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Title: The Anti-American, Anti-Christian Philip Roth
Source: The Bob Circus 3.0
URL Source: http://home.att.net/~bob.wallace/philip-roth.html
Published: Oct 4, 2006
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2006-10-04 07:14:50 by YertleTurtle
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Comments: 22

I don't know how the churlish and ignoble Philip Roth remains upright, the way his moral compass is spinning so madly. The author, who made his name with the more-than-a-little-semi-pornographic Portnoy's Complaint, which titillated a 12-year-old me and my classmates so much the teacher confiscated the book, has now with his current novel, The Plot Against America, used this farrago of vitriol to spin himself right into a place where good is evil, and evil, good.

I'll wager that George Orwell would have seen Roth's book as an example of Lies are Truth, Ignorance is Strength and War is Peace (and in Roth's case, Cowardice is Bravery). The novel is odious, libelous and just plain disgusting -- especially the grotesque and sickening comments about a murdered baby. Maybe we need a neologism: "libelodious." More cheerful is the idea of using Roth's name, as in "He Rothed him," meaning "a truly dishonest and reprehensible man told blatant and transparent lies about a good man."

The man libeled is Charles Lindbergh, who was about as close to a true hero as America produced in the 20th century. Roth libels him as a frothing-at-the-mouth anti-Semite, and a crypto-Nazi just waiting, faster than an eyeblink, to turn into the hillbilly version of Hitler.

Roth also libels America, which he apparently believes is always on the verge of toppling into a kinder, gentler Nazi Germany. Actually, he libels everything west of New York City as a horrifying, undifferentiated mass of drooling, gap-toothed, tobacco-juice-spittin', banjo-playing, five-year-old-girl chasin' troglodytes jes' awaitin' to lynch Jews from the nearest tree.

The focus of evil in Rothworld is Kentucky, a place which to him takes up 90% of Flyover Land. I get the impression Roth truly believes that if he was to ever leave Brooklyn, everyone west of it would have eyes about an inch apart, and drag their knuckles on the ground when they weren't picking their noses, farting in church or hitching their crotches up in public. I guess he believes Kentucky is the breeding chamber for those hundreds of millions of Morlocks overrunning America.

The Plot Against America is actually an excruiciatingly bad science-fiction novel, of a sub-genre called "alternate history." Roth should have stayed with his specialty, "autobiographical pornography written by a dirty-minded neurotic Jew who cruelly verbally abused his ex-wife and her daughter, was a drug addict, and checked himself into and out of mental institutions."

In Plot, Charles Lindbergh beats FDR for the nomination in 1940, and becomes President. Now would have happened if this eminently sane event had come to pass? Lindbergh, a true patriot who was an anti-interventionist in the mold of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson, would have kept the US out of World War II. There would have been peace, Roth forbid.

Instead,in Roth's confabulations, Lindbergh instantly turns a compliant America into the Hillbilly Reich, the inhabitants of which immediately start whoopin' and yeehawin' because they don't have to send their sons to die in another European war, and instead let their anti-Semitic bloodlust, which Roth thinks is in their DNA, take control of their 70 IQ heads.

Roth will have none of this peace-mongering. He writes of FDR, who really was a semi-fascist and pro-Communist, as a great President unfortunately voted out of office by people who should have been grateful he was going to get them disassembled as cannon fodder by the hundreds of thousands.

He also cheers Lincoln and Woodrow Wilson as great presidents. Apparently, Roth as no education at all.

As for FDR, he maneuvered the Japanese into attacking Pearl Harbor by cutting off their oil and sending the Flying Tigers against them in China. There is substantial evidence he knew Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked – indeed, he moved the fleet there from the safety of California – and wanted war with Japan so Stalin (whom he called "Uncle Joe") wouldn't have to fight a two-front war against the Germans and Japanese. If Roth knows about any of this, I'm sure he doesn't believe it. Or if he does believe it, perhaps he agrees with it.

Lindbergh, who was a fine writer and speaker, is portrayed as having even less ability to speak than the stumble-tongued George Bush. He starts a program with the improbable name of "Just Folks," in which Jewish city boys are sent into the country to be Nazified. One of Roth's relatives returns from this hillbilly Dante's Inferno with a taste for ham and bacon, the Devil's Food, which, Roth, gasping in horror, claims destroys his ability to draw and also makes him enjoy picking tobacco and milking cows. Another is forced to move to Kentucky by the federal government, and almost instantly becomes so retarded he can do little more than intone, "Do you like cookies and milk? I like cookies and milk."

Still another, a mother, is murdered -- it's hard to write this with a straight face -- "alongside a potato field" in the Hell-on-Earth know as -- brr!-- Paducah, Kentucky! Leaving her poor son with no parents at all!

Roth also spends an entire chapter on his cousin, who lost part of his leg in the war. He spends that chapter writing in exquisite detail of his cousin's swollen, oozing, scabby, and -- to Roth's oh-so-delicate little-girl sensibilities -- horrifying stump (this is when he's not telling us about his cousin's masturbatory spraying of semen all over the place as he watches little girls though a basement window). The chapter title? Not surprisingly, "The Stump."

Roth is not only terrified of the Midwest, which in his mind starts one millimeter west of the Hudson River, he also swoons in horror at Catholicism, with its "witchy" nuns and "mortician-like" priests.

And, I'll have to admit, I've never read a novel in which all those Catholic Nazi hillbillies infesting Kentucky join the Ku Klux Klan and the American Nazi Party, then break out the kerosene-soaked crosses they've been hiding in their basements, which they hurl at anyone who they think looks like a Jew.

There are even anti-Semitic riots in St. Louis, a place in which I have lived, and where the only semi-riots occurred when the German consulate hung a Nazi flag outside their window, and the gathered crowd got so upset the police had to be called. But Roth does not know these things, having created history out of his head.

The novel is preposterous and surreal to the point of hilarity. Anti-Jewish pogroms in Cleveland? What next, death camps run by the Simpsons, with Lisa as She-Wolf of the SS?

I won't give the ending away, except to say that a cackling Roth gets to engage in his version of genocide against all those inbred 'Tuckians. I'll also say he has gotten the truth backwards and upside down, and in doing so has written a truly repellent anti-Christian, anti-American novel, one of the worst I have ever read. The man should be ashamed of himself.

At the end of his career Roth shows himself to be as he started it -- paranoid, hate-filled, envious, narcissistic, utterly self-absorbed and utterly self-deluded. As a novelist he will be forgotten. As a decent and honorable man, he never was one.

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#1. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Yes, "The Plot Against America" is a simple minded feverish piece of crap in which America is saved by the intreped Jews and good Yankees of DC from the clutches of proto Nazi Catholic hyphenated Ameicans and the KKK. It is actually how Neowhores view themselves today. It is a DC triumphalist piece of garbage.

That doesn't change the stink of a fish story around the Lindberg kidnapping. And the stink of that grusome crime has nothing to do with the soundness of Lindberg's foreign policy beliefs. Your need for saints and sinners and white and black knights is touching. Unfortunatley- people with the "right" political viewpoint are not always good human beings. It's called reality. You should check it out sometime.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-04   7:31:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

One can only hope that Thomas J. DiLorenzo's excellent writing about the real Lincoln will permeate the mainstream, so they (if not we) can dismantle his ill deserved and gaudy memorial someday.

Lincoln not only jailed hundreds of Northern newspaper editors and publishers who were critical of his war, but, he actually deported an Ohio congressman to the South! And, Lincoln permitted slavery to continue in Northern border states after he issued his Emancipation Proclamation. My present home of Delaware did not free their slaves until the passage of the 13th amendment in 1865!

And yet the myth that Lincoln sent men to fight to free the slaves endures in the minds of those who lionize him. The fact is, since he could not elevate blacks beyond that which the preamble of the Constitution permitted, in order to "equalize us all" he could only weaken the rights of preamble citizens by rolling us all flat as a dime under the law.

Those who assert that all constitutional amendments and statutes that passed during Reconstruction are invalid are on solid ground, because the Southern States were under occupation and could not elect their own representatives, and puppets could not cast votes for people who had no say in the matter.

For instance, at one point the post-war South Carolina General Assembly had no white reps or senators, because white Southerners in SC could not vote, hold office or own property. Are we supposed to believe that the blacks who did hold the seats (as depicted in BIRTH OF A NATION) could sign off on constitutional amendments for a people under a brutal bayonet point occupation? It is a fundamental plank of Anglo-American jurisprudence that "any act committed by me against my will is not my act, and this would certainly apply to amendments and statutes that were signed off on by our enemies during Reconstruction.

Historians other than DiLorenzo would have us believe that Southerners were simultaneously denied their rights to vote and choose their elected officials, and those who were chosen for them could decide their destinies as dictated by Washington.

If the occupation governments were doing the bidding of the South, then why were they there at all?

And, the obscene abuses of executive power we are witnessing today are merely exercises of the same usurped power that Lincoln wielded then.

In other words Reconstruction never ended, and BushCo is merely extending off of it with his own insane lust for absolute despotism.

Although I agree with much of what you wrote, I too despise the slack-jawed friends Of Jeebus who are easily fooled by Bush's make believe piety. If we don't stop them from making Armageddon a self fulfilling prophesy they will reduce the planet to a burned out cinder, and by the time the learn that they ain't gonna get raptured it will be too late. (These are likely the only Southerners of which Roth approves, at least until they target Jews for conversion)

Perhaps some space traveler with a sense of humor will erect a sign that reads "BUSH-CHENEY-THE HAND OF GAWD" for all other travelers to see when they visit this dead rock in space.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   8:00:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Burkeman1 (#1)

Unfortunatley- people with the "right" political viewpoint are not always good human beings.

Your comment that Lindbergh called his lawyer before the cops is a slander that Lindbergh killed his own baby.

Perhaps he thought the cops were incompetent (that's been my experience) and realized the media would be on the case in a heartbeat. I'm sure he realized instantly his kid had been kidnapped, so he called his lawyer, hoping to clear the case without too many fools getting involved.

I don't believe in white knights and black knights, as touching as your concern is. But I do know the evidence that Leo Frank slaughtered Mary Phagan is overwhelming, and there is no evidence that Bruno Hauptman didn't kidnap and murder Lindbergh's son.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-04   8:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: YertleTurtle (#3)

I apologize for butting in.

I'm out.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2006-10-04   8:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: YertleTurtle (#3)

Your comment that Lindbergh called his lawyer before the cops is a slander that Lindbergh killed his own baby.

Burky is just another Jew that hates America.

If you look back to Congressman Charles Lindbergh you will see why this creep hates America and Americans.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   8:35:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

Burky is just another Jew that hates America.

That's pretty obvious -- defending a bisexual pedophile and coke addict who raped and strangled a 12-year-old, insinutating that Linbergh murdered his own son...that's why I suggested he's Philip Roth.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-04   8:43:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: HOUNDDAWG (#4)

I apologize for butting in.

I'm out.

You're absolutely right about Lincoln. Mass-murdering vermin, and a homosexual to boot -- and the neocons just love him.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-04   8:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: YertleTurtle (#6)

That's pretty obvious -- defending a bisexual pedophile

Lindberghs father was nearly the only Congressman that stood up and denounced the Jew takeover of our money system.

Jews like Burky have never forgiven that family. If I recall there was even an attempt on Linberghs life because he tried to warn the country what the Jews were up to.

When Lindberghs son came along, the Jews were in waiting. They never forget.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   8:48:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: YertleTurtle (#3)

Don't fool yourself- no evidence is needed at all for you. Of course- the mounds of exculpatory evidence was bought or planted by the Jew conspiracy no doubt.

As for Lindberg, he did what all powerful or famous men do when they murder someone- call their lawyer first- like Ted Kennedy after getting out of the drink all wet and soaking after he ditched the chick he drowned.

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-04   8:52:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: YertleTurtle (#6)

that's why I suggested he's Philip Roth.

Because you are a brain dead ideologue who makes baseless assumptions and wild leaps of logic? Is that the thinking that leads you to believe Frank was guilty and Lindberg innocent?

Burkeman1  posted on  2006-10-04   8:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: YertleTurtle (#7)

Don't fool yourself- no evidence is needed at all for you.

Last nite the Jew Burkemann was making remarks about the Franks trial.

Just one queer Jew protecting another. The trial transcript is available for all to read and Burkamann is a liar from page one.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   8:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#11)

Your crudeness is not only offensive and uninstructive, it is contrary to the spirit of this forum, IMHO.

We've all got a beef here of one kind or another, but I truly despise the sort of venom that is common coin at LF et al.

I like reading posts here and adding my sometimes sententious five cent's worth, because I find that the general run of posters on the 4um consists of thoughtful, and reasonable individuals who get hot sometimes but who are also good sports.

Please take this kind of argument, if it can be called argument at all, somewheres else.

randge  posted on  2006-10-04   9:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: randge (#12)

Please take this kind of argument, if it can be called argument at all, somewheres else.

There is a bozo button with which to avail yourself, Burky did so because he cannot stand the light of truth.

I would hazard a guess you share the sentiment of Burky or you have not a clue as to what is afoot.

Perhaps you could enlightgen us.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   10:00:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Burkeman1 (#10) (Edited)

Is that the thinking that leads you to believe Frank was guilty and Lindberg innocent?

Simply incredible...a bisexual pedophile and cocaine addict rapes and strangles a 12-year-old girl, and you'll do everything to deny that fact. As for Lindbergh, it's simply astonishing that you think he murdered his own son.

Thousands of years of inbreeding produces some truly ugly people.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-04   10:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: YertleTurtle (#14)

Your crudeness is not only offensive and uninstructive, it is contrary to the spirit of this forum, IMHO.

It seems we have more and more people coming out of the closet with aid and comfort for their kin.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   10:11:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Cynicom (#15)

It seems we have more and more people coming out of the closet with aid and comfort for their kin.

You know something? I really don't have anything against Jews, or blacks, or any ethnic group. I don't hate anyone or any group.

Yet the fact remains Jews have been expelled at least 80 times in the past 2000 years, and from countries before Christianity was there. All commentators in past have said the same thing: liars, thieves, always attempting to destroy whatever culture admits them.

What am I supposed to think about this?

I have met a lot of good Jewish people. I have also met a lot of liars, thieves and sexual perverts, far more than exists in the general population.

"Anyone who has the power to make you believe absurdities also has the power to make you commit atrocities." — Voltaire (1694-1778)

YertleTurtle  posted on  2006-10-04   10:19:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: YertleTurtle (#16)

What am I supposed to think about this?

If I may...History lesson...

Mary Phagan was a child, working 12 hour days, for ten cents an hour.

In the latest movie about Leo frank, 1988 I think, there is an example of how MSM twists and turns to hide the truth. In the movie, Frank is not a factory manager using child labor, that would give a bad impression. So, in the movie he is a kind caring and loving school teacher, and little Mary is a darling student, not a slave laborer working 12 hours a day.

Some people refuse to see what is in front of them.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   10:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Cynicom (#15)

It seems we have more and more people coming out of the closet with aid and comfort for their kin.

I really hate to get into this with you, but I know my background back to the 1200's on one side and nearly back to the 1600's on the other and there are no Jews there as best I can tell, if that's what you mean. I have no idea what Burkemann's heritage is.

I defend no one on the basis of "kinship" excepting the members of my own immediate family, but I rather take offense at "Just one queer Jew protecting another." These cheap adhominems do not make a case. It's a lot easier to throw insults around than it is to lay out the forensics in complex cases that stir up passions the way the Lindbergh and Franks cases still do many long years after the participants have died.

If you want to make a case, start a thread. Lay it on us. That's what these forums are for.

These taunts and insults, they go nowhere.

randge  posted on  2006-10-04   14:23:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: randge (#18)

If you want to make a case, start a thread. Lay it on us. That's what these forums are for.

I have no interest in your ancestory.

I suspect you have not a clue as to what and who Burky is and what his agenda is.

Further if you have ever studied the history of Congressman Charles Lindbergh, you might have a better understanding of his son and his life.

Tell me you know all about senior Lindbergh and we can start from there, until then, it seems you have nothing to offer except carping.

Until then, bozo or request I be banned.

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   14:34:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Cynicom (#19)

I suspect you have not a clue as to what and who Burky is and what his agenda is.

No, I don't.

Why don't you enlighten me?

randge  posted on  2006-10-04   14:39:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: randge (#20)

Why don't you enlighten me?

Well, that goes to indicate that you do not read Burkys posts or you are carrying water for Burky.

Few days ago it was someone named Ops or some such, he was carrying a 5 gal bucket of water for Burky.

I suppose you DID notice Burky does not carry his own water?

Enlighten you? It would take quite awhile.

Did you read up on Lindbergh senior and Mary Phagan so we could discuss them?

Cynicom  posted on  2006-10-04   17:23:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#21)

Yes.

I'm working on it anyway.

Have some other stuff that needs my immediate attention, like making dough. Like to look at this stuff carefully from all angles and I don't really want to shoot off my mouth unless I think I understand something.

Perhaps we'll talk about Lindbergh and Phagan again soon. That's no brush off, you understand. I'm always willing to engage in discussion on relevant historical topics. I do like to keep the invective level down a bit, though.

randge  posted on  2006-10-04   20:33:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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