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Title: Government thugs handcuff children, kill dog during $60 marijuana raid
Source: Marijuana Policy Project
URL Source: http://www.mpp.org
Published: Sep 28, 2006
Author: Rob Kampia
Post Date: 2006-10-02 17:19:33 by Neil McIver
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I want to share with you a recent horrifying example of our government's war on marijuana users. Get ready to be outraged.

The following is an excerpt from a September 20 article in the "Times Union" in Albany, New York:

"A police strike team raided a woman's Prospect Street apartment and handcuffed her children and killed her dog early Tuesday in a $60 pot bust. The woman called it excessive force and a case of mistaken identity, but officers said they stormed the home for a good reason: One of her sons was selling marijuana there.

The Police Department's tactical squad knocked down the front door of the upstairs apartment at 110 Prospect St. and flooded into the apartment shortly after 6 a.m.

'I heard a big boom. My first reaction was to jump out of bed. We were trying to find where our kids were at and all of a sudden we had guns in our faces,' said 40-year-old Anita Woodyear, who rents the second-floor flat.

During the ensuing chaos, police handcuffed two of the woman's children, Elijah Bradley, 11, and 12-year-old Victoria Perez, and shot at her dog in the kitchen before killing it in the bathroom, Woodyear said.

'That seems like an awful lot of firepower for marijuana,' said Fred Clark of the Schenectady chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. 'That's like spending $125,000 for $5.'

Woodyear said she suspected police had intended to search a neighboring home, but had the wrong address on the search warrant. Neighbors said they suspect illicit drugs are dealt at other homes on the block.

'No apology, no "sorry about your dog",' she said.

But police said they have no reason to apologize. They said they raided the house because Woodyear's 18-year-old son, Israel M. Bradley, sold three plastic bags of marijuana there for $40 on Sept. 15. They allege he sold two other bags of marijuana in the house for $20 on Aug. 28, they said.

In addition, police said Bradley was carrying marijuana in the home on Sept. 1. 'We had the absolute right house. We had the absolute right target,' said Assistant Chief Michael Seber."

Visit http://ny.mpp.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=grKMIYPGIqE&b=1773617&ct=2947891 to read the entire article.

Who do the police think they're helping by breaking down the front door of a family's home, pointing guns in their faces, murdering their dog, and handcuffing the children? Was this for the good of the children? The mother? The neighborhood?

No one wins -- except perhaps for the government thugs who get jacked up on the adrenaline rush that comes from threatening and persecuting others.

We have to stop this madness. We have to change the laws so that government thugs no longer have the legal authority to kick in people's doors to find marijuana.

If you're as outraged by the above story as I am, please turn your anger into action by helping MPP restore sense to our nation's marijuana policies.

Thank you for standing with us in this important fight.

Sincerely,

Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.

P.S. As I've mentioned in previous alerts, a major philanthropist has committed to match the first $3.5 million that MPP can raise from the rest of the planet in 2006. This means that your donation today will be doubled. Subscribe to *Marijuana Policy Project*

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#84. To: Neil McIver, BTP Holdings, wbales, Tausero, christine, jessejane, RickyJ, mehtable, Zoroaster, robin, Eoghan, tom007, Jethro Tull, lodwick, angel, AngelSpawn, , range, all (#0)

Dead Constitution

The Constitution is alive and quite well, thank you, and I want to show ALL of you how little you understand, EVEN WHEN THE INFORMATION IS HANDED TO YOU, BY YOUR FELLOW CHILDREN.

1. The US government is incompetent; look at how badly they are handling the War in Iraq! (Jeez. As if.) I see this theme constantly being discussed on 4um, and repeated repeated repeated repeated endlessly. Meanwhile, the important part of the info flies past all of you with hardly a notice, and, it would be the part that could be used to awaken people.

2. The US government has constantly refused to send enought soldiers to Iraq to ´get the job done.´ An action which is repeated is not an accident, and reveals INTENT. Do you understand, children?

3. On 4um, there was a post some time ago detailing a meeting with many different military officiers, including Turkish military in which a new, proposed map of the Middle East was presented BY THE US MILITARY. The Turkish military walked out of the meeting as soon as the map was presented. Why? Because the map revealed the INTENT of the US government which included carving off a part of Turkey to form the new state of the Kurds. BUT, what the new map also revealed was no-more-Iran; Iran was divided into three separate sections. Sound familiar? Because this division of Iraq can not occur without a civil war...... WOW! Boy!!! Is that US government incompetent or what?!

There was also a post on 4um before about the intent of the US government to turn Bagdad into a new City State..... well, let me see.... Bagdad..... ummmmm... See the post, Masonary is a Religion. See the post, The Talmud Unmasked. Ummm, what is the federal code? Oh, right, according to BTP Holdings, the Law Merchant, and he is correct, but.... the Law Merchant is the merchant law of Babylon brought forward through Rome and incorporated within the Federal Zone. Oh, yes, I forgot, Bagdad IS the location of old Babylon. so for the purposes of religion, Bagdad IS Babylon.

It is The Babylonian Talmud, and if you read the post, Masonry is a Religion, you will find that the Masons are the keepers of the Mysteries (their words, not mine) of Nimrod, who.... oh right, was King of Babylon and the founder of the Mystery Religion (and worshipped throughout the ages of the world as Baal, Marduk, and the Sun; anyone care to worship on the day of the Sun? You know, Sun-day?), and the Mystery Religion of Babylon is the religion of the Roman church named catholic, or, universal. See the book, Two Babylons, but hey, what do I know.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   12:00:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: richard9151 (#84)

i'm not disputing that what you've posted is factual, but it sure seems to me that it's pretty damn futile to try to fight a centuries old conspiracy, especially if you believe bible prophesy that this is all going to happen.

christine  posted on  2006-10-04   13:02:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: christine (#89)

i'm not disputing that what you've posted is factual, but it sure seems to me that it's pretty damn futile to try to fight a centuries old conspiracy, especially if you believe bible prophesy that this is all going to happen

So, you also advocate the position of bwales that it is better to pot that black robed ... um, whatever, in Reno, than work for a solution? Am I correct? Because what wbales is doing is called incitement. That is a crime. Within the United States, of course, so, is this the solution that you also advocate? Because I do not. I NEVER want to pick up a gun and go after someone. EVER! I do not even own a gun anymore, and I have no intention of ever owning one again. Do I believe Bible prophesy, yes, I do, and I also believe what the Bible says about no man knowing the time of His coming. So, do I stop and wait? Don´t think so. But that is just me. You´all do as you see best, because hey, what do I know.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   13:53:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: richard9151 (#93)

I do not even own a gun anymore, and I have no intention of ever owning one again.

not wise at all, imo. i posted to you the other day that i don't believe anything short of a complete economic collapse will work to wake up the american people in a critical enough number to effect a massive change. when/if that happens, there's going to be total chaos and it's going to be pretty much survival of the fittest. i, for one, want to insure that i have everything possible to defend myself. and i'll tell you what, it's government agents i fear doing me and mine harm much moreso than common street thugs.

christine  posted on  2006-10-04   15:19:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: christine, Neil McIver, BTP Holdings, wbales, Tausero, christine, jessejane, max, Phant2000, lodwick, angel, AngelSpawn, RickyJ, all (#106)

not wise at all,

Christine, please do not start on me. You do not know all of the story and, you are foegetting something as well.

First off, I have been doing this for more years, probably, than most anyone on this list has been aware that there is even a problem. (Are you listing, Mr. Holdings?) I have not had a driver´s lic. in more than 25 years; have had private plates on my pick-up more than 20 years ago; have not had a bank account in my name in more than 20 years, and etc. etc.

And I have put up with the friends, family, neighbors and strangers as well; what´s the matter, you anti-American believing all that shit? Hey, why can´t you just use regular plates like everyone else... you special or something? Jesus! Anyone believes like you, man, they belong in jail!

And I have been there as well, twice for 91 days each time (and a couple of shorter visits as well). All they could do to me for contempt of court. Of course, if they knew how much contempt, they would have thrown away the key.

And I have had the guns, more than 50 rifles, 20 handguns, reload my own ammo, more than 5,000 rds of armour piercing ammo, and etc. etc. etc. Most of my rifles had fiberglass bedded barrels, and I am a very, very good shot.

I have been there, and done that, and you know what? It comes complete with a bunker mentality. Us against them, and, it cuts you off from normal Americans. They do not get it, and you can not reach them unless you can figure out some way to do it, that they will understand. That means education, cause you ain´t got a TV station.

And what did you forget, Christine? I left the United States 25 years ago, yes, but I left the states themselves about 10 years ago (because I know full well what is coming), and I now live in Mexico, where I do not have a problem with the jack booted thugs, at least, no yet. And am I alone? No, there are about 8,000 former Americans living in this little fishing village (not so little any more), and more coming all of the time, and I understand why. Some, because they can live here much cheaper, but there are others who understand as well. Most of them won´t talk, but after you visit a little, well, they know.

I have given presentations on the Federal Reserve and Disappearing Money to groups as large as 2,000 people, and I knew nothing; but I knew more than they did, so we all gained something. I have had question and answer sessions with groups that lasted sometimes in excess of 6 hours, and I had to answer dozens of questions. I have been on the radio, and did call-in with questions, but not much since my first wife got sick; that pretty well ended all of my activities. I have been writing and researching for more than 25 years, and, the more I learn, the more I find I have to learn, unlike some on here who, obviously, know it all.

So, as I said, do not get on me, Christine, unless you have a similiar track record.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-04   23:14:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: richard9151 (#145)

First off, I have been doing this for more years, probably, than most anyone on this list has been aware that there is even a problem. (Are you listing, Mr. Holdings?) I have not had a driver´s lic. in more than 25 years; have had private plates on my pick-up more than 20 years ago; have not had a bank account in my name in more than 20 years, and etc. etc.

Easy to say, but you are basically an unknown commodity here. Got any proof of this? And what process, if any, are you using?

The only place I hear anything like this is from ignorant busy bodies, or government agents. This rural area I live in now, not a soul has said a word about my private property tags. And it was pretty much the same back in the other place where I was living not far from here. The county cops knew about it and they didn't care. They figured as long as I wasn't bothering anyone there was no reason to mess with me. And that is the way it should be. Only the state creeps had an attitude.

I thought you said you would never own another gun. So why would you even mention something like this? Prudence dictates that it is not wise to tell of being in possession of any such amount of arms and ammo as you have stated.

We know about all this. You got a plan maybe?

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-05   0:12:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: BTP Holdings (#154)

I thought you said you would never own another gun.

The statement was past tense, as in HAVE HAD. As to putting up with people, living in Missouri is far different from where I lived, and it was far different 20 years ago as well. And, the process that I and my friends used are hardly appropriate to today. I have looked at your paperwork, and I suspect that it does suffice, today. That does not mean that you can use THEIR system against them indefinately. They will adjust, as it is their system.

As to having a plan, why, yes, I do, thank you for asking.

richard9151  posted on  2006-10-05   11:28:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: richard9151 (#162)

That does not mean that you can use THEIR system against them indefinately. They will adjust, as it is their system.

The judges are bound to uphold the code and if they change any of it, they run the risk of invalidating the entire scam. The commercial rules are set and to change them would cause great upheaval in the corporate sector. There would be a great many fascists upset with any changes. And besides, the few who are doing this is of little consequence. That is why we need more students and more to "do the deed."

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-05   12:55:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: BTP Holdings, richard9151, Zipporah, christine, lodwick, Neil McGiver (#165)

The judges are bound to uphold the code and if they change any of it, they run the risk of invalidating the entire scam. The commercial rules are set and to change them would cause great upheaval in the corporate sector. There would be a great many fascists upset with any changes. And besides, the few who are doing this is of little consequence.

A tardy afterthought:

Do you recall when the SCOTUS split along party lines 5 to 4 and handed Bush the presidency, and, ordered that their decision not be used as a precedent in any other case?

And, did you happen to notice that Bush and his bobbleheaded attorney general have trimmed fat off of the US Constitution, The UCMJ, federal statutes and the Geneva Convention with signing statements, and not one congressman, senator, federal justice, judge or magistrate or any flag officer with the authority to arrest the bastards for his open treason emitted a peep of objection?

The reality is this: Not one career office holder will risk his or her pension to simply save the American people from the inevitable march of jackboots over us.

The best chance we had were the cadets of West Point who spoke against the unlawful war, until they were given a direct order to waive their now dead constitutional right to speak, even if they were making the charge of treason.

The truth is even if they succeeded and the president and his cronies were impeached or indicted, charged and convicted, sentenced and hanged, the cadets would still be guilty of disobeying a direct order and they would lose their commissions, and none of them are willing to sacrifice their military family legacies just for a bunch of greedy, socialist Lilliputian welfare state-worshiping dumb asses who dont vote and most of who don't even know who their congressman and two senators are.

And, if the cadets lose their commissions and their bright futures, they will have lost much more than the people who don't even know what rights have been stripped away in broad daylight as the president signed those bills on the White House lawn.

I can see it now:

The Supreme Court ruled that the UCC does not apply to one component of American Commercial law-the registration of automobiles.

"We find that because public safety is paramount and more lives are lost in car crashes because of unsafe vehicles than are lost to accidental or intentional homicides with firearms, the recent legal maneuvering to attempt to defeat the mandatory registration, licensing, inspection and safe operation of motor vehicles or any powered conveyence intended for commercial or recreational transportation of goods and people are an issue of national security.

We hold for the state and remand to the lower court for sentencing....."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-12   4:31:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: HOUNDDAWG (#185)

I can see it now:

The Supreme Court ruled that the UCC does not apply to one component of American Commercial law-the registration of automobiles.

"We find that because public safety is paramount and more lives are lost in car crashes because of unsafe vehicles than are lost to accidental or intentional homicides with firearms, the recent legal maneuvering to attempt to defeat the mandatory registration, licensing, inspection and safe operation of motor vehicles or any powered conveyence intended for commercial or recreational transportation of goods and people are an issue of national security.

I doubt that. They can't change the code. If you had an inkling of how it operates under law (the legal term is "operation of law") you would not be saying this.

The only reason they get away with all of this is that the people, through their ignorance, have allowed it to happen. If we did our due diligence and knew the law which our nation was founded under, these crooks would be swinging from lamp posts.

One of these days, the people will realize that it is their dependence on the nanny state which has caused their loss of liberty. Unfortunately, by that time it will be too late.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-12   11:45:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: BTP Holdings (#186)

They can't change the code.

Oh, right!

I forgot that Moses brought the tablets down from the mount straight from the big guy himself!

The UCC is no more sacred than the Constitution, The Geneva Accords, or the US Code.

Your beliefs are an act of faith, and there is simply no statutory ban to amending the code. It doesn't exist.

Here is a proposed amendment to the code. No mention of the statutory ban that must be defeated to effect this or any other change!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-12   16:07:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#191. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine, noone222, innieway, Critter, All (#188)

Oh, right!

I forgot that Moses brought the tablets down from the mount straight from the big guy himself!

The UCC is no more sacred than the Constitution, The Geneva Accords, or the US Code.

Your beliefs are an act of faith, and there is simply no statutory ban to amending the code. It doesn't exist.

Here is a proposed amendment to the code. No mention of the statutory ban that must be defeated to effect this or any other change!

You are barking up the wrong tree on this.

Perhaps I should have been more specific. A sitting judge cannot change the code. The judge must rule as the code specifies and the judiciary must uphold the code lest they create havoc in the commercial realm.

The UCC is in fact changed regularly, sometimes concerning matters such as those in the link you posted, which has to do with the electronic age and undertaking contracts over the internet.

What you fail to understand is that there are many provisions in the code which, if changed, would change the way the law has come to be used and seen as a protection for all parties. These provisions can be used to best advantage and I have done so myself previously.

It is factual to say that if you partake of their Babylonian system and are not aware of the rules in the code, you are either a fool or a knave, and will certainly become enslaved, which indeed most are (unbeknownst to them), and much to their lament.

Collection agencies, for one example, operate in the most reprehensible manner (we have something to defeat them as well) and take advantage of people's ignorance to rope them into a contract which they have no right to do.

This is called "the acceptance game." It operates every day in many ways, even among our so-called government, and the only reason we are fooled is because we fail to question authority and accept what they do or give us, like that damn traffic ticket (refuse it and do what the statutes call for).

The basic law is the same in all the states, even in the statutes concerning matters of which we can hold our servants within the strict limits of their authority.

I will say again, as I have already in this thread, the key to this is education. And the only way to control this scheme being used against us is to know the rules and take the necessary steps to protect oneself and terminate or control the legal nexus (of which there are several) so you can make the system work for you and not them.

Anyone who wishes to know what the "necessary steps" are can send me a PM or email me at admin[no spam]btpholdings.com (Replace the [no spam] with @ to get the address correct.) Put UCC Solution or Demand to Cease and Desist Collection Activities (for the collection agencies noted above) in the subject line and I will send more info on either or both subjects.

BTP Holdings  posted on  2006-10-12   20:47:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#192. To: BTP Holdings (#191)

Actually, you have de-mystified the UCC considerably for me and I appreciate it.

The tax rebs and others who rely on it may be correct in their interpretations and applications of same, but, I'm still suspicious of the "silver bullet" approach to dismantling the evil income tax.

And, as you or someone else mentioned, the few who do drop out are of no consequence now, but, if the method "catches on" and the federal reserve finds it's short on deposits from payroll withholding for "income and social security" taxes, then the IRS will make the appropriate changes to restore the "de facto taxation by distraint" system we have today.

As you know federal district courts may err as much as they wish, secure in the knowledge that the SCOTUS will never grant cert to any case that could potentially harm their beloved redistribution of wealth system.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-12 22:18:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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