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Title: HELP: Can You Find Jeff Rense?
Source: Jeff Rense Radio Show
URL Source: http://www.Rense.com
Published: Sep 30, 2006
Author: Me
Post Date: 2006-09-30 17:23:15 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 2824
Comments: 198

I have tried repeatedly to find Jeff Rense's websites. The major site is http://www.Rense.com . The other is http://www.RenseRadio.com . Each time I try I am redirected to a page by my ISP which says this address was not found. Zionists have been threatening him, his advertisers, guests and columnists for years. I would like someone to try to connect using a different ISP to see if it is being blocked by my ISP which is earthlink. I would have switched providers but I have been moving a lot and don't want to sign a new service contract especially since I might be going overseas in January.

This notice I am getting for both of his websites is different than the one that says it is temporarily not available. It is possible that he changed his Internet address and that it will take a few hours for DNS servers to learn his new one.


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#34. To: peteatomic (#32)

I don't believe that. I don't believe it because it isn't happening.

If this were true, what you are implying, than wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas?

They are, but in your narrow mindedness, you fail to see it.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   20:05:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: BTP Holdings (#34)

Who?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:06:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: peteatomic (#32)

Not yet, and not for "Nazi ideas".

In many countries in europe it is against the law to deny the Jewish Holocaust. And there are a few people being arrested for denying the Jewish Holocaust. David Irving and Ernst Zundel or two such.

But, the new terrorist bill just passed by Congress includes verbage about "terrorist supporters". And this WH has referred to those who disagree with the war in Iraq as helping the terrorists.

For how much longer will we be allowed to disagree with this regime?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   20:06:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: peteatomic (#33)

Sorry, I'm not bothered by the man in prison. If he spends time longer than a rapist, than let him out. He'd go on probably with his racist screed, and be put right back in a cell.

BTW, the Irish have always been considered 'niggers turned inside out' :)

Nothing new about Irish, and it originated with the British.

It is not surprising that you use the race card in this instance. It tells alot about your basic intellect, or lack thereof.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   20:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: peteatomic (#35)

Who?

All sorts of people who have run afoul of the system and are no criminals at all. The fact you must ask shows you are racing forward with eyes wide shut.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   20:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: peteatomic (#32)

than wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas?

There are. Last I checked there were over 2 million people in US prisons. If they ever did pass another Sedition Act, on what principle could you oppose it?

SmokinOPs  posted on  2006-09-30   20:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: BTP Holdings (#37)

?

But I'm a 'traitor' to the white race.

For the British, don't you believe that they are originated from one of the lost tribes of Israel, aren't they?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:12:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: SmokinOPs (#39)

:) Yep, you're right. What about all the people on marijuana charges? :)

I was trying to find out who was held on their nazi beliefs in the U.S...or those held on any speech in the U.S.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: peteatomic (#40) (Edited)

For the British, don't you believe that they are originated from one of the lost tribes of Israel, aren't they?

Baiting? Shame, shame.

Maybe you should take you assclown tactics somewhere else.

BTW, you seem to be such a hot shot know-it-all about Nazism. Here is something which you have no idea about because it is outside the limits of your perceptive abilities.

http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/usanazis/chapter5.html

And remember one thing, fascism has the ability to mould itself to its host nation. And that is another thing you fail to realize.

Why don't you tell us now about what great Leader we have in Bush43. It would be right up your alley. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   20:23:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: robin (#36)

Sure. I understand the worry about our freedoms in the U.S. However, putting anti-Bush people with nazis is very odd. Don't they have different agendas?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:25:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: peteatomic (#43)

putting anti-Bush people with nazis is very odd. Don't they have different agendas?

No one in Pastor Martin Niemöller's poem had the same agenda, but they were all arrested.

Communists and Fascists have a lot in common, they meet at the top of the political spectrum.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   20:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: robin (#44)

Communists and Fascists have a lot in common, they meet at the top of the political spectrum.

That is correct. All of them are simply factions of the same order.

Only The American Ideal of 1776 has the ability to counter it all.

And that is why we need to get back to our culture and our true historical roots.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   20:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: BTP Holdings (#42)

Actually, I digress knowledge of nazism to your grace. You seem to be more than able to put nazism into practical verbal use than myself.

When did nazis become so befouled of their own heritage? Or do you want to change the subject quickly, before anyone else reads the odd posts that your grace has posted (?)

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: robin (#44)

OK. And ?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:35:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: peteatomic (#14)

It doesn't bother me that the man is in a jail.

We shall round up all the enemies of the Revolution, Comrade, but the gulags will need guards with nerves of steel. Are you man enough to be a guard in the gulags that you so rightly call for? We also need to arrest and execute anyone that denies the urgency of Revolution.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   20:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: peteatomic (#47)

And so, understanding that what has happened to Zundel and Irving should help you see what the NeoCommies have in mind for anyone who doesn't comply with and believe in their wars and their plans for America.

The NeoConservatives who run the Bush/Cheney Cabal began with Irving Kristol as Straussian-Trotskyites.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   20:39:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: robin, peteatomic (#49)

Throwing people in prison for holding differing political opinions is what the Nazis did. That makes pete more Nazi than he claims Zundel is. Zundel's never called for jail for his opponents.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   20:42:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: AngelSpawn, peteatomic (#48) (Edited)

Give Kapos R US! a call, 24/7.

What did Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn call the guards at the gulag I wonder.

Does anyone know if his latest book is available in English yet?


Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn being searched at a checkpoint in a gulag, c.1950

It starts with a checkpoint here, a roadblock there.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   20:43:04 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: AngelSpawn, Robin (#50)

Actually, he called for potential pogroms against Jews in the U.S. and Canada if 'anti-hate' campaigns continued.

How is that possible?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: robin (#51)

When will those checkpoints begin?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   20:50:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: robin (#51)

Your support for the anti-revolutionary activities of Solzhenitsyn and Zundel is duly noted, Comrade robin. Please report to the Scoop Jackson Reeducation Center for a voluntary intake assessment. Bring a toothbrush and a first-aid kit.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   20:51:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: peteatomic (#52)

Actually, he called for potential pogroms against Jews in the U.S. and Canada if 'anti-hate' campaigns continued.

Where did he do this? Provide a link please.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   20:52:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: peteatomic (#52)

Actually, he called for potential pogroms against Jews in the U.S. and Canada if 'anti-hate' campaigns continued.

I don't think so. There's nothing about that in what you posted, nor in anything I've read about him. But I don't claim to have read everything he ever wrote.

Also, it's not like he was ever in a position to act on such a proposal (and I doubt he ever made such a statement). Unlike the NeoCommies who are poised to do exactly that. FEMA camps are ready and waiting. The torture bill has passed.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   20:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: AngelSpawn (#54)

Bring a toothbrush and a first-aid kit.

Wow! A first-aid kit too; thanks!

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   20:54:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: peteatomic (#53)

You tell me.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   20:55:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: peteatomic (#32)

I don't believe that. I don't believe it because it isn't happening.

Christopher Bollyn was beaten and arrested in his own front yard by three cops last month.

It's happening. Wake up.

wouldn't fairly large numbers of people be arrested all over the U.S. for things other than promoting nazi ideas?

Sometimes the cops just shoot them. Michael Kreca comes to mind.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: robin (#58)

Next Friday afternoon after happy hour.

:)

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:00:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: robin (#57)

A first-aid kit too; thanks!

The Revolution can not be expected to provide bandages for the reeducation of the proles, assuming they survive it.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: robin, peteatomic (#9)

He is in prison for talking and writing about one subject.

I think it's a crime to throw people in jail for studying history, trying to determine what happened in any given time and place. If he's the man who is the historian who got thrown in jail for trying to study the events of the holocaust, that is so wrong. People don't get thrown in jail for studying the Civil War for instance. Makes no sense to me.

Diana  posted on  2006-09-30   21:03:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: AngelSpawn (#59)

I'm going to take a very wild guess here and put out that these two are white supremacists.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:03:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: peteatomic (#60)

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   21:03:35 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Diana (#62)

Zundel is a historian as Einstein was a plumber.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:05:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: robin, AngelSpawn (#54) (Edited)

Please report to the Scoop Jackson Reeducation Center for a voluntary intake assessment.

Please note that the Scoop Jackson Reeducation Center has been renamed as The Glorious Lord-Commander Dubya Bush Freedom Camp.

Intake is no longer voluntary. You have 24 hours to report.

P.S. Don't bother with the toothbrush.

Salsa shark. We're gonna need a bigger boat. Man goes into cage,
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint

Esso  posted on  2006-09-30   21:08:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: robin (#64)

It's an interesting picture, but I still don't know who is out to 'get you'. For what?

Why is the government out to get you?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: peteatomic (#65)

Zundel is a historian as Einstein was a plumber.

Einstein the thief

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-09-30   21:09:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: peteatomic (#46)

Or do you want to change the subject quickly, before anyone else reads the odd posts that your grace has posted (?)

Not at all. Perhaps someone will learn something from it, since it seems you have not. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:09:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: peteatomic (#65)

So are you saying it's all well and good that Zundel is in prison for having a politically incorrect opinion? Or even that he's in prison for possibly telling outrageous lies that in no way can be construed as an attempt to defraud anyone out of anything?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   21:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: BTP Holdings (#69)

The people learning are those reading the extension of your ideas, BTP. It's that simple.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Dakmar (#70)

What is a nazi?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: YertleTurtle (#68)

Please post passages from that opinion, if you could.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: peteatomic, robin (#63)

I'm going to take a very wild guess here and put out that these two are white supremacists.

Why do you keep bringing race into this discussion? Do you have some strange fascination with race?

Do you also think we should lock people up for being Communists, Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists?

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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