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Title: HELP: Can You Find Jeff Rense?
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Jeff Rense Radio Show
URL Source: http://www.Rense.com
Published: Sep 30, 2006
Author: Me
Post Date: 2006-09-30 17:23:15 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 2788
Comments: 198
I have tried repeatedly to find Jeff Rense's websites. The major site is http://www.Rense.com . The other is http://www.RenseRadio.com . Each time I try I am redirected to a page by my ISP which says this address was not found. Zionists have been threatening him, his advertisers, guests and columnists for years. I would like someone to try to connect using a different ISP to see if it is being blocked by my ISP which is earthlink. I would have switched providers but I have been moving a lot and don't want to sign a new service contract especially since I might be going overseas in January. This notice I am getting for both of his websites is different than the one that says it is temporarily not available. It is possible that he changed his Internet address and that it will take a few hours for DNS servers to learn his new one.
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#10. To: BTP Holdings (#8)
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Zundel is a neo-nazi. There isn't anything mistaken with calling him that, because it's true. Why are you so concerned about Zundel? Are you a nazi? If you are, then just say it. It doesn't bother me, personally. If you are a nazi, then you should be proud to exclaim it to the world, right?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Why are people concerned ? it has nothing or little to do with his political beliefs.. that issue is moot for me.. it has to do with rights.. and how and what happened to him.. for it could happen to any of us..
But they did much more to him than call him names. He is in prison for his view of history. There is a lot wrong with that.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Good luck with it.
If you support Zundel, it's no skin off my back. I'm not concerned about him, imho. It doesn't bother me that the man is in a jail. He is simply living out what he would practice on others if he had the power. How fitting.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Yep...got to Rense with NO problem...
I told you more than once I don't agree with his view of history. What I said is that imprisoning someone for thought crimes is wrong. And he never advocated violence. You really don't know much about his case. Here's Jewish David Irving's similar case: http://www.rense.com/general73/thoughtcrime.htm Do you think he advocates violence too? Neither does, they simply don't believe that 6 million Jews were put to death in Concentration Camps during WWII. Over 40 million european civilians died in WWII. No one gets arrested for denying that. And tens of millions of Russian Christians were put to death in Soviet gulags by Stalin. No one even studies that in school. There are no memorials or movies to them. YOU ARE FREE TO DENY THAT ALL YOU WANT! No one will arrest you. That is how it should be for all thoughts and views about history.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Yes, it's up now. But it was down for a bit.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers I guess it depends if I'm concerned about how a nazi is treated, and whether he should have the power to talk about his nazism. In Canada & Germany they have laws to suppress anti-nazi laws to suppress nazis. This doesn't bother me. The only problem I have with Zundel's sentence, is that he shouldn't serve longer time than (for example) a rapist or murderer. He should be released, and then probably, he'd be imprisoned again soon in the future.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Prove it! Post something substantive which proves it. And the moment you post something from a Zionist propaganda site, you will have outed yourself. Robin and Zipporah answered that quite succinctly already. You are living in LaLa Land to say something so absurd as that to me. The only ideology which means anything is the ideology of liberty. So, if you think you are free, or any of us for that matter, then you need a reality check. We are only free if we live as free men. Zuendel has been persecuted for doing exactly that. If you agree with that, then you disagree with liberty and freedom.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
I hope that you're just being goofy here, Pete. Otherwise, look for the thought police to round you up for some "unapproved" ideas that you may have. When we can no longer think, question, and voice our opinions - we are screwed.
Well Im concerned about everyone's rights.. even those who I dont agree with.. and it has nothing to do with his imprisonment in Germany but rather what happened to him in the US that matters to me..
That really is an assinine statement considering that Zuendel is a confirmed pacifist.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
If you support Zundel, like I say, Hey, dude..ain't no skin off my back, jack.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
I believe he was deported to Canada for visa problems. I don't know if he was arrested in the U.S. for his nazism.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
If by supporting Zundel you mean I think what happened to him is wrong, then yes. And if you think what happened to him is okay, then just wait 'til next month or next year. He is in prison, like Irving, for THOUGHT CRIMES. Like Pastor Martin Niemöller wrote: Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten, Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten, Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten, Als sie mich holten, "If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Cool, can I play? Is this game anything like "Where is Waldo?" /bad joke
How many observe Christ's birthday! How few, his precepts! O! 'tis easier to keep Holidays than Commandments. Benjamin Franklin
well not thats not exactly what happened to him..
There you go with that label again. As I said, post something substantive which proves it, something from his writings, anything which he said. You can't because there is no such proof.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Are we talking about he same guy? In the January 1977 White Power report, Zundel wrote: "Wherever we look, we White people find ourselves besieged by peoples of other races who compete aggressively against us for jobs, food, housing, education and above all -- power! The Jews are particularly adept at seizing or insinuating themselves into strategic positions in our society where they wield power far beyond the extent of their numbers....Through us, the White majority of Europe and America, the Jewish minority have obtained their advantages, including their Israel, their Federal Reserve, their World Bank and their International Monetary Fund. In exchange for these advantages, the Jews give us -- their White hosts -- wars, depressions, inflation, unemployment, energy shortages, higher and higher taxes and air piracy. Like sheep, they expect us to go down the road with them -- all the way to the kosher slaughterhouse. We White people of America have done nothing so far which would frustrate the Jews' expectations or their ambitions of becoming the world's slavemasters."
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
his sites work through my isp, also.
You are anti-white? Figures, traitor. As for that post from the white power site, it has been said before. “The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
I don't believe that. I don't believe it because it isn't happening. If this were true, what you are implying, than wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Enough said. Sorry, I'm not bothered by the man in prison. If he spends time longer than a rapist, than let him out. He'd go on probably with his racist screed, and be put right back in a cell. BTW, the Irish have always been considered 'niggers turned inside out' :)
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
If this were true, what you are implying, than wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas? They are, but in your narrow mindedness, you fail to see it.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Who?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Not yet, and not for "Nazi ideas". In many countries in europe it is against the law to deny the Jewish Holocaust. And there are a few people being arrested for denying the Jewish Holocaust. David Irving and Ernst Zundel or two such. But, the new terrorist bill just passed by Congress includes verbage about "terrorist supporters". And this WH has referred to those who disagree with the war in Iraq as helping the terrorists. For how much longer will we be allowed to disagree with this regime?
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers BTW, the Irish have always been considered 'niggers turned inside out' :) Nothing new about Irish, and it originated with the British. It is not surprising that you use the race card in this instance. It tells alot about your basic intellect, or lack thereof.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
All sorts of people who have run afoul of the system and are no criminals at all. The fact you must ask shows you are racing forward with eyes wide shut.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
There are. Last I checked there were over 2 million people in US prisons. If they ever did pass another Sedition Act, on what principle could you oppose it?
? But I'm a 'traitor' to the white race. For the British, don't you believe that they are originated from one of the lost tribes of Israel, aren't they?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
:) Yep, you're right. What about all the people on marijuana charges? :) I was trying to find out who was held on their nazi beliefs in the U.S...or those held on any speech in the U.S.
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
Baiting? Shame, shame. Maybe you should take you assclown tactics somewhere else. BTW, you seem to be such a hot shot know-it-all about Nazism. Here is something which you have no idea about because it is outside the limits of your perceptive abilities. http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/usanazis/chapter5.html And remember one thing, fascism has the ability to mould itself to its host nation. And that is another thing you fail to realize. Why don't you tell us now about what great Leader we have in Bush43. It would be right up your alley. ;0)
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Sure. I understand the worry about our freedoms in the U.S. However, putting anti-Bush people with nazis is very odd. Don't they have different agendas?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
No one in Pastor Martin Niemöller's poem had the same agenda, but they were all arrested. Communists and Fascists have a lot in common, they meet at the top of the political spectrum.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers That is correct. All of them are simply factions of the same order. Only The American Ideal of 1776 has the ability to counter it all. And that is why we need to get back to our culture and our true historical roots.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
Actually, I digress knowledge of nazism to your grace. You seem to be more than able to put nazism into practical verbal use than myself. When did nazis become so befouled of their own heritage? Or do you want to change the subject quickly, before anyone else reads the odd posts that your grace has posted (?)
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
OK. And ?
"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318
We shall round up all the enemies of the Revolution, Comrade, but the gulags will need guards with nerves of steel. Are you man enough to be a guard in the gulags that you so rightly call for? We also need to arrest and execute anyone that denies the urgency of Revolution.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
And so, understanding that what has happened to Zundel and Irving should help you see what the NeoCommies have in mind for anyone who doesn't comply with and believe in their wars and their plans for America. The NeoConservatives who run the Bush/Cheney Cabal began with Irving Kristol as Straussian-Trotskyites.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers Throwing people in prison for holding differing political opinions is what the Nazis did. That makes pete more Nazi than he claims Zundel is. Zundel's never called for jail for his opponents.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
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#11. To: peteatomic (#10)
#12. To: peteatomic (#10)
#13. To: Horse (#0)
Hoss - you need a new ISP - even dopey ATT linked me through asap.
#14. To: robin (#9)
#15. To: lodwick (#13)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#16. To: peteatomic (#14)
#17. To: who knows what evil, lodwick, Horse (#15)
#18. To: Zipporah (#11)
#19. To: peteatomic, robin, AngelSpawn, Eoghan, wbales, Zipporah (#10)
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Zundel is a neo-nazi. There isn't anything mistaken with calling him that, because it's true.
Why are you so concerned about Zundel?
Are you a nazi? If you are, then just say it. It doesn't bother me, personally. If you are a nazi, then you should be proud to exclaim it to the world, right?
#20. To: peteatomic (#14)
I'm not concerned about him, imho. It doesn't bother me that the man is in a jail. He is simply living out what he would practice on others if he had the power. How fitting.
#21. To: peteatomic (#18)
#22. To: peteatomic (#14)
He is simply living out what he would practice on others if he had the power.
#23. To: robin (#16)
#24. To: Zipporah (#21)
#25. To: peteatomic (#23)
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Kommunist.
habe ich geschwiegen;
ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.
habe ich nicht protestiert;
ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.
gab es keinen mehr, der protestieren konnte.
#26. To: Horse (#0)
HELP: Can You Find Jeff Rense?
#27. To: peteatomic (#24)
#28. To: peteatomic (#24)
I don't know if he was arrested in the U.S. for his nazism.
#29. To: BTP Holdings (#19)
#30. To: Horse (#0)
there are some utilities here that you can check site status with, like ping, traceroute and analyzepath, or just do the whole dossier to see if the domain name has expired, etc.
#31. To: peteatomic (#29)
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Are we talking about he same guy?
#32. To: robin (#25)
#33. To: BTP Holdings, Zipporah, Robin, Horse (#31)
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BTP Holdings says: "You are anti-white? Figures, traitor."
#34. To: peteatomic (#32)
I don't believe that. I don't believe it because it isn't happening.
#35. To: BTP Holdings (#34)
#36. To: peteatomic (#32)
#37. To: peteatomic (#33)
Sorry, I'm not bothered by the man in prison. If he spends time longer than a rapist, than let him out. He'd go on probably with his racist screed, and be put right back in a cell.
#38. To: peteatomic (#35)
Who?
#39. To: peteatomic (#32)
than wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas?
#40. To: BTP Holdings (#37)
#41. To: SmokinOPs (#39)
#42. To: peteatomic (#40)
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For the British, don't you believe that they are originated from one of the lost tribes of Israel, aren't they?
#43. To: robin (#36)
#44. To: peteatomic (#43)
putting anti-Bush people with nazis is very odd. Don't they have different agendas?
#45. To: robin (#44)
Communists and Fascists have a lot in common, they meet at the top of the political spectrum.
#46. To: BTP Holdings (#42)
#47. To: robin (#44)
#48. To: peteatomic (#14)
It doesn't bother me that the man is in a jail.
#49. To: peteatomic (#47)
#50. To: robin, peteatomic (#49)
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