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Title: I have a question for the forum
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Published: Oct 2, 2006
Author: richard9151
Post Date: 2006-10-02 11:15:18 by richard9151
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Views: 1464
Comments: 128

A few of you have read More Blonde Jokes II, and perhaps are beginning to see a little of where I am coming from. Fewer of you have read the posts, Who Controls the United States and Who Controls the United States Part 2.

The next post that I put up will be, as I promised in More Blonde Jokes II, The Bar. This next post is, to me at any rate, an important post, and I need, if possible, a little feed back so I can finish tweaking the post. So, if you feel so inclined, please answer a couple of questions for me. (By all means, if you would rather answer in private, that is not a problem!)

1. Were you aware of any of the material contained in More Blonde Jokes II?

2. Specifically, were you aware of the Federal District States?

3. Were you aware of this?

The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

4. Were you aware of this?

... our national government of the United States legislates for two distinct territorial jurisdictions.

5. Were you aware that George Washington signed the first ever Excutive Order, and what was contained in that Order?

6. Are you interested in learning about a solution to this problem?

7. I am going to establish a group within the forum. To this group I will ping when I post updates or new Posts that have to do with this subject; The Solution. Are you interested in my placing your name to be pinged? Without a yes answer to this question, I will not add your name to the list. I also reserve the right to not add your name to the list if I feel that is in the best interest of the group, and of 4um.

A simple yes of no to the questions is fine. Thank you all, Richard

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#1. To: richard9151 (#0)

The Solution.

I'm all ears. uh, eyes.

angle  posted on  2006-10-02   11:27:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: richard9151 (#0)

I am going to establish a group within the forum.

Scary....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-02   11:29:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: richard9151 (#0)

A simple yes of no to the questions is fine.

what's a yes of no

angle  posted on  2006-10-02   11:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: angle (#1)

I'm all ears. uh, eyes.

That is not a yes reply, my friend, and I will not put your name on the list without a specific yes to that question. I am going to be very hard nosed about this, for obvious reasons.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   11:38:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: richard9151 (#0)

I had a general idea about this, but would welcome more detailed information.

I thought that Lincoln was the first to use Executive Orders, under the War Powers Act, which I understand to still be in effect - and that we are the enemy.

Thanks for your Blonde efforts.

Lod  posted on  2006-10-02   11:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: angle (#3)

what's a yes of no

It´s Monday.... don´t start on me!

YES OR NO!!!! Better?

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   11:40:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Scary....

It would be to you, Jethro, because it involves learning and not just whining.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   11:41:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: lodwick, christine, all (#5)

Thanks for your Blonde efforts.

lodwick..... sometimes I wonder about you....... Would Blonde efforts be associated with Blonde moments?

And you are correct; we are the enemy. However, please note this (from the post, More Blonde Jokes II);

... our national government of the United States legislates for two distinct territorial jurisdictions.

And; ... The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

This is what causes a lot of people problems with understanding; they do not understand, and many who learn never accept, that THEY LIVE IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY WITH RESPECT TO THE UNITED STATES. Yes, they are only RESIDENT within that foreign country, but... I am sure you understand that is only for purposes of jurisdiction and taxation. And remember, please, this is not my imagination, this is federal law.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   11:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: richard9151 (#0)

Sure, I'd love to see what you have to say.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-02   11:49:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: richard9151 (#0)

What's your beef, chief??

TITLE 28 > PART I > CHAPTER 13 > § 297 § 297. Assignment of judges to courts of the freely associated compact states

(a) The Chief Justice or the chief judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit may assign any circuit or district judge of the Ninth Circuit, with the consent of the judge so assigned, to serve temporarily as a judge of any duly constituted court of the freely associated compact states whenever an official duly authorized by the laws of the respective compact state requests such assignment and such assignment is necessary for the proper dispatch of the business of the respective court. (b) The Congress consents to the acceptance and retention by any judge so authorized of reimbursement from the countries referred to in subsection (a) of all necessary travel expenses, including transportation, and of subsistence, or of a reasonable per diem allowance in lieu of subsistence. The judge shall report to the Administrative Office of the United States Courts any amount received pursuant to this subsection.

TITLE 28 > PART IV > CHAPTER 97 > § 1603 § 1603. Definitions

For purposes of this chapter— (a) A “foreign state”, except as used in section 1608 of this title, includes a political subdivision of a foreign state or an agency or instrumentality of a foreign state as defined in subsection (b). (b) An “agency or instrumentality of a foreign state” means any entity— (1) which is a separate legal person, corporate or otherwise, and (2) which is an organ of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, or a majority of whose shares or other ownership interest is owned by a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, and (3) which is neither a citizen of a State of the United States as defined in section 1332 (c) and (d) of this title, nor created under the laws of any third country. (c) The “United States” includes all territory and waters, continental or insular, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. (d) A “commercial activity” means either a regular course of commercial conduct or a particular commercial transaction or act. The commercial character of an activity shall be determined by reference to the nature of the course of conduct or particular transaction or act, rather than by reference to its purpose. (e) A “commercial activity carried on in the United States by a foreign state” means commercial activity carried on by such state and having substantial contact with the United States.

TITLE 26 > Subtitle A > CHAPTER 1 > Subchapter N > PART III > Subpart B > § 911 § 911. Citizens or residents of the United States living abroad

(a) Exclusion from gross income At the election of a qualified individual (made separately with respect to paragraphs (1) and (2)), there shall be excluded from the gross income of such individual, and exempt from taxation under this subtitle, for any taxable year— (1) the foreign earned income of such individual, and (2) the housing cost amount of such individual. (b) Foreign earned income

(1) Definition For purposes of this section— (A) In general The term “foreign earned income” with respect to any individual means the amount received by such individual from sources within a foreign country or countries which constitute earned income attributable to services performed by such individual during the period described in subparagraph (A) or (B) of subsection (d)(1), whichever is applicable. (B) Certain amounts not included in foreign earned income The foreign earned income for an individual shall not include amounts— (i) received as a pension or annuity, (ii) paid by the United States or an agency thereof to an employee of the United States or an agency thereof, (iii) included in gross income by reason of section 402 (b) (relating to taxability of beneficiary of nonexempt trust) or section 403 (c) (relating to taxability of beneficiary under a nonqualified annuity), or (iv) received after the close of the taxable year following the taxable year in which the services to which the amounts are attributable are performed.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00000911-- --000-.html

randge  posted on  2006-10-02   12:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: richard9151 (#0)

I am going to be very hard nosed about this,

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-02   12:44:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: richard9151 (#0) (Edited)

I am going to establish a group within the forum.

Create the new PING list and give it an appropriate name in your "Setup" at the top of the page. You can add anyone who wants to be on the list or anyone can sign up any time.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-02   12:50:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: richard9151 (#0)

Were you aware of this?

A good portion of it. I had never heard that exact story about the creation of the federal Districts used for the federal court system jurisdiction.

“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-02   12:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: richard9151 (#0)

I have a question for the forum

It appears you have questions for the forum.

Were you aware of any of the material contained in More Blonde Jokes II?

No, I didn't read it.

Specifically, were you aware of the Federal District States?

No, what are they? D.C.?

The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

That makes sense. States should be seperate governments with seperate laws, as long as they go by the Constitution of the USA.

Were you aware of this? ... our national government of the United States legislates for two distinct territorial jurisdictions.

No.

Are you interested in learning about a solution to this problem?

What problem is that?

I am going to establish a group within the forum. To this group I will ping when I post updates or new Posts that have to do with this subject; The Solution. Are you interested in my placing your name to be pinged? Without a yes answer to this question, I will not add your name to the list. I also reserve the right to not add your name to the list if I feel that is in the best interest of the group, and of 4um.

Yeah, go ahead ping me.

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2006-10-02   13:04:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: richard9151 (#6)

yes

angle  posted on  2006-10-02   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: mehitable (#9)

That is not a yes or no, comrade.

angle  posted on  2006-10-02   13:23:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: randge (#10)

Will you please use the clift notes version please...

angle  posted on  2006-10-02   13:24:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: richard9151 (#0)

The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

I'm not seeing that.

Here's 28 USC 297, as per http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/....html

---

§ 297. Assignment of judges to courts of the freely associated compact states

(a) The Chief Justice or the chief judge of the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit may assign any circuit or district judge of the Ninth Circuit, with the consent of the judge so assigned, to serve temporarily as a judge of any duly constituted court of the freely associated compact states whenever an official duly authorized by the laws of the respective compact state requests such assignment and such assignment is necessary for the proper dispatch of the business of the respective court.

(b) The Congress consents to the acceptance and retention by any judge so authorized of reimbursement from the countries referred to in subsection (a) of all necessary travel expenses, including transportation, and of subsistence, or of a reasonable per diem allowance in lieu of subsistence. The judge shall report to the Administrative Office of the United States Courts any amount received pursuant to this subsection.

---

Here's 26 CFR §1.911-2(h). Source:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/....TEXT

    (h) Foreign country. The term ``foreign country'' when used in a 
geographical sense includes any territory under the sovereignty of a 
government other than that of the United States. It includes the 
territorial waters of the foreign country (determined in accordance with 
the laws of the United States), the air space over the foreign country, 
and the seabed and subsoil of those submarine areas which are adjacent 
to the territorial waters of the foreign country and over which the 
foreign country has exclusive rights, in accordance with international 
law, with respect to the exploration and exploitation of natural 
resources.

With this definition, yn order to say the 50 states are foreign countries, you also have to show that the law says that the 50 states are "under the sovereignty of a government other than that of the United States".

And here's 28 USC 1603, source:

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/...html

---

§ 1603. Definitions

For purposes of this chapter— (a) A “foreign state”, except as used in section 1608 of this title, includes a political subdivision of a foreign state or an agency or instrumentality of a foreign state as defined in subsection (b). (b) An “agency or instrumentality of a foreign state” means any entity— (1) which is a separate legal person, corporate or otherwise, and (2) which is an organ of a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, or a majority of whose shares or other ownership interest is owned by a foreign state or political subdivision thereof, and (3) which is neither a citizen of a State of the United States as defined in section 1332 (c) and (d) of this title, nor created under the laws of any third country. (c) The “United States” includes all territory and waters, continental or insular, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. (d) A “commercial activity” means either a regular course of commercial conduct or a particular commercial transaction or act. The commercial character of an activity shall be determined by reference to the nature of the course of conduct or particular transaction or act, rather than by reference to its purpose. (e) A “commercial activity carried on in the United States by a foreign state” means commercial activity carried on by such state and having substantial contact with the United States.

---

The last of these seems to come closest to what you say because "United States" is not defined to include the 50 states, BUT "foreign state" is not defined using the term "United States" at all. In any event, these definitions only apply to chapter 97 of Title 28 (and not the entire US code, of course).

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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   13:59:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: randge (#10)

Ya beat me to it.

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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   14:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Neil McIver (#19) (Edited)

I beat you to it without however supplying the most illuminating commentary.

Thanx.

randge  posted on  2006-10-02   14:32:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: BTP Holdings, all (#12)

Create the new PING list and give it an appropriate name in your "Setup"

allready done, as Solution.

Also my webpage under richard9151

The webpage has a statement of purpose and The Solution that I am aiming for.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   14:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#11)

Try me and see. Also, check out my web page and you will find the statement of purpose and The Solution.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   14:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: randge (#10)

What's your beef, chief??

My beef is what permits the Federal Zone to include an overlay of the 50 states, WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMED CONSENT OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS. And do not feed any B.S. about how they need to get informed. It takes years and years of study to begin to understand. If you do not understand what I mean, check out my webpage in 4um. Perhaps then you will begin to see.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   14:39:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Neil McIver, richard9151 (#18)

(c) The “United States” includes all territory and waters, continental or insular, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

This is one of the worst legal defintions I've ever seen.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   14:40:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Neil McIver (#18)

I'm not seeing that.

Ahhh, perhaps you are beginning to see something of the problem! I put the link in the original post, More Blonde Jokes II, and you can use that to research and find the connections. Sinply put, you can not read the code, code, i.e., secret communications, without referencing ALL federal court cases which apply to that section of the code.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   14:46:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: RickyJ (#14)

No, I didn't read it.

What problem is that?

You are in this forum, and you ask, what problem is that? Are we being serious here, or, something else?

You can check out my webpage on 4um and see what I consider to be the solution.

And I have added you to the list.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   14:49:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: AngelSpawn (#24)

This is one of the worst legal defintions I've ever seen.

That is because it is written in code (i.e., code, secret communications), in the code of the United States government.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   14:50:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: richard9151 (#27)

That is because it is written in code

It's loud and clear to me. 'We, the Law Owners, will arrogate everything to ourselves including the law.'

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   14:56:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: AngelSpawn (#28)

'We, the Law Owners, will arrogate everything to ourselves including the law.'

You catch on quick!.... Or, is it because you already understood? UMMMM?

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   15:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: richard9151 (#25)

If I may suggest...

If you put your tag line in a reduced font size and/or different color, (preferably both) it would be more helpful to people reading your posts. I find myself starting to reread your tag line every time which is a bit annoying.

That suggestion should probably be on the setup page.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   15:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Neil McIver (#30)

If I may suggest...

You may, and I will think about that. I understand what you mean; however, I put the tag line as I did for the specific reason that you mentioned, so that it would be read each time. Nothing works like repeating something constantly, and if you understand that, you are better able to resist mind games. Like mine. The difference is, I will admit why I do things; most never will.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   15:09:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: richard9151 (#29)

is it because you already understood?

I have no illusions about their desires.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   15:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Neil McIver, christine, Zipporah (#30)

That suggestion should probably be on the setup page.

Or you could hardcode a sig template into the setup. You're a talented fellow in that and other regards.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   15:11:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: richard9151 (#31)

Regarding your 'Solution'...have you sent this to Congressman Ron Paul's office?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-02   15:21:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: richard9151 (#31)

however, I put the tag line as I did for the specific reason that you mentioned, so that it would be read each time. Nothing works like repeating something constantly, and if you understand that, you are better able to resist mind games. Like mine.

Uh-huh.

Well, you'll be quite successful at annoying people to the point they put you on bozo, which I'll do if you insist in keeping your tagline as is. Your honesty about being a willing utilizer of brain-washing techniques will buy you no sympathy from me.

Hint: If you want to win sympathy and respect from people, don't do things that annoy them, and don't try to manipulate them. I think that's pretty good advice.

I'll put you on bozo this evening if it remains unchanged. The choice is, of course, yours.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   15:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: AngelSpawn (#24)

Circular definitions involving "United States" are not uncommon in the code.

It makes you really appreciate the value of having a non-generic name for a country, which we don't have here. "Canada" and "Mexico" have unique singular names, but the USA does not.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   15:46:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Neil McIver (#36)

Circular definitions involving "United States" are not uncommon in the code.

Circular defintions are by nature confusing or deceptive. I'm not a wacky Coincidence Theorist. ; )

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   15:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: richard9151 (#0)

DickeyBird,

If you're so ignorant as to assert that the U.S. Constitution was formed to give "democracy" to the District of Colombia (D.C.), why should anyone take anything you say seriously?

D.C. was 'run' by a Congressional group, until around 1975. That's a long damned way from your assertion.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-10-02   15:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38)

Shhhhhh....genius at work here.

Richard_666 is about to save America from the safety of his coconut tree in Mexico City.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-02   16:07:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: who knows what evil, all (#34)

Regarding your 'Solution'...have you sent this to Congressman Ron Paul's office?

Why? I appreciate Ron Paul, but what can a single man accomplish? What is needed is people..... people who understand what has been done, and how to undo it, and until that happens, nothing will change, and no matter who is sent to DC, nothing can change. A very good start would be no more attorneys, but even that is not sufficient without the average American having knowledge of what is needed.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   18:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull (#39)

Thank you, Jethro, for noticing. Don´t know what I/we could do without your incitful comments.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   18:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: SKYDRIFTER (#38)

Look, one-legged-man, why would anyone listen to you? All you have to offer is nonsense; you cut and paste nonsense from newspapers, I assume, or breaking news on the net, but have you ever bothered to open a legal dictionary? Or, study some case law? Until you do, if I were you, I would shut-up. Your ignorance is showing.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   18:12:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Neil McIver (#35)

Naturally. Consider my choice made.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   18:14:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: AngelSpawn, Neil McIver, all (#37)

Circular defintions are by nature confusing or deceptive.

But of course, and well said. It is important to note that Congress uses one dictionary to write law, but the attorneys use another, Blacks Law Dictionary, to find the secrets hidden in the code; the definitions in Blacks change constantly due to the attorneys finding new definitions for the words used in the code, but the original dictionary used by Congress NEVER changes.

It is also interesting to note that Blacks Law Dictionary has a list of the English Monarchies Regnal Years on the last page of the book. That is something REALLY REALLY important to me, ya know?

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   18:23:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: richard9151 (#44) (Edited)

I know that I'm going to regret this, but I would suggest that you put your argument (whatever it is, and I'm not at all sure what it is) into a few concise paragraphs.

I am sure that what it is that you want to say requires yards and yards of background and my is time precious to me. But consider contextualizing all of this a bit and provide us with some sort of thesis supported by a few cogent supporting points. Pretend that you are writing the forward or preface to the book that you would write on the subject.

Tell us what your beef is. You will encounter a lot less hostility on this forum.

randge  posted on  2006-10-02   18:50:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: randge, all (#45)

but I would suggest that you put your argument (whatever it is, and I'm not at all sure what it is) into a few concise paragraphs.

Here it is, directly from my homepage on 4um;

Investigating the Solutions to the problems facing America! I am simply tired of talking about it, and I would like everyone who is a member of 4um who is also tired of talking about the problems facing America, to help me to do something about it!

To that end, I would suggest that no one is capable of doing something about these problems unless they have a firm idea of what the problem(s) is! For that reason, I have posted More Blonde Jokes II. The purpose of this post is to act as an educational tool, and to begin to judge where everyone is in knowledge of the actual legal basis of America´s problems.

But, and this is an extremely important point, I also intend that this post, More Blonde Jokes II, in a different format if neccessary, be used as an educational tool throughout America. For that reason, when you read More Blonde Jokes II (for the third or fourth time possibly), remember, this is not opinion; it is based on federal law, actions taken by Presidents of the United States, and factual papers which exist. And after you read the post, judge for yourself how the average American will react when he learns that he lives in a foreign country in regards to the United States!

The sovereign 50 states of the Union of states. These states are foreign governments with respect to the United States. They are also referred to as "foreign countries" in 28 U.S.C. §297 and 26 CFR §1.911-2(h) and "foreign states" in 28 U.S.C. §1603.

Please, your feedback is needed and appreciated. Richard

First post to be read in the educational series; More Blonde Jokes II

The Solution to the problems in America can only be addressed with a Constitutional Amendment. Understand, this Constitutional Amendment MUST be done by and through the people, for it will never be done if left to the attorneys and other mindless servants of the beast.

Constitution of the United States

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17;

17. To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dock-yards, and other needful buildings: And,

The new Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 shall read;

17. To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such district (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, SUBJECT ONLY TO THE RESTRICTIONS OF THE CONSTITUTION, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dock-yards, and other needful buildings: And,

The words in all-in-capitals are the words to be added to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-02   18:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: randge (#45)

Nice try randge. It didn't take.

~~

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   19:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: richard9151, AngelSpawn, Neil McIver (#44) (Edited)

It is important to note that Congress uses one dictionary to write law,

Actually "Congress" is not a monolithic body that restricts itself to one particular source for the meaning of legal terms. They are lawyers themselves and doctors, businessmen, etc. Many terms are 'terms of art' that develop over time in society at large. Were there in fact a single source relied upon by Congress, there would not be so much effort expended by the courts archiving the minutes and notes of congressional deliberations to ascertain what Congress meant by any particular provision - "one dictionary to write law" (as you phrased it) used by Congress could be consulted, but alas, it does not exist.

but the attorneys use another, Blacks Law Dictionary, to find the secrets hidden in the code;

Actually there are many law dictionaries used by attorneys; e.g. Bouvier's is another widely referenced source, and then there are specialty dictionaries as well.

the definitions in Blacks change constantly due to the attorneys finding new definitions for the words used in the code, but the original dictionary used by Congress NEVER changes.

Black's changes (as do other dictionaries) when new terms of art come into use. For example, my 5th ed Black's (1979) does not have "Hedge Fund" defined, but the 7th ed (1999) does. Legal language evolves, legal dictionaires keep pace, no more, no less.

It is also interesting to note that Blacks Law Dictionary has a list of the English Monarchies Regnal Years on the last page of the book. That is something REALLY REALLY important to me, ya know?

If you were actually pursuing the derivation and basis for the meaning of some common law terms, many of which originate in English law, you'd have to pursue cites which reference British statutes, which cites identify the regnal year in which the source British statute was enacted. Obviously the US laws are not cited in this way and so a table of US presidents is not needed.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2006-10-02   19:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: richard9151 (#31)

the problem is, like Neil said, the tagline being the same size and color draws our attention away from the content of your individual posts. i don't think you want that, do you?

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   19:27:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: jessejane (#47)

I knew that I'd regret trying.

I fear we have our very own Newsie. Perhaps we should refrain from feeding him.

randge  posted on  2006-10-02   19:29:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: randge, richard9151 (#10)

This case discusses FSIA. Neither individual American citizens nor the various states are "foreign states". Filed assertions otherwise would most likely garner Rule 11 sanctions.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/01-593.ZS.html

SUPREME COURT OF THE UNITED STATES DOLE FOOD CO. et al. v. PATRICKSON et al. CERTIORARI TO THE UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE NINTH CIRCUIT

No. 01—593. Argued January 22, 2003–Decided April 22, 2003

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-02   19:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: randge (#45)

into a few concise paragraphs.

Churchill preached brevity and simplicity.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-02   19:38:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: AngelSpawn (#33)

Or you could hardcode a sig template into the setup. You're a talented fellow in that and other regards.

Screw that, it forces everyone to conform. Neil was just making a suggestion for thew sake of readability. Sheesh!

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   19:40:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: All (#51) (Edited)

This issue was further discussed at the Appromattox Court House, Virginia, on April 9, 1865.

[Well before enactment of FSIA, BTW.]

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-02   19:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom (#52)

Churchill preached brevity and simplicity.

Don't forget eugenics, Churchill was a proponent. Which brings me to richard_666.

For the good of the human gene pool, can something be done with him?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-02   19:44:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: wbales, range (#51)

This case discusses FSIA. Neither individual American citizens nor the various states are "foreign states". Filed assertions otherwise would most likely garner Rule 11 sanctions.

Thank you, I'm bored to tears by legal mumbo-jumbo and even I managed to trudge far enough through this to understand that certain claims were based on presenting bits and pieces of legal documents taken completely out of context.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   19:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

The phenotype has been realized. The die is cast . . .

randge  posted on  2006-10-02   19:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: randge (#56)

Whoops, looked up your name to make sure spelling was right and forgot to actually fix it.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   19:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Jethro Tull (#55)

Don't forget eugenics,

Sometime you might check John Foster Dulles, now he was a really into eugenics.

Something MSM never mentions. (Course he was a cuzin to the Rockyfellers)

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-02   19:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Dakmar (#56)

taken completely out of context

completely

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-02   19:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: randge (#50)

I knew that I'd regret trying.

I fear we have our very own Newsie. Perhaps we should refrain from feeding him.

I try to read it all.. But, speaking for myself, it's a lot to digest. I don't get half of what is being said without being instructed to read it again dammit. So.. I'm moving on. I gave several pieces attention. Very informative, and I appreciate the time taken to put it together.. But in return, the reader should be allowed time to digest it, think, and discuss. If that opportunity is not afforded.. fine.. see how many rally to the call.

Sorry if it's rather a blunt analysis. That's just the way I see it.

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   19:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: richard9151 (#23)

WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMED CONSENT OF THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS.

richard, therein lies the rub. while you are likely technically correct in what you've asserted (i believe you are as i've done some study on this), the fact of the matter is most americans would never understand it nor care. and until and unless there are a critical number who do care enough to do something about it (and i mean as in REVOLT), your solution isn't going to work. THEY have all the fiat currency and all the power to enforce THEIR corrupt system upon us and we have little choice but to comply and use it since they've taken the people's money. we have no real representatives. further, try arguing any of this in one of THEIR courts and see how far you get.

now, i do think you are on the right track as far as your effort to educate and i commend you for your energy and enthusiam, however, your message needs to be simplified.

you asked! ;)

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   19:53:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Cynicom (#59)

Sometime you might check John Foster Dulles, now he was a really into eugenics.

(Just to be an LP type asshole):

Barbara Bush is in favor of killing babies!

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:00:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Dakmar (#63)

(Just to be an LP type asshole):

??????????

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-02   20:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: christine (#62)

Article IV

Section 1. Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. And the Congress may by general laws prescribe the manner in which such acts, records, and proceedings shall be proved, and the effect thereof.

Section 2. The citizens of each state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in the several states.

A person charged in any state with treason, felony, or other crime, who shall flee from justice, and be found in another state, shall on demand of the executive authority of the state from which he fled, be delivered up, to be removed to the state having jurisdiction of the crime.

No person held to service or labor in one state, under the laws thereof, escaping into another, shall, in consequence of any law or regulation therein, be discharged from such service or labor, but shall be delivered up on claim of the party to whom such service or labor may be due.

Section 3. New states may be admitted by the Congress into this union; but no new states shall be formed or erected within the jurisdiction of any other state; nor any state be formed by the junction of two or more states, or parts of states, without the consent of the legislatures of the states concerned as well as of the Congress.

The Congress shall have power to dispose of and make all needful rules and regulations respecting the territory or other property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to prejudice any claims of the United States, or of any particular state.

Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Cynicom (#64)

???????

levity, my brother

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:04:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Dakmar, AngelSpawn (#53)

Screw that, it forces everyone to conform.

agree. we do stress individuality here. :P

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   20:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: christine (#62)

FSIA is a federal jurisdictional statute primarily concerned with litigation involving foreign corporations in federal courts. Claiming that FSIA purports to define individual states or individual citizens as "foreign states" for any purpose would necessarily involve heavy drinking or, perhaps, hallucinogenic drugs.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-02   20:10:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Cynicom (#59)

Sometime you might check John Foster Dulles, now he was a really into eugenics.

Cyni, you're poking holes all the history I've learned. This is painful :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-02   20:13:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Dakmar (#65) (Edited)

And don't forget the amendment to Art. IV made at the Appromattox Court House, Virginia, on April 9, 1865:

And should any state decide to leave, we'll invade and burn your cities and towns.

States check in but they can't check out--the roach motel of Democratic Republics as envisioned by dear Abe Lincoln.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-02   20:14:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: wbales (#70)

And should any state decide to leave, we'll invade and burn your cities and towns.

Which State? France? France is a State. So is Russia, and The Peoples Republic of China. Those are both big states, I wonder how long it takes to fly home if you live there? Democratic Peoples Republic of Korea is a State, I like democracies, don't you?

rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

note to self, never combine shrooms, C-Span, and Mr Rogers. Hell with this picture-in-picture nonsense, just make you crazy.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:20:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: christine (#67)

agree. we do stress individuality here. :P

Do we have to be individalistic? All the time?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:23:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Dakmar (#72)

nope. we can do group too.

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   20:29:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Dakmar (#72)

Thought you might like this:

"Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it."

Quote by: Tallulah Bankhead (1903-1968) Actress

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:31:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: christine (#73)

Ok, but don't expect me to release secret Melvins tapes until I know you a little better, cool?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: jessejane (#74)

That's a nice quote, but no, I won't be co-opted into any Tallulah Bankhead cult, I'm a Francis Farmer man!

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Dakmar (#76)

She had a cult?

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Dakmar (#75)

secret Melvins tapes

Aren't 'melvins', 'wedgies' by another name?

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:36:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: christine (#73)

nope. we can do group too.

TMI. :-)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-02   20:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: jessejane (#78)

Aren't 'melvins', 'wedgies' by another name?

Not where I come from.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:40:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: jessejane (#77)

She had a cult?

I may have spoken prematurely!

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: who knows what evil (#79)

mmmmmm..it wasn't my mind going there. :P

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   20:43:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Dakmar (#80)

Aren't 'melvins', 'wedgies' by another name? Not where I come from.

Okay... LOL!!!

Imagine... secret wedgie tapes.. It'd be a hit I'm sure. ;)

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: jessejane (#83)

melvins:

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   20:45:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Dakmar (#81)

She had a cult? I may have spoken prematurely!

Well okay then..

I wouldn't want to be a part of something I didn't know about by accident. ;)

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:46:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Dakmar (#84)

!!

Yep.. those are not wedgies.

What a happy group! /s <..> sheese..

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   20:49:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: jessejane (#83)

Imagine... secret wedgie tapes.. It'd be a hit I'm sure. ;)

You know what an Atomic Wedgie is? You pull the underwear up over the head.

I used to give my nephew wedgies all the time. He had to go into the bathroom to rectify the situation.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-02   20:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: jessejane (#86)

Do you like car songs?

In My Merry Oldsmobile

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:02:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: YertleTurtle (#87)

I used to give my nephew wedgies all the time.

Thank God I have a nice uncle.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Dakmar (#89)

Thank God I have a nice uncle.

Actually I was a pretty good uncle. Once when the Wedgie Kid was about seven, I found him doing that sob/stutter thing they do. He told me some "big kid" stole his bike.

Fortunately, he knew where the kid was, so we drove down there and he watched me hurl this fat kid off of the bike. He bounced real good. ;-)

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-02   21:07:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: jessejane (#85)

I wouldn't want to be a part of something I didn't know about by accident. ;)

I think you're looking for the Jayne Mansfield forum... :)

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:10:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Dakmar (#91)

LOL!! Uh no.

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   21:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: YertleTurtle (#90)

Fortunately, he knew where the kid was, so we drove down there and he watched me hurl this fat kid off of the bike. He bounced real good. ;-)

So you are also a bully that likes beating up on smaller children and voting Democrat?

See how easy GOPC is? It's like stupid simple.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:13:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Dakmar (#72)

Do we have to be individalistic? All the time?

Yes.

After all, Dak, you must remember that you are unique.

Just like everybody else.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   21:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Dakmar (#93)

So you are also a bully that likes beating up on smaller children and voting Democrat?

Vote Democrat -- ugh. I'll vote for a third party if there is a good one.

The kid was a bully who stole my nephew's bike. He was about 12, and stealing a seven-year-old's bike. I suppose I could have called the police and maybe had him arrested (if they would do that), but I thought, naw, I'll just give him a quick lesson on what happens to thieves. So I just grabbed him and tossed him off of the bike.

All the other kids who saw this were very quiet. My nephew was astonished, and has never forgotten it.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-02   21:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: richard9151 (#43)

Roger that, Rich.

And on to bozo you go!

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   21:21:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Neil McIver (#94)

To me that meant always having to get new shoes. Hoosiers are very brand concsious, which amuses me to no end.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:25:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: christine, richard9151 (#62)

while you are likely technically correct in what you've asserted (i believe you are as i've done some study on this), the fact of the matter is most americans would never understand it nor care

That's the entire point. You can't tell captives that their captivity is bad for them if the alternative is something as scary as Uncertainty, which is what their future is anyway even though The Overseers assure them constantly that Security is Job #1.

They need to see people living free from the overseers, and prospering as the rest of the country swirls down the toilet, to understand. "Monkey see, monkey do", not "monkey hear, monkey do".

I like a lot of your research, Richard. I hope you continues to post it and continue to hone your message to a finer and more concise point.

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AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   21:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: YertleTurtle (#87)

You know what an Atomic Wedgie is? You pull the underwear up over the head.

I used to give my nephew wedgies all the time. He had to go into the bathroom to rectify the situation.

Ouch.. !!

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   21:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Starwind (#48)

Actually "Congress" is not a monolithic body that restricts itself to one particular source for the meaning of legal terms. They are lawyers themselves and doctors, businessmen, etc.

My info is that the politicians don't actually pen the laws they sponsor. Instead they are penned by congressional lawyers that work for the politicians. They are told to write a law that does such n so, and they write them.

Black's changes (as do other dictionaries) when new terms of art come into use. For example, my 5th ed Black's (1979) does not have "Hedge Fund" defined, but the 7th ed (1999) does. Legal language evolves, legal dictionaires keep pace, no more, no less.

Though they do change definitions too. The definition of "driving" has changed quite a bit over the years. The Black's law dictionary derives its definitions from court cases, so when/if a court decision includes a term definition, it gets incorporated into Black's law.

Not exactly the best way to go about things but that's how it works.

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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   21:31:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: jessejane (#99)

off topic

Off topic...

Drudge is saying that Washington Times is calling for Hastert to resign tomorrow.

This is bad news for Bush and his pals.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-02   21:33:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Cynicom (#101)

Whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LOVE IT....

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-02   21:34:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: AngelSpawn (#98)

well said.

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   21:34:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Jethro Tull (#102)

LOVE IT....

This is great.... wheeeeeee

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-02   21:35:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, All (#42)

Look, one-legged-man, why would anyone listen to you? All you have to offer is nonsense; you cut and paste nonsense from newspapers, I assume, or breaking news on the net, but have you ever bothered to open a legal dictionary? Or, study some case law? Until you do, if I were you, I would shut-up. Your ignorance is showing.


DickeyBird,

Your eloquent and vitriolic bullshit doesn't alter the clearly ignorant assertion you made about the Constitution originally providing "democracy" to DC. It didn't. You've got to be BAC, by another name - given that you spew ignorance, while lacking the intelligence and grace to admit a mistake.

If you could read, you'd know that I'm famous for original work - including quite a piece on Propaganda, Psyops and Coercive Persuasion.

If you haven't figured it out, you lose, with no possible chance of ever winning in an intelligent environment. Hence your dependency on "links."


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-10-02   21:36:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: christine (#103)

Drudge

Christine check Drudge

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-02   21:36:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Cynicom (#101)

Drudge is saying that Washington Times is calling for Hastert to resign tomorrow.

So Moon is now president? Will I need silly looking new hats?

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Dakmar (#88)

In My Merry Oldsmobile

No clip there Dak.. :( Ever heard Marc Cohn's "Silver Thunderbird" ?? Also a good one.

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   21:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Neil McIver (#100)

My info is that the politicians don't actually pen the laws they sponsor. Instead they are penned by congressional lawyers that work for the politicians. They are told to write a law that does such n so, and they write them.

One of the most frustrating aspects of law research is trying find the author(s) of particular laws. I suspect that many laws are pushed by special interests that hide behind the anonymity of writing legislation that's then pushed by their pet legislator.

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AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   21:38:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Neil McIver (#100)

The so-called "Patriot Act" glaringly demonstrates the willing and servile ignorance of Congressmen, with regard to the bills that they pass. At best, I can only guess that maybe six read the Act, before voting it into law.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-10-02   21:41:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: Cynicom (#104)

hehehehehe....(i just started a thread)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-02   21:41:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: AngelSpawn (#109)

It's hard to believe that special interests would NOT pen proposed legislation that is simply accepted by politicians and copied into a bill.

The 16th amendment was likely penned by the major banking interests.

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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   21:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: SKYDRIFTER (#110)

The so-called "Patriot Act" glaringly demonstrates the willing and servile ignorance of Congressmen, with regard to the bills that they pass. At best, I can only guess that maybe six read the Act, before voting it into law.

some representation, huh?

christine  posted on  2006-10-02   21:47:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Neil McIver (#112)

The 16th amendment was likely penned by the major banking interests.

The Federal Reseve Act of 1913 most certainly was.

In a just world, the names of a law's authors and references to their notes would be required, by law, to be included in the law. No names, no notes - no law.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-02   21:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Cynicom (#101)

This is bad news for Bush and his pals.

Sulfur-gate.

"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992

jessejane  posted on  2006-10-02   21:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: AngelSpawn, Neil McIver (#114)

Section 4. The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations, except as to the places of choosing Senators.

I've always thought that meant the US Senate must be chosen by the states.

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   21:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Dakmar (#116)

I've always thought that meant the US Senate must be chosen by the states.

They were.

Until the 17th Amendment came along.

Supposedly there was a corruption problem related to the legislature's appointing senators, and making the senators elected by the people was the solution.

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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   21:58:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Neil McIver (#117)

Supposedly there was a corruption problem related to the legislature's appointing senators, and making the senators elected by the people was the solution.

Was the media involved? Democracy on the march, progress, free freaking hoopla from 5:00 to 7:00 pm every saturday.

Progressive Era my ***!

The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron

Dakmar  posted on  2006-10-02   22:04:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Neil McIver (#117)

Supposedly there was a corruption problem related to the legislature's appointing senators, and making the senators elected by the people was the solution.

In my cynical view and while it sounds appealing on its face (sort of like adding "for the children" to any proposed legsilation), the 17th was a further dilution of rights and power of the various states--the sheeple being more easily manipulated and swayed in elections than a deliberative, legsilative state representaive assembly.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-02   22:05:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Dakmar (#118)

I imagine the media was involved. Probably had to be to push the amendment through.

The early 1900's was a very sad time in US history. It's when everything started to really fall apart in a big way. That's when people without any memory of the war between the states started running things.

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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   22:08:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Neil McIver (#100)

My info is that the politicians don't actually pen the laws they sponsor. Instead they are penned by congressional lawyers that work for the politicians. They are told to write a law that does such n so, and they write them.

Yes. The politician delegates it all down. In all likelihood they never even read or "proof" what they sponsor. The real "proofing" comes in the adversarial house/senate committee negotiations - then the sponsoring politician finds out what his bill really says when some other politicians' clerks shoves his clerks' noses in it.

Though they do change definitions too. The definition of "driving" has changed quite a bit over the years. The Black's law dictionary derives its definitions from court cases, so when/if a court decision includes a term definition, it gets incorporated into Black's law.

Yes. But the dictionary is effect, not cause. Black's Law Dictionary no more defines "the law" than a roadmap sets boundaries.

(The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)

Starwind  posted on  2006-10-02   22:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: wbales (#119)

I think the 17th was the one and only nail needed to seal the coffin for states rights. There's a reason why the president is elected by electoral college and why he's called "President of the United States" and not "President of the American People". He's supposed to be elected by the states because they are the subjects of the union, not the American people!

The average person isn't *supposed* to care who the president is, as that's purely a matter of concern only for state legislatures. By original design, anyway.

Pinguinite.com

Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-02   22:15:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Neil McIver (#122)

I think the 17th was the one and only nail needed to seal the coffin for states rights.

The Commerce Clause run amok was a mighty big factor, too.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-02   22:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Neil McIver, Dakmar (#117)

Until the 17th Amendment came along.

The Great Constitutional Rewrite of the Early 20th Century was quite a feat for the Money Powers.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

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AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-03   0:52:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: AngelSpawn (#124)

Yes, a lot of bad stuff happened between 1910 and 1940.

Maybe the Industrial Revolution of the late 1800's did something to people. Made life too easy and convenient or something.

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Neil McIver  posted on  2006-10-03   1:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Neil McIver (#125)

Maybe the Industrial Revolution of the late 1800's did something to people. Made life too easy and convenient or something.

Holy Fabian Socialism, Batman!

buckeroo  posted on  2006-10-03   2:25:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Neil McIver (#125)

Maybe the Industrial Revolution of the late 1800's did something to people. Made life too easy and convenient or something.

It made life easier for some and hard as ever for others. One thing it did was concentrate capital and power into even fewer hands than before.

The ADL is training the New Gestapo

"I am not in here so many years using my own name because I am in the business of lying to anyone anyplace on the Internet I've been." Ferret Mike

AngelSpawn  posted on  2006-10-03   4:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: lodwick (#5)

lodwick, I am sending this to a few people, not intended for you, but just for information;

Let me clear a couple of misconceptions;

First, let us listen to Mr. Justice Harlan of the Supreme Court;

The idea prevails with some -- indeed, it found expression in arguments at the bar -- that we have in this country substantially or practically two national governments; one, to be maintained under the Constitution, with all its restrictions; the other to be maintained by Congress outside and independently of that instrument, by exercising such powers as other nations of the earth are accustomed to exercise.

[Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)]

To appreciate how alarmed Justice Harlan had become as a result of this new "theory", consider the following from his dissent:

I take leave to say that if the principles thus announced should ever receive the sanction of a majority of this court, a radical and mischievous change in our system of government will be the result. We will, in that event, pass from the era of constitutional liberty guarded and protected by a written constitution into an era of legislative absolutism. ...

It will be an evil day for American liberty if the theory of a government outside of the supreme law of the land finds lodgment in our constitutional jurisprudence. No higher duty rests upon this court than to exert its full authority to prevent all violation of the principles of the Constitution.

[Downes v. Bidwell, 182 U.S. 244 (1901)]

The two most important parts of this are the date, 1901, and understanding that this comment came from the dissent; he was complaining because this is exactly what this case decided, that there were TWO national governments, not one.

But wait, we have not finished the story because we have yet to explain WHY the Constitution does not apply to the Federal District States!

United States v. Cornell 25 Fed. Cas. 646, no. 14,867 C.C.D.R.I. 1819 … It is under the like terms in the same clause of the constitution that exclusive jurisdiction is now exercised by congress in the District of Columbia …

In Downes v. Bidwell, 1901, the Supreme Court ruled that "exclusive" meant exactly that; EXCLUSIVE jurisdiction, with no control from the Constitution. (In Downes v. Bidwell, the Court ruled that "exclusive" meant "without consideration of the Constitutional restraints...") See Justice Harlan´s comments above.

Because the Constitution was specifically written to permit Congress to have Exclusive Jurisdiction over the Federal Zone, and it is obvious, with the actions of George Washington in creating the Federal District States and thus extending the Federal Zone over the top of the several states of the Union that the so-called Founding Fathers knew exactly what they were doing.

How do we know this? There is a saying that there are no accidents in politics. That makes sense when you think about it, because if what was done was in error, it was corrected. This situation with Exclusive Jurisdiction was not an error, because it has been in place and causing havoc in America since 1791; that is 215 years! I would judge that, indeed, it was no accident.

Now, there are two national governments; that means that there are two Constitutions.

Go here; http://www.theawaregroup.co m/original13th.htm

This was going to be a post, but I am sure not going to waste my time with that!

Now, I understand that it is interesting to listen to people like Mr. BTP talk about how the problem started in 1933 with some slight of hand by the Supreme Court, but do you think he knows more than Justice Harland did in 1901? Or, how about those who talk about the bankruptcy in 1929, or the Federal Reserve Act in 1913, or, the Civil War, or something-or-other in 1975…. And on and on and on and on. They all have ideas, but no one goes to the root of the problem.

And by the way, Mr. BTP is correct about the Law Merchant, which is the merchant law of Babylon transferred through Rome to here. But does that mean that is the root of the problem? Not hardly.

And I know that it is difficult to stop passing notes with the rest of the children in 4um, but sooner or later you have to grow up…. Or not, of course.

If you wish to just begin to understand, I suggest you start with More Blonde jokes II, and you might want to read Who Controls the United States, Part 2.

And by the way, here is what the Constitutional Amendment would do;

It would apply the Constitution to the Exclusive Jurisdiction of Congress, thereby eliminating, in one stroke;

FBI

IRS

Federal Reserve Bank

Federal Codes

And etc. etc. etc. But hey, what do I know.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-03   13:58:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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