the American Revolution - ala Freemason George Washington, et Masonic al.

So, what do you propose as an alternative?

Well .....?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-28   18:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, All (#45)

Yet the Protocols are not to be dismissed so easily.

You know, I'm inclined to agree with you. If someone said that they could prove that they were stolen & copied, then otherwise passed along as a forgery; I'd be curious as to the 'proof.'

What I am sure of is that they have no valid connection to the Craft.

For your information, since J. Edgar Hooover died, the Craft slid into near obscurity in DC. The NWO elements slipped into place, after that.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-28   18:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: SKYDRIFTER (#47)

The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is a text published in the Russian Empire in the early 20th century that purports to describe a plan to achieve world domination by Jews.

Numerous independent investigations [1] have repeatedly proven it to be a hoax; most notably, a series of articles printed in The Times of London in 1921 revealed that much of the material in the Protocols was plagiarized from earlier political satire that did not have an anti-Semitic theme. Since the Protocols appeared, its earliest publishers have offered vague and often contradictory testimony detailing how they obtained their copy of the rumored original manuscript.[2]

Wikipedi a entry on "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-28   19:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: aristeides (#48)

Wikipedi a entry on "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".

Thanks - that's the accepted tradition. However, if they were simply stolen & pandered, they do represent one hell of a plan.

A lot of stuff has been - in various forms - "emulated," all the way to my claim of "Next-Generation Nazism." The "Protocols" may be in the same boat, along with the "Illuminati."

I have no quarrel with anyone saying that such as "Nazism" and the "Illuminati" have been 'emulated.' BUT to say that there is a direct lineage; I don't accept.

I'm convinced that Freemasonry ties directly back to the Templars; BUT, I can't prove it - along with a lot of great scholars struggling to make that connection.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-28   19:47:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: SKYDRIFTER, all (#46)

So, what do you propose as an alternative?

Please refer to Who Controls America, Part 2. This is just like discussing the Protocols; if you have not read the Protocols, do not discuss them as you are simply repeating what others have said, and your words carry no weight. Besides, it makes you look silly to anyone who has read them.

The Constitution is the same thing. If you - that is YOU - not your neighbor or your 6th grade teacher or some other anybody - have not read, throughly digested and studied the Constitution, WORD BY WORD, then do not bother to enter into discussions about it. And that means, study. That simple document is written at a grade level 26 - that means that to understand it with a single read, you would need 26 years of formal education. I do not think that anyone here in this forum has had that much education. I certainly have not, and every time I think that I have something in the Constitution understood, well, no way.

So you tell me, why would it be neccessary to write such a complicated document, unless it was meant to confuse and obsucure? Just maybe, after you figure this out, you may begin to see where our problems in America come from.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-28   21:08:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, All (#50)

So you tell me, why would it be neccessary to write such a complicated document, unless it was meant to confuse and obsucure? Just maybe, after you figure this out, you may begin to see where our problems in America come from.

Oh Jesus! The rest of the world turns green with envy at that document (Pre- Patriot Act).

What the fuck are you going to substitute? "Mein Kampf" and the "Enabling Acts?"

Hey, big mouth; what's your alternative?

America's problem, today, is that the Constitution isn't being enforced.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-28   22:32:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: SKYDRIFTER, all (#51)

America's problem, today, is that the Constitution isn't being enforced.

That is a ridiculous statement. What do you base that opinion on? Your years of study of the Constitution, or, is it just that you are repeating what you have heard? The Constitution is alive and well, and doing exactly what it was written to do; place a democracy over a City State known as the District of Columbia.

Now, politicians keep telling you that you live in a democracy, but, have you ever said a Pledge of Alligence to a .... democracy? Or, was it to ´the Republic for which it stands´? You have to fill me in, you know? Because you being a Moron... er, Mason, you may have some secret Pledge that I am not privy to.

Being that as it may, YOU LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY. Why is that? And if you can not answer the question, then do not talk about what you know nothing about. The Constitution is alive and well and being fully enforced. Trust me on this one.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-28   22:49:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, All (#52)

Your disinformation skills need more practice.

Democracy in DC?

The Constitution left that out - or did you know?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-29   1:50:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: SKYDRIFTER, all (#53)

Democracy in DC?

Debating with you is like debating with a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest..... You really should leave things that you know nothing about alone. Or, at the very least, do some research and quit repeating what others, who know nothing as well, say.

From the post (mine), Who Controls the United States, Part 2; And here we have it. The beginning of the United States. So, what did the Constitution create? A City State, exclusive of the States united, and not subject to the Constitution: United States v. Cornell 25 Fed. Cas. 646, no. 14,867 C.C.D.R.I. 1819 … It is under the like terms in the same clause of the constitution that exclusive jurisdiction is now exercised by congress in the District of Columbia …

You will not that the above is based on federal case law.... United States v. Cornell 25 Fed. Cas. 646

Of course, that is probably the only one....... right? Not hardly. In Downes v. Bidwell, 1901, the Supreme Court ruled that "exclusive" meant exactly that; EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction, with no control from the Constitution. (In Downes v. Bidwell, the Court ruled that "exclusive" meant "without consideration of the Constitutional restraints...")

That means that what has come to be known as the Federal Zone, those areas under the EXCLUSIVE control of the Congress, has no law; by definition that is a Democracy.

Gee, well, I don´t know.... what could be going on..... (theres that one legged man again!)

From the same post; (I often ask people how they can consider themselves free when the so-called President of the United States writes law, called Executive Orders, under his exclusive authority, publishes these Orders in the Federal Register for thirty days, and they become law, which can only be over-ridden by a super-majority of Congress, which has NEVER happened. Most never answer me, and if they do, it is only to mumble something like, well, it really isn´t law, because only Congress can pass laws. Sorry, Executive Orders are law.) So, when did the first Executive Order get written, and by whom, and for what reason?

Remember that GREAT American, the first President of the United States (This is a lie; there were 8 presidents of the United States prior to George Washington), George Washington? He wrote the first Excutive Order;

Gentlemen of the Senate: Pursuant to the powers vested in me by the act entitled "An act repealing after the last day of June next the duties heretofore laid upon distilled spirits imported from abroad and laying others in their stead, and also upon spirits distilled within the United States, and for appropriating the same," I have thought fit to divide the United States into the following districts, namely: The district of New Hampshire, to consist of the State of New Hampshire; the district of Massachusetts, to consist of the State of Massachusetts; the district of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, to consist of the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations; the district of Connecticut, to consist of the State of Connecticut; the district of Vermont, to consist of the State of Vermont; the district of New York, to consist of the State of New York; the district of New Jersey, to consist of the State of New Jersey; the district of Pennsylvania, to consist of the State of Pennsylvania; the district of Delaware, to consist of the State of Delaware; the district of Maryland, to consist of the State of Maryland; the district of Virginia, to consist of the State of Virginia; the district of North Carolina, to consist of the State of North Carolina; the district of South Carolina, to consist of the State of South Carolina; and the district of Georgia, to consist of the State of Georgia." March 4, 1791 (page 99).

That, my one legged friend, is where you live; IN THE FEDERAL DISTRICT STATES WHERE THE CONGRESS IS NOT RESTRAINED BY THE CONSTITUTION. IN A DEMOCRACY, contracted to Congress as a United States citizen, and resident in one of the several states. (If you are curious, I explain more about this in the post.)

What, still don´t get it?!

Washington declared, under the War Powers, acting as Commander-in-Chief, that the States of the Union were now overlaid by District States,

Do you see that? UNDER THE WAR POWERS...

The Constitution granted legislative authority to Congress only over a ten square mile District, making Congress the supreme authority, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, over the District. Washington extended this District without Constitutional authority. Washington put in place officers of the District to oversee the District States. As a result of the military rule imposed by Washington, District courts and Appeals courts were ordered to enforce collection and fines and imprisonment of anyone defying the laws of the United States. THESE DISTRICTS CREATED BY GEORGE WASHINGTON HAVE NEVER BEEN REMOVED. The Judicial Districts were created by the Judiciary Act of 1789, two years before Washington said Congress gave him additional powers, thereby HE created District States, so the federal government could use the militias to crush the tax protesters in Pennsylvania, by Washington's order. Since the Judicial Districts already existed, why did they recreate them? Washington said he was dividing the United States into District States."...

Now, would you like to run that Patriot Act crap past me one more time? About how it has changed things somehow?

To fully begin to understand what I am writing, you must understand the difference between the United States and the united States. Washington divided the United States into districts, but he did not divide the united States because he did not have the authority to do so. The United States was formed BY the Articles of Confederation; the united States are the union States (see the Declaration of Independence), which formed the United States through the Articles of Confederation. This is a powerful distinction that must be understood for effective action in removing the legal disabilities of contractual obligations with the exclusive jurisdiction of the UNITED STATES (if this is something that you desire to do; most people are comfortable being slaves). If it was not a powerful distinction, they would not have to contract you into the jurisdiction, but would assume all of the powers they desire without the "legal" niceties of a contract.

(Short break; I have posted today another paper titled; Gold Fringed Flag. I suggest that you stop here, and read that paper RIGHT NOW!)

There is a lot more information in the post, but I understand.... it is much better to whine and post nonsense than it is to actually have to work to learn and understand. Enjoy, one-legged-man.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-29   10:48:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: SKYDRIFTER, all (#53)

Hey, and just for you and your moron... er Masonic friends, I posted Masonary is a Religion yesterday. Enjoy!!! Enjoy DOUBLE!!!!

(I really like people who get involved in things that they do not understand and do not bother to study before hand.) What? They did not tell you, when you were ready to take your FIRST oath, that more would be revealed to you with each succedding oath?! BET THEY DID!

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-29   10:53:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, All (#55)

(I really like people who get involved in things that they do not understand and do not bother to study before hand.) What? They did not tell you, when you were ready to take your FIRST oath, that more would be revealed to you with each succedding oath?! BET THEY DID!


Good God, Dickey-Bird -

At least in my experience, it's called an "Obligation." No, it doesn't speak to increasing levels of knowledge. YES, each "Degree" does add to the previous one, addressed in the Jurisdiction's "Monitor." YES, you can download those; OR, you can buy them at used book stores.

Please document where the Constitution grants "Democracy" to DC.

(Yes, I can read.)

C'mon, shit-for-brains; let's hear it!

Your disinformation attempts are easily defeated by the FACTS of history.



SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-29   16:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: SKYDRIFTER, Critter (#56)

Just got my EA degree last night! Not the most astounding ritual I've ever been through, but better than I was expecting.

I'm starting to see more and more of the elements that Gerald Gardner cribbed from Freemasonry when he invented Wicca in the 1950s.

If you're not pissed off, you're just not paying attention.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2006-10-10   12:09:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Indrid Cold (#57)

Just got my EA degree last night! Not the most astounding ritual I've ever been through, but better than I was expecting.

Congrats brother!

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-10-10   12:39:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Indrid Cold (#57)

Just got my EA degree last night! Not the most astounding ritual I've ever been through, but better than I was expecting.

Super! It gets better; I promise. It all comes "....in degrees." Keep me posted.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-10-10   12:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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