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Title: HELP: Can You Find Jeff Rense?
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Jeff Rense Radio Show
URL Source: http://www.Rense.com
Published: Sep 30, 2006
Author: Me
Post Date: 2006-09-30 17:23:15 by Horse
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Views: 2759
Comments: 198
I have tried repeatedly to find Jeff Rense's websites. The major site is http://www.Rense.com . The other is http://www.RenseRadio.com . Each time I try I am redirected to a page by my ISP which says this address was not found. Zionists have been threatening him, his advertisers, guests and columnists for years. I would like someone to try to connect using a different ISP to see if it is being blocked by my ISP which is earthlink. I would have switched providers but I have been moving a lot and don't want to sign a new service contract especially since I might be going overseas in January. This notice I am getting for both of his websites is different than the one that says it is temporarily not available. It is possible that he changed his Internet address and that it will take a few hours for DNS servers to learn his new one.
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#83. To: AngelSpawn, BTP holdings, Robin, Zipporah, Horse (#74)
Yes, why aren't they? Why are only nazis being arrested? It seems to me that people upset about Zundel's arrest aren't afraid about his arrest as a 'freedom of speech' problem, as much as they are afraid about being arrested themselves because they share his ideas. For example, BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Oh my. One must ask why they are so afraid of the ideas in his book.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers I see. I thought were spreading the 'mockracy all over the lands out there.. so the eeeeternal flame of liberty could shine like a diamond in a goats *ss. Woops.. Scratch this post.
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Is it really. You have no idea at all what my ideas truly are. You are the one who seems to be the simpleton here. ;0)
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
I have already told you more than once that I do not adhere to Zundel's ideas, but that I do firmly believe that what has happened to him and David Irving is very wrong. I'll post this in English, I guess you are unfamiliar with Pastor Martin Niemöller's famous poem. When the Nazis came for the communists, When they locked up the social democrats, When they came for the trade unionists, When they came for me, "If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers How many of you believe this, honestly?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
The NeoConservatives who have the majority in the Bush/Cheney administration have their roots in Communism. And as I mentioned, Communism and Fascism lead to the same loss of freedom and liberties. See this diagram: May I ask you if you believe the government's explanation for how the WTC buildings fell?
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers So, if you're a nazi, you are telling me that 'they' are coming after me, next?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
You're ignorant of the history of Liberty, aren't you? "He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." - Thomas Paine Translation, in case one needs it: You don't throw people in jail because you disagree with them as you might be next if someone disagrees with you. BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people. So what? He has the right to believe what he wishes and we all have the right to disagree with you, him, or whomever we wish. Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
The Nazis were fascists. Fascism is not the only brutal form of govt. What we do know is that the Bush/Cheney Cabal have found a way to take away many of our liberties. They have even managed to mess with the Magna Carta.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Good. I disagree with him. Furthermore, I'm not unconcerned he's in prison.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Your posting history on this thread affirms this. Why don't you trot out the troika of Einstein, Freud and Marx. Now that would really give your game away. You got one of them on the thread already. Jews were also feared because of their practice of medicine. In the year 833, the Mohammedans forbade the Jews to adopt the profession of medicine, and in 1335, the Holy Synod of Salamanca declared that Jewish physicians entered this profession solely for the opportunities which it offered them to kill Christians. And too close to our own time, Pound’s ghost synopsizes the infection in America’s collective perceptual powers: In our universities, everything must be attributed to one of three Jews: Marx, Freud or Einstein; otherwise the instructors are not allowed to teach. Christ is a figure of fun to the “in” professors .... Marx modernized the ruthless concept of Jewish dictatorship in his philosophy of Communism. It was Einstein’s researches which led to the invention of the the Jewish Hell-Bomb. Freud declared war on the nobility of the human mind, insisting that our intelligence is found only in our reproductive organs and our anuses. This was the foundation of the “science” of psychiatry, although a gentile who came later, Carl Jung, found that people could be helped if one ignored the Freudian filth .... Thus Jung discovered that Jewish psychiatry could be very damaging to the gentile mind. thousand of gentiles who have placed themselves in the care of Jewish psychiatrists have become hopelessly insane, or have committed suicide. This was only to be expected. The Jews have also developed dangerous new drugs which induce insanity in gentiles ... Reader! You may now contemplate the current state of “modern medicine.” “The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Why do you equate advocates of restricting the power of government with naziism? That is completely fucking insane. Crazies of any stripe are only truely a threat when their ideas are shared and acted out by The State.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
You are ignorant about the history of nazism.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
It seems so simple, yet those who do not wish to understand never will. We call it ulterior motives where I'm from.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
You are ignorant about the history of government. Would you prefer being thrown to a hungry lion in the coluseum?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
Is English your first language?
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
I'm not sure the atomic part of pete is in use here. Perhaps we're dealing with internal gas seepage.
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It seems Stalin practiced that very well. Anyone who happened to disagree with him, off to the gulag. And anyone who he happened to disagree with suffered the same fate. Ingrid Rimland Zuendel told her story of how her father was deported to Siberia because as a German Mennonite in Ukraine, his Russian was not so good and at his age, his hearing was not so good. Her father was the principal at the school. When the Commissar came to take over and announced in Russian, "I am the principal," the old man misunderstood as him asking 'Who is the prinicpal.' and with a smile replied, "I am." For this he was arrested for 'resisting the state' and sent to the gulag, a trip from which he never returned.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Please continue your exposition. Like I said before, and you haven't understood quite yet The ideas you express are for those not yet versed with what you would like to tell them. The words you use are your own poison.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
How could I be? I grew up on the American media. On TV, the history of Nazism was more important than the history of America.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
Aren't you posing that question to Dakmar? :)
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Sadly, you're ignorant of both.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Laughable coming from someone who thinks Ernst Zuendel is a Nazi.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
But they will never make a movie about that incident or all the others like them.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers You're a pro-Fed troll, just like you were on LF. Later.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing. It seems so simple, yet those who do not wish to understand never will. We call it I suppose anybody who was going to question the legitimacy of your theories about various conspiracies are 'pro-fed' trolls. C'mon, dude. You have to have a stronger skin than that. Have you ever considered that history, or reality, for that matter, is a bit more grey than you want it in black and white?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
It's Zundel, not Zuendel.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
I pose you this question: The national socialist workers party (nazi party) comes to power in Germany in 1933 and begins to murder mentally ill people, homosexuals, opponents to the regime, Jews, and eventually something like 12 million Jews and non-Jews (millions of Poles, Russian, Ukrainians, others) in concentration camps and work camps. The nazis are overthrown in 1945 after the Most Murderous War in All of Humanity. This nazi group re-emerges in another country. After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country? No! This is why they are suppressed.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
It's Zuendel when you can't find an umlaut to make it Zündel. But most English speaking don't bother. "If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers No! This is why they are suppressed. You are a total fucking idiot. Many real nazis were recruited into the OSS / CIA for starters. My question for you is why you do not seem as eager to round up communists, who were responsible for far more murder than the nazis.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
The Rense site is back up.
You would do well to study the origins of the NeoConservatives. Start with the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks, Stalin and postwar Europe. Then read PNAC, research the lobbying by AIPAC and look at our foreign policy. Get back to us after that. Stalin, btw, murdered far more than Hitler. So did Mao, for that matter. But who's counting.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers I know what an umlaut is. It's nice to see someone very carefully taking care of Zundel's name.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Smarmy, very smarmy.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country? Uh - no. Not at all. Why would you even posit such a question?
Zundel is in jail for making that exact point. Prove to me that six million Jews died in gas chambers and their bodies burned in ovens. When proving it, please use no Jewish or 'holocaust' sites. Surely there's some type of evidence in the memoirs of Eisenhower or Churchill?
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
:)
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
Communists killed far more people than Nazis did. The Communist Party still operates in America without interference and Communists don't get deported for questioning capitalist history.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
What an emotional response for someone not supporting Zundel. :) Oh my God... Who is 'us' by the way?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
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#84. To: BTP Holdings (#82)
David Irving found one of his own books in the prison library in Austria. He autographed it, and the warden confiscated it, embarrassed, and then said, "We do not know how this book came to be in our library. It will be destroyed."
#85. To: Esso (#81)
#86. To: peteatomic (#71)
The people learning are those reading the extension of your ideas, BTP. It's that simple.
#87. To: peteatomic (#83)
It seems to me that people upset about Zundel's arrest aren't afraid about his arrest as a 'freedom of speech' problem, as much as they are afraid about being arrested themselves because they share his ideas.
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
there was no one left to speak out.
#88. To: BTP Holdings, Zipporah, Robin, Horse (#82)
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BTP holdings said: "The true Nazis (ZioNazis) are really running things, little does that numbnuts know."
#89. To: peteatomic (#88)
#90. To: robin (#87)
#91. To: peteatomic, BTP holdings, Robin, Zipporah, Horse (#83)
It seems to me that people upset about Zundel's arrest aren't afraid about his arrest as a 'freedom of speech' problem...
#92. To: peteatomic (#90)
So, if you're a nazi, you are telling me that 'they' are coming after me, next?
#93. To: AngelSpawn (#91)
So what? He has the right to believe what he wishes and we all have the right to disagree with you, him, or whomever we wish.
#94. To: peteatomic (#83)
For example, BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people.
A little further along this sad chronology of history, Mullins writes ...
#95. To: peteatomic (#90)
#96. To: AngelSpawn (#91)
#97. To: AngelSpawn (#91)
Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing.
#98. To: peteatomic (#96)
You are ignorant about the history of nazism.
#99. To: peteatomic, christine (#93)
Furthermore, I'm not unconcerned he's in prison.
#100. To: Dakmar (#98)
#101. To: AngelSpawn (#91)
Translation, in case one needs it: You don't throw people in jail because you disagree with them as you might be next if someone disagrees with you.
#102. To: BTP Holdings (#94)
#103. To: peteatomic (#96)
You are ignorant about the history of nazism.
#104. To: AngelSpawn (#99)
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#105. To: AngelSpawn (#103)
#106. To: peteatomic, Dakmar (#96)
You are ignorant about the history of nazism.
#107. To: BTP Holdings (#101)
#108. To: peteatomic (#105)
#109. To: Dakmar (#97)
ulterior motives freaker-bots where I'm from.
#110. To: AngelSpawn (#108)
#111. To: BTP Holdings (#106)
#112. To: lodwick (#109)
Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing.
#113. To: peteatomic (#111)
#114. To: peteatomic (#112)
After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country?
#115. To: Horse (#0)
#116. To: peteatomic (#112)
#117. To: robin (#113)
#118. To: peteatomic (#117)
I know what an umlaut is. It's nice to see someone very carefully taking care of Zundel's name.
#119. To: peteatomic (#112)
This nazi group re-emerges in another country.
#120. To: peteatomic (#110)
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Have you ever considered that history, or reality, for that matter, is a bit more grey than you want it in black and white?
#121. To: robin, peteatomic (#116)
Then read PNAC, research the lobbying by AIPAC and look at our foreign policy.
#122. To: peteatomic (#112)
After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country?
#123. To: robin, Christine, Zipporah, Aryan Nations (#116)
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