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Title: I have a question for the forum
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Published: Oct 2, 2006
Author: richard9151
Post Date: 2006-10-02 11:15:18 by richard9151
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A few of you have read More Blonde Jokes II, and perhaps are beginning to see a little of where I am coming from. Fewer of you have read the posts, Who Controls the United States and Who Controls the United States Part 2.

The next post that I put up will be, as I promised in More Blonde Jokes II, The Bar. This next post is, to me at any rate, an important post, and I need, if possible, a little feed back so I can finish tweaking the post. So, if you feel so inclined, please answer a couple of questions for me. (By all means, if you would rather answer in private, that is not a problem!)

1. Were you aware of any of the material contained in More Blonde Jokes II?

2. Specifically, were you aware of the Federal District States?

3. Were you aware of this?

The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

4. Were you aware of this?

... our national government of the United States legislates for two distinct territorial jurisdictions.

5. Were you aware that George Washington signed the first ever Excutive Order, and what was contained in that Order?

6. Are you interested in learning about a solution to this problem?

7. I am going to establish a group within the forum. To this group I will ping when I post updates or new Posts that have to do with this subject; The Solution. Are you interested in my placing your name to be pinged? Without a yes answer to this question, I will not add your name to the list. I also reserve the right to not add your name to the list if I feel that is in the best interest of the group, and of 4um.

A simple yes of no to the questions is fine. Thank you all, Richard

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I had a general idea about this, but would welcome more detailed information.

I thought that Lincoln was the first to use Executive Orders, under the War Powers Act, which I understand to still be in effect - and that we are the enemy.

Thanks for your Blonde efforts.

Lod  posted on  2006-10-02   11:39:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

lodwick, I am sending this to a few people, not intended for you, but just for information;

Let me clear a couple of misconceptions;

First, let us listen to Mr. Justice Harlan of the Supreme Court;

The idea prevails with some -- indeed, it found expression in arguments at the bar -- that we have in this country substantially or practically two national governments; one, to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to exercise.

[Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)]

To appreciate how alarmed Justice Harlan had become as a result of this new "theory", consider the following from his dissent:

I take leave to say that if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will be the result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism. ...

It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside of the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the Constitution.

[Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)]

The two most important parts of this are the date, 1901, and understanding that this comment came from the dissent; he was complaining because this is exactly what this case decided, that there were TWO national governments, not one.

But wait, we have not finished the story because we have yet to explain WHY the Constitution does not apply to the Federal District States!

United States v. Cornell 25 Fed. Cas. 646, no. 14,867 C.C.D.R.I. 1819 … It is under the like terms in the same clause of the constitution that exclusive jurisdiction is now exercised by congress in the District of Columbia …

In Downes v. Bidwell, 1901, the Supreme Court ruled that "exclusive" meant exactly that; EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction, with no control from the Constitution. (In Downes v. Bidwell, the Court ruled that "exclusive" meant "without consideration of the Constitutional restraints...") See Justice Harlan´s comments above.

Because the Constitution was specifically written to permit Congress to have Exclusive Jurisdiction over the Federal Zone, and it is obvious, with the actions of George Washington in creating the Federal District States and thus extending the Federal Zone over the top of the several states of the Union that the so-called Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing.

How do we know this? There is a saying that there are no accidents in politics. That makes sense when you think about it, because if what was done was in error, it was corrected. This situation with Exclusive Jurisdiction was not an error, because it has been in place and causing havoc in America since 1791; that is 215 years! I would judge that, indeed, it was no accident.

Now, there are two national governments; that means that there are two Constitutions.

Go here; http://www.theawaregroup.co m/original13th.htm

This was going to be a post, but I am sure not going to waste my time with that!

Now, I understand that it is interesting to listen to people like Mr. BTP talk about how the problem started in 1933 with some slight of hand by the Supreme Court, but do you think he knows more than Justice Harland did in 1901? Or, how about those who talk about the bankruptcy in 1929, or the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, or, the Civil War, or something-or-other in 1975…. And on and on and on and on. They all have ideas, but no one goes to the root of the problem.

And by the way, Mr. BTP is correct about the Law Merchant, which is the merchant law of Babylon transferred through Rome to here. But does that mean that is the root of the problem? Not hardly.

And I know that it is difficult to stop passing notes with the rest of the children in 4um, but sooner or later you have to grow up…. Or not, of course.

If you wish to just begin to understand, I suggest you start with More Blonde jokes II, and you might want to read Who Controls the United States, Part 2.

And by the way, here is what the Constitutional Amendment would do;

It would apply the Constitution to the Exclusive Jurisdiction of Congress, thereby eliminating, in one stroke;

FBI

IRS

Federal Reserve Bank

Federal Codes

And etc. etc. etc. But hey, what do I know.

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