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Title: FBI Agent Posed as White Supremicist for 14 Years (Tied to OKC Bombing)
Source: Associated Press via APFN
URL Source: http://disc.server.com/discussion.c ... 49495;article=80973;title=APFN
Published: Jun 5, 1999
Author: Wendy Nakamura
Post Date: 2005-04-15 00:35:41 by OKCSubmariner
Keywords: Supremicist, Bombing), Agent
Views: 1818
Comments: 207

FBI Agent Penetrated Into The Heart of Darkness

WASHINGTON DC (AP) - For almost fourteen years, he lived in a world of hatred, bigotry, and violence.

He attended Klan rallies and meetings of buttoned-down intellectual racists in business suits in the most upmarket hotels. He met and hosted Holocaust deniers like German- Canadian Ernst Zundel and British author David Irving. He was there at cross-burnings and street marches, waving a picket sign or a Confederate battle flag and always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups, making contacts with neo-Nazis and nationalist extremists the world over. He infiltrated the inner councils of almost every top hate group in the United States and even in Europe. He even filed a libel suit against another White supremacist who claimed he was an FBI informant.

But he was.

Last month FBI Special Agent James R. Finchley, a decorated Vietnam veteran and "one of the best and bravest men ever to graduate out of Quantico" according to a former instructor at the world-famous FBI academy who knew him and trained him, came in from the cold at last, after successfully carrying out the longest-running deep-cover infiltration of any criminal or terrorist underworld in the history of American law enforcement.

Finchley's fourteen years in the White racist underground produced only a handful of actual prosecutions, but "that wasn't his primary mission," according to the former director of the FBI's Behavioral Science Unit at Quantico, Kenneth M. Lanning. "He was there to listen and learn, and the wealth of information he obtained for us is beyond price."

"It is not too much to say that we now know virtually everything there is to know about organized race hatred in this country. These guys [White supremacist activists and leaders] couldn't go to the can without us knowing about it," Lanning said.

FBI Director Louis Freeh was not available for comment, but U. S. Attorney General Janet Reno told a reporter, "We usually do not make any public statement on covert operations of this nature until all criminal cases associated with an investigation have been brought to a conclusion, but I will say that Special Agent Finchley displayed uncommon courage, resourcefulness, and initiative in a very complex and often dangerous situation."

Finchley's cover was so deep he is reported to have actually married one woman who was involved in a White supremacist group he wanted to penetrate. On that occasion he went to St. Petersburg, Russia to meet and bring to America a Russian woman who was to be the "mail order bride" of a nationally known White supremacist leader who was banned from entering the country because of his views.

Finchley was so taken with the woman that he persuaded her to marry him instead, allegedly in order to keep her out of the clutches of the racist leader. Soon afterwards he and his Russian wife amicably divorced and Agent Finchley arranged for her to get a green card and relocate to Florida.

Justice Department sources are close-mouthed about many of the details of Finchley's fourteen-year odyssey into the murky underworld of racism and hate. "There are still some loose ends to be tied up, and once this gets out there are going to be some very angry White supremacists out there," said a spokesman for the Department. The source refused to say whether Agent Finchley had been moved into the Witness Protection Program or what measures were being taken to prevent retaliation by Finchley's former comrades in the racist movement.

Possibly the most bizarre event of Finchley's long- running undercover operation was when he was accused of having been involved in the Oklahoma City bombing as "John Doe Number Two" by the editor of a racist newsletter who had long suspected Finchley of being a Federal agent. Finchley took an absolutely unprecedented step: he sued the editor for libel and obtained a 110,000 default judgment when the defendant didn't show up in court to try the case.

"I don't know if he's been successful in collecting any of the money the judge awarded him," said Lanning.

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#5. To: OKCSubmariner, All (#0)

He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups,

What a surprise, a gov agent posting on forums.....LOL

Any ideas as to where he posted and what his name was?

Flintlock  posted on  2005-04-15   1:29:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Flintlock, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, Christine, tom007, Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist, lodwick, Brian S, swarthyguy, Uncle Bill, aristeides, itisa1mosttoolate, robin, Diana, Red Jones, honway, MUDDOG, Neil McIver, wakeup, fatidic, Zipporah, CWRWinger, Sparker (#5)

Any ideas as to where he posted and what his name was?

Don't know, but..

Want to bet we have them on LP and FreeRepublic?

Anyone remember ole "_Jim" at FR who came to LP for a while?

This scheme is so sick it makes me wonder if Jeff Gannon really is an FBI agent who "became" a real male prostitute to "investigate" and "entrap" politicians the FBI wanted to "turn"(sarcasm/ON)??

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-15   1:45:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: OKCSubmariner (#6)

Want to bet we have them on LP and FreeRepublic?

Anyone remember ole "_Jim" at FR who came to LP for a while?

I don't even look at LP any more. Last time I did I picked out about 8 or 10 comments at random and only 2 or 3 were not mud slinging.

Does it really matter if there are feds posting there?

Neil McIver  posted on  2005-04-15   2:27:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Neil McIver, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, continental op, Christine, tom007, Fred Mertz, TommyTheMadArtist, lodwick, Brian S, swarthyguy, Uncle Bill, aristeides, itisa1mosttoolate, robin, Diana, Red Jones, honway, MUDDOG, wakeup, fatidic, Zipporah, CWRWinger, Sparker (#8)

Neil McIver:

Does it really matter if there are feds posting there?

Damn right it can and does matter. Here's why:

..(he was).. always shouting the loudest of any among his White supremacist cohorts. He drank beer with Skinhead gangs, swapped jokes with them about African-Americans, Hispanics, and Jews, and heard them plot hate crimes and racial assaults. He cruised the Internet, posting racist messages to computer bulletin boards and newsgroups,...

I wonder what would have happened when and if Gold-Lox, you or Jim Rob had banned Finchley or other Feds like him on message boards and newsgroups like LP or FR when they started shouting and spreading rascist hatred against other posters like me who were crtical of the FBI handling of OKC, 1993 WTC, 9-11 etc?

You may have forgotten Neil, but the posters from Consolidated Freeping who posted on FR and LP concocted a fake post to plant on FR and on LP to try to make it look like I was associated with the White Supremicists. honway caught them at it and posted the the proof. Also honway and I detected that the fake posts were assocaited with reporter Jayna Davis and appararently Feds who got a green light back in 2002 after new legislation was passed to allow the Feds to do things (DISRUPT and intentinonaly try to PROVOKE and ENTRAP) on newsgroups previously not allowed by law.

If the Feds call dirty names, disrupt posts, smear posters and make up and plant false posts against honest posters they do not like, and then the poster gets provoked and defends himself even within the rules, the honest poster gets banned (or gets a time out) and his information from reliable news sources gets lost in the disruption. What if the honest poster gets unfairly provoked, smeared and falsely discredited by these dishonest Fed posters so not enough people pay attention to his posts or valid news articles he posts? What happens is they attack and provoke the messenger and disrupt so that not enough of the truth gets through to enough people-especially newcommers.

This has happened to me and malador and others I know of on LP and especially at FR. Maximum Consumption and sinkspur have taken a pro Fed, FBI line, about stories proving wrongdoing by some in the FBI on LP yet have gotten away with ever imaginable disruption tactic and filthy attacks against me and my wife and others and yet they were still allowed to post on LP and FR for a long time.

Fed tax dolars are being used to pay for these dirty tactics and schemes on newsgroups like LP and FR just as surely as it has been proven that Bush ordered many US gov agencies to create and distribute propaganda about his proposals to TV and print media as if they were independent and legitimate when they were not. The Fed bureaucrats under the world government socailsits Bush and Clinton have run AMOK and have no respect for what the Constitution and Bill of Rights say about individual human and civil rights .

Check with honway. I am sure Uncle Bill and Fred Mertz will also recall all of this.

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-15   13:49:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: OKCSubmariner (#61)

If the Feds call dirty names, disrupt posts, smear posters and make up and plant false posts against honest posters they do not like, and then the poster gets provoked and defends himself even within the rules, the honest poster gets banned (or gets a time out) and his information from reliable news sources gets lost in the disruption. What if the honest poster gets unfairly provoked, smeared and falsely discredited by these dishonest Fed posters so not enough people pay attention to his posts or valid news articles he posts? What happens is they attack and provoke the messenger and disrupt so that not enough of the truth gets through to enough people-especially newcommers.

ed tax dolars are being used to pay for these dirty tactics and schemes on newsgroups like LP and FR just as surely as it has been proven that Bush ordered many US gov agencies to create and distribute propaganda about his proposals to TV and print media as if they were independent and legitimate when they were not.

I wasnt aware that had happened re you on LP.. But I totally agreed w/you .. they use OUR money to post disinformation not only about issues but about individuals.. disgusting. They use the same type verbage .. the same BS ..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-15   14:05:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Zipporah (#63)

I wasnt aware that had happened re you on LP.. But I totally agreed w/you .. they use OUR money to post disinformation not only about issues but about individuals.. disgusting. They use the same type verbage .. the same BS .

LOL...you think the gov't. worries about the likes of Conspira-Kooks like him?

Trust me on this, having been around the "patriot movement" for going on 20 years most of us don't even take a LOT of the self-proclaimed conspiracy experts seriously, in fact some of them are more than seriously mental in my experience.

They'll throw every ridiculous theory in the book at their pet subjects, hoping something will stick & give them validity, while the REAL truth gets buried in the shitstorm.

Sometimes I wonder if THEY aren't the REAL mis-information agent provocateurs...

TaZ  posted on  2005-04-15   14:19:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: TaZ (#69)

LOL...you think the gov't. worries about the likes of Conspira-Kooks like him?

Trust me on this, having been around the "patriot movement" for going on 20 years most of us don't even take a LOT of the self-proclaimed conspiracy experts seriously, in fact some of them are more than seriously mental in my experience.

They'll throw every ridiculous theory in the book at their pet subjects, hoping something will stick & give them validity, while the REAL truth gets buried in the shitstorm.

Sometimes I wonder if THEY aren't the REAL mis-information agent provocateurs...

Yeah they care or they wouldn't be spending OUR tax $$s to discredit them..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-04-15   14:32:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Zipporah (#70)

Yeah they care or they wouldn't be spending OUR tax $$s to discredit them..

Why should they care about BBS boards when they have the Mass Media completely under there thumb?

The person in question here not only has accused me of being a Fed, but also Jayna Davis for cryin-out-loud! LOL

And now he claims John Trochtman was collaberating with the FBI! Having spoke with the man several times I can tell you THAT is most certainly a LIE from the pit of HELL...

If someone really wanted to defeat the elite and their minions, "patriots" they wouldn't be re-hashing something that is a dead horse over & over again (OKC, Flight 800 etc.) they'd be working towards unifying the "patriot" community towards becoming REAL force to be dealt with on a national level, but no...let's stay focused on peripheral subjects digging out details that a LOT of us in the "patriot" movement knew a couple of months after the incident at the Murrah Building.

Yelling at the symptoms all day & night long isn't gonna solve anything...

TaZ  posted on  2005-04-15   14:52:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: TaZ, Zipporah, Dakmar, Fred Mertz, honway, Uncle Bill, itisa1mosttoolate, Sparker, robin, Christine, Neil McIver, Flintlock, continental op, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, CWRWinger, Red Jones, lodwick (#76)

TAZ:

The person in question here not only has accused me of being a Fed, but also Jayna Davis for cryin-out-loud! LOL

And now he claims John Trochtman was collaberating with the FBI! Having spoke with the man several times I can tell you THAT is most certainly a LIE from the pit of HELL...

When have I written that you are/were a Fed, Taz?

What I wrote about Trochtman is absolutely factual and I stand by it-I know about it first hand.

You should ask ole John about his testimony before Specter right after the OKC bombing You should ask ole Trochtman about his peddling "The Art of War" to try and suck in people to "take on the FBI" while Troctman sets up a meeting with FBI agent Vogel and Rickles and the head of the OKC militia in June 1996 in Tulsa OK. That meeting setup IS ABSOLUTE FACT.

In the case of Jayna Davis, I did not say she was a Fed, I wrote that she was connected to the consolidated Freeping posters that honway caught. honway posted his proof on LP several times. Take the Davis and Freeping issue up with honway if you doubt what he found.

You wildly misstate Taz what I and others write-is that intentional disinforamtion or just ignorance on your part?.

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-15   15:21:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: OKCSubmariner (#83)

You wildly misstate Taz what I and others write-is that intentional disinforamtion or just ignorance on your part?

On an LP thread I once told you about my background (work with Dr. Eugene Schroder) and my present status as In-House Press in a Federal Court...your response was to ping your list and warn them to the effect that I was probably an agent provocateur or possibly a FED.

Do you remember that?

I also remember the whole Jayna Davis incident on FR, I was on your ping list at than time, and perhaps you didn't come right-out and say she was a FED, but you certainly intimidated it...

And just in case you didn't know, Trochtman didn't have any choice in his meetings with the FEDS...if he didn't show-up to meet with them they would have come & GOT him ;-)

TaZ  posted on  2005-04-15   15:28:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#86. To: TaZ, Zipporah, Dakmar, Fred Mertz, honway, Uncle Bill, itisa1mosttoolate, Sparker, robin, Christine, Neil McIver, Flintlock, continental op, h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t, CWRWinger, Red Jones, lodwick, Zipporah (#84)

TAZ: "On an LP thread I once told you about my background (work with Dr. Eugene Schroder) and my present status as In-House Press in a Federal Court...your response was to ping your list and warn them to the effect that I was probably an agent provocateur or possibly a FED.

Do you remember that? "

OKCS:

No I do not remember it. Do you have me confused with someone else? Did you save the postings so you can double check?

TAZ:

"I also remember the whole Jayna Davis incident on FR, I was on your ping list at than time, and perhaps you didn't come right-out and say she was a FED, but you certainly intimidated it..."

OKCS:

Your memory is defective on this. Why don't you contact honway about Davis and Consolidated Freeping as I have suggested to you? Hmm? But at least now you admit that I did not say Davis was a Fed when you wrongly said so in your earlier reply :

TAZ: "The person in question here not only has accused me of being a Fed, but also Jayna Davis for cryin-out-loud! LOL"

OKCS:

Your excuse for Trochman is very lame and weak especially from someone who just said this in your reply #76 : "...I can tell you THAT is most certainly a LIE from the pit of HELL... "

This is your lame excuse for Trochtman:

TAZ:

"And just in case you didn't know, Trochtman didn't have any choice in his meetings with the FEDS...if he didn't show-up to meet with them they would have come & GOT him ;-) "

OKCS:

That does not justify Trochman trying to entrap others in his meetings with the FBI and he absolutley did. Are you next going to try and claim that Trochtman also had to entrap others because the FBI made him do it?? It seems to me that you just admitted that Trochtman was attending meetings with the FBI. Good grief. You have further strentghened my case about Trochtman!

OKCSubmariner  posted on  2005-04-15 15:47:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: TaZ (#84)

my present status as In-House Press in a Federal Court...

I've been around federal courts a bit, but I don't recall hearing about this. What exactly is "In-House Press in a Federal Court"? Are you saying you are media relations person for a federal court?

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-04-15 23:28:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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