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Title: Government thugs handcuff children, kill dog during $60 marijuana raid
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Marijuana Policy Project
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Published: Sep 28, 2006
Author: Rob Kampia
Post Date: 2006-10-02 17:19:33 by Neil McIver
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I want to share with you a recent horrifying example of our government's war on marijuana users. Get ready to be outraged. The following is an excerpt from a September 20 article in the "Times Union" in Albany, New York: "A police strike team raided a woman's Prospect Street apartment and handcuffed her children and killed her dog early Tuesday in a $60 pot bust. The woman called it excessive force and a case of mistaken identity, but officers said they stormed the home for a good reason: One of her sons was selling marijuana there. The Police Department's tactical squad knocked down the front door of the upstairs apartment at 110 Prospect St. and flooded into the apartment shortly after 6 a.m. 'I heard a big boom. My first reaction was to jump out of bed. We were trying to find where our kids were at and all of a sudden we had guns in our faces,' said 40-year-old Anita Woodyear, who rents the second-floor flat. During the ensuing chaos, police handcuffed two of the woman's children, Elijah Bradley, 11, and 12-year-old Victoria Perez, and shot at her dog in the kitchen before killing it in the bathroom, Woodyear said. 'That seems like an awful lot of firepower for marijuana,' said Fred Clark of the Schenectady chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. 'That's like spending $125,000 for $5.' Woodyear said she suspected police had intended to search a neighboring home, but had the wrong address on the search warrant. Neighbors said they suspect illicit drugs are dealt at other homes on the block. 'No apology, no "sorry about your dog",' she said. But police said they have no reason to apologize. They said they raided the house because Woodyear's 18-year-old son, Israel M. Bradley, sold three plastic bags of marijuana there for $40 on Sept. 15. They allege he sold two other bags of marijuana in the house for $20 on Aug. 28, they said. In addition, police said Bradley was carrying marijuana in the home on Sept. 1. 'We had the absolute right house. We had the absolute right target,' said Assistant Chief Michael Seber." Visit http://ny.mpp.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=grKMIYPGIqE&b=1773617&ct=2947891 to read the entire article. Who do the police think they're helping by breaking down the front door of a family's home, pointing guns in their faces, murdering their dog, and handcuffing the children? Was this for the good of the children? The mother? The neighborhood? No one wins -- except perhaps for the government thugs who get jacked up on the adrenaline rush that comes from threatening and persecuting others. We have to stop this madness. We have to change the laws so that government thugs no longer have the legal authority to kick in people's doors to find marijuana. If you're as outraged by the above story as I am, please turn your anger into action by helping MPP restore sense to our nation's marijuana policies. Thank you for standing with us in this important fight. Sincerely, Rob Kampia P.S. As I've mentioned in previous alerts, a major philanthropist has committed to match the first $3.5 million that MPP can raise from the rest of the planet in 2006. This means that your donation today will be doubled.
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Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.
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#1. To: Neil McIver (#0)
Stop the insanity.
In addition, police said Bradley was carrying marijuana in the home on Sept. 1. 'We had the absolute right house. We had the absolute right target,' said Assistant Chief Michael Seber." These lying thugs doing this under adminstrative law, in which there is no injured party, is one of the greatest hoaxes perpetrated on people, much similar to the DWI and DUI arrests which is another money making scam.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
I have friends who have very wealthy parents. They bought three houses in a row down in the Whiteacker neighborhood and one day, the cops came looking for drugs. They kicked all doors in destroying handmade hardwood pieces that are not replaceable. The husband refused all screams and orders to let go of his two dogs out of fear for their lives up in his bedroom, and when they brutally grabbed up the animals and flung them into on of the vehicles there, they beat him for not complying. His wife was left on the back porch in handcuffs and leg irons in the November chill wearing a thin nightgown for several hours. She also had a bag over her head. This couple was released after this happened and had to get some locksmiths out to the house the next day o make it securely lockable again. The cops destroyed allot of their stuff in the process of serving this warrant. They searched all three houses frantically, and you know what? No drugs. Seems like an informant jealous of them who had somehow felt slighted by them had turned them in. They are now suing the crap out of the city and the neighborhood is still pissed by this two years after the fact. I'm sad this country has become like this, and I definitely do not in anyway shape or form like or trust the police and their masters.
Hell of a story, and it will only get worse; THIS IS WHAT COMES OF LIVING IN THE FEDERAL DISTRICT STATE. And if you do not know what I mean, well, you should by now, because there is no control on this type of behavior in the Federal Zone.
The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.
So just for fun: Did they find any weed - or not??
you know what? as tragic as this is, it's the kind of thing that has to happen a lot more in order for people to get it. most americans have no clue and won't be concerned in the least until they themselves or someone they know/love are targeted. most americans take the attitude that those victimized deserved it for some reason or another.
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGAINST PROHIBITION STOP THIS GESTAPO MADNESS!!!!!
Sweet land of liberty bump
#2. To: Neil McIver (#0)
But police said they have no reason to apologize. They said they raided the house because Woodyear's 18-year-old son, Israel M. Bradley, sold three plastic bags of marijuana there for $40 on Sept. 15. They allege he sold two other bags of marijuana in the house for $20 on Aug. 28, they said.
#3. To: Neil McIver (#0)
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#4. To: Neil McIver, lodwick, BTP Holdings, Ferret Mike, angle, mehtable, RickyJ, all (#0)
#5. To: Neil McIver (#0)
#6. To: Ferret Mike, Neil McIver, Jethro Tull, IndieTx (#3)
#7. To: Neil McIver, *LEAP*, JETHRO TULL (#0)
***LEAP***
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford
#8. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
IF ANYONE KICKS IN MY DOOR, THEY WILL DIE because I will be in fear of my life, since I have done nothing wrong, and will assume any intruder to be invaders whether they yell "police" or not. ALL OF THEM. PERIOD. No more PoliceState. I've drawn my line in the sand and it's what we all need to do.
***LEAP***
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford
#9. To: IndieTX (#7)
The asses that pose as cops today is scary. These stormtroopers need to be shot. Period.
#10. To: Neil McIver (#0)
Isn't $40 worth of pot like, two joints these days? Back when I was in high school we called one ounce a "lid" and it cost $15. $20 for the rare stuff.
"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)
#11. To: IndieTX (#7)
Thinking back to that article posted a day or so ago wherein the police officer was talking about responding to a MASSIVE amount of alcohol related violent incidents and ZERO where marijuana is involved, here is a headline we.re not likely to see: KNIFE FIGHT BREAKS OUT AT LOCAL POT PARTY. In any case, illegal drugs remain illegal, IMHO, because of the money that is being made by keeping them illegal. Remember Mena, AK.
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#12. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
Thus far, you appear to have no problems with those private groups that train the cops.
I definitely do not in anyway shape or form like or trust the police and their masters.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
#13. To: YertleTurtle (#10)
Have you ever heard the term "L7"?
Isn't $40 worth of pot like, two joints these days?
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#14. To: YertleTurtle (#10)
And a new Hudson was what, $2,150? Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Back when I was in high school we called one ounce a "lid" and it cost $15.
The faster the Aryan Nation mob at Freedom4um are caged and chained, the better off we'll be. I’ll cheering when they are forced to behave. - Aaron
#15. To: Dakmar (#13)
No, I don't have a clue. And we drove Lasalles, not Hudsons. I had a 1915 REO Speedwagon myself.
Have you ever heard the term "L7"?
"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)
#16. To: Neil McIver (#0)
I had a conversation with my wife last week about when I could say to our kids: "Kids, never trust a cop." We agreed that 13 was about right, maybe even earlier. Old enough to see the dichotomy between what people say and what they do, and old enough to keep their mouths shut.
Who do the police think they're helping by breaking down the front door of a family's home, pointing guns in their faces, murdering their dog, and handcuffing the children? Was this for the good of the children? The mother? The neighborhood?
"GM is not a car company, it's a bank that gives free cars to its customers when they take out a loan."--Magorn.
#17. To: Ferret Mike (#3)
We've all got better odds of winning the "Cop Lottery" than the official one.
They are now suing the crap out of the city and the neighborhood is still pissed by this two years after the fact.
"GM is not a car company, it's a bank that gives free cars to its customers when they take out a loan."--Magorn.
#18. To: christine (#6)
You've been there bump Too true.
you know what? as tragic as this is, it's the kind of thing that has to happen a lot more in order for people to get it. most americans have no clue and won't be concerned in the least until they themselves or someone they know/love are targeted. most americans take the attitude that those victimized deserved it for some reason or another
#19. To: Indrid Cold (#16)
my, how things have changed. what happened to the motto "to protect and serve?" now we have to fear the cops more than some common street thugs.
I had a conversation with my wife last week about when I could say to our kids: "Kids, never trust a cop." We agreed that 13 was about right, maybe even earlier.
#20. To: christine (#19)
Aye, Blossom, that we do. Whenever a (relatively) innocent person gets roughed up, has property siezed or destroyed, the rest of us go whistling past the graveyard. We all have our line in the sand, but we'll be defending that line alone. I have *seriously* thought about selling "government insurance", to replace lost income or damages in case the city, state, or feds decide to screw with you one day.
my, how things have changed. what happened to the motto "to protect and serve?" now we have to fear the cops more than some common street thugs.
"GM is not a car company, it's a bank that gives free cars to its customers when they take out a loan."--Magorn.
#21. To: BTP Holdings (#2)
And speaking of scams--follow me here-- A rational and reasonable action for an American president to take on 09/12 would have been to send the Army, National Guard, and so forth to the borders and lock this country down. Of course, that didn't happen (thus proving, BTW and IHMO, that Bush's concern with Homeland Security was and remains with Israel). The Big Business Elite wants the illegal invasion to continue as it is a source of cheap labor with the Elite reaping the benefits while the America is saddled and mortgaged with the costs thereof. Zionists want the illegal invasion to continue because it destabilizes and fractionates American culture and political consensus. Perhaps another factor?: Locking down the border would also GREATLY and immediately impede the importation of illegal drugs. HHMM.
another money making scam
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#22. To: Indrid Cold (#16)
The earlier the better. It depends on the child. They also need to be taught that the government is in the business of lies. Kids are taught to trust the wrong people and to mistrust their own families.
I had a conversation with my wife last week about when I could say to our kids: "Kids, never trust a cop."
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
#23. To: christine (#19)
Yesterday I was driving down the highway when I spotted a police car ahead on the left side of the road, and the cop was walking onto the highway waving his arms for me to stop. Turned out he was stopping all traffic to allow a wire, maybe a phone or cable line, to be raised over the highway. But the site of a cop wanting you to stop really gets the heart pumping. Am I "speeding" or committing some other kind of capital crime? It should not be like that.
what happened to the motto "to protect and serve?" now we have to fear the cops more than some common street thugs.
#24. To: AngelSpawn (#22)
Early enough to be useful, late enough so they keep their mouths shut and they don't get taken away by concerned social workers.
The earlier the better. It depends on the child. They also need to be taught that the government is in the business of lies.
"GM is not a car company, it's a bank that gives free cars to its customers when they take out a loan."--Magorn.
#25. To: Neil McIver (#23)
i *know* the feeling.
#26. To: Indrid Cold (#24)
Agreed. That's why I qualified with "depends on the child". Some kids at 10 are more mature than some adults will ever hope to be.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
#27. To: AngelSpawn (#12) (Edited)
Gee A.Spawn, you don't listen well, do you? The police get training from various groups. I was in a Special Forces Guard unit, and my team sergeant was the head investigator for the Salt lake City D.A.'s office. We also had so many cops in my unit, it is the only time I have seen troopers who take off their BDU jackets to say work during I.G. time and have concealed weapons all over them. I think I know something about what you talk about. I know to at times they get training from someone and don't think much of the person or the training. Which is why I pointed out to you that it is one thing to train, another for the horse who was led to water to drink of it as whomever brought them there like. I also was trained in Phase one of the S.F.Q.C. and had two I.D.F. Majors in the barracks with me at Camp Makall. I particularly liked Major Cohen, and didn't want any truck with the other one. We also had officers from Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia. I have heard much from Cohen about how the I.D.F. does things compared to how he observed the U.S. Army operate, and I just do not get worked up like you do about blocks of training that exist in a system where law enforcement officers receive lots of training of all kinds any more then some of the silly SOPs the I.D.F. use I heard about from the good Major impressed me. Now I realize you are talking here of your pet bogeyman, so enjoy the heck out of yourself vilifying anyone you want. But I have a different viewpoint, O.K? And that is not going to change, because even if the training is very bad in terms of protecting Constitutional rights and in using say profiling techniques I do not believe in, I look at the entire organization being trained and the people in it. I note what is good about a law enforcement agency, and what is bad. I do not have your ax to grind, and I absolutely, positively do not want it either. I don't even dislike you, and really, you don't cause a ripple in my existence, but you should lighten up. Because my 'telling' reaction - as you put it - only exhibits my exasperation with you. I am perfectly willing to be sociable and discuss anything with anyone here. But not if they are going to come at me with an ax to grind and a chip on their damn shoulder. I hope this gives you the reality check you need, because now I have done so twice, this time in far more detail. And it is therefore the last time I cover this territory with you. Now you have a great evening, you hear? ;-)
"Thus far, you appear to have no problems with those private groups that train the cops."
#28. To: Ferret Mike (#27)
So I should just shut up and be tolerant of your differing viewpoint as your beloved ADL and its sibling JINSA helps to brainwash cops about who and who not to bust? Don't count on my silence. The feet of faux progressives like yourself need to be held to the fire as much as the feet of faux conservatives. I note what is good about a law enforcement agency "Law enforcement" is the defintion of tyranny. Peace officers are what exist in a state of Liberty.
I have a different viewpoint, O.K?
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
#29. To: AngelSpawn (#28) (Edited)
ROTFLMFAO! Exactly, they are public servants, and Peace officer works better for me too. I do not like the amount of people who are incarcerated, not the use of the Grand Jury system to intimidate and push around political activists. I do not like the tactics they use to stifle and thwart demonstrations and other acts of dissent either. Now as far as "brainwashed" vs. "training," I would prefer them to stick to giving their blocks of training using the standard format of 'task, condition, and standard, as they use much the same BTMS style of training I was taught how to do my teaching in the military with. You overstate yourself here, as "brainwashing," or the use of 'snapping' technique and other ways to change a person's outlook on life and modus of thinking - not to mention how much thinking they do for themselves - is a different thing. And if a law enforcement agency is in the business of molding people after their own image, it is going to be a process longer, more involved and sophisticated then blocks of instruction an out of country entity gives. And as far as your loaded use of the word, "beloved;" you are always invited to stop the fool posturing, Gertrude. I don't "belove" any entity like that. As with anything else, I not the good and bad aspects of any organization from them, to any I have had dealings with, or belonged to. You are a feisty one, aren't you? Thanks for the amusement, tiger, go get them. rah rah rah.
#30. To: richard9151, innieway, Critter, All (#4) (Edited)
It is also what comes of living in a tyranny based on the Law Merchant (UCC) and the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution. Once you sign on the dotted line, for anything, especially a SSN, you are presumed to be a beneficiary of the government program or licensing scheme. I'll make it simple. The government is operating the Treasury account you created when you applied for that SSN. We have a court case which states this but I cannot locate the cite just now. The state operates under a presumption that you, the live man, are the surety for the fiction of law, or juristic person, which they have created for you by and through those applications for birth registration, SSN, drivers license, etc. Since the corporate state is a fiction of law, it cannot communicate with a live man, and this is the same for other fictions. That is why these fictions have attorneys to represent them in court proceedings. If you partake of the commercial world you are in their fictional Babylonian system. We have the solution to this scheme and it is not a silver bullet in and of itself. We know that the common law is a part of it, so we use it and stay out of their administrative law Babylonian jurisdiction. The Habeas Corpus works in the common law. In their fictional corporate state, Bush has just thrown it on the trash heap of history. But the key to the commercial scheme is to take control of your fictional entity, sometimes called the Strawman. And we do that with a filing in the UCC and by placing in that filing a Security Agreement which gives us the Priority over any and all claimants, and also makes us the Secured Party in any and all property which we list in that UCC contract. Not to mention, one of the benefits of this is that we have an Indemnity Bond in that contract which allows us to discharge any debts or claims made against the Strawman in the public sector, which includes public utilities, banks, credit cards and any gov't agency or entity. I've used this process and it works, even with the IRS. All they need, and what we give them, is a paper, a negotiable instrument, which they use to zero the account. The sad part is that they are making these claims in a fraudulent manner. We have no loss in this instance and the debt is assigned back to the original obligor of the currency, the USG. They created the monster, so now let them live with it. A simple way to explain this is since the bankruptcy of the U.S. in 1933 and the confiscation of gold as money of account, they have succeeded in doing something which was never possible under the Apportionment Clause of the U.S. Constitution. They have transferred the national debt to the people by and through the use of Federal Reserve Notes. Limited liability is one of the benefits you are presumed to receive from this system which has been foisted on the people. But, when you use the slave owners note to purchase something, the slave owner still maintains an interest in the property. You have possession and use and that is all. When you register that property, you pledge it to the state and they then use it as collateral to get credit from the bankers to operate. They profit from tricking you into the registration scheme whereby you waive your God-given unalienable rights under the contract. So, next time you get pulled over for speeding, remember that the license and registration gives them subject matter jurisdiction and you are screwed. For an application for a UCC-1 Financing Statement/Security Agreement/Indemnity Bond Click Here. But be aware that the address for me in there is old since I have recently moved. If anyone is really interested in this, please send me a PM and I will give you the new address. Sorry, richard, but, as I see it, what you propose about a constitutional amendment is a distraction and diversion which will waste time and resources in our fight to take back this country and put the rule of law back in the hands of the people. The Federal Districts exist as an overlay, but are only lawful if you enter their jurisdiction. The trick is to stay out of them if at all possible since you have no rights there. But, the U.S. District Courts do exist for a lawful purpose and that is to settle disputes between parties in different states or between citizens and other government entities. What we need to ask ourselves is if we wish to claim to be a 14th Amendment civil rights citizen. There are advantages but then again, there are disadvantages as well. Sometimes we have no choice since the state courts are so utterly corrupt at the lower levels. Not always, but for the most part. As an example, we have a judge here in a nearby county who was asked, "Why is there so much injustice in the courts?" He answered without hesitation, "Because the people allow it." So it goes for all levels of government. "Now more than ever before, the people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt, it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption. If it be intelligent, brave, and pure, it is because the people demand these high qualities to represent them in the national legislature." James Garfield
THIS IS WHAT COMES OF LIVING IN THE FEDERAL DISTRICT STATE. And if you do not know what I mean, well, you should by now, because there is no control on this type of behavior in the Federal Zone.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#31. To: Ferret Mike, Cynicom, christine, robin, Tauzero, Eoghan, BTP Holdings, jessejane, Lady X (#29)
The ADL is in the business of political indoctrination, which blends with brainwashing in today's LE environment. I suspect that your "teaching in the military" makes you as unable to use critical thinking in this matter as the cops and their ADL/JINSA trainers. And as far as your loaded use of the word, "beloved;" you are always invited to stop the fool posturing, Gertrude. I don't "belove" any entity like that. As you appear incapable of discussing this topic without resorting to outright flames and smears, you'll excuse me if I still don't believe or trust your word. You have yet to be able to answer a simple yes or no question on the matter of the ADL training the agents of tyranny. Note to those flagged: Please see referenced post. It's rather, um, enlightening.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
#32. To: Ferret Mike, AngelSpawn (#29) (Edited)
Ah, but it is. Most of those who come to the ranks of the police now have previous training in the military. So it is much more extensive than many would be led to believe. Hence, the militarization of out police, which is a very bad sign of the tyranny we are suffering.
And if a law enforcement agency is in the business of molding people after their own image, it is going to be a process longer, more involved and sophisticated then blocks of instruction an out of country entity gives.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#33. To: BTP Holdings (#32)
The military has made great efforts in brainwashing, mind control and such. They'd be like putty in the hands of the ADL and JINSA.
Most of those who come to the ranks of the police now have previous training in the military.
The ADL is training the New Gestapo
#34. To: BTP Holdings, jessejane, wbales, dakmar, richard9151 (#30)
ping to BTP's post above. if i didn't misunderstand, this is some of what i think richard was trying to explain.
#35. To: christine, jessejane (#34)
Thanks Christine... I'm going to mark for later reading... I want to take my time to understand all of this.....
ping to BTP's post above. if i didn't misunderstand, this is some of what i think richard was trying to explain.
"Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries." ~~Douglas Casey - 1992
#36. To: Ferret Mike, AngelSpawn (#29) (Edited)
Once when I was pulled over for the private property tags on my pick up, the trooper said to me, "It looks like you've put a lot of effort into this, but we are told what you are doing is not proper." My question to him was, "Who is telling you that?" I got no answer. To me, it sounds much like the old proverb, "Shit rolls downhill." The word came from "above" or higher up in the chain of command. So, I really don't blame these guys so much since they are continually beaten into the mold which their traitorous superiors wish them to be. But, as with all of the rest of us out here, they have a duty to know the law, ALL OF IT, but they are only trained in enforcement and procedure. And they have failed in that duty to us, which means we must necessarily be well versed in the law ourselves. To not be so versed is a fools errand. One clue, you can bet your ass that it is lawyers, i.e. the Attorney General's office, who are doing the telling way up the line, out of sight to everyone but the top commanders. BTW, the State Police are the military occupation troops and enforcers of the Bankruptcy of 1933. Take a look at the dates of formation of those various agencies and you will see they all were formed in the mid- to late-1930s.
And if a law enforcement agency is in the business of molding people after their own image, it is going to be a process longer, more involved and sophisticated then blocks of instruction an out of country entity gives.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#37. To: BTP Holdings, christine, richard9151 (#30)
Somehow I missed that. I'd like to read the exact wording of Richard's proposed amendment. Where is it?
Sorry, richard, but, as I see it, what you propose about a constitutional amendment
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#38. To: BTP Holdings (#36)
Did he write you a ticket or was there just a constitutional debate?
Once when I was pulled over for the private property tags on my pick up, the trooper said to me, "It looks like you've put a lot of effort into this, but we are told what you are doing is not proper."
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#39. To: wbales (#37)
Click on his screen name and see his home page.
Where is it?
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#40. To: wbales (#37)
on his homepage
#41. To: BTP Holdings (#36)
Duty to know the law? All of it? What a hoot! Try this sometime: Speak with a judge, or a police officer, or a government worker, or a politician, or a lawyer, or anyone else for that matter and simply ask them how many laws there are on the books. They can't tell you. Nobody can. "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" the jackbooted thugs will mindlessly parrot, but not one of them can tell you how many laws are on the books that you have no right to be ignorant of.
But, as with all of the rest of us out here, they have a duty to know the law, ALL OF IT, but they are only trained in enforcement and procedure. And they have failed in that duty to us, which means we must necessarily be well versed in the law ourselves. To not be so versed is a fools errand.
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