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Title: BREAKING: FLORIDA CONGRESSMAN MARK FOLEY TO RESIGN AFTER ABCNEWS.COM REPORT ABOUT SEXUALLY EXPLICIT EMAILS TO AN UNDERAGE INTERN
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2508295
Published: Sep 29, 2006
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2006-09-29 15:34:02 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 3296
Comments: 213

WASHINGTON Sep 29, 2006 (AP)— Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., submitted a letter of resignation from Congress on Friday in the wake of questions about e-mails he wrote a former male page, according to a congressional official.

Foley, 52, had been considered a shoo-in for re-election until the e-mails surfaced in recent days.

Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman e-mailed the former Capitol page five times, but had said there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.

Foley's election opponent, Democrat Tim Mahoney, has called for an investigation.

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#139. To: Eoghan (#138)

Only one of Foley's hands is behind the young man in that photo.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:18:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: robin (#137)

You forgot about the difference in his position as well.

No I didn't. I specifically made mention of it : "It was an abuse of a position of power..."

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:19:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Brian S (#136)

Fla is confusing and can be either 16 or 18 depending on the situation

it's probably 16 if the partner is only a few years older and 18 for others. that's the way it usually is.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   17:21:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: SmokinOPs (#140) (Edited)

So you did, sorry.

I still disagree with you about 16. It's too young to make a decision like this, one that could lead to a permanent lifestyle choice too. As Red pointed out, if it's a 16 and 17 year old girl and boy, that's different. But he's too young for the pressure brought to bear by an older man; especially, as you point out in this abuse of power.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:24:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: robin (#142)

It's not just about having sex with someone who may or may not be legal. It's about lying to US, it's about using his power to gain advantage over potential partners - some of whom maybe UNDER age, we don't know - it's about pretending to be something he's not, it's about voting for torture and destroying civil liberties while pretending to be a decent American. This guy is a piece of garbage. This whole lifestyle of preying on teenagers - boys or girls is DISGUSTING and should be prosecuted SEVERELY. I would bury this bastard UNDER the jail.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:27:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: mehitable (#143)

Not before he talks! Names, we want all the names.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: robin (#142)

I took a peek at Unfree Republic to see what the schmucks were saying. Seems like half of them are lamenting that this guy got caught while "the Kennedys get away with it". In order words, they don't care at all, about what he's actually done, or may have done, or about his abuses of power - they just care that THEIR guy got caught. What rancid low life scum!!!!!

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:29:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: robin (#144)

Hey, I think this guy might be a potential terrorist and we should use these new torture provisions on him. I'll supervise.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: robin (#144)

If he's tortured, he'll name names. (Of course, they may be the names of innocent people.)

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-09-29   17:30:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: mehitable (#143)

I agree with you.

not only that these events indicate that the guy is a pervert who can't control himself. He's obsessed with his perversions to the point where he takes wild risks. has no control over himself. obviously an unfit person.

think his wife will take him back?

I wonder about the big clown from Arizona - JD Hayworth - I wonder if he's one of these republican perverts.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   17:32:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Red Jones (#148)

I thought Foley was single - he's described as a bachelor in one news account.

If she's a typical Republican wife she'll take him back if they offer her enough money.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: mehitable (#149)

oh, he's single. I was just ASS-U-ME'ing that he was married.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   17:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: robin (#142)

It's too young to make a decision like this, one that could lead to a permanent lifestyle decistion too.

We try them as adults and they can get married and drive. I think what the Congressman did was deplorable, but I'm just pointing out the schizophrenic nature of our laws and how there is no common thread between what ages are considered "adult" in different circumstances.

In Mississippi a 15 year old female can get married but a male must be 17. In some states the marrying age has no minimum threshold if the female is pregnant. And in yet other states, you can marry a 15 year old girl and legally have sex with her, but you'll go to prison for 20 years if you take a nude picture of her. Very odd.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: Red Jones (#150)

Well, Rush has several ex-wives he could loan Foley...there's still hope.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: robin (#142)

I think the point is that pedophiles are attracted to the physically immature, like a 5 or 6 year old. A 16 year old is probably physically mature. While the guy is queer that likes them young, I don't think he qualifies as a pedophile.

Do I hear a fat lady singing?

Critter  posted on  2006-09-29   17:35:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: SmokinOPs (#151)

When you have states rights, community standards, which may differ from area to area, apply. The other alternative would be a uniform federal age, which I would hardly like to see because I don't want to expand the fedgov.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:36:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: SmokinOPs (#151)

I read about cases in California where undercover US federal agents hired teen girls aged 14-16 to take their clothes off for the camera. then they took the pictures and showed them to young men in early 20's and enticed the young men to buy copies. These were young men who did not seek these things, but the undercover agent sought them. and then the young men were busted for child pornography. and they went to jail for about 20 years. that does seem kind of schitzophrenic to me.

I think it is an evil agenda though myself. I think 99% of our people would never set policy to be so stupid and so bad. But thepeople who rule us have an evil agenda - and they impose these INSANE agendas.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   17:39:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: SmokinOPs (#151)

I see what you mean.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: mehitable (#145)

I took a peek at Unfree Republic to see what the schmucks were saying. Seems like half of them are lamenting that this guy got caught while "the Kennedys get away with it".

Interesting and a little surprising.

I thought regardless of one's party loyalties, when child abuse/porn issues are under discussion, there would be nothing but contempt expressed about the guilty ( accused)adult figure.

I assumed child abuse trumped party loyalty, but I guess I made a passe "old world" values based assumption.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-09-29   17:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: scrapper2 (#157)

Well those were the first page or two of views I saw - the first reactions. Possibly some more normal people have posted by now, but I'm not sure there are any left there. I suspect that FR is just some computer somewhere spitting out random posts based on the keywords....

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: mehitable (#145)

"I took a peek at Unfree Republic to see what the schmucks were saying."

Surprise surprise, le pee has the same reaction starting as FReeperland:

2. To: bluewater boats (#1)
I wonder if its a sin when a Republician does it. Or just when Demms do it.

DUB posted on 2006-09-29 17:36:19 ET Reply Trace

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-29   17:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Ferret Mike (#159)

Not too surprising, but there are more normal people on El Pee. They're all insane in Freeperland. Or maybe they're sending out their own email to interns about those gladiator movies.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:44:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: mehitable (#158)

Well those were the first page or two of views I saw - the first reactions. Possibly some more normal people have posted by now, but I'm not sure there are any left there.

I'm not disputing your observations regarding the posts you read there - I'm sorry if it sounded that way to you.

I guess I was just shaking my head( figuratively)with surprise and sadness (and disgust) about how normal peoples' values have been corrupted over the years - now it's all about winning or not getting caught whether it's in business, in politics, or in sports whatever...there does not seem to be any more commonly understood lines of morality, ethics that must not be crossed by human behavior.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-09-29   17:49:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Brian S (#0)

Maf54: Do I make you a little horny? Teen: A little. Maf54: Cool.

Just one of the Folinator's little love notes. I think he lifted it from an old Donna Summer song.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:50:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: scrapper2 (#161)

Oh no, I didn't take it that way at all. I agree with you. It's pretty shocking that the really only care about the party and apparently not about much else.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-09-29   17:51:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: mehitable (#6)

The tip of the whaaaaaat?

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-09-29   17:52:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: mehitable (#154)

When you have states rights, community standards, which may differ from area to area, apply. The other alternative would be a uniform federal age, which I would hardly like to see because I don't want to expand the fedgov.

I don't want a Federal minimum age either. It's not necessary. I see the current hodgepodge of laws as a result of replacing common law crimes with statute. That's why they call it "statutory rape". It's something created by arbitrary political edict.

A common law rape has three elements:

A) Was the alleged victim capable of granting consent

B) Was consent granted.

C) mens rea (guilty mind or intent).

It takes into consideration situational conditions and what is "generally accepted by a reasonable person" and allows for juries and judges to exercise common sense. None of this is allowed in statutory crimes.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:55:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Red Jones (#155)

I read about cases in California where undercover US federal agents hired teen girls aged 14-16 to take their clothes off for the camera.

Isn't it nice how our masters don't have to follow the same laws as us when "pursuing their legal duties"? It's the same as the undercover cop who makes multiple drug purchases and is exempted. It's not a matter of the officer incidentally coming into contact with contraband in the line of duty in order to capture it for evidence, but of someone intentionally seeking out the contraband in a manner that would send anyone of us to the clink.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   18:01:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Brian S (#136) (Edited)

Looks like his name will stay on the ballot:

Florida Elections Law:

(4)(a) In the event that death, resignation, withdrawal, removal, or any other cause or event should cause a party to have a vacancy in nomination which leaves no candidate for an office from such party, the Department of State shall notify the chair of the appropriate state, district, or county political party executive committee of such party; and, within 5 days, the chair shall call a meeting of his or her executive committee to consider designation of a nominee to fill the vacancy. The name of any person so designated shall be submitted to the Department of State within 7 days after notice to the chair in order that the person designated may have his or her name on the ballot of the ensuing general election. If the name of the new nominee is submitted after the certification of results of the preceding primary election, however, the ballots shall not be changed and the former party nominee's name will appear on the ballot. Any ballots cast for the former party nominee will be counted for the person designated by the political party to replace the former party nominee.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm? App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0100/SEC111.HTM&Title=-%3E2006-% 3ECh0100-%3ESection%20111#0100.111

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-29   18:04:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: robin (#144)

This is from Mark Foley's webpage regarding the issue of children:

As a founder and co-chair of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus, Mark has been instrumental in the development and passage of legislation designed to protect our children.

He authored legislation that became law -- the Volunteers for Children Act -- that gives volunteer organizations that work with children, such as scouting and sports groups, access to FBI fingerprint-based background checks to ensure that they are not inadvertently hiring child molesters.

He has also cosponsored legislation toughening the penalties levied at those who hurt children and, most recently, has joined forces with the Administration and Congress to fight child predators. His Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act, which has passed both the House and Senate, will overhaul the way we track and monitor predatory pedophiles. He has also introduced and cosponsored legislation designed to eliminate child pornography and exploitive child modeling web sites.

Over the years, Mark also has worked closely with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and John Walsh (host of Fox TV’s America’s Most Wanted) on a variety of child protection programs. Among the latest of these is a program designed to show children how to protect themselves from online predators.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-29   18:11:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: SmokinOPs (#166)

that's exactly correct.

in the cases I read about that occurred in early 1990's I believe it was the federal government that produced what they called 'child pornography', but was in fact girls 14-16 taking off their clothes down to their underwear, no total nudity and no actual sex. and then the federal government marketed the child porn to young men who otherwise would not have bought it. and then these young men are saddled with the felony and the 20 years in jail and forever they are 'child porn' offenders. their lives are ruined. and this is so they can protect us from child porn. they are purposely dysfunctional in their enforcement.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   18:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: Jethro Tull (#135)

Tim Mahoney for Florida.com

The Republicans are meeting monday to try to salvage this. This guy faced questions about his sexual orientation in 2003 as he prepared to run for Sen. Bob Graham's seat. At a news conference in May of that year, he said he would not comment on rumors he was gay. He later decided not to seek the Senate seat to care for his parents.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-29   18:23:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: Red Jones (#169)

16 year olds are more mature physically than they were even 50 years ago due to nutrition and more sophisticated due to their exposure to media. But at the same time the evidence shows they are less mature mentally and less educated.

100 years ago in this country it was acceptable for a 22 year old to marry a 15 year old and start a family. Age disparate marriages were even encouraged as the older spouse was more financially established. Now in many states this is forbidden without court approval, but that same 15 year old would be tried as an adult in a criminal court. 100 years ago the married 15 year old with a family would be treated as a juvenile in a criminal proceeding. 180 degrees.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   18:25:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: mehitable (#152)

Well, Rush has several ex-wives he could loan Foley...there's still hope.

lol

christine  posted on  2006-09-29   18:25:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: bluedogtxn (#104)

The smart move would have been to flatly deny everything while quietly boarding a boat for Belize.

I totally agree!


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-09-29   18:25:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: Brian S (#0) (Edited)

whay nobody mention the truth that this scum is also a cryptic joo

Max  posted on  2006-09-29   18:41:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: christine (#172)

He's already listed on Rick Santorum's Republican Child Molester website:

"Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy."

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-29   18:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Brian S (#0)

shouldn't this be posted under 'pious perverts' with all the other republican/repture monkey stuff?

Remember, free speech is a privilege, not a right. In time of war speech should be censored and even prosecuted if it crosses the line. ~ Aaron on LP

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-09-29   18:46:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: christine (#172)

This reminds me of the movie 'Airplane':

Captain Oveur: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?
Captain Oveur: You ever been in a cockpit before?
Joey: No sir, I've never been up in a plane before.
Captain Oveur: You ever seen a grown man naked?
Captain Oveur: Joey, have you ever been to a Turkish prison?

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-29   18:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Brian S (#16)

A spokesman for Foley, the chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children

HA! This is priceless! Do you have a link to that?

It's too bad this smarmy POS will continue to get paid for a lifetime. This is a great story to print out and save to show to others. a great example of the inherent corruption and phoniness of govt. especially when it comes to what they call 'protecting children'.

Artisan  posted on  2006-09-29   18:51:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: SKYDRIFTER (#173)

Mark Foley's campaign war chest has plenty of money in it still, who will get it?

http://opensecrets.org/races/summary.asp?ID=FL16&Cycle=2006

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-29   18:54:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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