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Title: The "Mark Foley Republicans" (Goldi, Boteye) Work To Defend House Pervert
Source: Liberty Post
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... gi?ArtNum=160858&SC=1&EC=40#C1
Published: Oct 3, 2006
Author: Liberty Post
Post Date: 2006-10-03 11:15:01 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1104
Comments: 54

Entertaining thread indeed with War, mehitable, Don and anothers exposes these neocon perverts for power.

Just a sample of what can be found on this thread:

8. To: GO65 (#0) I'm telling you, this is a Pelosi power grab gambit.

Mark my words. She is in it for power ONLY, and will do what she can to destroy anyone to get it. She needs to be WATCHED. Closely.

That woman is Very VERY DANGEROUS.

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-10-03 10:01:22 ET Reply Trace


Anyon3e that bothered to read last months Time Magazine article about Pelosi should be very afraid.

Badeye


Where is the victim?

Where is the crime?

Doesn't an ACT have to happen to make a crime? And then there's the Consitution: Innocent until PROVEN guilty.

No one has even been Charged, and you've held the trial, convicted and found him guilty. Now you want capital punishment???

Foley Quit. He's gone.

What are YOU squawking about?

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-10-03 10:08:39 ET


When I was 16, I got a "pass" from a gay woman in my neighborhood.

I ignored her, and she went away.

Should I go back now, and have her removed from her job, put in jail, and have her boss castrated?

Goldi-Lox posted on 2006-10-03 10:17:56 ET


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#15. To: bluedogtxn, burkeman1 (#7)

Does this mean the GOP will rethink passing legislation designed to take away rights under the guise of passing laws to protect 'the children'?

Michael Savage and Drudge went on the radio both pretty much saying that this hunt for child predators has turned into a new witch hunt and Drudge said that hitting on teens is not that big a crime.

How the family values turn, my, oh my.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-03   11:39:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: bluedogtxn (#7)

They know exactly what it means to be conservative. It means you swallow your pride and defend some fifty year old faggot by saying "Nothing really happened. If it did happen, it was no big deal. If it was a big deal, then the Democrats did it, too."

i am wondering where It Is a Republic is this morning.

Remember, free speech is a privilege, not a right. In time of war speech should be censored and even prosecuted if it crosses the line. ~ Aaron on LP

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-10-03   11:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Destro (#15)

I was surprised at Savage, frankly, as I heard him defending Foley the other night. It shocked me, but I've heard that Savage - like Drudge, like Limbaugh - is gay and apparently this is normal behavior to them. It gives one pause when reflecting on the norms of the gay community.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   11:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Morgana le Fay (#16)

i am wondering where It Is a Republic is this morning.

Probably turning some pages.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   11:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Morgana le Fay (#14)

i posted a link to this on anohter thread. in a way it is funny, but in a way it is really scary. it shows you just how blind and nutty these people are. and what double standards they are capable of holding when their own party is being gored.

Ditto - very scary mindset - and what scares me even more of it that it is unresponsive to any reasoned argument. They turn forums into mobs.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-03   11:43:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Destro (#19)

What they've demonstrated is that they have true moral blindness. They didn't actually care what Clinton did with Lewinsky or what Foley has done, or would have done, with the pages. They just care about the power - it's so naked now. They've truly revealed themselves as the moral slugs they are at heart.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   11:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Destro (#15)

Does this mean the GOP will rethink passing legislation designed to take away rights under the guise of passing laws to protect 'the children'?

It means they hunker down and pray their name doesn't come up on some pageboy's list.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   11:48:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mehitable, burkeman1 (#17)

I was surprised at Savage, frankly, as I heard him defending Foley the other night. It shocked me, but I've heard that Savage - like Drudge, like Limbaugh - is gay and apparently this is normal behavior to them. It gives one pause when reflecting on the norms of the gay community.

The most repressive regimes are usually run by those that are repressed sexually themselves i.e. people who have issues.

But I am glad you can corroborate what Savage said. I pretty much did a classic comedy spit take when I heard it. I guess in this '1984' like society things like what you believe in can change overnight and no one is supposed to notice.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-03   11:50:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: mehitable (#11)

Most genuine conservatives would tar and feather these sons of bitches.

You have SO nailed it. (Rum and coke is the true drink of the harvest season...enjoy!)

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-03   11:50:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: bluedogtxn (#21)

I find it funny all those child internet protection laws and bills were the brainchild of Foley.

Projecting his twwisted views on America?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-03   11:52:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Destro (#24)

find it funny all those child internet protection laws and bills were the brainchild of Foley.

Projecting his twwisted views on America?

Well, it is funny how one's obsessions can affect one's work...

Like the closet drunks passing prohibition statutes; sort of a form of self- loathing...

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:15:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: mehitable (#4)

I want to say thank you for bringing to light just what a weird bunch of sick people dwell over there. It is a shame she, the owner, lost her own son. Perhaps having something like this happen to her own child would open her eyes-- -so long as it is someone else's kid, a different time, a different place, it doesn't seem to matter like it does when it is your own precious flesh and blood Johnny or Susie.

They can't seem to realize that it is "their" party that has made all these laws regarding what constitutes attempts to entice youngsters on the internet! Foley, having served 12 years, would have been in on much of it, for God's sake! They have defined 'who' the victim is of 'crime'--and it includes not having actual physical contact!

I would bet you money that if old threads about those homeland (in)security guys getting caught over internet contacts with minors, you'd find that these self=same defenders of all that is 'constitutional, so to speak', would be all for nailing their butts to the cross.

And whether they want to believe it or not, at age 16 or 17, a teenager is still a kid. They do not have the emotional maturity to make lifetime committments to girlfriends or boyfriends, let alone same sex relationships. They can't sign binding contracts. They can't get their ears pierced legally--(but they can abort a human being).

The attitude of 'he resigned--move on' is just precious. By that reckoning, Benedict Arnold could have just quit the military and walked away with a "no harm, no smarm'.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   12:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: bluedogtxn (#7)

I had not expected this from them. I don't know what they think it means to be a conservative. They know exactly what it means to be conservative. It means you swallow your pride and defend some fifty year old faggot by saying "Nothing really happened. If it did happen, it was no big deal. If it was a big deal, then the Democrats did it, too."

Truer words are only found in the Bible. And no doubt, the Bible, probably Proverbs, has something that addresses this very thing.

Your words make me really sad....because they indict our whole nation. :( It just depends upon who is in power as to which name goes in the 'they did it, too' spot.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   12:35:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: mehitable (#11)

And from people who call themselves "conservatives". They are destroying our movement and defaming our name. Most genuine conservatives would tar and feather these sons of bitches.

They have so bastardized the word 'conservative' that I refuse to call myself that.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   12:36:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: rowdee (#27)

Your words make me really sad....because they indict our whole nation. :( It just depends upon who is in power as to which name goes in the 'they did it, too' spot.

Well, they are parts of the Standard Shill Scandal Defenses:

(Here's my partial list) 1. It didn't happen. 1a. Look at the source, he's (partisan, unreliable, dishonest, a traitor) 2. If it happened, it's no big deal. 3. If it happened and it's a big deal, it was isolated and we didn't know about it. 4. If it happened, was a big deal and we knew about it, there was no cover up. 5. If it happened, was a big deal, we knew about it and we covered it up, the other side does it just as much as we do. 6. If it happened, was a big deal, we knew about it, we covered it up, and the other side doesn't do it, it's because we were set up by the other side. 7. It's all a conspiracy by the other side. 8. Both sides are just as bad. 9. The other side is worse. 10. We did it, we're really sorry, but the other side is making a bigger deal about it than it is. 11. It was bad, but look over there! That's something REALLY bad!

Keep this list handy. On it you will find just about every shill defense offered by the shills of each party when a scandal breaks. You can even write up your own defenses

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mehitable (#20)

What they've demonstrated is that they have true moral blindness. They didn't actually care what Clinton did with Lewinsky or what Foley has done, or would have done, with the pages. They just care about the power - it's so naked now. They've truly revealed themselves as the moral slugs they are at heart.

Exactly........and you've hit a HOME RUN! It is about being in power--screw the rightness or wrongness. It's the "R" that is all important....to those slugs.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   12:39:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S (#0)

It only took a short while to cross the line from party hack to psychopath.

These fools are surely possesed by evil.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   12:41:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: bluedogtxn (#29)

LOL.........funny but true.

I used to have a list of some 25 or 26 comments of a nature similar to this. It got to the point where one would just type #9 as a response or a partial response.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   12:43:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Destro (#22)

I pretty much did a classic comedy spit take when I heard it.

I did almost the same thing, I was so shocked to hear him defending that pervert. So Mike Savage is going on my boycott list as well as Drudge.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   16:14:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: rowdee, all (#26)

Ya know, rowdee, today was an ugly day. It really opened my eyes about some very ugly people on LP. I don't get involved in forum wars generally, and I know there has been anger back and forth here, but I've tried to be fair to everyone. I have to say, seeing them defend this pervert today has really removed the scales from my eyes. Frankly, I have no great desire to post anything over there now as I feel like I need a shower.

These are not just people I disagree with on some political matters. These are people who defend a great moral evil, who are willing to allow children to be victimized as long as they don't lose any political power over it.

Well I remember what Jesus said: 6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   16:20:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mehitable (#6)

I am now boycotting Drudge and urge everyone else to do so.

I even went as far as to block his site from my router. There should be a boycot of the sponsors of his radio show.

"First I'm gonna bother everybody I meet, and then I'll probably go home and get drunk."

orangedog  posted on  2006-10-03   16:22:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: orangedog (#35)

I agree completely. Maybe when I get home tonight I'll start writing the sponsors.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   16:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Brian S (#0)

Wow! So 16 year olds are fair game now? What will Goldi approve of next?

"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country."

- Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers

robin  posted on  2006-10-03   16:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Brian S (#0)

How ironic can you get? Saying, without so much as a shred of proof that Pelosi is behind this because all she cares about is "power" and then dismissing this perv's actions because it would lesson the Power of your fake faction?

The two party fraud indeed has a powerful hold over people when they start excusing the behaviour of old drunken queens trying to troll for teen boys on the internet.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-03   16:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: mehitable, all (#20)

What they've demonstrated is that they have true moral blindness. They didn't actually care what Clinton did with Lewinsky or what Foley has done, or would have done, with the pages. They just care about the power - it's so naked now. They've truly revealed themselves as the moral slugs they are at heart.

amen.

i can't help but think that the timing of this is suspect--immediately following the detainee/torture legislation. they'd much rather we be arguing/discussing/debating sex crimes which keep us divided...rather than uniting on a common issue which effects all of us in a dire way.

christine  posted on  2006-10-03   16:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#39)

Actually I do think this is a uniting issue because the overwhelming majority of Americans have the same reaction to the Foley issue that we do, and it really shows up the Repubs and Bush supporters as being ...well...depraved, frankly. I mean, I hate to characterize a whole party as depraved, but that's what it looks like to me. Not that the Dems are much better, but we're stuck between that rock and a hard place.

This may have been a calculated issue, but I think it's gonna backfire.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   16:47:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: mehitable (#40)

Actually I do think this is a uniting issue because the overwhelming majority of Americans have the same reaction to the Foley issue that we do,

maybe so..

christine  posted on  2006-10-03   16:58:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: mehitable (#6)

I am not defendng anyone, but I do think this is political. In other words, I would make a bet that there is an extraordinary amount of this type of crap going on in Congress. Either members hanging out with prositutes, doing illegal drugs, underage sex and so forth. I'd be willing to bet it is epidemic. And a Republican has been served up. Which is fine with me, but I'm sure that he isn't the only one, and I am sure it isn't limited to Republicans.

My own thought on this is that it is part of the same process that finds Bob Woodward attacking the administration. Their poll numbers had started to rise again and the talk of the Democrats getting the Congress was really waning. Someone wants the Bush Administration to take it on the chin (as against the other faction of the oligarchy) and the only way to do that without calling out the actual lies - like Iraq, the shredding of our alleged freedoms and so forth - is to come up with another version of that girl that went missing in Aruba. In other words a titillating scandal that can be played against the Republicans, without rocking the establishment boat.

I'll bet there are some Democrats shaking in their boots right now wondering if Rove is going to find their e-mails.

Loopy  posted on  2006-10-03   17:00:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: mehitable, All (#40)

Not that the Dems are much better..,

Here's what I stumbled across via a series of links at instapundit - if the info on this blog is true, the Democrats and their Gay caucus knew about the Foley matter 1 year ago, like the GOP, but the Democrats purposely chose to sit on it, too.

There are alot of live links in this piece.

http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/10/if-gay-activists-democrats- knew- of.html

"If Gay Activists & Democrats Knew of Foley, Why Were They Silent?" 10/03/06

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-03   17:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: scrapper2 (#43)

I can't get that link to open, scrapper. You might check out the link. Maybe it's my puter.

I'm sure the Dems were dirty too. Well, hell's a big place.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   17:03:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: scrapper2 (#43)

the Democrats and their Gay caucus knew about the Foley matter 1 year ago, like the GOP, but the Democrats purposely chose to sit on it, too.

of course.

christine  posted on  2006-10-03   17:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Loopy (#42)

What you're saying is true, I'm sure, and there is a political component. However, I would expect ordinary people and the vast majority of posters, to be OUTRAGED by this behavior of their elected representatives in handling teenagers entrusted to them. The concern I am seeing expressed is NOT for these kids or the immorality of what Foley did, or any concern that it was covered up: the concern that I am seeing expressed by so many fake "conservatives" is that they are going to lose power over this and they're trying to figure out who to successfully blame, or how to spin this. And that don't fly with me. EVER.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   17:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: scrapper2 (#43)

I tried to follow your link. "Not found."

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-03   17:07:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: mehitable (#46)

How can one have outrage now? Have you not been deadened to it? I have. I no longer have any expectation that my "betters" live by my morality or anything akin to it. There is a different world for people with power and scads and scads of money. (And I'm pretty well off to be saying so). They have no morality. Any of them. They do what they like. And the only thing that stops them is when they cross the wrong person or become expendable in some oligarchic power struggle.

Outrage. I have none, because I expect nothing better from these people. The "victims" of this were destined to be victims. That is why they are there. Or so these people assume. And if you don't know that, you haven't been paying attention. They are lords and they act it. They have the right of Prima Nocte and they will use it if they so choose. It has been so for some time. The best one can do is stay out of its way. Don't sign your kid up to be a page.

Loopy  posted on  2006-10-03   17:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Loopy (#48)

How can one have outrage now? Have you not been deadened to it?

Damn, Loopy, I'm sorry for you. I really am - I'm not being sarcastic here. Yes, I am still capable of outrage. You should read my posts to Goldi-Lox and Badeye on LP today. I thought my head would explode. I guess there are certain things that trigger it for me - anything that endangers children, old people or animals does outrage me. I know that much of what you say is true, but when we lose the capacity for outrage, anything can be done to us, and we can do anything. The moral sense is dead.

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   17:20:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: aristeides, All (#47)

I tried to follow your link. "Not found."

You are right. Weird. When I tried just now to post the link again, Neil's software will not let it go through properly. There should be no space between the "knew-" and "of". It should run like this: "knew-of.html"

Maybe it's because I followed a referring link via instapundit?

Also you can get the link if you just go directly to Glenn Reynold's blog at http://instapundit.com and follow the link he provides at 7:10 am and listed as "UPDATE: More silence" buried in the following text:

MICHAEL PETRELIS says that the Human Rights Campaign needs to speak out on Foley:

No one has been shocked!, shocked! to find the gay wing of the Democratic National Committee, the Human Rights Campaign silent on the Foley scandal. HRC is just too squeamish to figure out something, ANYTHING, of substance to say about the ex-congressman, now in rehab.

The largest gay organization in America and all its members can't see a single reason to weigh in on anything related to Foley, showing HRC has all the backbone of one of the dead, boneless chickens served at their dinners.

Among other things, he thinks HRC should ask for its $27,000 in campaign donations back.

UPDATE: More silence.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-03   17:28:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: mehitable (#44)

I can't get that link to open, scrapper. You might check out the link. Maybe it's my puter.

I'm sure the Dems were dirty too. Well, hell's a big place.

I know. I think because I'm posting a link from a link, it is not appearing properly here.

You can do 1 of 2 things as I told aristeides and christine earlier:

a) either you can go to Glenn Reynold's blog at http://instapundit.com and do an edit find for UPDATE ( uppercase) and it should get you to the sentence where he provides the link to Gateway Pundit, which he posted at 7:10 AM today, October 03. In fact the link is the last sentence [ UPDATE: More silence] of the October 03 postings just above his October 02 postings. I hope this makes sense...

b) there is not supposed to be a space between "knew-" and "of" in the url as it came out in my original posting.

So if you take my posted url and delete the space that Neil's software created, then it should work and the ending should look like this "knew-of.html"

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-03   17:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: scrapper2 (#51)

Thanks!

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   18:01:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Brian S (#0)

This is hilarious on so many levels, I don't even know where to begin. First of all, even if it WAS a setup by the damn lieberals and the mysteriously all-powerful Pelosi, who seems to be demonized simply because she's a pretty plain-spoken woman, so what? Is it untrue? Did Foley resign from his dream job because he did nothing wrong? There are many more logged IMs out there, and they will all become public; what has been released so far is staggering in its indictment of totally inappropriate behavior by Foley. He tried to get them to have sex with him, he offered to get them drunk, he made lewd comments, and he did this to kids he knew were off-limits.

As for innocent until proven guilty, Foley resigned and admitted it was all true. No one is trying him at the moment, although that could change, but there is no question that the charges are true. There's no other way to interpret this behavior; keep in mind that Monica was both 21 and the aggressor.

Then, of course, there's the homosexual aspect of it. The GOP knew this guy was both gay and a chickenhawk, that he had a taste for very young guys. Young straight guys. He was using his position to sexually harass them, and they put up with it because they wanted to get ahead in Republican politics. But what he did is a. obnoxious, b. illegal, and c. harmful.

And finally, Pelosi et al had little to do with this because the only democrat involved with the page committee was kept in the dark. Two liberal newspapers sat on this story for a year and never came close to publishing it because they only had a part of the story, and it was too thin to ruin a career over. As someone who has gone through a divorce, I have seen what can happen when someone throws charges like that around. A friend of mine lost custody of his daughter for 12 years because of false charges of this sort.

This was clearly covered up by Hastert et al, who knew that Foley would lose his next election if even a part of this mess became public. And they were not going to take any chances on losing seats in a tough election year.

I think Hastert could lose his seat next month; there have been enough stories about him floating around over the years that a lot of his supporters are just going to stay home this year. The governor's race is already over, there are no senatorial races, so it will come down to a lot of Republicans just saying the hell with it.

Mekons4  posted on  2006-10-03   18:20:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: mehitable (#34)

Its as though the republocraps are playing Gomorrah to the demowits Sodom. Very, very disgusting. It certainly points up the moral decay of the nation when people will defend their guy doing some evil while condemning the other guy for doing it.

This is the problem with voting for the lesser of two evils.......EVIL IS EVIL REGARDLESS OF THE QUANTITY...and when you go along with it, it makes you no better than the evil. Period.

rowdee  posted on  2006-10-03   18:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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