We have no idea at this point in time what the GOP did or didn't do. All I am saying is that if this was known for some time, as suggested, the timing is political to the max. The same goes for Gov. Allen. The pattern is clear if one cares to look.
"If the guy is a queer, thats HIS problem. I am into women; that have lots of love."
Yes Buck, you are noble for being a pain in the neck to strippers because you adequately compensate them for their sacrifice. That clearly is better then being the source of a pain in the anus paid for with the bribe of flattering words and a birthday gift. You are several cuts above the sort of man Mark the cover boy of page bending is.
Goodness me, the accomplishments that cause some people pride.
We have no idea at this point in time what the GOP did or didn't do. All I am saying is that if this was known for some time, as suggested, the timing is political to the max. The same goes for Gov. Allen. The pattern is clear if one cares to look.
And? If the guy is guilty of hanky panky with little boys he should be punished to the max. I see no problem with that. Politicians should always be punished to the max when caught.
Men who use capitalized words like that are not thinking about cheerleading tools. He's still dreaming of those Chi Chis he ogled last night. He's lucky you are not there to slap him for his lecherous thoughts.
You should see these girls, though. They wear the US Constitution while flying the flag of liberty. Its really a celebration about our GOD given rights.
"You should see these girls, though. They wear the US Constitution while flying the flag of liberty. Its really a celebration about our GOD given rights."
Now you've done it Buck. Show us a picture of this patriotic celebration you speak of. We need to see with our own eyes if they are upholding the Constitution, or if it is being used to hold up a sagging pair of something else.
You should see these girls, though. They wear the US Constitution while flying the flag of liberty. Its really a celebration about our GOD given rights.
They wear whatever it takes to clean out your wallet.
The US Constitution is already locked-upped and behind armed guards within the public venue. If you attempt to take a "peek" at the real thing you could be a terrorist. Shot dead by government guards.
I don't condone what Foley was doing, but evidently the DC elite ( both parties) had condoned it for quite some time.
Then 1 month before the November bi-election, Foley gets "revealed." Just another of a string of GOP scandals, it would seem.
Either the GOP is having some very bad luck all at once; or the GOP is throwing the election; or the Democrats are getting some help from some friends.
We have no idea at this point in time what the GOP did or didn't do. All I am saying is that if this was known for some time, as suggested, the timing is political to the max. The same goes for Gov. Allen. The pattern is clear if one cares to look.
And exactly what is so bad about what time it becomes public that someone is diddling pervertedly with children? Frankly, who gives a flying fig leaf when the sonofabitch is outted? Two days before the election wouldn't matter either! The important thing is to get him outted and out of our lives--outted and on a list of sex perverts--better yet brand the forehead in large letters, like CM, CA, SP, etc., so that every step the sonofabitch takes it is evident to everyone in society to avoid him like the plague.
I find it at least a tad bit MORE IMPORTANT to crucify the sonofabitch that wants to diddle with our children while hypocritically positioning himself as an advocate for missing and EXPLOITED kids!
Seems your outrage is seriously misplaced. I daresay if it was your son who was the page involved with some political bastard trying to dicker with him, your opinion of timing wouldn't matter--you'd be wanting to kill the bastard with your bare hands.....that is, of course, unless you're a girly sort of man or...*gasp* like foley!
All I am saying is that if this was known for some time, as suggested, the timing is political to the max.
Here in Tampa a political columnist from the Tampa Tribune does a Saturday morning radio show. Today he also mentioned that it was commonly rumored in Florida political circles that Foley had problems in this area.
I was personally unaware of this as I'm not a resident in Foley's district. News about Katherine Harris tends to drown out that of representatives from the east coast.
The same goes for Gov. Allen. The pattern is clear if one cares to look.
Perhaps the elite power brokers have recognized that the public is getting hip to their neo-con hustle and that its time for them to replace it with a newer (but equally malicious) illusion.
Either the GOP is having some very bad luck all at once; or the GOP is throwing the election; or the Democrats are getting some help from some friends.
Or there's something else going on... pure evil against children, sanctioned by the powers.... this is one of THE sickest things I've ever read in my life.
All I am saying is that if this was known for some time, as suggested, the timing is political to the max. The same goes for Gov. Allen. The pattern is clear if one cares to look
You're absolutely right. This was a political setup meant to hurt the Republican Party. Therefore, Foley's actions and the actions of the GOP are perfectly OK. Foley should be allowed to continue his important work in office, and the RP's role as pedophile enablers should be ignored. Friggin' dems think they can get away with this! The parent's didn't care, why should anyone else! The parent's are good Christians and understand that the RP is doing God's work. This work is hard, and Foley's an important man! If Foley needs some stress relief, he deserves it, regardless of who he turns to for that relief! It was probably a dem page that turned him in! Friggin' immoral ingrates. The audacity of people to bring this to our attention right now. Unfriggin' believeable that people do not see how political this is.
On top of that, this situation may have a negative impact upon the Republican Party and the president as CIC in a time of WAR! Therefore, whomever started this politically motivated witch-hunt is guilty of purposefully and materially supporting hostilities against the United States and should be held as an enemy combatant. This outing of potentially criminal actions on behalf of the party of family values right before the election has got to stop NOW!
How many observe Christ's birthday! How few, his precepts! O! 'tis easier to keep Holidays than Commandments. Benjamin Franklin
Dempsy: We have no idea at this point in time what the GOP did or didn't do. All I am saying is that if this was known for some time, as suggested, the timing is political to the max. The same goes for Gov. Allen. The pattern is clear if one cares to look.
rowdee: And exactly what is so bad about what time it becomes public that someone is diddling pervertedly with children?...Seems your outrage is seriously misplaced. I daresay if it was your son who was the page involved with some political bastard trying to dicker with him, your opinion of timing wouldn't matter
I had the same observation about "curious timing" as Dempsey which I pointed out yesterday when the story first broke.
I cannot speak for Dempsey, but I tried to explain better to you what I meant by pointing out "curious timing" in my post #76.
I do not condone Foley's behavior, but the DC political elite - BOTH PARTIES - condoned his behavior for quite some time.
Don't tell me that the Dimwits were unaware of Foley's "proclivities" regarding hitting on little boy page interns. Puhleaze - if all the pages were told to beware of Foley when they were hired, you don't think that this news wasn't picked up by Dimwit Dumbo ears in the hallways of Congresss? The 2 parties snoop on each other all the time.
So your outrage should be directed at our political elite, not at Dempsey and me. We are solely the messengers.
You bet it is curious timing. I stand my my observations in post #76. There is something happening behind the scenes beyond a pedophile "getting caught." Foley should have been "caught" at minimum 1 year ago or even before that time.
Consider how Clinton, hitting on women 24/7 for years and years, only manages to get "tripped up" by 1 woman, a certain Monica Lewin-sky and alas, this Oval Office scandal significantly contributes to the Dimwit Party losing the "trust" of the sheeple.
I don't have to read a Freaker thread to know the vast majority of the posts are something along the lines of:
"Damn librul media doesn't care about Barney Frank running a fudge packer brothel but when a Republican slips up they are all over them. Just part of their plan to destroy America."
or
"Ted Kennedy murdered a girl and he is still in the Senate. Librul Media- I Damn You!"
or
"Foley voted against X bill once. I always suspected he was a secret librual. I bet he was a sleeper Dem. I bet the GOP is just cleaning house at last. This is a good thing."
Jeez...that's somewhat harsh B. They've developed an entire Viking kitty-Zot thing that, althought I don't fully understand it, adds to the unique flavor of the FReak experience. All in all, it can be fun peeping in at the average GOP'er.
El Pee is a wasteland of "kill them all" degenerates. Freaker land is worse. There is no reason to read anything on that site unless one wants to demonstrate to others the idiocy, cowardice, and the embrace of jack booted fascism that defines your run of the mill GOPER.
Don't tell me that the Dimwits were unaware of Foley's "proclivities" regarding hitting on little boy page interns. Puhleaze - if all the pages were told to beware of Foley when they were hired, you don't think that this news wasn't picked up by Dimwit Dumbo ears in the hallways of Congresss? The 2 parties snoop on each other all the time.
Of course they were aware of what was going on. Both parties are corrupt and immoral and feel they are above the law and "have a right" to act any way they want to act, to include having sex with underage children, using drugs, or any other number of activities that would have John Q Public rotting behind bars. Chances are good that Foley and his fellow congressional perverts were high fiving each other as they swapped pages.
So your outrage should be directed at our political elite, not at Dempsey and me. We are solely the messengers.
I'm not outraged at all. It sounded to me like Dempsey was making light of the situation because it was political. Of course it was political. Everything in Washington DC is political, but that does not mean they should get a pass. I merely took what I thought was his attitude and expanded on it until it sounded like a Becket Saunders, Footloose, putupjob ImStillRight, Barfs alot, or BAC post.
There is something happening behind the scenes beyond a pedophile "getting caught." Foley should have been "caught" at minimum 1 year ago or even before that time.
I agree. It's also disgusting to hear that the "liberal" newsmedia sat on this story instead of being investigative journalists and busting this story twelve months ago. My guess would be that it was outed now to take attention away from the toture bill Congress just passed.
How many observe Christ's birthday! How few, his precepts! O! 'tis easier to keep Holidays than Commandments. Benjamin Franklin
"Foley voted against X bill once. I always suspected he was a secret librual. I bet he was a sleeper Dem. I bet the GOP is just cleaning house at last. This is a good thing."
A textbook example of a Badeye post.
How many observe Christ's birthday! How few, his precepts! O! 'tis easier to keep Holidays than Commandments. Benjamin Franklin
Don't tell me that the Dimwits were unaware of Foley's "proclivities" regarding hitting on little boy page interns. Puhleaze
They were. That is why they tried to out him in the last election. Darn 'librul media' wouldn't run with it.
You are too specific in your conspiracy theories. People are just going to gig you with facts and you won't provide a shred of cover for either Foley or the GOP. Try telling us that Foley was a Democratic plant under the control of Ken Starr. The people you are trying to fool don't need a rational excuse to continue their delusions, any excuse will permit them to fool themselves and cast the vote you are seeking.
The people you are trying to fool don't need a rational excuse to continue their delusions, any excuse will permit them to fool themselves and cast the vote you are seeking.
You speak in ciphers.
I want voters to throw the bums out, to cast their vote against any incumbent, be it a GOP or a Democrat. I have consistently said "vote for da other guy" and would include voting against an incumbent like Foley, whether he had an R or D after his name matters not. He is/was an incumbent ( and a sleaze bag incumbent at that).
So whatever you are nattering about my trying to influence people "to cast the vote I am seeking" in that I am simply questioning the "timing" of Foley being revealed as a perv, which the DC elite knew for some time... you have lost me.
As a matter of fact, the point I am making is that the 2 party system which we have in our midst, will benefit by the timing of Foley's scandal, because they - the powers that be and their incumbent political animals on a leash - want the sheeple to see GOP bad, Democrat good just prior to the upcoming bi-election. So that power is simply transferred from one feckless political party to another.
By voting against incumbents down the line, regardless of whether or not the incumbents have an R or D after their names, we the voters throw a wrench into the predictability of the political elites' well honed plans.
And fyi,the MSM represent as a whole a once proud profession that has been corrupted over the years by joy-nalists' craven desire to "maintain access" to power to get their "insider" news scoops and also by the limited family ownership of 99.9% of all MSM.
Sorry, but I didn't have a chance to read your comments.....it took me longer than 2 minutes to type up my response, I guarantee you. :)
I don't give a tinkers damn about the timing, as I tried to say earlier...all in politics is dirty tricks IMO. That is the least of my problems with either of the two heads of the leviathan monster called federal gubmint.
We can surmise all day long that 'they' did or did not know. I can just about guarantee that shimkus or hastert would have made an absolute point of saying that the whole committee or the minority chairman, at the minimum, would have been aware and why hadn't he spoken up or out more loudly in protest, blah blah blah. BUT.........neither of these two did. Which tells me, the idiots thought they could just keep it swept under the corner of the rug.
Furthermore, you can just about take it to the bank that the pages were given some sort of 'general' warning about the necessity of using caution when on the internet, if even that much.......there is no way in hell, they would have been told to 'watch out for that mark foley when you're on the internet'.
What the idiot clinton did with an adult intern is a whole different matter. I despise him to no end for his having done so, and thus opening the door for our impressionable young people to think its cool and safe and all that to do oral sex!
Another indictment against the merikan sheeple's ability to elect decent statesmen.
But then, this isn't about clinton......or monica.........its about a guy that is in the legislature who is pushing and voting on laws AGAINST what he does to the very people who these laws are meant to protect.
Everyone needs to get over clinton........he can't be president again. It is so old.
I'm with you in suspecting that this foley story was broken (and IMO by the gopers) as a way to brush over the torture barnyard bull bill. I found it interesting that under that bill, in the treaty section, there was a retroactive clause going back to November 1997.
Perhaps we're all wrong, and the msm will dutifully make a detailed report on the torture policy bill of the us as just passed by the house or the senate.
I heard there was two different bills, so it has to go into reconciliation, or conference committee.....if so, hold onto your hats because all bets are off as to what it will contain.
Well, excuse me,............I should have predicated that with something like: "according to reports in the msm".......or perhaps even listed the news articles which contained the information that it wasn't told to anyone. Its for damned sure I didn't just take some friggin party stance or grab a list of talking points. :)