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Title: HELP: Can You Find Jeff Rense?
Source: Jeff Rense Radio Show
URL Source: http://www.Rense.com
Published: Sep 30, 2006
Author: Me
Post Date: 2006-09-30 17:23:15 by Horse
Keywords: None
Views: 2738
Comments: 198

I have tried repeatedly to find Jeff Rense's websites. The major site is http://www.Rense.com . The other is http://www.RenseRadio.com . Each time I try I am redirected to a page by my ISP which says this address was not found. Zionists have been threatening him, his advertisers, guests and columnists for years. I would like someone to try to connect using a different ISP to see if it is being blocked by my ISP which is earthlink. I would have switched providers but I have been moving a lot and don't want to sign a new service contract especially since I might be going overseas in January.

This notice I am getting for both of his websites is different than the one that says it is temporarily not available. It is possible that he changed his Internet address and that it will take a few hours for DNS servers to learn his new one.


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Thanks in advance for your help.

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#70. To: peteatomic (#65)

So are you saying it's all well and good that Zundel is in prison for having a politically incorrect opinion? Or even that he's in prison for possibly telling outrageous lies that in no way can be construed as an attempt to defraud anyone out of anything?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   21:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: BTP Holdings (#69)

The people learning are those reading the extension of your ideas, BTP. It's that simple.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Dakmar (#70)

What is a nazi?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:12:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: YertleTurtle (#68)

Please post passages from that opinion, if you could.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:13:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: peteatomic, robin (#63)

I'm going to take a very wild guess here and put out that these two are white supremacists.

Why do you keep bringing race into this discussion? Do you have some strange fascination with race?

Do you also think we should lock people up for being Communists, Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists?

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:14:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Esso (#66)

The Glorious Lord-Commander Dubya Bush Freedom Camp.

You forgot the Enduring part.

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jessejane  posted on  2006-09-30   21:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: peteatomic (#72)

A nazi is an asshole who believes it is appropriate to use force to make everyone conform to a political agenda. Do you think Zundel's books should be burned?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   21:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Esso (#66)

The Glorious Lord-Commander Dubya Bush Freedom Camp.

I hear the kids get free french fries at delousing time.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: peteatomic, AngelSpawn (#63)

I'm going to take a very wild guess here and put out that these two are white supremacists.

The more you say the more you reveal of your true self. I got it right when I said you were an assclown infiltrator of this site.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: YertleTurtle (#68)

The Manufacture and Sale of Saint Einstein

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:18:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: peteatomic (#67)

And it broadens the definition of “unlawful enemy combatant” to include not only those who fight the United States but also those who have “purposefully and materially supported hostilities against the United States.” The latter group could include those accused of providing financial or other indirect support to terrorists, human rights groups say. The designation can be made by any “competent tribunal” created by the president or secretary of defense.

From the NY Times

"indirect support" could come to mean protesting the war in Iraq.

Greg Palast and Christopher Bollyn have already had gone one round with the govt.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   21:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: jessejane (#75)

You forgot the Enduring part.

No, Dumbya has had it with enduring freedom. He ain't putin' up with it no mo!

Salsa shark. We're gonna need a bigger boat. Man goes into cage,
cage goes into salsa, shark's in the salsa. Our shark! - Dakmar Quint

Esso  posted on  2006-09-30   21:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Dakmar (#76)

Do you think Zundel's books should be burned?

David Irving found one of his own books in the prison library in Austria. He autographed it, and the warden confiscated it, embarrassed, and then said, "We do not know how this book came to be in our library. It will be destroyed."

The true Nazis (ZioNazis) are really running things, little does that numbnuts know.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:20:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: AngelSpawn, BTP holdings, Robin, Zipporah, Horse (#74)

Do you also think we should lock people up for being Communists, Muslims, Christians, Jews or Buddhists?

Yes, why aren't they?

Why are only nazis being arrested?

It seems to me that people upset about Zundel's arrest aren't afraid about his arrest as a 'freedom of speech' problem, as much as they are afraid about being arrested themselves because they share his ideas.

For example, BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:22:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: BTP Holdings (#82)

David Irving found one of his own books in the prison library in Austria. He autographed it, and the warden confiscated it, embarrassed, and then said, "We do not know how this book came to be in our library. It will be destroyed."

Oh my. One must ask why they are so afraid of the ideas in his book.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   21:22:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Esso (#81)

I see. I thought were spreading the 'mockracy all over the lands out there.. so the eeeeternal flame of liberty could shine like a diamond in a goats *ss. Woops..

Scratch this post.

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jessejane  posted on  2006-09-30   21:24:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: peteatomic (#71)

The people learning are those reading the extension of your ideas, BTP. It's that simple.

Is it really. You have no idea at all what my ideas truly are. You are the one who seems to be the simpleton here. ;0)

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: peteatomic (#83)

It seems to me that people upset about Zundel's arrest aren't afraid about his arrest as a 'freedom of speech' problem, as much as they are afraid about being arrested themselves because they share his ideas.

I have already told you more than once that I do not adhere to Zundel's ideas, but that I do firmly believe that what has happened to him and David Irving is very wrong.

I'll post this in English, I guess you are unfamiliar with Pastor Martin Niemöller's famous poem.

When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.

When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.

When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.

When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   21:25:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: BTP Holdings, Zipporah, Robin, Horse (#82) (Edited)

BTP holdings said: "The true Nazis (ZioNazis) are really running things, little does that numbnuts know."

How many of you believe this, honestly?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: peteatomic (#88)

The NeoConservatives who have the majority in the Bush/Cheney administration have their roots in Communism.

And as I mentioned, Communism and Fascism lead to the same loss of freedom and liberties.

See this diagram:

May I ask you if you believe the government's explanation for how the WTC buildings fell?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   21:29:41 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: robin (#87)

So, if you're a nazi, you are telling me that 'they' are coming after me, next?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: peteatomic, BTP holdings, Robin, Zipporah, Horse (#83)

It seems to me that people upset about Zundel's arrest aren't afraid about his arrest as a 'freedom of speech' problem...

You're ignorant of the history of Liberty, aren't you?

"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself."

- Thomas Paine

Translation, in case one needs it: You don't throw people in jail because you disagree with them as you might be next if someone disagrees with you.

BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people.

So what? He has the right to believe what he wishes and we all have the right to disagree with you, him, or whomever we wish.

Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:31:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: peteatomic (#90)

So, if you're a nazi, you are telling me that 'they' are coming after me, next?

The Nazis were fascists. Fascism is not the only brutal form of govt.

What we do know is that the Bush/Cheney Cabal have found a way to take away many of our liberties. They have even managed to mess with the Magna Carta.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   21:33:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: AngelSpawn (#91)

So what? He has the right to believe what he wishes and we all have the right to disagree with you, him, or whomever we wish.

Good. I disagree with him. Furthermore, I'm not unconcerned he's in prison.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:36:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: peteatomic (#83)

For example, BTP holdings believes I'm a 'traitor' to white people.

Your posting history on this thread affirms this.

Why don't you trot out the troika of Einstein, Freud and Marx. Now that would really give your game away. You got one of them on the thread already.

The ghost of Ezra Pound

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:37:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: peteatomic (#90)

Why do you equate advocates of restricting the power of government with naziism? That is completely fucking insane. Crazies of any stripe are only truely a threat when their ideas are shared and acted out by The State.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   21:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: AngelSpawn (#91)

You are ignorant about the history of nazism.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:38:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: AngelSpawn (#91)

Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing.

It seems so simple, yet those who do not wish to understand never will. We call it ulterior motives where I'm from.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   21:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: peteatomic (#96)

You are ignorant about the history of nazism.

You are ignorant about the history of government. Would you prefer being thrown to a hungry lion in the coluseum?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-09-30   21:40:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: peteatomic, christine (#93)

Furthermore, I'm not unconcerned he's in prison.

Is English your first language?

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Dakmar (#98)

I'm not sure the atomic part of pete is in use here. Perhaps we're dealing with internal gas seepage.

~~

jessejane  posted on  2006-09-30   21:45:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: AngelSpawn (#91)

Translation, in case one needs it: You don't throw people in jail because you disagree with them as you might be next if someone disagrees with you.

It seems Stalin practiced that very well. Anyone who happened to disagree with him, off to the gulag. And anyone who he happened to disagree with suffered the same fate.

Ingrid Rimland Zuendel told her story of how her father was deported to Siberia because as a German Mennonite in Ukraine, his Russian was not so good and at his age, his hearing was not so good. Her father was the principal at the school.

When the Commissar came to take over and announced in Russian, "I am the principal," the old man misunderstood as him asking 'Who is the prinicpal.' and with a smile replied, "I am." For this he was arrested for 'resisting the state' and sent to the gulag, a trip from which he never returned.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:45:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: BTP Holdings (#94)

Please continue your exposition. Like I said before, and you haven't understood quite yet The ideas you express are for those not yet versed with what you would like to tell them.

The words you use are your own poison.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: peteatomic (#96)

You are ignorant about the history of nazism.

How could I be? I grew up on the American media. On TV, the history of Nazism was more important than the history of America.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: AngelSpawn (#99) (Edited)

Aren't you posing that question to Dakmar? :)

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: AngelSpawn (#103)

Sadly, you're ignorant of both.

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   21:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: peteatomic, Dakmar (#96)

You are ignorant about the history of nazism.

Laughable coming from someone who thinks Ernst Zuendel is a Nazi.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-09-30   21:50:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: BTP Holdings (#101)

But they will never make a movie about that incident or all the others like them.

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-09-30   21:51:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: peteatomic (#105)

You're a pro-Fed troll, just like you were on LF.

Later.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-09-30   21:53:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Dakmar (#97)

Governments DO NOT have the right to throw people in jail for thinking, speaking or writing.

It seems so simple, yet those who do not wish to understand never will. We call it ulterior motives freaker-bots where I'm from.

Lod  posted on  2006-09-30   21:54:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: AngelSpawn (#108)

I suppose anybody who was going to question the legitimacy of your theories about various conspiracies are 'pro-fed' trolls.

C'mon, dude. You have to have a stronger skin than that.

Have you ever considered that history, or reality, for that matter, is a bit more grey than you want it in black and white?

"That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" p318

peteatomic  posted on  2006-09-30   22:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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