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Title: I have a question for the forum
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Published: Oct 2, 2006
Author: richard9151
Post Date: 2006-10-02 11:15:18 by richard9151
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Views: 1869
Comments: 128

A few of you have read More Blonde Jokes II, and perhaps are beginning to see a little of where I am coming from. Fewer of you have read the posts, Who Controls the United States and Who Controls the United States Part 2.

The next post that I put up will be, as I promised in More Blonde Jokes II, The Bar. This next post is, to me at any rate, an important post, and I need, if possible, a little feed back so I can finish tweaking the post. So, if you feel so inclined, please answer a couple of questions for me. (By all means, if you would rather answer in private, that is not a problem!)

1. Were you aware of any of the material contained in More Blonde Jokes II?

2. Specifically, were you aware of the Federal District States?

3. Were you aware of this?

The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

4. Were you aware of this?

... our national government of the United States legislates for two distinct territorial jurisdictions.

5. Were you aware that George Washington signed the first ever Excutive Order, and what was contained in that Order?

6. Are you interested in learning about a solution to this problem?

7. I am going to establish a group within the forum. To this group I will ping when I post updates or new Posts that have to do with this subject; The Solution. Are you interested in my placing your name to be pinged? Without a yes answer to this question, I will not add your name to the list. I also reserve the right to not add your name to the list if I feel that is in the best interest of the group, and of 4um.

A simple yes of no to the questions is fine. Thank you all, Richard

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#18. To: richard9151 (#0)

The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

I'm not seeing that.

Here's 28 USC 297, as per http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/....html

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§ 297. Assignment of judges to courts of the freely associated compact states

(a) The Chief Justice or the chief judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit may assign any circuit or district judge of the Ninth Circuit, with the consent of the judge so assigned, to serve temporarily as a judge of any duly constituted court of the freely associated compact states whenever an official duly authorized by the laws of the respective compact state requests such assignment and such assignment is necessary for the proper dispatch of the business of the respective court.

(b) The Congress consents to the acceptance and retention by any judge so authorized of reimbursement from the countries referred to in subsection (a) of all necessary travel expenses, including transportation, and of subsistence, or of a reasonable per diem allowance in lieu of subsistence. The judge shall report to the Administrative Office of the United States Courts any amount received pursuant to this subsection.

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Here's 26 CFR §1.911-2(h). Source:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/....TEXT

    (h) Foreign country. The term ``foreign country'' when used in a 
geographical sense includes any territory under the sovereignty of a 
government other than that of the United States. It includes the 
territorial waters of the foreign country (determined in accordance with 
the laws of the United States), the air space over the foreign country, 
and the seabed and subsoil of those submarine areas which are adjacent 
to the territorial waters of the foreign country and over which the 
foreign country has exclusive rights, in accordance with international 
law, with respect to the exploration and exploitation of natural 
resources.

With this definition, yn order to say the 50 states are foreign countries, you also have to show that the law says that the 50 states are "under the sovereignty of a government other than that of the United States".

And here's 28 USC 1603, source:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/...html

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§ 1603. Definitions

For purposes of this chapter— (a) A “foreign state”, except as used in section 1608 of this title, includes a political subdivision of a foreign state or an agency or instrumentality of a foreign state as defined in subsection (b). (b) An “agency or instrumentality of a foreign state” means any entity— (1) which is a separate legal person, corporate or otherwise, and (2) which is an organ of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, or a majority of whose shares or other ownership interest is owned by a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, and (3) which is neither a citizen of a State of the United States as defined in section 1332 (c) and (d) of this title, nor created under the laws of any third country. (c) The “United States” includes all territory and waters, continental or insular, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. (d) A “commercial activity” means either a regular course of commercial conduct or a particular commercial transaction or act. The commercial character of an activity shall be determined by reference to the nature of the course of conduct or particular transaction or act, rather than by reference to its purpose. (e) A “commercial activity carried on in the United States by a foreign state” means commercial activity carried on by such state and having substantial contact with the United States.

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The last of these seems to come closest to what you say because "United States" is not defined to include the 50 states, BUT "foreign state" is not defined using the term "United States" at all. In any event, these definitions only apply to chapter 97 of Title 28 (and not the entire US code, of course).

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   13:59:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Neil McIver (#18)

I'm not seeing that.

Ahhh, perhaps you are beginning to see something of the problem! I put the link in the original post, More Blonde Jokes II, and you can use that to research and find the connections. Sinply put, you can not read the code, code, i.e., secret communications, without referencing ALL federal court cases which apply to that section of the code.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   14:46:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: richard9151 (#25)

If I may suggest...

If you put your tag line in a reduced font size and/or different color, (preferably both) it would be more helpful to people reading your posts. I find myself starting to reread your tag line every time which is a bit annoying.

That suggestion should probably be on the setup page.

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   15:05:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#30)

That suggestion should probably be on the setup page.

Or you could hardcode a sig template into the setup. You're a talented fellow in that and other regards.

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   15:11:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: AngelSpawn (#33)

Or you could hardcode a sig template into the setup. You're a talented fellow in that and other regards.

Screw that, it forces everyone to conform. Neil was just making a suggestion for thew sake of readability. Sheesh!

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   19:40:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Dakmar, AngelSpawn (#53)

Screw that, it forces everyone to conform.

agree. we do stress individuality here. :P

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   20:08:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: christine (#67)

agree. we do stress individuality here. :P

Do we have to be individalistic? All the time?

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:23:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Dakmar (#72)

nope. we can do group too.

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   20:29:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine (#73)

Ok, but don't expect me to release secret Melvins tapes until I know you a little better, cool?

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:31:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Dakmar (#75)

secret Melvins tapes

Aren't 'melvins', 'wedgies' by another name?

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:36:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: jessejane (#78)

Aren't 'melvins', 'wedgies' by another name?

Not where I come from.

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:40:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Dakmar (#80)

Aren't 'melvins', 'wedgies' by another name? Not where I come from.

Okay... LOL!!!

Imagine... secret wedgie tapes.. It'd be a hit I'm sure. ;)

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:44:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: jessejane (#83)

Imagine... secret wedgie tapes.. It'd be a hit I'm sure. ;)

You know what an Atomic Wedgie is? You pull the underwear up over the head.

I used to give my nephew wedgies all the time. He had to go into the bathroom to rectify the situation.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-02   20:59:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: YertleTurtle (#87)

I used to give my nephew wedgies all the time.

Thank God I have a nice uncle.

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:03:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Dakmar (#89)

Thank God I have a nice uncle.

Actually I was a pretty good uncle. Once when the Wedgie Kid was about seven, I found him doing that sob/stutter thing they do. He told me some "big kid" stole his bike.

Fortunately, he knew where the kid was, so we drove down there and he watched me hurl this fat kid off of the bike. He bounced real good. ;-)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-02   21:07:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: YertleTurtle (#90)

Fortunately, he knew where the kid was, so we drove down there and he watched me hurl this fat kid off of the bike. He bounced real good. ;-)

So you are also a bully that likes beating up on smaller children and voting Democrat?

See how easy GOPC is? It's like stupid simple.

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:13:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#95. To: Dakmar (#93)

So you are also a bully that likes beating up on smaller children and voting Democrat?

Vote Democrat -- ugh. I'll vote for a third party if there is a good one.

The kid was a bully who stole my nephew's bike. He was about 12, and stealing a seven-year-old's bike. I suppose I could have called the police and maybe had him arrested (if they would do that), but I thought, naw, I'll just give him a quick lesson on what happens to thieves. So I just grabbed him and tossed him off of the bike.

All the other kids who saw this were very quiet. My nephew was astonished, and has never forgotten it.

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