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Title: FBI Agent Posed as White Supremicist for 14 Years (Tied to OKC Bombing)
Source: Associated Press via APFN
URL Source: http://disc.server.com/discussion.c ... 49495;article=80973;title=APFN
Published: Jun 5, 1999
Author: Wendy Nakamura
Post Date: 2005-04-15 00:35:41 by OKCSubmariner
Keywords: Supremicist, Bombing), Agent
Views: 3592
Comments: 207

FBI Agent Penetrated Into The Heart of Darkness

WASHINGTON DC (AP) - For almost fourteen years, he lived in a world of hatred, bigotry, and violence.

He attended Klan rallies and meetings of buttoned-down intellectual racists in business suits in the most upmarket hotels. He met and hosted Holocaust deniers like German- Canadian Ernst Zundel and British author David Irving. He was there at cross-burnings and street marches, waving a picket sign or a Confederate battle flag and always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups, making contacts with neo-Nazis and nationalist extremists the world over. He infiltrated the inner councils of almost every top hate group in the United States and even in Europe. He even filed a libel suit against another White supremacist who claimed he was an FBI informant.

But he was.

Last month FBI Special Agent James R. Finchley, a decorated Vietnam veteran and "one of the best and bravest men ever to graduate out of Quantico" according to a former instructor at the world-famous FBI academy who knew him and trained him, came in from the cold at last, after successfully carrying out the longest-running deep-cover infiltration of any criminal or terrorist underworld in the history of American law enforcement.

Finchley's fourteen years in the White racist underground produced only a handful of actual prosecutions, but "that wasn't his primary mission," according to the former director of the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit at Quantico, Kenneth M. Lanning. "He was there to listen and learn, and the wealth of information he obtained for us is beyond price."

"It is not too much to say that we now know virtually everything there is to know about organized race hatred in this country. These guys [White supremacist activists and leaders] couldn't go to the can without us knowing about it," Lanning said.

FBI Director Louis Freeh was not available for comment, but U. S. Attorney General Janet Reno told a reporter, "We usually do not make any public statement on covert operations of this nature until all criminal cases associated with an investigation have been brought to a conclusion, but I will say that Special Agent Finchley displayed uncommon courage, resourcefulness, and initiative in a very complex and often dangerous situation."

Finchley's cover was so deep he is reported to have actually married one woman who was involved in a White supremacist group he wanted to penetrate. On that occasion he went to St. Petersburg, Russia to meet and bring to America a Russian woman who was to be the "mail order bride" of a nationally known White supremacist leader who was banned from entering the country because of his views.

Finchley was so taken with the woman that he persuaded her to marry him instead, allegedly in order to keep her out of the clutches of the racist leader. Soon afterwards he and his Russian wife amicably divorced and Agent Finchley arranged for her to get a green card and relocate to Florida.

Justice Department sources are close-mouthed about many of the details of Finchley's fourteen-year odyssey into the murky underworld of racism and hate. "There are still some loose ends to be tied up, and once this gets out there are going to be some very angry White supremacists out there," said a spokesman for the Department. The source refused to say whether Agent Finchley had been moved into the Witness Protection Program or what measures were being taken to prevent retaliation by Finchley's former comrades in the racist movement.

Possibly the most bizarre event of Finchley's long- running undercover operation was when he was accused of having been involved in the Oklahoma City bombing as "John Doe Number Two" by the editor of a racist newsletter who had long suspected Finchley of being a Federal agent. Finchley took an absolutely unprecedented step: he sued the editor for libel and obtained a 110,000 default judgment when the defendant didn't show up in court to try the case.

"I don't know if he's been successful in collecting any of the money the judge awarded him," said Lanning.

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#5. To: OKCSubmariner, All (#0)

He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups,

What a surprise, a gov agent posting on forums.....LOL

Any ideas as to where he posted and what his name was?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-04-15   1:29:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Flintlock, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Christine, tom007, Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist, lodwick, Brian S, swarthyguy, Uncle Bill, aristeides, itisa1mosttoolate, robin, Diana, Red Jones, honway, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, wakeup, fatidic, Zipporah, CWRWinger, Sparker (#5)

Any ideas as to where he posted and what his name was?

Don't know, but..

Want to bet we have them on LP and FreeRepublic?

Anyone remember ole "_Jim" at FR who came to LP for a while?

This scheme is so sick it makes me wonder if Jeff Gannon really is an FBI agent who "became" a real male prostitute to "investigate" and "entrap" politicians the FBI wanted to "turn"(sarcasm/ON)??

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-15   1:45:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: OKCSubmariner (#6)

Want to bet we have them on LP and FreeRepublic?

Anyone remember ole "_Jim" at FR who came to LP for a while?

I don't even look at LP any more. Last time I did I picked out about 8 or 10 comments at random and only 2 or 3 were not mud slinging.

Does it really matter if there are feds posting there?

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-04-15   2:27:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Neil McIver, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, continental op, Christine, tom007, Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist, lodwick, Brian S, swarthyguy, Uncle Bill, aristeides, itisa1mosttoolate, robin, Diana, Red Jones, honway, MUDDOG, wakeup, fatidic, Zipporah, CWRWinger, Sparker (#8)

Neil McIver:

Does it really matter if there are feds posting there?

Damn right it can and does matter. Here's why:

..(he was).. always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups,...

I wonder what would have happened when and if Gold-Lox, you or Jim Rob had banned Finchley or other Feds like him on message boards and newsgroups like LP or FR when they started shouting and spreading rascist hatred against other posters like me who were crtical of the FBI handling of OKC, 1993 WTC, 9-11 etc?

You may have forgotten Neil, but the posters from Consolidated Freeping who posted on FR and LP concocted a fake post to plant on FR and on LP to try to make it look like I was associated with the White Supremicists. honway caught them at it and posted the the proof. Also honway and I detected that the fake posts were assocaited with reporter Jayna Davis and appararently Feds who got a green light back in 2002 after new legislation was passed to allow the Feds to do things (DISRUPT and intentinonaly try to PROVOKE and ENTRAP) on newsgroups previously not allowed by law.

If the Feds call dirty names, disrupt posts, smear posters and make up and plant false posts against honest posters they do not like, and then the poster gets provoked and defends himself even within the rules, the honest poster gets banned (or gets a time out) and his information from reliable news sources gets lost in the disruption. What if the honest poster gets unfairly provoked, smeared and falsely discredited by these dishonest Fed posters so not enough people pay attention to his posts or valid news articles he posts? What happens is they attack and provoke the messenger and disrupt so that not enough of the truth gets through to enough people-especially newcommers.

This has happened to me and malador and others I know of on LP and especially at FR. Maximum Consumption and sinkspur have taken a pro Fed, FBI line, about stories proving wrongdoing by some in the FBI on LP yet have gotten away with ever imaginable disruption tactic and filthy attacks against me and my wife and others and yet they were still allowed to post on LP and FR for a long time.

Fed tax dolars are being used to pay for these dirty tactics and schemes on newsgroups like LP and FR just as surely as it has been proven that Bush ordered many US gov agencies to create and distribute propaganda about his proposals to TV and print media as if they were independent and legitimate when they were not. The Fed bureaucrats under the world government socailsits Bush and Clinton have run AMOK and have no respect for what the Constitution and Bill of Rights say about individual human and civil rights .

Check with honway. I am sure Uncle Bill and Fred Mertz will also recall all of this.

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-15   13:49:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#202. To: OKCSubmariner, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, continental op, Christine, tom007, Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist, lodwick, Brian S, swarthyguy, Uncle Bill, aristeides, itisa1mosttoolate, robin, Diana, Red Jones, honway, MUDDOG, wakeup, fatidic, Zipporah, CWRWinger (#61)

NM:Does it really matter if there are feds posting there [LP]?

Damn right it can and does matter. Here's why:

..(he was).. always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups,...

I wonder what would have happened when and if Gold-Lox, you or Jim Rob had banned Finchley or other Feds like him on message boards and newsgroups like LP or FR when they started shouting and spreading rascist hatred against other posters like me who were crtical of the FBI handling of OKC, 1993 WTC, 9-11 etc?

You may have forgotten Neil, but the posters from Consolidated Freeping who posted on FR and LP concocted a fake post to plant on FR and on LP to try to make it look like I was associated with the White Supremicists. honway caught them at it and posted the the proof. Also honway and I detected that the fake posts were assocaited with reporter Jayna Davis and appararently Feds who got a green light back in 2002 after new legislation was passed to allow the Feds to do things (DISRUPT and intentinonaly try to PROVOKE and ENTRAP) on newsgroups previously not allowed by law.

I think it surprising and eye opening to see the lengths the feds went to in sending someone undercover for 10 years. That this guy was paid federal tax dollars to, among other things stand out in a street and hurl racial remarks and promote racism says an aweful lot. Certainly it can be said that his undercover efforts promoted the very matter the feds found cause to investigate for prosecution (entrapment for anyone who joined the movement due to his efforts).

As an aside, I suppose the only thing that might have smoked him out was if the persons/organizations he was sent to demanded he notory sign a non-disclosure agreement and promise he was not on the fed payroll under civil and purjury penalty. In doing so, any testimony he might offer would place him in criminal and/or civil violations. Of course the feds might then just pass a law allowing fed agents to not be liable for signing such things to maintain cover.

But there is one important difference between a fed agent joining an organization and one posting to an internet forum: No agent can testify that any specific person posted particular content to the site. Even those of us who use our real names, if we got into a courtroom and an agent was asked to point to the guy posting under my screen name would not be able to do it, even if he knows what I look like. He would have to witness me actually typing this note up in this room I'm in right now. I think forums are useless for prosecution purposes.

The only real purpose for fed agents to post on these forums is to cause damage, and at that point they are spending tax money to campaign an idea. IOW, engaging in propaganda. That is what you're claiming, and it wouldn't be the first time, as Fed funds have been openly used to campaign against state ballot initiatives that would decriminalize marijuana, which is purely a political matter.

LP seems to have become pretty much a mudslinging site. The more it is, the less I'd expect any outside interests to care about it, including the feds.

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-04-19   3:01:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#204. To: Neil McIver (#202)

I think forums are useless for prosecution purposes.

There was however a guy on FR (I don't remember his screen name) who got visited by federal cops for posting supposed threats against Clinton when he was president.

MUDDOG  posted on  2005-04-19   9:49:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#205. To: MUDDOG (#204)

That would be gonzo.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2005-04-19   9:55:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#206. To: Fred Mertz (#205)

Right you are. It was a big deal back then.

MUDDOG  posted on  2005-04-19 10:03:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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