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Title: Government thugs handcuff children, kill dog during $60 marijuana raid
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Published: Sep 28, 2006
Author: Rob Kampia
Post Date: 2006-10-02 17:19:33 by Neil McIver
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I want to share with you a recent horrifying example of our government's war on marijuana users. Get ready to be outraged. The following is an excerpt from a September 20 article in the "Times Union" in Albany, New York: "A police strike team raided a woman's Prospect Street apartment and handcuffed her children and killed her dog early Tuesday in a $60 pot bust. The woman called it excessive force and a case of mistaken identity, but officers said they stormed the home for a good reason: One of her sons was selling marijuana there. The Police Department's tactical squad knocked down the front door of the upstairs apartment at 110 Prospect St. and flooded into the apartment shortly after 6 a.m. 'I heard a big boom. My first reaction was to jump out of bed. We were trying to find where our kids were at and all of a sudden we had guns in our faces,' said 40-year-old Anita Woodyear, who rents the second-floor flat. During the ensuing chaos, police handcuffed two of the woman's children, Elijah Bradley, 11, and 12-year-old Victoria Perez, and shot at her dog in the kitchen before killing it in the bathroom, Woodyear said. 'That seems like an awful lot of firepower for marijuana,' said Fred Clark of the Schenectady chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People. 'That's like spending $125,000 for $5.' Woodyear said she suspected police had intended to search a neighboring home, but had the wrong address on the search warrant. Neighbors said they suspect illicit drugs are dealt at other homes on the block. 'No apology, no "sorry about your dog",' she said. But police said they have no reason to apologize. They said they raided the house because Woodyear's 18-year-old son, Israel M. Bradley, sold three plastic bags of marijuana there for $40 on Sept. 15. They allege he sold two other bags of marijuana in the house for $20 on Aug. 28, they said. In addition, police said Bradley was carrying marijuana in the home on Sept. 1. 'We had the absolute right house. We had the absolute right target,' said Assistant Chief Michael Seber." Visit http://ny.mpp.org/site/apps/nl/content2.asp?c=grKMIYPGIqE&b=1773617&ct=2947891 to read the entire article. Who do the police think they're helping by breaking down the front door of a family's home, pointing guns in their faces, murdering their dog, and handcuffing the children? Was this for the good of the children? The mother? The neighborhood? No one wins -- except perhaps for the government thugs who get jacked up on the adrenaline rush that comes from threatening and persecuting others. We have to stop this madness. We have to change the laws so that government thugs no longer have the legal authority to kick in people's doors to find marijuana. If you're as outraged by the above story as I am, please turn your anger into action by helping MPP restore sense to our nation's marijuana policies. Thank you for standing with us in this important fight. Sincerely, Rob Kampia P.S. As I've mentioned in previous alerts, a major philanthropist has committed to match the first $3.5 million that MPP can raise from the rest of the planet in 2006. This means that your donation today will be doubled.
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Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.
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#108. To: SKYDRIFTER (#94)
Be gentle...richard is offering us salvation from the safety of Mexico City. I for one am grateful for his wisdom :)
LOL!
#109. To: christine (#88)
i know a few others who are in that race :P
***LEAP***
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford
#110. To: christine (#106)
christine walked up behind me, stuck a pair of .38's in my back THEN SHE PULLED OUT A GUN!" ;)
...i, for one, want to insure that i have everything possible to defend myself....
#111. To: HOUNDDAWG (#110)
One of the great mysteries I'm puzzled about these Republicans of the Mark Foley variety; why do they prefer to do the nasty with a partner with no rack, then send them off to Iraq? How is that raq preferable to knowing in fullness the other sort of rack? Not only do I not understand this, I profoundly never want to. ;-)
"christine walked up behind me, stuck a pair of .38's in my back THEN SHE PULLED OUT A GUN!"
#112. To: christine. everyone here (#106)
Locked & loaded bump.
#113. To: HOUNDDAWG. christine (#110)
What can I say? She does have formidable firepower...for sure. .45ACP BUMP!
christine walked up behind me, stuck a pair of .38's in my back THEN SHE PULLED OUT A GUN!" ;)
#114. To: Neil McIver (#0)
Perhaps they should just go straight to the Janet Reno method.
#115. To: christine (#106)
Amen to that!
***LEAP***
"I tell you, freedom and human rights in America are doomed. The U.S. Government will lead the American people, and the West in general, into an unbearable hell and choking life.
-- Osama bin Laden
"A prohibition law strikes at the very principles upon which our govt was founded."
- Lincoln
All our liberties are due to men who, when their conscience has compelled them, have broken the laws of the land.
--William K Clifford
#116. To: Neil McIver, BTP Holdings, wbales, Tausero, christine, jessejane, RickyJ, mehtable, Zoroaster, robin, Eoghan, tom007, Jethro Tull, lodwick, angel, AngelSpawn, max, Phant2000, range, all (#84)
Please read number 84 first, please, and now I want to take this a little further on, and show you another way that George Bush could turn things around, in a heart beat. As you read this, remember what the President of Iran told us; that representatives of the United States government have been meeting with the leaders of the insurrection, arming them, and funding them, thus guarenteeing that a civil war would occur. I just posted a new post; Congress sets aside 20M to celebrate wars end, from AP Now, why would they do that? And, why will the Democracts NOT jump on the bank wagon against the war? Do they know something.... that you don¨t know? Bet on it. Here is a solution to the war, and it accomplishes exactly what I outlined in number 84. Already being talked about in Bagdad is the possibility of ending the sectarian violence by agreeing to partion Iran; that would be for the Shites, Kurds, and whoever the third faction is. But here is the rest of the story; you will be told, in only one or two news account, that a compromise has been reached whereby all Iraqi people will have access to Bagdad, but because of sectarian violence, Bagdad will be under the direct control of the Iraqi parliment (or whatever) WHICH WILL HAVE EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION OVER BAGDAD. It will then be explained that the three separate sections of Iraq will now be legally separate (or words to that effect), with their own school systems, own laws, own courts, and own police, etc. etc. It will also be explained that, in order to benefit the Iraqi people in general, BAGDAD WILL HAVE CONTROL OVER ALL NATURAL RESOURCES. Bingo, control of the oil. And, the Iraqi people, now split up, will no longer be able to resist what is going on. If this occurs before the election, the election will be a slam dunk for the Repub., the Dems do not look bad because they never came out against the war, and.... it paves the way for the war in Iran. I mean, who is going to argue with George Bush, when he SO obviously knows what he is doing. Right? And good-bye 9/11 problems. Who wants to hear that nonsense now when we are winning the war on terror! Oh, and the other thing that you are going to be told is how fortunate are the Iraqis, because they now have a Constitution which is modeled, more or less, after that greatest of all documents, the US Constitution. Lucky people.
The Constitution is alive and quite well, thank you,
The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.
#117. To: HOUNDDAWG, Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, mehitable, christine, Zipporah, Diana, rowdee, ruthie (#99)
Absolutely correct, and if you care to examine the time frame shown, it is 4 years. I have even seen over-turns that were done after 15 years, but that is very rare. I have never seen a case that has lasted for 187 years be over- turned, and I never will; nor will I ever see a case that is 105 years old be over-turned. A case that is this old, and which has been sited in deciding 100s of other cases, is something that is set in concrete; if it were over-turned, then the ripple effect down through all of the other cases that were decided on this case would be wondrous indeed to observe. Ain´t gonna happen; can not happen, is an impossibility.
All legal precedents are subject to being overturned or modified
The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.
#118. To: Jethro Tull (#101)
Arrestd for what? Littering? Drunk driving? Armed robbery? Incest? A persons got to know, you know.
Also, please show this forum where such a defense has achieved success.
The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.
#119. To: wbales (#104)
Sorry; it was Jethro speaking TO you.
Direct me to that specific language/post.
The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.
#120. To: richard9151, Jethro Tull (#117)
It wasn't that many years ago that an ART.3 judge ruled that Art 1 sec 10 of the constitution was "superfluous". Despite the clear constitutional mandate that "no state shall make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts", which by the way was not an afterthought because banker mischief was well known to the founders, real money is gone and debt paper has taken its place. The simple truth is, a judge may dismantle any protection you believe you have, the appeals court will uphold it and the SCOTUS will deny certiorari, and the media will paint you as a kook for having believed so strongly that the system is somehow obligated to uphold archaic laws because you invoked them.
I have never seen a case that has lasted for 187 years be over- turned, and I never will; nor will I ever see a case that is 105 years old be over-turned.
#121. To: HOUNDDAWG (#110)
34s :P
There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman
#122. To: richard9151 (#117) (Edited)
precisely. my point to you in prior posts. why is it, then, that you believe the solution is seeking the change of a few words of the 17th amendment?
A case that is this old, and which has been sited in deciding 100s of other cases, is something that is set in concrete; if it were over- turned, then the ripple effect down through all of the other cases that were decided on this case would be wondrous indeed to observe. Ain´t gonna happen; can not happen, is an impossibility.
There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman
#123. To: richard9151 (#92)
Friend, you'd probably have a lot better luck attempting to educate folks about what obviously to you is an important topic. Quite bluntly and to the point, IMO you'd attract a lot more folks if you didn't try to put the entire enclyclopedia in a single post. It's brain overload, and a wasted way to get folks really to think about and ponder over what you've taken the time to write. Personally, I believe you'd get a lot further down the pike by making a serialization of your project. Even maintain an index.........and lead folks into your project in a methodical way...one that helps them see the light step by step, or one room or container after another.....but not all at once. But this bullshit of trying to put the entire National Archives into a single posting won't cut it. There was another fella at tos2 that had an obsession on one subject--that's all he ever was concerned about. He'd get really frustrated that others just didn't jump thru hoops to go thru his posts. I often wonder if he didn't bust a gasket or something.......
#124. To: HOUNDDAWG (#99)
Goodness....you're just a walking, talking mini-cyclopedia! :) Interesting, too.
#125. To: richard9151 (#116)
Hate to burst your bubble there, richard9151...but anyone deciding anything in BagHdad about doing anything by partitioning IRAN is so full of shit! They just had to pull out a battalion of the iraqi police force because they were in cahoots with militia death squads. That means that our soldiers, and a large number of them, will be redirected into BagHdad to dodge bullets, death squads, suicide bombers as this large battalion of iraqi police have to be retrained and reconditioned and pass all sorts of loyalty tests before they can be of service---there is so way in hell they're gonna be able to get those religious sects or their militias to think about partitioning IRAN.
Already being talked about in Bagdad is the possibility of ending the sectarian violence by agreeing to partion Iran; that would be for the Shites, Kurds, and whoever the third faction is.
#126. To: richard9151 (#116)
Oh yeah.....I wanted to mention something about your constitutional amendment. Your chances of geting congresscowards to go along with that are about zippo. And if you called for a constititional convention, I, for one, would fight you every step of the way. The minute a concon is called, it is all over for sure. Positively. Overnight.
#127. To: christine (#121)
I thought you said 38s!
34s :P
#128. To: rowdee (#124)
Thanks. I grew up in Norfolk, VA, in the shadow of Fortress Monroe. It also happens to be in immediate proximity to the location where the ironclads, the USS Monitor and the CSS Virginia (Merrimack) did battle in Hampton Roads. The Civil War was a focus of interest of mine as a kid, and Gettysburg is still my favorite getaway spot. I live in Delaware now, near the fort on Pea Patch Island that served as a prison for captured Confederates. One of them was my great great uncle who fought with the 5th North Carolina and was captured at The Battle Of The Stone Wall at Gettysburg. He and 2,435 others, mostly malaria victims are buried in a mass grave across the river in New Jersey in Finn's Point National Cemetery. This is the same cemetery where Andrew Cunanan murdered the caretaker and stole his truck, then drove to FLA to murder fashion designer Gianni Versace. I visit this mass grave often. It's well maintained (including the display of crisp Confederate flags on the four corners of the gravesite) by the Fort Delaware Society. it's a shame that such a solemn place has to carry the memory of the murdering psycho gay prostitute.
#129. To: rowdee (#127)
that was Cheri :P ( . )( . )
There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman
#130. To: rowdee (#126)
Can you imagine Ted Kennedy and Diane Feinstein rewriting the constitution?
And if you called for a constititional convention, I, for one, would fight you every step of the way. The minute a concon is called, it is all over for sure. Positively. Overnight.
#131. To: christine (#129)
( . )( . ) That's more like it them.
#132. To: HOUNDDAWG (#130)
Nope ... but ignoring it looks easy enough for them !
Can you imagine Ted Kennedy and Diane Feinstein rewriting the constitution?
"consensus facit legem"
"consensus makes the law"
#133. To: noone222 (#132)
Nothing I can add to that.
Nope ... but ignoring it looks easy enough for them !
#134. To: lodwick (#131)
you don't miss a trick, do ya? ;)
There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman
#135. To: christine. (#134)
I'm striking this entire post - let's just say that you're beautiful, and leave it there.
you don't miss a trick, do ya? ;)
I just try to be an honest, faithful reporter of the way it they are here.
#136. To: HOUNDDAWG (#128)
Oh, criminy crickets! Dawg! My great grandfather was captured trying to get to Vicksburg after the Battle of Big Black River. He and a thousand or so other fellas wound up being shipped to Ft. Morton (I believe that was the name) up in Indiana or Illinois, but then shipped onward to Ft. Delaware. GGPa was then sent to Point Lookout where he served the rest of his captivity til an exchange Christmas Eve or Christmas Day....if memory serves me correctly, he was in the last batches of prisoner exchanges--they quit doing it. I've got copies of his papers going thru various camps, and what he was released with. I've often thought of how bitterly cold it must have been for some of them southern boys up there on the Chesapeake....bitter Atlantic winds. I believe I read where they had mass graves, too.
#137. To: christine (#129)
And so it was.......have you heard from her lately?
#138. To: christine, Neil McIver, BTP Holdings, Skydrifter, Jethro Tull, lodwick, aristeides (#121)
In his assertion that there are two federal governments because the constitution is inapplicable to the District of Columbia thereby allowing Congress to form and run a "second" federal government independant of the US Constitution, the case that Richard is horribly mis-interpreting is Downes vs. Bidwell. http://www.vlex.us/caselaw/U-S-Supreme-Court/Downes-v-Bidwell-182-U-S-244- 1901/2100-20036224%2C01.html This case involved duties on a businessman importing oranges from the newly acquired terriotory (from the Spanish-American War). The importer maintained that the dutied violated the US Const. requiring duties between states to be uniform and that Puerto Rico was included in this protection as a newly acquired territory. In a 5-4 decision, he lost and had to pay the 15%. The main issue was whether territories are subject to the constitution. Richard relies heavily on the DISSENT of Justice Harlan: "...we are now informed that Congress possesses powers outside of the Constitution, and may deal with new territory, acquired by treaty or conquest, in the same manner as other nations have been accustomed to act with respect to territories acquired by them. In my opinion, Congress has no existence and can exercise no authority outside of the Constitution. Still less is it true that Congress can deal with new territories just as other nations have done or may do with their new territories. This nation is under the control of a written constitution, the supreme law of the land and the only source of the powers which our government, or any branch or officer of it, may exert at any time or at any place. Monarchical and despotic governments, unrestrained by written constitutions, may do with newly acquired territories what this government may not do consistently with our fundamental law. To say otherwise is to concede that Congress may, by action taken outside of the Constitution, engraft upon our republican institutions a colonial system such as exists under monarchical governments. Surely such a result was never contemplated by the fathers of the Constitution. ... " Harlan is talking about NEWLY acquired territories (such as Puerto Rico in the instant case) and those that may be ACQUIRED at some future time. Harlan IS NOT talking about DC. His concern was that because the majority held that Congress could in effect apply duties to a newly acquired territory, Congress could, in theory, create a new, second federal government independent of the US Constitutional umbrella in newly acquired territories. Further, from Justice Gray's concurrence: " ... The cases now before the court do not touch the authority of the United States over the territories in the strict and technical sense, being those which lie within the United States, as bounded by the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans, the Dominion of Canada and the Republic of Mexico, and the territories of Alaska and Hawaii; but they relate to territory in the broader sense, acquired by the United States by war with a foreign state. ..." The majority opinion CLEARLY omits the District of Columbia from consideration and effect from the Court's holding. And here is succinctly what absolutely destroys Richard's premise: " ... It may be added in this connection, that to put at rest all doubts regarding the applicability of the Constitution to the District of Columbia, Congress by the act of February 21, 1871 (16 Stat. at L. 419, 426, chap. 62, 34), specifically extended the Constitution and laws of the United States to this District. ... " Richard relies on a complete mis-interpretation of a DISSENT in a Supreme Court Case intertwined with fantastic religious inferrences to arrive at an abjectly wrong conclusion.
In 1947, the UN created a perpetual war and named it Israel.
#139. To: HOUNDDAWG (#130)
They would be poster children in my battle against a concon==right along side the liar in chief and cheney! The image is enough to cause indigestion at the least, and outright rebellion in the long run! GAds......
#140. To: wbales (#138)
my head is spinning. KISS ;)
There is no week nor day nor hour when tyranny may not enter upon this country - if the people lose their confidence in themselves - and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance." - Walt Whitman
#141. To: AngelSpawn, Indrid Cold (#26)
A buddy of mine, when his daughter was 5 or 6, a state trooper came to the house. She said to the cop, "Are you here to arrest my Daddy? Cause if you are, I'll kick your ass." Now that is brassy. LOL
That's why I qualified with "depends on the child". Some kids at 10 are more mature than some adults will ever hope to be.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#142. To: wbales (#138) (Edited)
Darn good bit of research. I did not get to go in to look at that case, but if I did, I would jump on the fact that the dissenting opinion does not hold sway. You can find some good stuff in the disenting opinions at times, but they have no validity in the case itself and how the precedent may be applied in the future. That falls to the majority opinion. BTW, I have some good research here concerning what I stated previously about the jurisdictional issue. That is what I drew from in my post. It is factual to say that there are two parallel jurisdictions and that confusion over this is where much of the tyranny arises. I knew something was fishy about richard's carrying on over this. It is as I said, all of it was a distraction to pull people and resources away from what needs to be addressed. And that phony issue is not it. Fact is, those separate jurisdictions is how everything was set up, and the abuse of that is where the problem lies. People need to be knowledgable of this in order to fight the tyranny.
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#143. To: rowdee (#139)
The image is enough to cause indigestion at the least, and outright rebellion in the long run! GAds...... I agree completely.
They would be poster children in my battle against a concon==right along side the liar in chief and cheney!
#144. To: richard9151, wbales, christine (#79)
Not hardly. This cite refers to the specific federal jurisdiction of the territories and posessions of the United States. You take this cite above out of context in relation to the entire opinion of the court in the instant case. From Justice Frankfurter, A 'foreign country' in which the United States has no territorial control does not bear the same relation to the United States as a 'foreign country' in which the United States does have the territorial control that it has in the air base in Newfoundland. Hence, the term "possessions" applies to the federal 'state' jurisdiction, and NOT to that of the several states. The "canon of construction" in the part of the cite above refers to the intent of Congress to apply legislation to the federal 'state' or to the several 'states', and when used in legislation the word 'state' can have these two distinct meanings. THE CONGRESSIONAL RESAERCH SERVICE AFFIRMS THIS. And the only way to know what the intent of Congress is in these instances is to read the entire law and determine in which context the word 'state' is being used. No one ever said there was a shadow government, except for you. But we know there is a shadow government that is not related to this discussion, and I have spelled that out previously as well. And there is a distinct difference between a United States Citizen and an American National. If you don't know what that is, do the research. As I stated in my other post above in this thread, we are only UNITED STATES CITIZENS if we claim to be. This is the 14th Amendment citizensip which was created by Congress for a specific purpose. When you check the box on, let's say a voter's registration, which asks, "Are you a Citizen of the United States?" and you check "YES" you are claiming to be a 14th Amendment United States Citizen. This question is on there for all of those former slaves and decendants of slaves (and others) who could not be true citizens according the the wording in the constitution. It is as I told a black guy I used to work with, "If they have to pass laws to say you have rights, then you had none to begin with." I guess you don't. Maybe this all will help, but I doubt it. ;0)
Hogwash and balderdash.
"A canon of construction which teaches that of Congress, unless a contrary intent appears, is meant to apply only within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States." U.S. v. Spelar, 338 U.S. 217 at 222
The Court's opinion finds the phrase 'foreign country,' in that Act's restriction against 'claims arising in a foreign country,' to be as compelling in excluding the Newfoundland air base, under the kind of control that the United States exercises at these bases, as less than a year ago it found the term 'possessions' in the Fair Labor Standars Act to be compelling in including these bases. Vermilya-Brown Co. v. Connell, 335 U.S. 377 . To assume that terms like 'foreign country' and 'possessions' are self-defining, not at all involving a choice of judicial judgment, is mechanical jurisprudence at its best. These terms do not have fixed and inclusive meanings, as is true of mathematical and other scientific terms. Both 'possessions' an 'foreign country' have penumbral meanings, which is not true, for instance, of the verbal designations for weights and measures. It is this precision of content which differentiates scientific from most political, legislative and legal language.
THERE IS NO SHADOW GOVERNMENT!!!! ALL OF YOU ARE UNITED STATES CITIZENS!!!!! WHAT IS SO HIDDEN ABOUT THAT????????????
I GUESS I JUST DON´T GET IT!!!!!!!!!
“The tendency of democracies is, in all things, to mediocrity, since the tastes, knowledge, and principles of the majority form the tribunal of appeal.” James Fenimore Cooper
#145. To: christine, Neil McIver, BTP Holdings, wbales, Tausero, christine, jessejane, max, Phant2000, lodwick, angel, AngelSpawn, RickyJ, all (#106)
Christine, please do not start on me. You do not know all of the story and, you are foegetting something as well. First off, I have been doing this for more years, probably, than most anyone on this list has been aware that there is even a problem. (Are you listing, Mr. Holdings?) I have not had a driver´s lic. in more than 25 years; have had private plates on my pick-up more than 20 years ago; have not had a bank account in my name in more than 20 years, and etc. etc. And I have put up with the friends, family, neighbors and strangers as well; what´s the matter, you anti-American believing all that shit? Hey, why can´t you just use regular plates like everyone else... you special or something? Jesus! Anyone believes like you, man, they belong in jail! And I have been there as well, twice for 91 days each time (and a couple of shorter visits as well). All they could do to me for contempt of court. Of course, if they knew how much contempt, they would have thrown away the key. And I have had the guns, more than 50 rifles, 20 handguns, reload my own ammo, more than 5,000 rds of armour piercing ammo, and etc. etc. etc. Most of my rifles had fiberglass bedded barrels, and I am a very, very good shot. I have been there, and done that, and you know what? It comes complete with a bunker mentality. Us against them, and, it cuts you off from normal Americans. They do not get it, and you can not reach them unless you can figure out some way to do it, that they will understand. That means education, cause you ain´t got a TV station. And what did you forget, Christine? I left the United States 25 years ago, yes, but I left the states themselves about 10 years ago (because I know full well what is coming), and I now live in Mexico, where I do not have a problem with the jack booted thugs, at least, no yet. And am I alone? No, there are about 8,000 former Americans living in this little fishing village (not so little any more), and more coming all of the time, and I understand why. Some, because they can live here much cheaper, but there are others who understand as well. Most of them won´t talk, but after you visit a little, well, they know. I have given presentations on the Federal Reserve and Disappearing Money to groups as large as 2,000 people, and I knew nothing; but I knew more than they did, so we all gained something. I have had question and answer sessions with groups that lasted sometimes in excess of 6 hours, and I had to answer dozens of questions. I have been on the radio, and did call-in with questions, but not much since my first wife got sick; that pretty well ended all of my activities. I have been writing and researching for more than 25 years, and, the more I learn, the more I find I have to learn, unlike some on here who, obviously, know it all. So, as I said, do not get on me, Christine, unless you have a similiar track record.
not wise at all,
The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.
#146. To: HOUNDDAWG (#120)
You are absolutely correct in all that you have stated, and so was the judge.
It wasn't that many years ago that an ART.3 judge ruled that Art 1 sec 10 of the constitution was "superfluous".
The Talmudic Khazar-Jew dream; Christians killing Muslims and Muslims killing Christians. What could be better than that? Well, Whites killing non-Whites and non-Whites killing Whites, of course.
#147. To: richard9151 (#84)
As a mason, should I be looking forward to new found powers and wealth when all this comes about or will I be a serf just like the rest of you poor slobs? If I do get the powers and wealth, I'll be sure to remember my friends here at 4um and I'll see to it that you all get double bread and water rations. hehehe
Do I hear a fat lady singing?
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