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Title: BREAKING: FLORIDA CONGRESSMAN MARK FOLEY TO RESIGN AFTER ABCNEWS.COM REPORT ABOUT SEXUALLY EXPLICIT EMAILS TO AN UNDERAGE INTERN
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2508295
Published: Sep 29, 2006
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2006-09-29 15:34:02 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3252
Comments: 213

WASHINGTON Sep 29, 2006 (AP)— Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., submitted a letter of resignation from Congress on Friday in the wake of questions about e-mails he wrote a former male page, according to a congressional official.

Foley, 52, had been considered a shoo-in for re-election until the e-mails surfaced in recent days.

Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman e-mailed the former Capitol page five times, but had said there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.

Foley's election opponent, Democrat Tim Mahoney, has called for an investigation.

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#127. To: Brian S (#0)

The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.

16 years old? Well the guy's a fruit and he might like them a bit young, but a 16 year old does not qualify one as a pedophile. In fact it's legal in many states and it's marrying age in most. It was an abuse of a position of power and that makes him a predator, but not the age of the complainant.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:03:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You forgot about the difference in his position as well. He's not just any older man looking for any 16 year old.

And he was the Chairman on the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. Plus he is the GOP representative for a state with a lot of missing children from its state foster care program.

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:17:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You forgot about the difference in his position as well.

No I didn't. I specifically made mention of it : "It was an abuse of a position of power..."

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:19:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So you did, sorry.

I still disagree with you about 16. It's too young to make a decision like this, one that could lead to a permanent lifestyle choice too. As Red pointed out, if it's a 16 and 17 year old girl and boy, that's different. But he's too young for the pressure brought to bear by an older man; especially, as you point out in this abuse of power.

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:24:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's too young to make a decision like this, one that could lead to a permanent lifestyle decistion too.

We try them as adults and they can get married and drive. I think what the Congressman did was deplorable, but I'm just pointing out the schizophrenic nature of our laws and how there is no common thread between what ages are considered "adult" in different circumstances.

In Mississippi a 15 year old female can get married but a male must be 17. In some states the marrying age has no minimum threshold if the female is pregnant. And in yet other states, you can marry a 15 year old girl and legally have sex with her, but you'll go to prison for 20 years if you take a nude picture of her. Very odd.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:34:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When you have states rights, community standards, which may differ from area to area, apply. The other alternative would be a uniform federal age, which I would hardly like to see because I don't want to expand the fedgov.

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:36:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#165. To: mehitable (#154)

When you have states rights, community standards, which may differ from area to area, apply. The other alternative would be a uniform federal age, which I would hardly like to see because I don't want to expand the fedgov.

I don't want a Federal minimum age either. It's not necessary. I see the current hodgepodge of laws as a result of replacing common law crimes with statute. That's why they call it "statutory rape". It's something created by arbitrary political edict.

A common law rape has three elements:

A) Was the alleged victim capable of granting consent

B) Was consent granted.

C) mens rea (guilty mind or intent).

It takes into consideration situational conditions and what is "generally accepted by a reasonable person" and allows for juries and judges to exercise common sense. None of this is allowed in statutory crimes.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29 17:55:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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