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Title: Government thugs handcuff children, kill dog during $60 marijuana raid
Source: Marijuana Policy Project
URL Source: http://www.mpp.org
Published: Sep 28, 2006
Author: Rob Kampia
Post Date: 2006-10-02 17:19:33 by Neil McIver
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Views: 2941
Comments: 194

I want to share with you a recent horrifying example of our government's war on marijuana users. Get ready to be outraged.

The following is an excerpt from a September 20 article in the "Times Union" in Albany, New York:

"A police strike team raided a woman's Prospect Street apartment and handcuffed her children and killed her dog early Tuesday in a $60 pot bust. The woman called it excessive force and a case of mistaken identity, but officers said they stormed the home for a good reason: One of her sons was selling marijuana there.

The Police Department's tactical squad knocked down the front door of the upstairs apartment at 110 Prospect St. and flooded into the apartment shortly after 6 a.m.

'I heard a big boom. My first reaction was to jump out of bed. We were trying to find where our kids were at and all of a sudden we had guns in our faces,' said 40-year-old Anita Woodyear, who rents the second-floor flat.

During the ensuing chaos, police handcuffed two of the woman's children, Elijah Bradley, 11, and 12-year-old Victoria Perez, and shot at her dog in the kitchen before killing it in the bathroom, Woodyear said.

'That seems like an awful lot of firepower for marijuana,' said Fred Clark of the Schenectady chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. 'That's like spending $125,000 for $5.'

Woodyear said she suspected police had intended to search a neighboring home, but had the wrong address on the search warrant. Neighbors said they suspect illicit drugs are dealt at other homes on the block.

'No apology, no "sorry about your dog",' she said.

But police said they have no reason to apologize. They said they raided the house because Woodyear's 18-year-old son, Israel M. Bradley, sold three plastic bags of marijuana there for $40 on Sept. 15. They allege he sold two other bags of marijuana in the house for $20 on Aug. 28, they said.

In addition, police said Bradley was carrying marijuana in the home on Sept. 1. 'We had the absolute right house. We had the absolute right target,' said Assistant Chief Michael Seber."

Visit http://ny.mpp.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=grKMIYPGIqE&b=1773617&ct=2947891 to read the entire article.

Who do the police think they're helping by breaking down the front door of a family's home, pointing guns in their faces, murdering their dog, and handcuffing the children? Was this for the good of the children? The mother? The neighborhood?

No one wins -- except perhaps for the government thugs who get jacked up on the adrenaline rush that comes from threatening and persecuting others.

We have to stop this madness. We have to change the laws so that government thugs no longer have the legal authority to kick in people's doors to find marijuana.

If you're as outraged by the above story as I am, please turn your anger into action by helping MPP restore sense to our nation's marijuana policies.

Thank you for standing with us in this important fight.

Sincerely,

Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.

P.S. As I've mentioned in previous alerts, a major philanthropist has committed to match the first $3.5 million that MPP can raise from the rest of the planet in 2006. This means that your donation today will be doubled. Subscribe to *Marijuana Policy Project*

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#93. To: christine (#89)

i'm not disputing that what you've posted is factual, but it sure seems to me that it's pretty damn futile to try to fight a centuries old conspiracy, especially if you believe bible prophesy that this is all going to happen

So, you also advocate the position of bwales that it is better to pot that black robed ... um, whatever, in Reno, than work for a solution? Am I correct? Because what wbales is doing is called incitement. That is a crime. Within the United States, of course, so, is this the solution that you also advocate? Because I do not. I NEVER want to pick up a gun and go after someone. EVER! I do not even own a gun anymore, and I have no intention of ever owning one again. Do I believe Bible prophesy, yes, I do, and I also believe what the Bible says about no man knowing the time of His coming. So, do I stop and wait? Don´t think so. But that is just me. You´all do as you see best, because hey, what do I know.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   13:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, BTP Holdings, wbales, Tauzero, christine, jessejane, RickyJ, mehitable, Zoroaster, robin, Eoghan, tom007, Jethro Tull, Neil McIver, lodwick, angel, AngelSpawn, , randge, all (#92)

DickeyBird,

If the Masons had any power, I'd still be flying airliners. It's that simple.

What's this PSYOPS distraction of yours about? "Don't look at Bush?"

This is the 21st Century; what are the Masons up to, worthy of your pathological attack?

Well....?

Whose "Agent" are you, anyway. Clearly you've been to "Disinformation School." Are you "BAC," by another name?

Are you assigned to stir up Anti-Semitism, so as to flag targets for the ADL?

What's your "mission?" You can tell us.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-10-04   13:57:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: wbales (#87)

I think you should further complicate your position by quoting passages from Don Quixote de la Mancha.

No, don´t think so... I was kind of saving that for you, cause it would make more sense than anything else you have had to say.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   13:58:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: SKYDRIFTER (#94)

What's your "mission?" You can tell us.

Exposing such as you, of course, one-legged-man.

And putting some sense into the non-sense. God Bless, all

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   13:59:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: richard9151 (#92)

"Does that indicate stupidity, arguing with established judicial case law which goes back 187 years to 1819, or, just disinformation?"

Under Stare Decisis past court rulings become precedent and these decisions determine subsequent legal decisions. All legal precedents are subject to being overturned or modified thus argument concerning past legal decisions is quite germane and proper and is a common function of our legal system.

Arguing religion based on harebrained maps and religious doctrine and writings is quite a different thing. You are arguing apples and oranges.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-04   14:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: richard9151, Christine, Aristeides, Honway, Critter, BTP Holdings, wbales, Tausero, christine, jessejane, RickyJ, mehtable, Zoroaster, robin, Eoghan, tom007, Jethro Tull, Neil McIver, lodwick, angel, AngelSpawn, , range, all (#92)


According to your irrational rantings, DickeyBird (BAC?); you are really fucked up. This is the 21st Century, what of Masons today?

Washington was a Mason & used to own slaves. Did you leave that out?

(Shame on you, DickeyBird!)

Welcome to the 21st Century - what's new, in the Masonic world?

Or, take me - as a Mason. Look to my pleas to return to the "Proud America." How bad can Masons be? Look to my 9-11 Web Site.

http://home.comcast.net/~skyd rifter/exp.htm

That's a lot of risk-taking, in my attempts to restore "Proud America." Does that make me - or "Masons" bad?

Where's your contribution, versus your whining and rantings?


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-10-04   14:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, mehitable, christine, Zipporah, Diana, rowdee, ruthie, richard9151 (#97)

Under Stare Decisis past court rulings become precedent and these decisions determine subsequent legal decisions. All legal precedents are subject to being overturned or modified thus argument concerning past legal decisions is quite germane and proper and is a common function of our legal system.

Arguing religion based on harebrained maps and religious doctrine and writings is quite a different thing. You are arguing apples and oranges.

Right. The Dred Scott Decision of 1857 was a precedent until 1861. The challenge came when runaway slaves sought refuge in Fortress Monroe, VA and the commanding officer, one Major General Benjamin Butler (aka Beastly Ben, aka "Spoons" for his habit of pilfering silverware at dinner parties) granted the slaves sanctuary.

And it was a Connecticut jury that essentially buried the fugitive slave law by simply refusing to convict.

Footnote: This was the same Maj. Gen Butler who issued the infamous General Order #28.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   14:21:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: HOUNDDAWG (#99)

"Spoons" bump

Thanks much for that nugget of the day.

Lod  posted on  2006-10-04   14:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: richard9151 (#80)

You didn't answer my question.

What defense do I use if I'm arrested?

Also, please show this forum where such a defense has achieved success.

G*d bless you.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-04   14:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: lodwick (#100)

You must be a Confederate. My Yankee buddies don't find it all that amusing! ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   14:36:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: HOUNDDAWG (#102) (Edited)

Jim is one of the many reasons I wish the South had won.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-04   14:45:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: richard9151 (#92)

Or, is it just disinformation, just as when wbales writes about killing people; now, is that a solution, or, incitment?

What are you talking about?? Direct me to that specific language/post.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-04   14:46:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: richard9151 (#92)

Or, is it just disinformation, just as when wbales writes about killing people

I wrote no such thing.

And since there is no idiot block, I'll have to just put you on my BOZO list.

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-04   15:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: richard9151 (#93)

I do not even own a gun anymore, and I have no intention of ever owning one again.

not wise at all, imo. i posted to you the other day that i don't believe anything short of a complete economic collapse will work to wake up the american people in a critical enough number to effect a massive change. when/if that happens, there's going to be total chaos and it's going to be pretty much survival of the fittest. i, for one, want to insure that i have everything possible to defend myself. and i'll tell you what, it's government agents i fear doing me and mine harm much moreso than common street thugs.

christine  posted on  2006-10-04   15:19:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: SKYDRIFTER (#94)

What's your "mission?" You can tell us.

Besides generally making no sense, at least part of his mission was to mis-read posts, mis-attribute comments to me and get placed on my BOZO list.

Mission Accomplished

In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.

wbales  posted on  2006-10-04   15:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: SKYDRIFTER (#94)

Be gentle...richard is offering us salvation from the safety of Mexico City. I for one am grateful for his wisdom :)

Jethro Tull  posted on  2006-10-04   15:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: christine (#88)

i know a few others who are in that race :P

LOL!



***LEAP***

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-04   15:26:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: christine (#106)

...i, for one, want to insure that i have everything possible to defend myself....

christine walked up behind me, stuck a pair of .38's in my back THEN SHE PULLED OUT A GUN!" ;)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   15:29:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: HOUNDDAWG (#110)

"christine walked up behind me, stuck a pair of .38's in my back THEN SHE PULLED OUT A GUN!"

One of the great mysteries I'm puzzled about these Republicans of the Mark Foley variety; why do they prefer to do the nasty with a partner with no rack, then send them off to Iraq? How is that raq preferable to knowing in fullness the other sort of rack?

Not only do I not understand this, I profoundly never want to. ;-)

Ferret Mike  posted on  2006-10-04   16:05:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: christine. everyone here (#106)

Locked & loaded bump.

Lod  posted on  2006-10-04   16:51:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: HOUNDDAWG. christine (#110)

christine walked up behind me, stuck a pair of .38's in my back THEN SHE PULLED OUT A GUN!" ;)

What can I say?

She does have formidable firepower...for sure.

.45ACP BUMP!

Lod  posted on  2006-10-04   16:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Neil McIver (#0)

Perhaps they should just go straight to the Janet Reno method.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-04   16:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: christine (#106)

Amen to that!



***LEAP***

"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford

IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-04   16:58:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: Neil McIver, BTP Holdings, wbales, Tausero, christine, jessejane, RickyJ, mehtable, Zoroaster, robin, Eoghan, tom007, Jethro Tull, lodwick, angel, AngelSpawn, max, Phant2000, range, all (#84)

The Constitution is alive and quite well, thank you,

Please read number 84 first, please, and now I want to take this a little further on, and show you another way that George Bush could turn things around, in a heart beat.

As you read this, remember what the President of Iran told us; that representatives of the United States government have been meeting with the leaders of the insurrection, arming them, and funding them, thus guarenteeing that a civil war would occur.

I just posted a new post; Congress sets aside 20M to celebrate wars end, from AP

Now, why would they do that? And, why will the Democracts NOT jump on the bank wagon against the war? Do they know something.... that you don¨t know?

Bet on it. Here is a solution to the war, and it accomplishes exactly what I outlined in number 84.

Already being talked about in Bagdad is the possibility of ending the sectarian violence by agreeing to partion Iran; that would be for the Shites, Kurds, and whoever the third faction is. But here is the rest of the story; you will be told, in only one or two news account, that a compromise has been reached whereby all Iraqi people will have access to Bagdad, but because of sectarian violence, Bagdad will be under the direct control of the Iraqi parliment (or whatever) WHICH WILL HAVE EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER BAGDAD.

It will then be explained that the three separate sections of Iraq will now be legally separate (or words to that effect), with their own school systems, own laws, own courts, and own police, etc. etc.

It will also be explained that, in order to benefit the Iraqi people in general, BAGDAD WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER ALL NATURAL RESOURCES. Bingo, control of the oil. And, the Iraqi people, now split up, will no longer be able to resist what is going on.

If this occurs before the election, the election will be a slam dunk for the Repub., the Dems do not look bad because they never came out against the war, and.... it paves the way for the war in Iran. I mean, who is going to argue with George Bush, when he SO obviously knows what he is doing. Right?

And good-bye 9/11 problems. Who wants to hear that nonsense now when we are winning the war on terror!

Oh, and the other thing that you are going to be told is how fortunate are the Iraqis, because they now have a Constitution which is modeled, more or less, after that greatest of all documents, the US Constitution. Lucky people.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   18:35:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: HOUNDDAWG, Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, mehitable, christine, Zipporah, Diana, rowdee, ruthie (#99)

All legal precedents are subject to being overturned or modified

Absolutely correct, and if you care to examine the time frame shown, it is 4 years. I have even seen over-turns that were done after 15 years, but that is very rare. I have never seen a case that has lasted for 187 years be over- turned, and I never will; nor will I ever see a case that is 105 years old be over-turned. A case that is this old, and which has been sited in deciding 100s of other cases, is something that is set in concrete; if it were over-turned, then the ripple effect down through all of the other cases that were decided on this case would be wondrous indeed to observe. Ain´t gonna happen; can not happen, is an impossibility.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   18:43:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Jethro Tull (#101)

Also, please show this forum where such a defense has achieved success.

Arrestd for what? Littering? Drunk driving? Armed robbery? Incest? A persons got to know, you know.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   18:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: wbales (#104)

Direct me to that specific language/post.

Sorry; it was Jethro speaking TO you.

The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   18:48:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: richard9151, Jethro Tull (#117)

I have never seen a case that has lasted for 187 years be over- turned, and I never will; nor will I ever see a case that is 105 years old be over-turned.

It wasn't that many years ago that an ART.3 judge ruled that Art 1 sec 10 of the constitution was "superfluous".

Despite the clear constitutional mandate that "no state shall make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts", which by the way was not an afterthought because banker mischief was well known to the founders, real money is gone and debt paper has taken its place.

The simple truth is, a judge may dismantle any protection you believe you have, the appeals court will uphold it and the SCOTUS will deny certiorari, and the media will paint you as a kook for having believed so strongly that the system is somehow obligated to uphold archaic laws because you invoked them.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   19:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: HOUNDDAWG (#110)

34s :P

There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman

christine  posted on  2006-10-04   19:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: richard9151 (#117) (Edited)

A case that is this old, and which has been sited in deciding 100s of other cases, is something that is set in concrete; if it were over- turned, then the ripple effect down through all of the other cases that were decided on this case would be wondrous indeed to observe. Ain´t gonna happen; can not happen, is an impossibility.

precisely. my point to you in prior posts. why is it, then, that you believe the solution is seeking the change of a few words of the 17th amendment?

There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman

christine  posted on  2006-10-04   19:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: richard9151 (#92)

Friend, you'd probably have a lot better luck attempting to educate folks about what obviously to you is an important topic. Quite bluntly and to the point, IMO you'd attract a lot more folks if you didn't try to put the entire enclyclopedia in a single post.

It's brain overload, and a wasted way to get folks really to think about and ponder over what you've taken the time to write.

Personally, I believe you'd get a lot further down the pike by making a serialization of your project. Even maintain an index.........and lead folks into your project in a methodical way...one that helps them see the light step by step, or one room or container after another.....but not all at once.

But this bullshit of trying to put the entire National Archives into a single posting won't cut it.

There was another fella at tos2 that had an obsession on one subject--that's all he ever was concerned about. He'd get really frustrated that others just didn't jump thru hoops to go thru his posts. I often wonder if he didn't bust a gasket or something.......

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-04   19:43:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: HOUNDDAWG (#99)

Goodness....you're just a walking, talking mini-cyclopedia! :) Interesting, too.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-04   19:46:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: richard9151 (#116)

Already being talked about in Bagdad is the possibility of ending the sectarian violence by agreeing to partion Iran; that would be for the Shites, Kurds, and whoever the third faction is.

Hate to burst your bubble there, richard9151...but anyone deciding anything in BagHdad about doing anything by partitioning IRAN is so full of shit! They just had to pull out a battalion of the iraqi police force because they were in cahoots with militia death squads.

That means that our soldiers, and a large number of them, will be redirected into BagHdad to dodge bullets, death squads, suicide bombers as this large battalion of iraqi police have to be retrained and reconditioned and pass all sorts of loyalty tests before they can be of service---there is so way in hell they're gonna be able to get those religious sects or their militias to think about partitioning IRAN.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-04   19:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: richard9151 (#116)

Oh yeah.....I wanted to mention something about your constitutional amendment. Your chances of geting congresscowards to go along with that are about zippo.

And if you called for a constititional convention, I, for one, would fight you every step of the way. The minute a concon is called, it is all over for sure. Positively. Overnight.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-04   19:57:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: christine (#121)

34s :P

I thought you said 38s!

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-04   20:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: rowdee (#124)

Thanks.

I grew up in Norfolk, VA, in the shadow of Fortress Monroe. It also happens to be in immediate proximity to the location where the ironclads, the USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia (Merrimack) did battle in Hampton Roads.

The Civil War was a focus of interest of mine as a kid, and Gettysburg is still my favorite getaway spot.

I live in Delaware now, near the fort on Pea Patch Island that served as a prison for captured Confederates. One of them was my great great uncle who fought with the 5th North Carolina and was captured at The Battle Of The Stone Wall at Gettysburg. He and 2,435 others, mostly malaria victims are buried in a mass grave across the river in New Jersey in Finn's Point National Cemetery.

This is the same cemetery where Andrew Cunanan murdered the caretaker and stole his truck, then drove to FLA to murder fashion designer Gianni Versace. I visit this mass grave often. It's well maintained (including the display of crisp Confederate flags on the four corners of the gravesite) by the Fort Delaware Society. it's a shame that such a solemn place has to carry the memory of the murdering psycho gay prostitute.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   20:17:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: rowdee (#127)

that was Cheri :P

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There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman

christine  posted on  2006-10-04   20:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: rowdee (#126)

And if you called for a constititional convention, I, for one, would fight you every step of the way. The minute a concon is called, it is all over for sure. Positively. Overnight.

Can you imagine Ted Kennedy and Diane Feinstein rewriting the constitution?

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   20:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: christine (#129)

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That's more like it them.

Lod  posted on  2006-10-04   20:38:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: HOUNDDAWG (#130)

Can you imagine Ted Kennedy and Diane Feinstein rewriting the constitution?

Nope ... but ignoring it looks easy enough for them !

"consensus facit legem"

"consensus makes the law"

noone222  posted on  2006-10-04   20:40:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: noone222 (#132)

Nope ... but ignoring it looks easy enough for them !

Nothing I can add to that.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   20:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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