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Title: 1. Rumsfeld hunts for more troops in europe, 2. Foley and WH teens (WMR)
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Published: Sep 29, 2006
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Sep. 29, 2006 -- LATE EDITION -- Republican Rep. Mark Foley submitted his resignation today to House Speaker Dennis Hastert effective immediately after AOL Instant Messages (IMs) were provided to ABC News showing that Foley had repeatedly sent IMs to a number of underage male congressional pages in which he mentioned male organs and sexual acts. Foley used the AOL screen name "Maf54." Foley sponsored HR 5749, a bill "to protect youth from exploitation by adults using the Internet, and for other purposes." Foley was the Chairman of the House Caucus on Missing and Exploited Children. Yesterday, the editor posted portions of a debate he had with Foley on Fox's Hannity & Colmes. Here is another portion of the transcript from the April 12, 2002 program: "HANNITY: Congressman Foley, welcome back to the program. Sean Hannity here. Sep. 29, 2006 -- Involvement of Bush Republicans in pedophilia and child prostitution back in news. Yesterday, ABC News reported that it obtained e-mails sent from Florida Republican Representative Mark Foley's private AOL account to a 16-year old former male congressional page in which the congressman requested the teen to provide his age, a photo of himself, and what he wanted for his birthday. The former page, believing Foley's e-mails to be "sick," provided copies to congressional staff members. In one e-mail, Foley wrote, "did you have fun at your conference?…what do you want for your birthday coming up?…what stuff do you like to do?" In another, Foley asked, ""how are you weathering the hurricane?…are you safe?…send me an email pic of you as well…" Foley has been a strong supporter of George W. Bush. Foley: asked 16 year old male congressional page who he did not know for his photo and what he wanted for his birthday. The scandal breaking around Foley comes as new questions are being raised about a story that rocked Washington in 1989. The Washington Times broke a major story about a top GOP lobbyist, registered lobbyist for Japan, and former ABC news reporter in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War named Craig Spence who was hosting huge parties for "U.S. military officers, businessmen, lawyers, bankers, congressional aides, media representatives and other professionals" and arranging liaisons between these power brokers and underage male teen prostitutes. Among Spence's close friends was Japanese nuclear scientist Motoo Shiina, a Liberal Democratic Party politician who was later suspected of passing defense secrets to the Soviet Union. Treasury Secretary Nicholas Brady, who heads the Secret Service, reluctantly conceded yesterday at the White House that the agency is looking into the July 3, 1988, tour - one of several arranged by a Secret Service officer for lobbyist Craig J. Spence." The report continued, "White House spokesman Marlin Fitzwater and several of his deputies have said repeatedly that they do not know if Mr. Bush considered it appropriate for male prostitutes to be touring the White House at 1 a.m. Yesterday, while talking informally to several reporters at the White House, Mr. Fitzwater parried one question this way: "What are they saying, that you should have sexual-preference checks on people that come into the White House?" The Washington Times also stated, "White House officials have said that the midnight tours such as those arranged for Mr. Spence do not threaten the First Family's security because they are allowed only in office areas and not the residence." In fact, according to the Times, then First Lady Barbara Bush brushed aside the story of the teen prostitutes entering the White House for midnight tours, saying, "There haven't been a lot of stories in our house about it . . . I'm not into all of this," adding it was "good" that The Washington Post wasn't following The Times' story. However, WMR has learned that Spence was close to a number of Washington Post journalists as well as others working for The New York Times, CBS News, and ABC News. Spence was arrested in New York City for gun and cocaine possession and in November 1989 was found dead in a Boston hotel, fully clothed in a black tuxedo and white bow tie reportedly from a suicide. There were no signs of injury to Spence's body. And, although Fitzwater and Mrs. Bush claimed Spence's male prostitutes never entered the private quarters of the White House, WMR has learned otherwise. WMR was told by one of the chief investigators on this story that one of the teen prostitutes said that he noticed damage to the underside of a cornice (a special molding along the top of a wall) in one of the bedrooms in the private quarters of ithe White House during one of his overnight stays. The Lincoln Bedroom and the Rose Guest Room are both located within the more secure confines of the private quarters on the second floor of the White House. The prostitute's story about a damaged cornice in a corner bedroom of the private quarters was later confirmed by a White House source. Moreover, the damage to the cornice could have only be seen by someone who was lying on their back on the bed. Damage to underside of White House bedroom cornice could have only been seen by someone lying on their back on the bed. FOLEY: I have no problem with any investigation, but let's not make a comparison between people who have been killed and people who are profiting from their death. I think this is the outrageous part of it. I will look at those situations, but I will not accept Cynthia McKinney's bald-faced lies and the kind of reprehensible statements she's made. Sep. 28, 2006 -- The clearly demented Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, on a recent trip to the Balkans, actually panhandled for small Balkan nations to send troops to Iraq to assist in the phony U.S. "war on terror." Rumsfeld, in newly-independent Montenegro, hit that nation up for an Iraq troop contribution, even though the small republic has plans to reduce the size of its small army by half -- to 2000 troops. Rumsfeld also hit up defense ministers from Macedonia, Croatia, Albania, Serbia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina. Beggar Rumsfeld to small European nations: Can you spare a few troops for my war? Rumsfeld, whose dementia is of great concern to his generals, is in single-track thinking about Iraq -- refusing to entertain withdrawal of U.S. troops while grabbing more Iraq fodder from the ranks of the Reserves and National Guard, and now, small nations in southeastern Europe. There is no word on whether Rumsfeld plans to visit the principalities of Liechtenstein, Monaco, or Andorra, or the republics of San Marino and Malta in search of troops. He may also have his eye on some of the Vatican City State's ceremonial Swiss Guards or the draft-age Greek Orthodox monks in the monastic Republic of Mount Athos.
FOLEY: Thanks, Sean.
HANNITY: By the way, it was good to see you in your home territory last
weekend in Palm Beach.
FOLEY: Thanks, Sean.
HANNITY: Good to meet your mom, by the way, very nice lady."
The Washington Times led off the exposure of the teen prostitution ring with this above-the-fold front page headline on June 29, 1989: "Homosexual prostitution inquiry ensnares VIPs with Reagan, Bush." The July 7, 1989 edition of the Washington Times reported, "Administration officials continued yesterday to stonewall reporters on the growing federal 'call boy' investigation, apparently hoping the scandal will fade before President Bush is asked his view of a late-night White House tour that reportedly included two male prostitutes. Nebraska Republican State Senator John DeCamp later said that many of the young prostitutes were procured from the Boy's Town orphanage near Omaha. 
New details emerge about 1989 Bush I White House teen prostitute scandal: teens entered private quarters of the White House while George W. Bush was occasionally residing there while acting as his father's hatchet man in the White House.
The Foley scandal reminded the editor of an exchange he had with Foley on Fox's Hannity & Colmes regarding comments made by Rep. Cynthia McKinney in April 2002 about Bush having prior warnings of the 911 attacks (now accepted as a fact):
COLMES: I agree with that. But the investigation aspect of it I think is something -- maybe she has a point on that one.
I know you want to respond, Wayne. Go ahead.
MADSEN: Well, it's typical. Attack the messenger. I mean, isn't it funny? The Republicans, when Bill Clinton was president, they dragged him into every possible conspiracy theory, except for linking him to the Lindbergh baby kidnapping. I mean, now we see the same people saying Cynthia McKinney has no right to her opinion. She's out there. I think it's nonsense.
FOLEY: Wayne, let me just say this. When they said that President Clinton launched the war simply to take away the Monica Lewinsky story, I absolutely refuted that and said that was absolutely wrong and unnecessary. I have not let false statements stand, whether they were Democratically directed or Republican directed. I think, in this particular instance, she has a fiduciary, as a member of Congress, to tell the facts and not lie.
HANNITY: Absolutely. Good line.
MADSEN: I think the Congress has a responsibility to investigate.
HANNITY: Congressman Foley -- we're going to give you the last word. Thank you for being with us, Mr. Madsen. Appreciate your time tonight.
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#1. To: robin (#0)
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Donny has knee problems. He just doesn't know it yet. We should help. I have a 35 oz. Louisville Slugger that might be just the thing. It's like picking what Hall of Famer was best trying to pick out which nazi I hate the most in this pack of jackals. I think if I had the choice who to waterboard and attach electrodes to genitals, it would probably be Cheney, but the Smirking Moron, Rummy, Gonzalez, First, that little crybaby Rice, Tony Snow, Pigboy, Sean Hannity, Rev. Moon, Falwell, Robertson...jeez, I would love to watch them jerking and screaming too. They want this country to go back to 1870. So I say, for a bit, let's go with it. Watching their boots twitching from a tree sounds good to me.
I can drive just up the road and get you a Louisville Slugger with your name emblazened on it. I'll be happy to get one for you if you privately message me with your mailing address. No, I'm not a fed. It's a great gift. I don't think you want blood on yours though.
It's a freebie...from my current home state. If you want bourbon, well, that's another story. Fast horses and slow wimmen are out of my league. A baseball/softball bat is my only offer. We used to have lots and lots of tobacco patches too, until Slick Willie took over.
I would love one. I'll PM you. I've played baseball since I was about five. The local kids in Maine were desperate for someone to at least play catcher so they could have a full team, so I grew up playing against older kids. Over the years, all my cool stuff has disappeared, particularly the LV bat autographed by Aaron and the glove I had as a kid signed by Spahn. Thanks for the offer...I'll PM you.
You'd be well advised to give it in your wife's name or someone like that. I'll send it to you, no matter what your choice is. I gave one to my softball playing buddies who is near fifty. He won't let anyone touch it and he never batted with it. It is a wonderful gift. Don't diss me, but I gave one to Jim Robinson at one of the DC FReaks circa 1998 or so.
WTF!? We bombed them into the ground for killing Muslims (A hell of a lot less that the US has) and now we want them to join our great miss adventure in Iraq and help the US...well, kill Muslims. Utter maddness. That's all I can really say.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
They want this country to go back to 1870. So I say, for a bit, let's go with it. Watching their boots twitching from a tree sounds good to me. This hilarious post of yours deserves a full text repeat. Maybe it's the Chardonnay but really, honestly ( glub, glub) I think you've got quite a flair with humor writing. HAHAHAHAHAHA....
WTF!? We bombed them into the ground for killing Muslims (A hell of a lot less that the US has) and now we want them to join our great miss adventure in Iraq and help the US...well, kill Muslims. Utter maddness. That's all I can really say. Logic is not the NeoCommies' strong point. .... What is their strong point?
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
FOLEY: Yes, sir, I would love a suggestion. What a flirt Foley is.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers This reminds me of that great line from Animal House, "Thank you sir. May I have another"?
I can't remember the scene, but I can imagine. It sounds like a line from a Monty Python skit too.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers That sick sob needs to be locked up in Club Fed with a boyfriend named Bubba.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Wouldn't you like to whack him about, BTP?? The only plus in the matter is that the House seems lost to the Ds and should that happen, the meltdown at FReeperville will be a classic.
#2. To: robin (#0)
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#3. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
#4. To: Mekons4 (#3)
I have a 35 oz. Louisville Slugger that might be just the thing.
#5. To: Mekons4 (#3)
#6. To: Fred Mertz (#5)
#7. To: Mekons4 (#6)
#8. To: robin (#0)
Rumsfeld also hit up defense ministers from Macedonia, Croatia, Albania, Serbia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
#9. To: Mekons4 (#3)
Donny has knee problems. He just doesn't know it yet. We should help. I have a 35 oz. Louisville Slugger that might be just the thing. It's like picking what Hall of Famer was best trying to pick out which nazi I hate the most in this pack of jackals. I think if I had the choice who to waterboard and attach electrodes to genitals, it would probably be Cheney, but the Smirking Moron, Rummy, Gonzalez, First, that little crybaby Rice, Tony Snow, Pigboy, Sean Hannity, Rev. Moon, Falwell, Robertson...jeez, I would love to watch them jerking and screaming too.
#10. To: Pissed Off Janitor, Destro (#8)
Rumsfeld also hit up defense ministers from Macedonia, Croatia, Albania, Serbia, and Bosnia-Herzegovina.
#11. To: robin (#0)
The Foley scandal reminded the editor of an exchange he had with Foley on Fox's Hannity & Colmes regarding comments made by Rep. Cynthia McKinney in April 2002 about Bush having prior warnings of the 911 attacks (now accepted as a fact):
The O'Reilly Factor (Fox News Network)
05-03-2002
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
O'REILLY: THE FACTOR "Follow Up" segment tonight, there is a fascinating legal battle going on over Internet child pornography. By a vote of six to three, the Supreme Court said virtual child porn is OK, that if you use animated figures to simulate sex with kids, no law is broken.
Now one congressman is counterattacking. Joining us now from Boston - from Washington, I should say -- is Mark Foley the co-chairman of the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus.
This is a very clever ruse that these pornographers - and I can't imagine anybody being on this earth and delving into this business, but they're there. Now they've come up with the technology where they can have the child sex with adults on the Internet or in movies or pictures and then use the technology, not to use a real child, but it looks like a real child, so the Supreme Court says since a real child is not being harmed, it's OK. How are we going to fight that?
REP. MARK FOLEY, (R), FLORIDA: Well we're going to fight it Bill. In fact they are not familiar with this technology, I'm certain. Otherwise they wouldn't rule the way they did.
O'REILLY: You're talking about the Supreme Court.
(CROSSTALK) FOLEY: Exactly, the Supreme Court sided with pedophiles the other day. They basically have allowed these individuals to possess process view pornography of children as long as it's considered virtual. You cannot tell the difference. So what we're going to do is review the '96 law that's been up - or overturned. We're going to rewrite it, so it will include images indistinguishable from the real child.
What John Ashcroft is concerned about prosecutors will not be able to under the standards of law produce a real child because they will not be able to find a real child because all you need to do is alter slightly the identity of the child and then suggest to the courts ...
O'REILLY: Yes but why ...
FOLEY: ... that it is virtual.
O'REILLY: ... the justices on the Supreme Court change their mind if you say - if you write another line into the law and say if it's undistinguishable, it's pornography, it's wrong. They're going to put forth the same argument. If there isn't an actual child being hurt, then we're not going to ban it. They're going to say the same thing, are they not?
FOLEY: Well we're worried they could conceivably say the same thing, and that's why we're taking our time and trying to produce language that will meet the challenge of the court. And that is a very difficult threshold if you will. We still feel that Furber (ph) when it was ruled upon in '82 by the Supreme Court suggested child pornography is illegal.
At that point it was virtually destroyed, if you will, from the shelves of the consumers. Nobody could get their hands on it. So, we're going to look at the Furber (ph) decision, try and craft a bill that now marries, if you will, the virtual from real.
O'REILLY: Can I make a suggestion?
FOLEY: Yes, sir, I would love a suggestion.
O'REILLY: All right, here's a suggestion -- here's how I would go about it. I would write a law that says, look, we all agree on the definition of child pornography. All right, so start in common ground, that it's sex depicting a child with the intention of arousing, you know, anybody -- a sexual arousal with the intent, all right? Keep your eye on the intent that if there is material with the intent using a child or a replica of a child, with the intent to arouse -- with the intent to have the person viewing that respond in a sexual way, that's illegal. Therefore, any image, you know, if you put a head of a gladiator on the body of a child, anything like that using a child's image in any way with the intent to arouse is illegal. That way I think you might be able to get around it.
FOLEY: That's exactly the language that I've been working with the Justice Department. That actually encapsulates, if you will, part of what we think will make this a crime and will be able to punish and prosecute ...
O'REILLY: Right because then you put the onus on the person who's consuming it rather than the person who's making it. So you're saying it's illegal for that person -- if that person who's consuming it starts to get sexually aroused because a child's -- replica of a child is involved. It's wrong. You can't do it.
FOLEY: And that's the problem, Bill. It's the person who is consuming it.
O'REILLY: Right.
FOLEY: Most times when we find a child's been destroyed, their life's been destroyed, they've been sodomized or raped or some other problem, we often find reams of child pornography on the computers of those individuals ...
O'REILLY: Absolutely.
FOLEY: ... who have been charged with the crime. So there is a cause and effect, and the intent is once they view it, they typically act out their, if you will, interest in children, and that's what we're trying to stop.
O'REILLY: You know it's almost like public intoxication. You can't be intoxicated in public because you might hurt somebody. That's the law. All right, you can't get drunk and stumble around in a road or take heroin and zombie around in the road. It's public intoxication, against the law. This is public viewing of something that could hurt a child against the law.
You've got to follow that stair step for these pinheads in the Supreme Court who know what they're doing. They just rule on the very narrow, narrow language, all right? And they don't try to see the big picture that laws are designed to protect the weakest among us, children. I'll give you the last word Congressman.
FOLEY: Well that's exactly right. They are the weakest among us, and we have to set a standard to at least protect them. I don't care what adults do with adults. I want to protect the children. I think our law can be crafted to such a way to provide protection for them.
O'REILLY: All right, give us an update as you continue with this, and we wish you the best of course.
FOLEY: Your help is always appreciated, Bill. Thanks so much.
O'REILLY: Coming next, the cruet (ph) of all this child sex stuff.
Intercourse among 14-year old girls is rising quickly. The stats in the story moments away.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
#12. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
O'REILLY: Can I make a suggestion?
#13. To: robin (#12)
What a flirt Foley is.
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#13)
This reminds me of that great line from Animal House, "Thank you sir. May I have another"?
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#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)
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