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Title: HELP: Can You Find Jeff Rense?
Source: Jeff Rense Radio Show
URL Source: http://www.Rense.com
Published: Sep 30, 2006
Author: Me
Post Date: 2006-09-30 17:23:15 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 2778
Comments: 198

I have tried repeatedly to find Jeff Rense's websites. The major site is http://www.Rense.com . The other is http://www.RenseRadio.com . Each time I try I am redirected to a page by my ISP which says this address was not found. Zionists have been threatening him, his advertisers, guests and columnists for years. I would like someone to try to connect using a different ISP to see if it is being blocked by my ISP which is earthlink. I would have switched providers but I have been moving a lot and don't want to sign a new service contract especially since I might be going overseas in January.

This notice I am getting for both of his websites is different than the one that says it is temporarily not available. It is possible that he changed his Internet address and that it will take a few hours for DNS servers to learn his new one.


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Thanks in advance for your help.

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#110. To: AngelSpawn (#108)

I suppose anybody who was going to question the legitimacy of your theories about various conspiracies are 'pro-fed' trolls.

C'mon, dude. You have to have a stronger skin than that.

Have you ever considered that history, or reality, for that matter, is a bit more grey than you want it in black and white?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: BTP Holdings (#106)

It's Zundel, not Zuendel.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: lodwick (#109)

Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing.

I pose you this question:

The national socialist workers party (nazi party) comes to power in Germany in 1933 and begins to murder mentally ill people, homosexuals, opponents to the regime, Jews, and eventually something like 12 million Jews and non-Jews (millions of Poles, Russian, Ukrainians, others) in concentration camps and work camps.

The nazis are overthrown in 1945 after the Most Murderous War in All of Humanity.

This nazi group re-emerges in another country.

After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country?

No! This is why they are suppressed.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:14:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: peteatomic (#111)

It's Zuendel when you can't find an umlaut to make it Zündel.

But most English speaking don't bother.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umlaut

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   22:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: peteatomic (#112)

After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country?

No! This is why they are suppressed.

You are a total fucking idiot. Many real nazis were recruited into the OSS / CIA for starters.

My question for you is why you do not seem as eager to round up communists, who were responsible for far more murder than the nazis.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:20:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Horse (#0)

The Rense site is back up.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-09-30   22:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: peteatomic (#112)

You would do well to study the origins of the NeoConservatives. Start with the Russian Revolution, the Bolsheviks, Stalin and postwar Europe.

Then read PNAC, research the lobbying by AIPAC and look at our foreign policy.

Get back to us after that.

Stalin, btw, murdered far more than Hitler. So did Mao, for that matter. But who's counting.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   22:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: robin (#113)

I know what an umlaut is. It's nice to see someone very carefully taking care of Zundel's name.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: peteatomic (#117)

I know what an umlaut is. It's nice to see someone very carefully taking care of Zundel's name.

Smarmy, very smarmy.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: peteatomic (#112)

This nazi group re-emerges in another country.

After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country?

Uh - no.

Not at all.

Why would you even posit such a question?

Lod  posted on  2006-09-30   22:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: peteatomic (#110) (Edited)

Have you ever considered that history, or reality, for that matter, is a bit more grey than you want it in black and white?

Zundel is in jail for making that exact point.

Prove to me that six million Jews died in gas chambers and their bodies burned in ovens. When proving it, please use no Jewish or 'holocaust' sites.

Surely there's some type of evidence in the memoirs of Eisenhower or Churchill?

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   22:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: robin, peteatomic (#116)

Then read PNAC, research the lobbying by AIPAC and look at our foreign policy.

:)

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:25:22 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: peteatomic (#112)

After the light of the fact that this group has caused extreme murder in civilization, would you want a trace of that in your country?

Communists killed far more people than Nazis did. The Communist Party still operates in America without interference and Communists don't get deported for questioning capitalist history.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   22:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: robin, Christine, Zipporah, Aryan Nations (#116) (Edited)

What an emotional response for someone not supporting Zundel.

:) Oh my God...

Who is 'us' by the way?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:26:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: peteatomic (#102)

The words you use are your own poison.

Odd coming from someone who spews hate.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   22:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: peteatomic (#117)

If you know what an umlaut is then why did you post "It's Zundel, not Zuendel."?

Zuendel is as correct as Zündel.
Attention to detail is nice when possible. I studied German in school, and even though it's been awhile I like to recall it.

[Don't worry, my father dropped bombs all over Germany during WWII, from a B-24. In fact, he was a squadron leader. Not that he enjoyed it; he tried to be careful. But it wasn't that easy hitting exactly on target back then. And the Germans did not have the London tubes to hide in like the UK]

16 million American men put on uniforms in WWII to end that mess. In the end, Stalin was the real winner.

Did you know that there are 2 ex-KGB working as consultants to Admiral Poindexter in Homeland Security?

http://www.newswithviews.com/iserbyt/iserbyt7.htm

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   22:30:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: AngelSpawn (#122)

Oh, I see, let's change this subject to the evils of another totalitarianism.. let's not talk about nazism, let's talk about something else :)

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:30:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: peteatomic (#123)

What an emotional response for someone not supporting Zundel.

What's so emotional about it? A little exasperated, you seem to enjoy being ignorant.

By us, I mean this forum of course. The posters on this thread. Getting paranoid or something?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   22:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: BTP Holdings (#124)

Hatred of nazis, yes...

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: peteatomic (#111)

It's Zundel, not Zuendel.

Zuendel is the correct German spelling.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   22:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: robin, peteatomic (#125)

If you know what an umlaut is then why did you post "It's Zundel, not Zuendel."?

bookmarked!

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: peteatomic (#123)

#123. To: robin, Christine, Zipporah, Aryan Nations (#116) (Edited)

What an emotional response for someone not supporting Zundel.

Hahaha, does spittle come flying off your fingers as you type this nonsense?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: peteatomic, BTP Holdings (#10) (Edited)

To: BTP Holdings Zundel is a neo-nazi. There isn't anything mistaken with calling him that, because it's true.

Why are you so concerned about Zundel?

Are you a nazi?

No one in their right mind would be a self-proclaimed nazi, that is if they know anything about what life was like under Hitler.

We are so used to seeing old German newsreels on the History Channel of Hitler driving down a major thoroughfare with huge crowds of Germans just going nuts over the sight of him, cheering and screaming with delight and so on. However the truth was very different.

ALL citizens lived under a dictatorship so severe it controlled every aspect of everyone's life. All people no matter what age were required to join all sorts of Nazi groups or they'd get in very bad trouble. Bicycle thieves received the death penalty, all sorts of things led to the death penalty. They shot people, hung people, even chopped people's heads off and this is not even including what happened to the Jews and other people in the slave camps.

It was a period of great horror for everyone around Europe, and anyone who is at all knowledgable in this area would never indentify with nazis, unless they are sadistic sociopaths.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-30   22:42:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: robin (#127)

What's so emotional about it? A little exasperated, you seem to enjoy being ignorant.

By us, I mean this forum of course. The posters on this thread. Getting paranoid or something?

I'm ignorant that you are all nazis, that's all I'm ignorant of. Thanks for educating me.

How many are FBI?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:42:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: peteatomic (#133)

I'm ignorant that you are all nazis, that's all I'm ignorant of. Thanks for educating me.

Most here are libertarians. I voted GOP since Nixon's 2nd term right up through 2000. Then after Abu Ghraib and 9/11 I voted for the Constitution Party in 2004.

And you?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   22:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: robin (#134)

I'm thinking Likud.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:45:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Dakmarr (#131)

Spittle comes from your mouth, you purple-helmet.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:47:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Dakmar (#135)

The foremost advocate of "system change" is Avigdor Liberman, the leader of the "Israel Our Home" party, composed mainly of immigrants from the former Soviet Union. This is a party of the radical Right--to use an understatement. In other countries, they might be called by another name.

"Israel Our Home" stands for unbridled nationalism and xenophobia. It is more radical than Joerg Haider in Austria and Jean-Marie Le-Pen in France. It calls for all Palestinians to leave the country, including the Arab citizens of Israel proper, who constitute 20% of the population. That does not prevent Ehud Olmert from declaring publicly that he would like to have this party in his government. (When Haider joined the Austrian government, Israel recalled its ambassador from Vienna.)

There's a new one, even worse, "Israel Our Home" party.

Political Corruption In Israel

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   22:48:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: robin (#134)

I'm a wellstone socialist-democrat.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:49:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: Dakmar (#135)

I'm thinking Likud.

Me too! Do they come in grape flavor?

Salsa shark. We're gonna need a bigger boat. Man goes into cage,
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint

Esso  posted on  2006-09-30   22:49:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: peteatomic (#136)

Spittle comes from your mouth, you purple-helmet.

No, you!

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:51:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: Esso (#139)

Likud-liks, like frozen cool aid on a stick?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:53:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: peteatomic (#138)

I'm a wellstone socialist-democrat.

A decent man, his death was a loss to the Democratic party.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   22:53:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: robin, peteatomic (#16)

I told you more than once I don't agree with his view of history.

What I said is that imprisoning someone for thought crimes is wrong. And he never advocated violence. You really don't know much about his case.

I just looked up Zundel on wikipedia, and apparently he is German-born and wrote something called, "The Hitler We Loved". He sounds like a nut.

I would never agree with his beliefs, but I don't believe in putting people in jail for outrageous beliefs as long as they don't commit violence.

I looked him up because there are a few of these guys who are in jail for being holocaust deniers and I get them mixed up.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-30   22:54:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: peteatomic, robin, AngelSpawn, Dakmar, Diana (#128)

Hatred of nazis, yes...

I strive to understand and see the historical significance of the time. Seeing this history as it really was is imperative to seeing what we have today. And the truth, the whole truth, is imperative to that. Hatred does not enter into the picture.

Now with the traitors, moles and assorted other self serving fascist types who populate our current government, that is a different story. They deserve the noose and nothing more.

Your lack of knowledge concerning our basis of law is simply stupendous. It is not a fascist or Nazi principle to control corporations, it is a principle of Roman law, fictions of law to be exact.

If you had read any of that post about Rockwell and American Nazism you would have seen that Rockwell wished to put the corporations under strict control, as they should be.

That is a POPULIST principle.

The fascists see the collaboration of corporations and government as an essential part of their philosophy, and that, strangely, is what we have now with the Bush Crime Family in charge, in spades! This has been on the march since Eisenhower warned of the military-industrial complex.

But, you continue to throw around words as if they mean nothing. That is typical bot mentality. And since your blind hatred of Nazis has colored your idea of everything else, it is no surprise that you suffer from the aforementioned cognitive dissonance on so many other matters of great importance.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   22:54:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: peteatomic (#138)

I'm a wellstone socialist-democrat.

Are you for or against the war in Iraq?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   22:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: robin (#16)

Over 40 million european civilians died in WWII.

No one gets arrested for denying that.

The famous Jazzfan apparently said to mention that is antisemitic and grounds for being put in Gitmo, something like that.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-30   22:56:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Diana (#132)

It was a period of great horror for everyone around Europe, and anyone who is at all knowledgable in this area would never indentify with nazis, unless they are sadistic sociopaths.

All of those NS people who parade around in brown shirts are merely a distraction and controlled by the opposition. They are there to keep these wierd ideas in everyone's mind, like we see from putrid pete.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   22:56:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Dakmar (#145)

I'm against the war in Iraq.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: BTP Holdings (#19)

As I was reading through this thread you pinged me to, I was initially puzzled that I could not see any of Peteatomics posts. Then I checked my bozo list. I don't remember when I bozoed him but it was obviously a prudent move.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-09-30   22:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: robin (#16)

When I was still on FR before being kicked off some time ago, I was on a thread about the holocaust, and I wrote that many, many people died in Europe during the reign of Hitler, and some poster Tic Toc told me I'd better watch it.

At the time I had no idea it was antisemitic to point out other people died in WWII also, like my great-grandparents who were slaughtered in East Prussia right after the war when the Soviets invaded and took over after raping and killing the citizens.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-30   23:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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