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Title: I CAN'T KEEP UP!
Source: bluedogtxn
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Published: Oct 5, 2006
Author: bluedogtxn
Post Date: 2006-10-05 11:24:55 by bluedogtxn
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Views: 491
Comments: 25

WOW. This site is hot as hell today. New posts are popping up about every two or three minutes. I can't keep up with all the stuff being posted. Has EVERYONE left Liberty Post except Badeye and his sycophants?

Amazing morning!

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#9. To: bluedogtxn (#0)

Has EVERYONE left Liberty Post

and Freeperville ...

Free speech is growing here !!!

noone222  posted on  2006-10-05   11:42:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I don't agree with some of the viewpoints here, especially the folks who think the Jews run everything, but I think in general the posters here have a much more sophisticated and informed view of the world than in most forums. The other forums are too filled with party partisans and that baloney just don't fry no more. Both parties suck and the system is broken. I think at least most of us here realize that.

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-05   11:45:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Both parties suck and the system is broken. I think at least most of us here realize that.

Yeah, I'm a Democrat romantic, but I agree with you on that. The people running both parties are corporate whores, with a few exceptions. I think the Democratic Party is redeemable, but the GOP is just gone.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-05   11:48:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yeah, I'm a Democrat romantic, but I agree with you on that. The people running both parties are corporate whores, with a few exceptions. I think the Democratic Party is redeemable, but the GOP is just gone.

Damn, I wish I could believe that about the Dems, blue, but you're right about the Repubs - they are totally beyond redemption. I guess it depends on who leads the Dems. I just wish we could move the whole party at least towards the center instead of the left. The left just kills them (and us).

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-05   12:01:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I just wish we could move the whole party at least towards the center instead of the left. The left just kills them (and us).

I don't think the left/right paradigm is frankly useful anymore. That's hard to admit, because I have a BA in political science and it's the first thing they teach us...

I want to see less statism. Because statism leads inevitably toward fascism. Drastically cut our federal defense, federal law enforcement, stop the drug war farce, and cut the federal budget by at least 50%.

OTOH, we can't kill social security, because we don't want old folks eating out of garbage cans; so keep it. We can't kill medicare because we don't want poor people dying of dysentary, so keep it. But don't expand it.

Enforce the borders, but don't set up fucking concentration camps for Mexicans. I mean, seriously, fucking concentration camps?

But the fundamental thing is to reduce the size of the federal government, and reduce their authority, their perniciousness, and their budget, ESPECIALLY the military budget. And no more foreign fucking adventures.

bluedogtxn  posted on  2006-10-05   12:08:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: bluedogtxn (#18)

I don't think the left/right paradigm is frankly useful anymore. That's hard to admit, because I have a BA in political science and it's the first thing they teach us...

I think today they teach the left and further left paradigm !

noone222  posted on  2006-10-05 12:12:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And no more foreign fucking adventures.

America: Make cars, not wars.

randge  posted on  2006-10-05 12:15:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I use left right because they've become convenient shorthand for the various positions that allegedly are held by the parties.

I think you're right that the dichotomy has become useless as the left/right have met somewhere in the middle of the circle that revolves around statism and globalism - the "getting big" phenomena that truly endangers the entire world. I think the only answer to human freedom and just the basic succcess and competence of the institutions that we govern by, is localism. Keep governance, as much as possible, local. That's the only way it can be kept accountable. Get SMALL.

I would like to see as much of the federal govt dismantled as possible. At least the internal departments and programs that have been built up over the decades. I know this will involve some pain, maybe considerable pain and confusion, but I see no alternative. You cannot have big government AND liberty. I think programs like social security and medicare were noble ideas that have failed, because we are simply too incompetent and corrupt as a people to make these ideas work on this scale. This is not a failing of our leaders - I think it's a failing we have as Americans. A weakness, if you will, that makes us look to the easiest way to make a buck, with little consciousness of where it comes from or how it affects others. Making a buck is the American moral Achilles heel - more than other people's I believe.

So I would gradually start dissolving these programs over the course of 3-4 decades as it took that long to build them up, and those who have grown to rely on these programs or expect benefits, should not be allowed to become impoverished because of lies and incompetence. We must honor our debts, but let's stop building them. These programs will either have to be administered by local govts or just through private means. We just cannot manage such programs on such a nationwide scale. It's time to acknowledge our limits.

mehitable  posted on  2006-10-05 12:17:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

But the fundamental thing is to reduce the size of the federal government, and reduce their authority, their perniciousness, and their budget, ESPECIALLY the military budget. And no more foreign fucking adventures.

Military budget cuts will not have any effect on reducing foreign wars. Congress would then be more likely to use conscription.

In order to change our nation's foreign policy we need to cut the various foreign policy related lobby groups' influence. There is no other nation on this planet that allows so much access of special interest lobbies to elected politicians as our nation.

Cutting military budgets without cutting lobby groups' considerable power ( Israel lobby, military industrial complex lobby,oil industry lobby but to name a few of the big movers and shakers in this regard) will achieve little to change the disasterous meddling and interventionist foreign policy course our elected politicians have set us on.

scrapper2  posted on  2006-10-05 13:11:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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