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Title: Limbaugh defends pedophilia
Source: Libertee Lost
URL Source: [None]
Published: Oct 3, 2006
Author: Mehitable posted it over there without h
Post Date: 2006-10-03 11:32:44 by bluedogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 1506
Comments: 70

From the October 2 broadcast of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

LIMBAUGH: I'm just thinking out loud here. What if somebody got to the page and said, you know, we want you to set Foley up. We need to do a little titillating thing here. Keep it and save it and so forth. How would you get a kid to do that? Yeah, who knows? You threaten him or pay him. There's any number of ways given the kind of people that we're dealing with and talking about here.

Now, folks, I don't want to be misunderstood here. I'm not trying to mount any kind of a defense. That's a bad word. I'm not trying to get into a defense of what Mark Foley did. Please don't misunderstand. I'm just telling you that the -- the -- the orgy and the orgasm that has been taking place in the media since Friday and with the Democrats is -- it's all coordinated, and it's all -- it's all oriented toward the election. There's no concern about the kid -- no concern about the children.

There is -- there is -- there's not even any real problem with what Foley did, as we've discussed.

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#1. To: All (#0)

We need to do a little titillating thing here. Keep it and save it and so forth. How would you get a kid to do that?

Anyone who can describe a teenage boy as "tittilating" ought to be in prison.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   11:36:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

This bastard belongs in jail. What the hell was he doing in the Dominican Republic? Titillating kids??????

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   11:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

There's no concern about the kid -- no concern about the children.

He's probably right about that at the upper levels.

There is -- there is -- there's not even any real problem with what Foley did, as we've discussed.

Compassionate Conservatism. Don't ask, don't tell.


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Tauzero  posted on  2006-10-03   11:40:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

I'm not trying to mount any kind of a defense.

rumor has it that he tries to mount little boys in dirt poor carribean countries. and that he has to take viagra to do it.

Remember, free speech is a privilege, not a right. In time of war speech should be censored and even prosecuted if it crosses the line. ~ Aaron on LP

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2006-10-03   11:42:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: bluedogtxn (#1)

Anyone who can describe a teenage boy as "tittilating" ought to be in prison.

Same thing for the CDA that would defend them.

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-03   11:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: It Is A Republic (#5)

So you are not excusing Foley, or blaming this on the pages or Democrats?

"I woke up in the CRAZY HOUSE."

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-03   11:46:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: mehitable (#2)

This bastard belongs in jail. What the hell was he doing in the Dominican Republic? Titillating kids??????

Well, he took his viagra, so presumably he did more than tittilate.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   11:48:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mehitable (#2)

This bastard belongs in jail. What the hell was he doing in the Dominican Republic? Titillating kids??????

Drudge and Michael Savage or on record as saying teens should not be off limits.

I guess Rush likes his boys Latin and brown with a body only working in the sugarcane fields can produce?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-03   11:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: mehitable (#6)

So you are not excusing Foley, or blaming this on the pages or Democrats?

not at all..... I say while it is on the front page, get them all .......... treat them all the same ....... this happened frequently while the Dems had power and the perps were all re-elected ..... Clinton pardoned one perp (Reynolds) when he left office .... he won re-election but was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, then he resigned ...... he was later hired by Jesse Jackson ...... I guess that rainbow has a soft spot for underage child porn perps ....... Get them all!!!!!

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-03   11:56:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: It Is A Republic (#5)

Same thing for the CDA that would defend them.

Well, I appreciate the sentiment, but this is still the United States of America, and the GOP hasn't quite gotten around to outlawing defense attorneys, reversing the presumption of innocence or doing away with jury trials; but give them time. Your budding little GOP Stalinists will soon have the police state you long for, given time.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   11:57:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: It Is A Republic (#5)

Same thing for the CDA that would defend them.

If you hate the American system you can always go to Afghanistan or Red China where it doesn't exist. Don't stay here and attempt do away with out Constitutional guarantees. The right of counsel is necessary in this day and age of complex legal nuance. Without it people would be railroaded into the sort of lifetime confinement that you and the GOP now advocate.

I can understand why you hate the western system of justice. It is directed at keeping anti-American types like you in check.

Minerva  posted on  2006-10-03   12:03:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bluedogtxn (#10)

There is a difference in trying to get someone a fair trial and trying to get them off on a technicality. Most CDAs are snakes!!!!

It Is A Republic  posted on  2006-10-03   12:06:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: mehitable (#6)

So you are not excusing Foley, or blaming this on the pages or Democrats?

Nope. He's slipped to standard shill scandal defense number 5.

1. It didn't happen. 1a. Look at the source, he's (partisan, unreliable, dishonest, a traitor) 2. If it happened, it's no big deal. 3. If it happened and it's a big deal, it was isolated and we didn't know about it. 4. If it happened, was a big deal and we knew about it, there was no cover up. 5. If it happened, was a big deal, we knew about it and we covered it up, the other side does it just as much as we do. 6. If it happened, was a big deal, we knew about it, we covered it up, and the other side doesn't do it, it's because we were set up by the other side. 7. It's all a conspiracy by the other side. 8. Both sides are just as bad. 9. The other side is worse. 10. We did it, we're really sorry, but the other side is making a bigger deal about it than it is. 11. It was bad, but look over there! That's something REALLY bad!

Keep this list handy. On it you will find just about every shill defense offered by the shills of each party when a scandal breaks. You can even write up your own defenses.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:06:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: It Is A Republic (#12)

There is a difference in trying to get someone a fair trial and trying to get them off on a technicality. Most CDAs are snakes!!!!

So you say. Right up until you need one.

Then all of a sudden we're heroes and the best friend you ever had.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:07:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: bluedogtxn, It Is A Republic (#10)

Well, I appreciate the sentiment, but this is still the United States of America, and the GOP hasn't quite gotten around to outlawing defense attorneys, reversing the presumption of innocence or doing away with jury trials; but give them time. Your budding little GOP Stalinists will soon have the police state you long for, given time.

The GOP knows how perverted the American people are because after all the GOP is made up of pervs who get re-elected.

Knowing how perverted they are they need to protect America from itself - while allowing them some perks of power because the GOP elite can handle their perversions a lot better than the little people.

Does that about sum it up, Dog?

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-03   12:08:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: bluedogtxn (#13)

Keep this list handy. On it you will find just about every shill defense offered by the shills of each party when a scandal breaks. You can even write up your own defenses.

Great list - who came up with it- pretty much all the forum talking points for the botdefense.

"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom

Destro  posted on  2006-10-03   12:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Destro (#16)

Great list - who came up with it- pretty much all the forum talking points for the botdefense.

I wrote it this morning, but I've written versions of it before.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:18:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

Normal men wouldn't seduce a 16 year old male page, enticed or not, now would they?

if foley's such a reputable character, why were they warning pages back in 2001 to stay away from him?

angle  posted on  2006-10-03   12:19:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: It Is A Republic (#12)

Most CDAs are snakes!!!!

As are judges.

angle  posted on  2006-10-03   12:22:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: mehitable (#2)

I stopped listening to Limbaugh after I heard him defend the torture at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo.

Somebody has got quite a hold on Limbaugh, to get him going from bad to worse. And this time I doubt if much of his audience agrees with him.

Beyond going against his own professional interests. He does better shows when he has Democrats in power to attack.

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-03   12:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: It Is A Republic (#12)

Most CDAs are snakes!!!!

You think prosecutors are saints?

Katrina was America's Chernobyl.

aristeides  posted on  2006-10-03   12:24:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: bluedogtxn (#14)

Then all of a sudden we're heroes and the best friend you ever had.

ain't that the truth...the bigger the snake, the better.

angle  posted on  2006-10-03   12:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

spoken like a true drug addict.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   12:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: gengis gandhi (#23)

spoken like a true drug addict.

Naw, he's just a shill.

Employing some Standard Shill Scandal Defenses:

1. It didn't happen. 1a. Look at the source, he's (partisan, unreliable, dishonest, a traitor) 2. If it happened, it's no big deal. 3. If it happened and it's a big deal, it was isolated and we didn't know about it. 4. If it happened, was a big deal and we knew about it, there was no cover up. 5. If it happened, was a big deal, we knew about it and we covered it up, the other side does it just as much as we do. 6. If it happened, was a big deal, we knew about it, we covered it up, and the other side doesn't do it, it's because we were set up by the other side. 7. It's all a conspiracy by the other side. 8. Both sides are just as bad. 9. The other side is worse. 10. We did it, we're really sorry, but the other side is making a bigger deal about it than it is. 11. It was bad, but look over there! That's something REALLY bad!

Keep this list handy. On it you will find just about every shill defense offered by the shills of each party when a scandal breaks. You can even write up your own defenses.

In this piece Limbaugh employs nos. 2, 7, 8, 10 and 11.

Gotta hand it to him, though. He's got his list down pat.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:36:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

Rush is a self-explanatory example of human perversion.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2006-10-03   12:37:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: SKYDRIFTER (#25)

See my 24.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:39:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

How do you set up an honest, moral person into the depths of child rape and molestation?

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   12:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: bluedogtxn (#24)

no, a shill has a limit.

this monster is a psychopath.

like the germans after wwII, seeing the mass graves, believing it to be a setup.

a pychopath is a sociopath who will advocate any evil.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   12:43:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: gengis gandhi, christine, aristeides, all (#28)

REGARDING THE TITLE OF THIS PIECE

Actually, I was going to edit it after I got your email, but it was too late. I really did take what you said to heart, but time to change the title had expired.

The other side of this deal is that I'm pretty much pro-obscenity when it is an appropriate response to shock the sensibilities of the reader to an outrage. I found what Limbaugh said to be completely outrageous. And after I read "All Quiet on the Western Front" I came away with the conviction that taking offense at language is superfluous when what really matters are questions of life, death and in this particular instance, the seduction and sodomizing of young men (and the subsequent justification of it by apologists like Limbaugh).

After a while the men in the war flipped ammo boxes over and crapped right in front of each other. Not because they were degraded, but because the dross of societal norms had been stripped away and the core of what it means to be human had been revealed to them.

Am I justifying my use of offensive language and imagery? Perhaps. But I think about a confused young man, hardly more than a boy, getting emails from a perverted old bastard like Foley, and I think about eleven members of congress sweeping it under the rug and not investigating it, and I think about Limbaugh calling it "no big deal"...

It pisses me off. I mean it pisses me off almost enough to use ALL CAPS.

So I'm sincerely sorry if I've offended you or made you think less of me, but I'd rather you have a diminished idea of who I am than have a false impression of me.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   12:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: It Is A Republic, bluedogtxn, aristeides, Minerva (#12)

There is a difference in trying to get someone a fair trial and trying to get them off on a technicality. Most CDAs are snakes!!!!

I'm not sure what Foley will be charged with exactly.

Age of consent in DC is 16.

Foley's IM's/email's, while "tittilating" to quote El Rushbow, are not showing Foley to be offering the intern $ for sex.

And as to the issue of sexual harrassment, Foley was not the employer of the interns.

So even though Foley is a disgusting perv with pedophile potential, who deserved to be forced out of Congress, what laws did he break?

I'm playing devil's advocate...

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-03   12:55:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: scrapper2 (#30) (Edited)

Age of consent in DC is 16.

Foley's IM's/email's, while "tittilating" to quote El Rushbow, are not showing Foley to be offering the intern $ for sex.

And as to the issue of sexual harrassment, Foley was not the employer of the interns.

Utterly irrelevant. This is what FR is pushing out now.

Foley was soliciting sex with a minor on the internet under the applicable Federal Law. Foley was the acting supervisor of the intern. Money for sex is just another red herring from FreeRepublic. If you solicit a kid for sex, it is not necessary for money to change hands to support the charge.

Minerva  posted on  2006-10-03   12:59:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: bluedogtxn (#29)

nah, language is a tool.

look, if you state in an article that 'rep foley sought to sodomize young pages' it has one effect.

if you were to say 'rep foley sought to assbang young pages' it has a completely different, more powerful effect. one that will get the bluehaired bible thumping bitches off their asses in outrage.

part of our biggest problem is not calling things what people understand them to mean.

balls. the biggest bunch of horseshit in washington is these pukes saying 'he may have been inaccurate' when the thing they should be saying is 'he's a liar'.

no one wants to call things what they are because of civility or whatever. look, dressing it up in non specific terms does nothing for truth.

foley wanted to have sex with, fellate, whatever the hell you want to call it, with these kids.

only lawyers want to gild a turd.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   13:07:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: gengis gandhi, mehitable, minerva, bluedogtxn (#32)

For those who care; Hastert will be 'circling the wagons' on Limbaugh's show at 1:30...should be great theatre.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2006-10-03   13:13:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: who knows what evil (#33)

the funny thing is is that limbaugh is destroying any credibility he had left.

he's another closet case.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   13:17:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: gengis gandhi (#27)

How do you set up an honest, moral person into the depths of child rape and molestation?

You can't. Accordingly, he's not an honest, moral person.

He's a sicko.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   13:17:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: bluedogtxn (#35)

yep, all that with one hand tied behind his narcotically induced deaf, viagra taking brain.

what a sick bastard.

gonna defend this shit, while going off on clinton for hetero sex with an of age woman.

no wonder clinton said it was no big deal. he wasn't trying to buttpork sixteen year old boys.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   13:23:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

there's not even any real problem with what Foley did, as we've discussed.

This shows the amoral qualities of the "family friendly" GOP spokesmouth, Lushrimbaugh.



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IndieTX  posted on  2006-10-03   13:24:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: IndieTX (#37)

Oh yeah, when he's not on some weird, freaky holiday with a bunch of guys and a big bottle of viagra, coming back from the domincan republic, or getting busted as jeff christie for soliciting a male prostitute...

anyone wanna bet this son of a bitch is a pedophile too?

anybody who's gonna defend this crap has got some definite twisted crap in their heads, i guarantee you that.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   13:28:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: IndieTX (#37)

there's not even any real problem with what Foley did, as we've discussed. This shows the amoral qualities of the "family friendly" GOP spokesmouth, Lushrimbaugh.

I wonder how much of his audience was willing to go along with that part of his schpiel. I mean, I know they are "dittoheads"... but molesting sixteen year old boys?

Tough to justify that one.

the law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich as well as the poor to sleep under bridges, beg in the streets and steal bread.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-03   13:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Minerva (#31)

Utterly irrelevant. This is what FR is pushing out now.

Foley was soliciting sex with a minor on the internet under the applicable Federal Law. Foley was the acting supervisor of the intern. Money for sex is just another red herring from FreeRepublic. If you solicit a kid for sex, it is not necessary for money to change hands to support the charge.

I am not sure what FR "is pushing."

I was simply being curious about what charges a federal prosecutor could level against Foley and win in court.

a) Was Foley actually soliciting sex from a minor on the internet?

I'll grant you that Foley made some very suggestive lurid comments, but did Foley actually "solicit sex?"

In one case - as listed in this article - even the parents of the page did not want any action taken against Foley at the time. And the kid involved thought the communications from Foley were "creepy" but that was the extent of it.

b) This July the FBI received copies of the emails that Foley sent the Louisiana teenager in 2005 but the FBI chose NOT to pursue an investigation. Why do you think the FBI would not jump on this??? - perhaps because there was not enough evidence re: any crime being committed???

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- dyn/content/article/2006/10/02/AR2006100200333.html

"FBI Knew in July About Foley E-Mails to Teen" October 03, 2006 Washington Post

"...The FBI acknowledged yesterday that it did not begin an investigation in late July after receiving copies of e-mails sent in 2005 by then-Rep. Mark Foley (R-Fla.) to a Louisiana teenager..."

c) Foley was not an "acting supervisor" of the interns. Where did you read that to be the case?

d) Get your self-righteous shorts un-twisted. I am not a mindless freetard. I am not defending Foley's actions. I am only "putting out there" the possibility that it will be hard to prosecute Foley on any criminal charges and win. And this will not be because a wiley CDA is using technicalities to get Foley off. It may be that Foley's actions, while reprehensible, are not breaking any laws. Kapeesh?

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-03   13:35:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: bluedogtxn (#39)

Well, if foley can't find a job as a 'consultant', I'm sure he could get work from the vatican.

To believe the world is only as you think it is, is stupid. ~Don Juan Matos, Journey to Ixtlan, Carlos Casteneda

gengis gandhi  posted on  2006-10-03   13:38:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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