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Title: FBI Agent Posed as White Supremicist for 14 Years (Tied to OKC Bombing)
Source: Associated Press via APFN
URL Source: http://disc.server.com/discussion.c ... 49495;article=80973;title=APFN
Published: Jun 5, 1999
Author: Wendy Nakamura
Post Date: 2005-04-15 00:35:41 by OKCSubmariner
Keywords: Supremicist, Bombing), Agent
Views: 1041
Comments: 207

FBI Agent Penetrated Into The Heart of Darkness

WASHINGTON DC (AP) - For almost fourteen years, he lived in a world of hatred, bigotry, and violence.

He attended Klan rallies and meetings of buttoned-down intellectual racists in business suits in the most upmarket hotels. He met and hosted Holocaust deniers like German- Canadian Ernst Zundel and British author David Irving. He was there at cross-burnings and street marches, waving a picket sign or a Confederate battle flag and always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups, making contacts with neo-Nazis and nationalist extremists the world over. He infiltrated the inner councils of almost every top hate group in the United States and even in Europe. He even filed a libel suit against another White supremacist who claimed he was an FBI informant.

But he was.

Last month FBI Special Agent James R. Finchley, a decorated Vietnam veteran and "one of the best and bravest men ever to graduate out of Quantico" according to a former instructor at the world-famous FBI academy who knew him and trained him, came in from the cold at last, after successfully carrying out the longest-running deep-cover infiltration of any criminal or terrorist underworld in the history of American law enforcement.

Finchley's fourteen years in the White racist underground produced only a handful of actual prosecutions, but "that wasn't his primary mission," according to the former director of the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit at Quantico, Kenneth M. Lanning. "He was there to listen and learn, and the wealth of information he obtained for us is beyond price."

"It is not too much to say that we now know virtually everything there is to know about organized race hatred in this country. These guys [White supremacist activists and leaders] couldn't go to the can without us knowing about it," Lanning said.

FBI Director Louis Freeh was not available for comment, but U. S. Attorney General Janet Reno told a reporter, "We usually do not make any public statement on covert operations of this nature until all criminal cases associated with an investigation have been brought to a conclusion, but I will say that Special Agent Finchley displayed uncommon courage, resourcefulness, and initiative in a very complex and often dangerous situation."

Finchley's cover was so deep he is reported to have actually married one woman who was involved in a White supremacist group he wanted to penetrate. On that occasion he went to St. Petersburg, Russia to meet and bring to America a Russian woman who was to be the "mail order bride" of a nationally known White supremacist leader who was banned from entering the country because of his views.

Finchley was so taken with the woman that he persuaded her to marry him instead, allegedly in order to keep her out of the clutches of the racist leader. Soon afterwards he and his Russian wife amicably divorced and Agent Finchley arranged for her to get a green card and relocate to Florida.

Justice Department sources are close-mouthed about many of the details of Finchley's fourteen-year odyssey into the murky underworld of racism and hate. "There are still some loose ends to be tied up, and once this gets out there are going to be some very angry White supremacists out there," said a spokesman for the Department. The source refused to say whether Agent Finchley had been moved into the Witness Protection Program or what measures were being taken to prevent retaliation by Finchley's former comrades in the racist movement.

Possibly the most bizarre event of Finchley's long- running undercover operation was when he was accused of having been involved in the Oklahoma City bombing as "John Doe Number Two" by the editor of a racist newsletter who had long suspected Finchley of being a Federal agent. Finchley took an absolutely unprecedented step: he sued the editor for libel and obtained a 110,000 default judgment when the defendant didn't show up in court to try the case.

"I don't know if he's been successful in collecting any of the money the judge awarded him," said Lanning.

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#129. To: Zipporah (#127)

did find one article that mentioned a Harold Covington in connection with him

Could you post the article and/or the link to it? Thanks.

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-15   23:12:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: Continental Op (#59)

badeye made an almost identical statement to me, a few weeks ago. is it possible that the two of you agree on something?

So 2 people have said it to you, yet you still dismiss it?

You don't feel like "explaining" today? (Oh, my!) So what the hell are you doing on a comments forum??

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:17:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: TaZ (#76)

If someone really wanted to defeat the elite and their minions, "patriots" they wouldn't be re-hashing something that is a dead horse over & over again (OKC, Flight 800 etc.)

Wrong. Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

I want to know about these things, especially about the horrendous OKC bombing. Whoever perpetrated it is counting on our forgetting it. The secret is to NOT forget, but to continue to ask questions until the light shines on all of it.

I don't forget the Reichstag fire, and I wasn't even alive when it happened.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: TaZ (#77)

I'm so deep in the enemie's lair I'm the last thing they have to watch

Sounds a bit over the top. And you're calling OTHER people "crazy"??

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: TaZ (#84)

my present status as In-House Press in a Federal Court...

I've been around federal courts a bit, but I don't recall hearing about this. What exactly is "In-House Press in a Federal Court"? Are you saying you are media relations person for a federal court?

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: TaZ (#92)

Christianity into sect-like cults makes me nauseous...

You'd rather see all of Christianity under Rome, as in the past?

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:31:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: TaZ (#100)

then again with the gov't. basically controlling the pipes for the Net, they could be using word recognition software...what a collosal waste of time that would be

Our government, engaging in a collossal waste of time?

Nah. That could never happen.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: Zipporah, OKCSubmariner (#126)

He tried to get John Stadtmiler to provide a false Alibi for Hunt's whereabout's on the day of the OKC bombing-he tried to get Stadtmiller to say Hunt was in Floirda at a gun show at the time.

I asked John about this and he confirmed it.

christine  posted on  2005-04-15   23:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: Zipporah, Continental Op (#104)

I know how we can settle your difference of opinion. Let's have one of you begin a series of posts advocating the violent overthrow of the government. We'll see if anything comes of it.

Cont Op, I think you would be the most competent one to take on a job like this. So why don't you start now. Zipporah and the rest of us promise to have bail money ready, just in case. (Not that anything would happen... silly... lol.)

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:37:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: tom007 (#106)

I've certainly never seen anyone online tell the other posters that they were a member of the FBI or the BATF. Hell, FBI agents won't even let their picture be taken--not even for a church directory. (I know one whose family posed without him in the directory. I also went to school with the daughter of an FBI agent and she told me this was so.)

Besides, with the amount of BS that's flung around on all internet boards, no one would believe the poster anyway.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:40:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#137)

Cont Op, I think you would be the most competent one to take on a job like this. So why don't you start now. Zipporah and the rest of us promise to have bail money ready, just in case. (Not that anything would happen... silly... lol.)

LOL!! (you think he'll buy it? I've got an expired credit card that we could use :P )

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-15   23:41:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Continental Op (#108)

when I was a moderator.

Where were you a mod? At FR?

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: christine (#136)

I asked John about this and he confirmed it.

How strange.. what on earth? I tell ya nothing should surprise me..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-15   23:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#140)

Where were you a mod? At FR?

Hey there are thousands and thousands of forums.. hmm where else could it have been.. venture a guess ? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-15   23:43:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: Zipporah, OKCSubmariner, anyone interested in the OKC Bombing Rally on the 19th20th (#141)

WingTV--today's show

christine  posted on  2005-04-15   23:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: OKCSubmariner (#125)

Very interesting. Given your encyclopedic knowledge on this subject, I think the buffoons who call you "paranoid" are as clueless as they come. They don't realize that with your intense study of the subject, you are indeed in a different situation than they are.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Zipporah (#137)

hahahaha

christine  posted on  2005-04-15   23:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: christine (#143)

Thanks Chris!

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-15   23:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: Zipporah (#139)

Zipporah, this is serious! If we are to find out which of you is right on this issue, we must engage in empirical research! Continental Op is the perfect person to do this, due to his superior intellect and his ironclad self-control.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:51:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#144)

Given your encyclopedic knowledge on this subject

i've spoken at length with OKCS and he blew me away with his knowledge of the case. the criticizers on this thread know NOT of which they speak.

christine  posted on  2005-04-15   23:51:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Zipporah (#142)

venture a guess ?

Charmin toilet paper used to have a forum. On it, people were encouraged to discuss their experiences with Charmin. There was robust and thorough discussion of the qualities of their fine product.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:53:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: christine (#145)

hahahaha

Continental Op is on the verge of making internet forum history, and of quite possibly making some new material which we may all enjoy on Court TV, and all you can do is laugh! (mmph... hee hee... mmph)

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: christine (#148)

So, while your average internet discusser of politics has nothing to fear from the "feds", that doesn't mean that someone who has delved so deeply into the OKC bombing has nothing to fear from them.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15   23:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#151)

yeah, i'd say that would be very true.

christine  posted on  2005-04-16   0:04:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Refinersfire, Christine, tom007, Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist, lodwick, Brian S, swarthyguy, Uncle Bill, aristeides, itisa1mosttoolate, robin, Diana, Red Jones, honway, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, wakeup, fatidic, Zipporah, CWRWinger, Sparker (#127)

Zipporah:

Someone had asked for a photo of Finchley and although I didnt find one.. I did find one article that mentioned a Harold Covington in connection with him.. ??

I did a search on Finchley and Covington and found the article below at http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg1999/zg9906/990613.html. The article indicates that the original story I posted was fake. If it truly is a fake then you have my profound apologies. But someone should also wonder why the origianl story I posted is on the APFN website at http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi? disc=149495;article=80973;title=APFN.

However, everything posted on this F4um thread about Gary D. Hunt is factual.

I also discovered that the same link http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg1999/zg9906/990613.html is given at the very end, bottom of the APFN story site. I wonder if APFN wonders if the original story was a fake or that the story calling it a fake is itself a fake?? I do not know why it is on the APFN site this way and if they even realize this. I should have further investigated the site given at the bottom of the APFN story much earlier. I am very sorry.

Fake News Article Source Found

http://www.zundelsite.org/english/zgrams/zg1999/zg9906/990613.html

NNA featured an article yesterday detailing a fake news article entitled: "FBI Agent Penetrated the Heart of Darkness". After a detailed search of the AP Wire, Fox (the supposed source) and other news agencies, including calls to AP's Washington DC and NYC offices (who are very interested in who wrote this story for legal reasons), it was found to be a fraud intended to ruin the reputation of a devoted activist to our Cause.

This article was posted and e-mailed using a not-so-anonymous Hotmail address. Well known radio personality and author Kevin Alfred Strom (kevin.strom@innocent.com) traced the IP address of the original Usenet posting of this message. He found that the author was the well known forger, liar, and possible FBI agent (see http://209.196.26.118/) Harold Covington, who was the former "leader" of a bogus Internet organization using the stolen

name of "NSWPP". This is not the first use of forged or fake messages by Mr. Covington who had one time posted a fake resignation letter attributed to Kevin Strom (see http://209.196.26.118/articles/Resign.htm).

NNA and virtually every patriotic leader, activist and organization on the planet have universally condemned Harold Covington as a psychopath and a compulsive liar. Covington pops up periodically to distract and attract new racialists who don't know his background. Those who run across him are subscribed to his Internet ranting against their will and subjected to 20, 30 and sometimes 100 messages a day of attacks on various racialists and Nationalist organizations.

The Internet is a powerful weapon against our enemies as it allows us to reach millions with our message. It is also a powerful weapon in the hands of our enemies who know how to disrupt our progress and subvert our aims. Now is the time to focus and work harder than ever toward our goals. Don't give our enemies the satisfaction of sitting back and laughing at our follies while they march us toward oblivion.

Vincent Breeding

NNA Editor

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-16   0:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: OKCSubmariner (#153)

Geez, this stuff is so involved, I'm not sure who is faking what.

Okay, but if the Finchley stuff is "fake", there was still an assertion that the SPLC had at least one operative at Elohim City, right?

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-16   0:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#149)

Charmin toilet paper used to have a forum. On it, people were encouraged to discuss their experiences with Charmin. There was robust and thorough discussion of the qualities of their fine product.

LOL!!

Well heres just a sampling of a few others :P

flashlight forum

What Underwear Do You Wear forum

Fairy Forum

Drunk Friends forum

Sea Slug forum

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-16   0:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: OKCSubmariner (#153)

Thanks.. I did a search of Covington and there were a lot of really strange posts etc associated with that name.. extremist stuff.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-16   0:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: OKCSubmariner, Zipporah, Robin (#153)

I read the Finchley article, but it struck me as phony because of all the various people this guy was supposedly close to. For one person, he knew too many people and was involved with too many groups and activities. A few of the people mentioned are historians who are just after the truth, yet they were lumped in with the ever-dangerous "white supremecists". I felt it was just another attempt to slander all those bad old white racists, AKA white people.

From reading that article, it gave the impression that there are millions of them in this country just plotting and planning all sorts of frightening acts, which I think was the real agenda of that article.

It made the alarm bells go off in my head big time.

Diana  posted on  2005-04-16   1:06:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#132)

OKC: The article indicates that the original story I posted was fake.

I rest my case...

TaZ  posted on  2005-04-16   1:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Refinersfire, Christine, tom007, Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist, lodwick, Brian S, swarthyguy, Uncle Bill, aristeides, itisa1mosttoolate, robin, Diana, Red Jones, honway, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, wakeup, fatidic, Zipporah, CWRWinger, Sparker (#154)

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t:

"..there was still an assertion that the SPLC had at least one operative at Elohim City, right? "

SPLC was linked to Elohim city by a Freeh memo obtained by a FOIA request last year:

Southern Poverty Law linked to OKC Bombing.

http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=7134

Morris Dees

A four page Federal Bureau of Investigations report, straight from the desk of then FBI director Louis Freeh, dated January 4, 1996, brings to light an undercover operation conducted by the Southern Poverty Law Center involving convicted OKC bomber Timothy McVeigh.

The McCurtain Daily Gazette, an Idabel, Oklahoma newspaper, recently obtained a copy of the aforementioned FBI cable and ran a story on Dec. 14, 2003, that disclosed earth shattering information concerning the OKC bombing. The most startling revelation involved the purported civil rights group, headed by Morris Dees, conducting an "intelligence gathering operation" at Elohim City, a "white supremacist compound" long suspected of being heavily infiltrated by federal agents.

At a press conference before a speaking engagement at Southeastern Oklahoma University on Nov.11, 2003, Morris Dees admitted that SPLC had an agent operating inside Elohim City on April 17, 1995, just two days before the OKC bombing which according to the FBI report is the day Timothy McVeigh placed a call to certain persons at Elohim City. Dees further stated that " Timothy McVeigh probably was at Elohim City, based on evidence we've been able to pick up - stuff I can't really go into." He also said, "We work very closely with the CIA, FBI, ATF."

This new information when coupled with the fact that the federal governments alphabet soup organizations seem to be intertwined with subversive movements such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith and the Jewish Defense League to the extent that U.S law enforcement agencies have in the past farmed out intelligence operations to these said anti- freedom groups we can begin to understand the ineffectiveness of the investigations surrounding one of the most horrific terrorist attacks to take place on American soil.

Some other groundbreaking admissions enclosed in former FBI director Louis Freeh's cable include the following "Prior OKBOMB investigation determined that (named withheld) had placed a telephone call to (name withheld) on April 5, 1995, a day he was believed to have been attempting to recruit a second conspirator to assist in the OKBOMB attack."

The gov't. spin has always been that McVeigh and Nichols had been plotting and scheming together dating back to the fall of 1994, but according to the FBI report at least up to April 5, 1995, just two weeks before the OKC bombing a second conspirator did not exist. Obviously this leads to the question ,who was the second conspirator on April 19,1995, ? An agent provacateur perhaps? Well the answer to this question might also be found in the directors report when he refers to a person at Elohim City as having a long relationship with one of the two indicted conspirators.

Even after these stunning admissions, nearly 9 years after the fact justice has not been served, but it is refreshing to know that the trail leading to the true conspirators is not as cold as was once believed.

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-16   3:38:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: OKCSubmariner (#159)

Thanks! I am still stunned by the quickness with which McVeigh was executed. If we were to take all the people executed in this country in, say, the last 20 years, and rank them according to the speed with which their executions were carried out, I think McVeigh would come in at first place.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-16   7:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: TaZ (#158)

I rest my case...

Sorry, counsel, you've forgotten that there's such a thing as rebuttal. The poster you've been vilifying got on here and TOLD everyone the problems with the story HE posted. Which is more than you lying bots would do.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-16   8:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#133)

Courts can have reporters assigned to them. For example, Linda Greenhouse is (she certainly was, I think she still is) New York Times correspondent for the Supreme Court.

aristeides  posted on  2005-04-16   9:49:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Diana (#157)

Back in the 1960's, it was notorious that a high percentage of the members of the American Communist Party were FBI informants. In fact, some of the most vociferous of them were FBI agents provocateurs.

aristeides  posted on  2005-04-16   9:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: aristeides (#162)

Courts can have reporters assigned to them. For example, Linda Greenhouse is (she certainly was, I think she still is) New York Times correspondent for the Supreme Court.

Thanks for the explanation. Well, then... I don't believe the NYT or other national press have seen fit to send anyone down here to our federal courts. I just can't imagine why they don't view them as important enough to have assigned correspondents.

Our federal courts may not rate, but our state supreme court is housed in a larger building than is the U.S. Supreme Court. Now THAT'S impressive! (cough)

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-16   10:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#131)

Wrong. Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.

I want to know about these things, especially about the horrendous OKC bombing. Whoever perpetrated it is counting on our forgetting it. The secret is to NOT forget, but to continue to ask questions until the light shines on all of it.

I don't forget the Reichstag fire, and I wasn't even alive when it happened.

Now cut that out.. you're making too much sense here.. :P

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-16   10:18:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Zipporah (#96)

His name is Bill Israel. Pp. 270-71 of Bush's Brain.

aristeides  posted on  2005-04-16   10:40:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: Zipporah, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t (#165)

I don't forget the Reichstag fire, and I wasn't even alive when it happened.

They covered their traces so well that historians still consider it unproven that the Nazis were behind the Reichstag fire.

Myself, I find to be decisive a fact that Hans Bernd Gisevius stressed in his book To the Bitter End: on the evening of the Reichstag fire, at the height of an election campaign, the three leading orators of the Nazi Party -- Hitler, Göring, and Goebbels -- all happened to be at home in Berlin and without any speaking engagements for the evening.

aristeides  posted on  2005-04-16   10:43:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: aristeides, Jethro Tull (#163)

Back in the 1960's, it was notorious that a high percentage of the members of the American Communist Party were FBI informants. In fact, some of the most vociferous of them were FBI agents provocateurs.

I think it's even worse today. I think every "group" who is anti-CORRUPT government in any way at all, or groups who dare to assert their rights, are totally infiltrated.

christine  posted on  2005-04-16   10:54:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: OKCSubmariner (#159)

He also said, "We work very closely with the CIA, FBI, ATF."

This new information when coupled with the fact that the federal governments alphabet soup organizations seem to be intertwined with subversive movements such as the Southern Poverty Law Center, the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai Brith and the Jewish Defense League to the extent that U.S law enforcement agencies have in the past farmed out intelligence operations to these said anti- freedom groups we can begin to understand the ineffectiveness of the investigations surrounding one of the most horrific terrorist attacks to take place on American soil.

oh thats nice.. farming out intelligence operations .. like these people are unbiased?

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-16   10:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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