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Title: BREAKING: FLORIDA CONGRESSMAN MARK FOLEY TO RESIGN AFTER ABCNEWS.COM REPORT ABOUT SEXUALLY EXPLICIT EMAILS TO AN UNDERAGE INTERN
Source: Associated Press
URL Source: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=2508295
Published: Sep 29, 2006
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2006-09-29 15:34:02 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 4121
Comments: 213

WASHINGTON Sep 29, 2006 (AP)— Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., submitted a letter of resignation from Congress on Friday in the wake of questions about e-mails he wrote a former male page, according to a congressional official.

Foley, 52, had been considered a shoo-in for re-election until the e-mails surfaced in recent days.

Campaign aides had previously acknowledged that the Republican congressman e-mailed the former Capitol page five times, but had said there was nothing inappropriate about the exchange. The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.

Foley's election opponent, Democrat Tim Mahoney, has called for an investigation.

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#127. To: Brian S (#0)

The page was 16 at the time of the e-mail correspondence.

16 years old? Well the guy's a fruit and he might like them a bit young, but a 16 year old does not qualify one as a pedophile. In fact it's legal in many states and it's marrying age in most. It was an abuse of a position of power and that makes him a predator, but not the age of the complainant.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:03:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You forgot about the difference in his position as well. He's not just any older man looking for any 16 year old.

And he was the Chairman on the Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus. Plus he is the GOP representative for a state with a lot of missing children from its state foster care program.

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:17:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You forgot about the difference in his position as well.

No I didn't. I specifically made mention of it : "It was an abuse of a position of power..."

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:19:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So you did, sorry.

I still disagree with you about 16. It's too young to make a decision like this, one that could lead to a permanent lifestyle choice too. As Red pointed out, if it's a 16 and 17 year old girl and boy, that's different. But he's too young for the pressure brought to bear by an older man; especially, as you point out in this abuse of power.

robin  posted on  2006-09-29   17:24:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It's too young to make a decision like this, one that could lead to a permanent lifestyle decistion too.

We try them as adults and they can get married and drive. I think what the Congressman did was deplorable, but I'm just pointing out the schizophrenic nature of our laws and how there is no common thread between what ages are considered "adult" in different circumstances.

In Mississippi a 15 year old female can get married but a male must be 17. In some states the marrying age has no minimum threshold if the female is pregnant. And in yet other states, you can marry a 15 year old girl and legally have sex with her, but you'll go to prison for 20 years if you take a nude picture of her. Very odd.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   17:34:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I read about cases in California where undercover US federal agents hired teen girls aged 14-16 to take their clothes off for the camera. then they took the pictures and showed them to young men in early 20's and enticed the young men to buy copies. These were young men who did not seek these things, but the undercover agent sought them. and then the young men were busted for child pornography. and they went to jail for about 20 years. that does seem kind of schitzophrenic to me.

I think it is an evil agenda though myself. I think 99% of our people would never set policy to be so stupid and so bad. But thepeople who rule us have an evil agenda - and they impose these INSANE agendas.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   17:39:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I read about cases in California where undercover US federal agents hired teen girls aged 14-16 to take their clothes off for the camera.

Isn't it nice how our masters don't have to follow the same laws as us when "pursuing their legal duties"? It's the same as the undercover cop who makes multiple drug purchases and is exempted. It's not a matter of the officer incidentally coming into contact with contraband in the line of duty in order to capture it for evidence, but of someone intentionally seeking out the contraband in a manner that would send anyone of us to the clink.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   18:01:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

that's exactly correct.

in the cases I read about that occurred in early 1990's I believe it was the federal government that produced what they called 'child pornography', but was in fact girls 14-16 taking off their clothes down to their underwear, no total nudity and no actual sex. and then the federal government marketed the child porn to young men who otherwise would not have bought it. and then these young men are saddled with the felony and the 20 years in jail and forever they are 'child porn' offenders. their lives are ruined. and this is so they can protect us from child porn. they are purposely dysfunctional in their enforcement.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   18:11:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

16 year olds are more mature physically than they were even 50 years ago due to nutrition and more sophisticated due to their exposure to media. But at the same time the evidence shows they are less mature mentally and less educated.

100 years ago in this country it was acceptable for a 22 year old to marry a 15 year old and start a family. Age disparate marriages were even encouraged as the older spouse was more financially established. Now in many states this is forbidden without court approval, but that same 15 year old would be tried as an adult in a criminal court. 100 years ago the married 15 year old with a family would be treated as a juvenile in a criminal proceeding. 180 degrees.

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-29   18:25:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

those are keen observations in #171. I personally think that the modern practice of preventing or discouraging people from getting married at a young age is frequently very harmful to people. They're physically ready when they're young. and if they wait they will develop bad habits and patterns. that is my opinion anyway.

Red Jones  posted on  2006-09-29   19:43:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

When both are 'responsible' they might be ready... but much personal responsibility and the teaching of it has been erased. To be phsically ready, is really not the issue, is it? That's means you have 'parts' that work. But can you work to support your parts? If you are self-reliant, I would say, you can then be ready to look for another such individual. Otherwise, you avail yourself to leaches, or become one.

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-29   19:52:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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