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Title: HELP: Can You Find Jeff Rense?
Source: Jeff Rense Radio Show
URL Source: http://www.Rense.com
Published: Sep 30, 2006
Author: Me
Post Date: 2006-09-30 17:23:15 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 2721
Comments: 198

I have tried repeatedly to find Jeff Rense's websites. The major site is http://www.Rense.com . The other is http://www.RenseRadio.com . Each time I try I am redirected to a page by my ISP which says this address was not found. Zionists have been threatening him, his advertisers, guests and columnists for years. I would like someone to try to connect using a different ISP to see if it is being blocked by my ISP which is earthlink. I would have switched providers but I have been moving a lot and don't want to sign a new service contract especially since I might be going overseas in January.

This notice I am getting for both of his websites is different than the one that says it is temporarily not available. It is possible that he changed his Internet address and that it will take a few hours for DNS servers to learn his new one.

Poster Comment:

Thanks in advance for your help.

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Begin Trace Mode for Comment # 151.

#4. To: Horse (#0)

Some of the Rense stuff was interesting, but he lost me on his Scientology, and his support for Ernst Zundel.

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   19:06:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You don't have to agree with Zundel to see that what happened to him is wrong.

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   19:07:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't have any sypathy for Zundel, or his neo-nazi buddies.

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   19:16:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

He is in prison for talking and writing about one subject.

I don't agree with him about this subject, but it's just plain wrong to imprison someone for having a different idea about history.

Were it any other holocaust he chose to question, he would not be in prison.

Next month the Bush administration may begin to decide who is a "terrorist supporter". They've been complaining about the internet blogs.

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   19:21:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you support Zundel, it's no skin off my back. I'm not concerned about him, imho. It doesn't bother me that the man is in a jail. He is simply living out what he would practice on others if he had the power. How fitting.

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   19:32:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I told you more than once I don't agree with his view of history.

What I said is that imprisoning someone for thought crimes is wrong. And he never advocated violence. You really don't know much about his case.

Here's Jewish David Irving's similar case:

http://www.rense.com/general73/thoughtcrime.htm

Do you think he advocates violence too?

Neither does, they simply don't believe that 6 million Jews were put to death in Concentration Camps during WWII.

Over 40 million european civilians died in WWII.

No one gets arrested for denying that.

And tens of millions of Russian Christians were put to death in Soviet gulags by Stalin. No one even studies that in school. There are no memorials or movies to them.

YOU ARE FREE TO DENY THAT ALL YOU WANT! No one will arrest you.

That is how it should be for all thoughts and views about history.

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   19:39:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you support Zundel, like I say, Hey, dude..ain't no skin off my back, jack.

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   19:47:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If by supporting Zundel you mean I think what happened to him is wrong, then yes.

And if you think what happened to him is okay, then just wait 'til next month or next year.

He is in prison, like Irving, for THOUGHT CRIMES.

Like Pastor Martin Niemöller wrote:

Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.

Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

Als sie mich holten,
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   19:51:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't believe that. I don't believe it because it isn't happening.

If this were true, what you are implying, than wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas?

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:01:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't believe that. I don't believe it because it isn't happening.

Christopher Bollyn was beaten and arrested in his own front yard by three cops last month.

It's happening. Wake up.

wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas?

Sometimes the cops just shoot them. Michael Kreca comes to mind.

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:00:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm going to take a very wild guess here and put out that these two are white supremacists.

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:03:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm going to take a very wild guess here and put out that these two are white supremacists.

Why do you keep bringing race into this discussion? Do you have some strange fascination with race?

Do you also think we should lock people up for being Communists, Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists?

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:14:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Do you also think we should lock people up for being Communists, Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists?

Yes, why aren't they?

Why are only nazis being arrested?

It seems to me that people upset about Zundel's arrest aren't afraid about his arrest as a 'freedom of speech' problem, as much as they are afraid about being arrested themselves because they share his ideas.

For example, BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people.

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:22:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

For example, BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people.

Your posting history on this thread affirms this.

Why don't you trot out the troika of Einstein, Freud and Marx. Now that would really give your game away. You got one of them on the thread already.

The ghost of Ezra Pound

A little further along this sad chronology of history, Mullins writes ...

Jews were also feared because of their practice of medicine. In the year 833, the Mohammedans forbade the Jews to adopt the profession of medicine, and in 1335, the Holy Synod of Salamanca declared that Jewish physicians entered this profession solely for the opportunities which it offered them to kill Christians.

And too close to our own time, Pound’s ghost synopsizes the infection in America’s collective perceptual powers:

In our universities, everything must be attributed to one of three Jews: Marx, Freud or Einstein; otherwise the instructors are not allowed to teach. Christ is a figure of fun to the “in” professors .... Marx modernized the ruthless concept of Jewish dictatorship in his philosophy of Communism. It was Einstein’s researches which led to the invention of the the Jewish Hell-Bomb. Freud declared war on the nobility of the human mind, insisting that our intelligence is found only in our reproductive organs and our anuses. This was the foundation of the “science” of psychiatry, although a gentile who came later, Carl Jung, found that people could be helped if one ignored the Freudian filth ....

Thus Jung discovered that Jewish psychiatry could be very damaging to the gentile mind. thousand of gentiles who have placed themselves in the care of Jewish psychiatrists have become hopelessly insane, or have committed suicide. This was only to be expected. The Jews have also developed dangerous new drugs which induce insanity in gentiles ...

Reader! You may now contemplate the current state of “modern medicine.”

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:37:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Please continue your exposition. Like I said before, and you haven't understood quite yet The ideas you express are for those not yet versed with what you would like to tell them.

The words you use are your own poison.

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:46:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

The words you use are your own poison.

Odd coming from someone who spews hate.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   22:30:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hatred of nazis, yes...

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:32:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Hatred of nazis, yes...

I strive to understand and see the historical significance of the time. Seeing this history as it really was is imperative to seeing what we have today. And the truth, the whole truth, is imperative to that. Hatred does not enter into the picture.

Now with the traitors, moles and assorted other self serving fascist types who populate our current government, that is a different story. They deserve the noose and nothing more.

Your lack of knowledge concerning our basis of law is simply stupendous. It is not a fascist or Nazi principle to control corporations, it is a principle of Roman law, fictions of law to be exact.

If you had read any of that post about Rockwell and American Nazism you would have seen that Rockwell wished to put the corporations under strict control, as they should be.

That is a POPULIST principle.

The fascists see the collaboration of corporations and government as an essential part of their philosophy, and that, strangely, is what we have now with the Bush Crime Family in charge, in spades! This has been on the march since Eisenhower warned of the military-industrial complex.

But, you continue to throw around words as if they mean nothing. That is typical bot mentality. And since your blind hatred of Nazis has colored your idea of everything else, it is no surprise that you suffer from the aforementioned cognitive dissonance on so many other matters of great importance.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   22:54:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks for coming out of the closet.

That wasn't so hard, was it?

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   23:02:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#160. To: peteatomic (#151)

Thanks for coming out of the closet.

That wasn't so hard, was it?

Wishful thinking on your part. Don't put words in my mouth, asshole.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30 23:21:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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