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Title: Vatican Document on Limbo Might Be Ready
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Associated Press
URL Source: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... 6/international/i085246D08.DTL
Published: Oct 6, 2006
Author: Associated Press
Post Date: 2006-10-06 12:05:32 by Brian S
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(10-06) 08:52 PDT 11VATICAN CITY, (AP) -- Vatican theologians are leaning toward revising centuries-old teaching that babies who die without baptism go to limbo instead of heaven, officials said Friday. "All of us have hope for the babies" that they will go to heaven, under the revised thinking on limbo, said the Rev. Luis Ladaria, a Jesuit who is secretary-general of the Vatican's International Theological Commission. The commission, which advises the pope and other top doctrinal officials of the church, has spent the week debating the question of limbo in view of preparing a document. Although Catholics have long believed that children who die without being baptized still have original sin and are thus excluded from heaven, the church has no formal doctrine on the matter, Vatican officials have noted. Theologians have taught that such children enjoy an eternal state of perfect natural happiness, commonly called limbo. The theologians, including clergy and laity, were holding a final session Friday evening. But Ladaria said the theologians have not reached the point of drafting a document. Italian state TV reported Thursday evening that the document would be ready next year. "That could be very possible," Ladaria said. But "when it will be ready to be published, should they (the Vatican) decide to do so, doesn't depend on" the commission. Ladaria made his comments during a break in the debate, speaking by telephone from the Vatican City guest house hosting the meeting. Since both Pope Benedict XVI and his predecessor, John Paul II, have urged the theologians to study the limbo question, a document is widely expected to be made public. Benedict celebrated Mass with members of the commission Friday, but his homily, a reflection on theologians' work, did not touch on the limbo debate. Ladaria's hopes for the non-baptized babies' fate after death echoed the optimistic opinion by an Italian bishop who is on the commission. Asked if the document will "tip the balance in the favor of heaven" for babies now believed to go to limbo, Archbishop Bruno Forte told state TV, "I hope so." Archbishop William Levada, the San Francisco prelate who last year became the Vatican's guardian of doctrinal orthodoxy after Benedict assumed the papacy, has described the need to resolve the limbo question as a pressing one. Levada has cited an increase in the number of non-baptized babies in societies he said were marked by "cultural relativism and religious pluralism." Ladaria in an interview last year with Vatican Radio described the long-held view on limbo, as a state where the babies enjoyed "natural happiness" but had no vision of God, as "being in crisis." Any document on limbo would likely reflect Benedict's nature, as a career theologian, to spell out the Church's stand on limbo in a well-developed theological argument. URL: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2006/10/06/international/i085246D08.DTL
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
The Orthodox Church has been telling its wayward heretical sister church in Rome that there is no limbo or purgatory for centuries.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Somehow I expect God took care of that long ago and is something that man has nothing to say about.
Somehow I think your statement pretty much covers everything.
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
richard... It would seem to me that taking care of the unborn and little ones would have been a priority with God. Man may fuss and debate, but it is really something they have nothing to do with.
I absolutely agree, but God is not one to leave the details hanging loose either.
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
richard.. This excerpt from today on the Amish slayings in Pa. "Roberts' wife, Marie, was invited to attend the funeral by the family of Marian Fisher; it was unclear whether she attended. Donors from around the world are pledging money to help the families of the dead and wounded. Amounts ranging from $1 to $500,000 have been received and could help defray mounting medical bills. At the behest of Amish leaders, a fund was also set up for the killer's widow and children."
As I said, no details hanging loose either. And if you do not understand those shootings, try this video, posted on 4um yesterday; TerrorStorm Delxue High Quality (Alex Jones) For those who really want a look into the sleeze and lies behind the so-called terror attacks, take a look at this free video, please. http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=786048453686176230&q=TerrorStorm&hl=en Heck of a video, and it makes so many things clear!
The Solution is to apply, for the first time in the history of the United States, the Constitution to Washington, D.C.
The respect I now have for the Amish community is now off the chart.
Nor do the Protestants, but "heretical" is a tad strong.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers It is just right.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
You get two people holding a stick, and someone else walks under it. Why must there be a papal document about doing the Limbo????
#2. To: Brian S (#0)
babies who die without baptism go to limbo instead of heaven,
#3. To: Cynicom (#2)
Somehow I expect God took care of that
#4. To: richard9151 (#3)
Somehow I expect God took care of that
#5. To: Cynicom (#4)
It would seem to me that taking care of the unborn and little ones would have been a priority with God
#6. To: richard9151 (#5)
I absolutely agree, but God is not one to leave the details hanging loose either.
#7. To: Cynicom (#6)
#8. To: Cynicom (#6)
#9. To: Destro (#1)
The Orthodox Church has been telling its wayward heretical sister church in Rome that there is no limbo or purgatory for centuries.
#10. To: robin (#9)
but "heretical" is a tad strong.
#11. To: Brian S (#0)
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#12. To: Destro (#10)
What would be "just right" is if Christendom could get its act together and be less divisive.
"If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country." - Daniel Ellsberg Author, Pentagon Papers
#13. To: Brian S (#0)
Good to know that the Pope is clarifying the issue... I wonder how many Catholics, American anyway, are aware of the present Church stance. Seems to me that if it's not something to do with homosexuals, women's rights or contraception, it's of neither value nor relevance to the Catholic on the street (sad as it may be).
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