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Title: ElPee's Israeli Aaron on 911 (LMAO)
Source: ElPee
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=159971&Disp=127#C127
Published: Sep 29, 2006
Author: Aaron
Post Date: 2006-09-29 11:22:06 by Nostalgia
Keywords: None
Views: 209
Comments: 17

127. To: mehitable (#58) I have to be running along, but here are a few things that bother me: These 19 hijackers did not act at all like crazed Muslim fanatics before they hijacked the plane, and what the hell were they doing in Portland Maine? What was this whole traveling to Maine and then to Boston for? Why hijack the planes from Boston and hijack them all the way to New York? That's a damn long distance to travel if you're doing a dastardly deed. WHy not hijack them in New York itself. Less flying time and less likelihood of getting caught.

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I would submit that any hijacker who acted crazed would have been vetted out long before the attack. The fact that they could remain cool, calm and collected was why 911 was successful. The old adage selecting the right person for the job applies here. Please note that Moussaoui didn’t make the cut. He was left behind because he was unstable. Many of those disputing the official version of the 9/11 attacks have chosen, oddly enough, to challenge some of the government's most solid evidence and to do so with flimsy evidence of their own. This is the case with you. What you are describing is the typical activity of a terrorist cell.

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The pilots are not described by their flying schools in glowing terms. In fact, one instructor said one of the pilots was so bad he was surprised he could drive a car. Yet I think flying into the WTC - not once, but twice, seems like quite a precision bit of flying. Now, I actually HAVE flown a plane once - takeoff, flew it around, and landed, so I know it doesn't take a genius, but those jets have tons of controls and the least little thing can go wrong. I don't know if it's possible for them to fly like that.

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Ronald D. Bull, a retired United Airlines pilot, in Jupiter, Florida, stated, "It's not that difficult, and certainly not impossible," noting that it's much easier to crash intentionally into a target than to make a controlled landing. "If you're doing a suicide run, like these guys were doing, you'd just keep the nose down and push like the devil," says Capt. Bull, who flew 727s, 747s, 757s, and 767s for many years, internationally and domestically, including into the Washington, D.C., airports. George Williams of Waxhaw, North Carolina, piloted 707s, 727s, DC-10s, and 747s for Northwest Airlines for 38 years. "I don't see any merit to those arguments whatsoever," Capt. Williams told us. "The Pentagon is a pretty big target and I'd say hitting it was a fairly easy thing to do."

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Why not pick an easier target, like the Statue of Liberty - out there in the harbor, nothing around it?

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And what economic value would the destruction of the Statue of Liberty bring to our enemies? This isn’t to mention the bonus loss of innocent life. This is a poor analogy.

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Why weren't these planes - all 4 of them - stopped by our air force? What the hell was that about? Even if there is no conspiracy, that is gross - GROSS - incompetence. This could have been a Russian nuclear attack in years past - how long were these guys flying around - an hour or more? I forget exactly. If there is no conspiracy, then there is gross negligence, and I don't think anyone has been fired.

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The hijackers, or the pilots, turned the transponders off, making the planes hard to see. Add to that government incompetence.

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I do have questions about why the buildings went down the way they did. Gigantic structures like that, built to withstand damn near anything, including air strikes from my understanding (the nearby Empire state building WAS struck by a plane in the 40s) so it must have been conceivable that a plane might accidentally strike one of the buildings. And yet, after only a hour, with damage apparently on the top floors, the entire buildings collapsed. And yes - they DO LOOK like controlled demos, whether they are or not. They DO LOOK IT.

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Steel doesn't have to 'melt' as some people claim. The yield strength of steel drops dramatically under heat, and the impact of the airliners would have severely impacted the support columns. When they could no longer support the upper stories and the top started coming down, the dynamic loading caused a very rapid collapse, or 'pancaking,' that would have very nearly approached free-fall rate. No demolition charges were needed to accomplish this.

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And what of Building 7? Why would that collapse when didn't appear so badly damaged and its behind TWO OTHER buildings that were in flames completely and didn't collapse?

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Building 7 was on fire for hours and was weakened and collapsed. No conspiracy here.

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Also, what of the debris that rained down from the towers? I heard one fire fighter say that there were no recognizable things from any of the offices. The biggest identifiable thing he saw was part of a phone keypad. And yet my understanding was that Mohammed Atta's passport was found intact at the scene. That's a bizarre...coincidence.

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I have no clue where you’re going here. I’ve seen pictures of full-sized pieces of paper raining down from the towers.

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Then when you add in all the other things - how some of these hijackers had apparent CIA backgrounds, how some of them have been seen alive in other countries so their identities were stolen apparently, how Marvin Bush, the president's brother, was in charge of WTC security, how NORAD had some kind of drill on THAT day for just that kind of event, how the stocks seem to reflect some kind of insider trader prior to the events - damn, that is a whole lot of questions that have to be answered. This cannot be ignored.

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This seems to be the part where a KooK glazes over and begins to babble. I’ve done enough to support the 911 Commission and the Bush administration. I’ll be happy to continue this defense once I return from business.

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The bottom line for me is this: The PNAC group declared in the late 1990s that the US needed a Pearl Harbor event so that we would go to war with Iraq. And 8 months into the Bush admin - we GET THAT EVENT.

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PNAC is code for anti-Semitism. So the Joooos did the deed, eh? When will your kind get in line?

Aaron posted on 2006-09-29 10:54:26 ET Reply Trace

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#1. To: Nostalgia (#0)

he is getting tricky. this time i had to read the whole thing before i got to the part where he calls everyone an anti-semite.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-09-29   11:28:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Nostalgia (#0)

I'm convinced that in a former life this "Aaron" creature was an NKVD interrogator in the Lubyanka.

Peetie Wheatstraw  posted on  2006-09-29   11:33:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Peetie Wheatstraw (#2)

I'm convinced that in a former life this "Aaron" creature was an NKVD interrogator in the Lubyanka.

Bingo! Good catch.

I didn't know how to put into words why the hairs on my neck were standing up as I was reading through Aaron's remarks. But you sensed the same thing and expressed the creepiness of it all perfectly...Aaron's responses do seem to have an eery staccato inquisitorial edge to them, don't they?

What a wackjob. Shiver...

scrapper2  posted on  2006-09-29   11:53:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Nostalgia (#0)

Dakmar uses one of Aaron's more outrageous quotes as his tagline:

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Nuts doesn't even begin to cover it. This idiot is certifiable. I'm glad Dakmar keeps this quote out there where more people can see it.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-09-29   12:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2, Peetie Wheatstraw, Morgana Le Fay, mehitable Bill D Berger, All (#3)

kbb, an Aaron clone or one and the same? Though, mehitable and Bill D Berger make a valiant effort, it's for naught with the paid statist shills over there.

129. To: mehitable, Aaron (#128)

PNAC is code for anti-Semitism. So the Joooos did the deed, eh? When will your kind get in line? I'm going to disregard EVERYTHING you said before on the basis of this one line. I find this comment INCREDIBLY OFFENSIVE and untrue. The PNAC exists in FACT and there just happen to be a lot of Jewish people who signed on to it, believing - foolishly and wrongly - that these ideas would "help" Israel. The vast majority of the Jewish people and the Israeli people are in no way involved with 9/11 either before or after the event, and I really really really RESENT you're bringing up this anti-semitic card when I raise my arguments. You're implying that I am an anti-semite. Right now, I'm simply not going to listen to a damn thing you say. You can go to hell.

you brought it up idiot! you are the one who said PNAC needed something! you brought it up, you repeated the lies of Griffith etal

You are the unknowingly anti Semitic person, repeating junk from other CT sites as questions of some official story that never existed!

You are the lemming repeating what "experts" claim to be questions, but you come armed with lies!'

You have fallen for the lies of the 9/11 truth movement, who just as NAZIs did, name themselves truth and spew lies!

You are going to ignore the best rebuttal you will ever get here, cause someone took the time to give you the truth!

kbb posted on 2006-09-29 11:50:02 ET Reply Trace

Nostalgia  posted on  2006-09-29   12:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: who knows what evil (#4)

Nuts doesn't even begin to cover it. This idiot is certifiable. I'm glad Dakmar keeps this quote out there where more people can see it.

i deleted his free speach quote from my tag line last night because the quote had been deleted over on LP. now i am sorry i did it. i probably didn't need the actual quote to back up the fact that aaron said something so outrageous.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-09-29   12:15:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Morgana le Fay (#6)

you can retrieve it from the posts you made before you deleted it.

christine  posted on  2006-09-29   12:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Nostalgia (#5)

kbb, an Aaron clone or one and the same?

Looking at your quotes of kbb, I'd say there is no way kbb and aaron are one and the same poster. Too much emotion and !'s in kbb's writing.

Aaron is cold, direct. That's not to say aaron is not above using the same old same old tool to put a lid on open dialogue when it suits him.

Interesting enough when I was just reading through Mearsheimer & Walt's research paper to answer a post by Morgana on another thread, I came across a reference that the professors made to an individual named Aaron who traveled back and forth between Israel and DC and was a prominent neocon "liason" in Clinton's admin. Keep in mind the IsraeliFirsters in DC started to become disassatisied with Clinton's dual containment policies, so that may account for el pee aaron's contempt for so called appeasors.

Just kidding folks, just kidding. I'm sure el pee's aaron is not the aaron who is named on page 18 of M&W's report. tee, hee

"...The Lobby’s goals are also served when proIsrael individuals occupy  important positions in the executive branch. During the Clinton Administration, for  example, Middle East policy was largely shaped by officials with close ties to  Israel or to prominent proIsrael organizationsincluding Martin Indyk, the former deputy director of research at AIPAC and cofounder of the proIsrael Washington  Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP); Dennis Ross, who joined WINEP after  leaving government in 2001; and Aaron Miller, who has lived in Israel and often  visits there.81      These men were among President Clinton’s closest advisors at the Camp David  summit in July 2000..."

scrapper2  posted on  2006-09-29   13:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: scrapper2, Dakmar, Jethro Tull, Morgana Le Fay, christine, Zipporah, Ferret Mike, Esso, Former Lurker (#8)

I came across a reference that the professors made to an individual named Aaron who traveled back and forth between Israel and DC and was a prominent neocon "liason" in Clinton's admin. Keep in mind the IsraeliFirsters in DC started to become disassatisied with Clinton's dual containment policies, so that may account for el pee aaron's contempt for so called appeasors.

Could be this is who ElPee's Aaron models himself after. ;-)

Nostalgia  posted on  2006-09-29   18:09:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Nostalgia (#9)

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/

I think he's associated with this Yenta. IIRC, he referenced her material a few times on PL.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-09-29   18:14:49 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Nostalgia (#5)

I told this ahole that he could shove his anti-semite card up his keister, but apparently he likes this tactic so he's continuing in the anti-semite vein. I will NOT tolerate this argument and I simply refuse to debate it so I put him on bozo. Hopefully he'll go suck on his blankie for a while and go back to sleep.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   18:28:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Morgana le Fay, Nostalgia (#1)

he is getting tricky. this time i had to read the whole thing before i got to the part where he calls everyone an anti-semite.

He is ridiculous, this is same guy that said on PostLiberty that all Germans should be killed due to genetic predisposition for genocide.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-29   19:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Nostalgia (#0)

More importantly, how did the LP Bots react to Aaron's comments?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   19:37:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: mehitable (#11)

but apparently he likes this tactic so he's continuing in the anti-semite vein.

It's all he knows. He's like veronica in crystal meth. Or, as I suspect, a real anti-semite trying to make likudniks appear more evil than they actually are. The latter sounds a little too elaborate though, and you know how I hate to be accused of conspiracy mongering.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-29   19:40:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Dakmar (#12)

He is ridiculous, this is same guy that said on PostLiberty that all Germans should be killed due to genetic predisposition for genocide.

We could say the same and more about Zionist dong lickers such as him.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-29   19:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

It's the duplictitous (or possibly even triplicitous, if that is in fact a word) hypocrisy that makes me feel like I have no choice other than to regard a small subset of ethnically Jewish people as an enemy to be watched and exposed. I could play the same game, demand that every person with any trace of Jewish ancestry apologise for every action of other members, but it doesn't work as well without radio and TV backup. Just kidding, it's the entire collective mindset that bothers me, not any advantage some particular pipsqueak has at any given second.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-29   19:54:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin (#13)

I've seen several back him up like this kbb did. Trust me, this creep feels quite at home and in his element with Goldi-Lox Sharon at the helm of LikudPost.

Nostalgia  posted on  2006-09-29   21:05:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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