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Title: Breaking News: Shot fired At Memorial Middle School : Student Begged, ‘Not To Make Me Do This’ - Armed With An AK-47
Source: www.joplinglobe.com
URL Source: http://www.joplinglobe.com/local/local_story_282101951.html
Published: Oct 9, 2006
Author: joplinglobe
Post Date: 2006-10-09 10:51:02 by Mind_Virus
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Views: 1686
Comments: 46

Breaking News: Shot fired At Memorial Middle School
October 09, 2006 08:43 am
9:18 a.m. Student Begged, ‘Not To Make Me Do This’
A Memorial Middle School student, armed with an AK-47 assault rifle, pointed the gun this morning at two school administrators and begged them, ‘not to make me do this.”
A 15-year-old student walked into the east side of Memorial Middle School about 7:45 a.m. where he was spotted by Memorial Principle Steve Gilbreath and Assistant Superintendent Steve Doerr.
School officials say the student pointed the gun at the two men, asked them “not to make me do this” and then raised the gun and fired a shot into the ceiling of the school, breaking a water pipe.
After firing the shot, he said again, “Please don’t make me do this.”
Doerr and Gilbreth persuaded the student to go outside the building where he was confronted by two police officers who had their weapons drawn. The student dropped the rifle and was taken into custody.
Joplin police Officer Curt Farmer said officers found a note in the student’s packpack indicating that he had placed an explosive device in the school.
Students in the school were moved to Memorial Hall where they are awaiting their parents.
School Superintendent Jim Simpson said the school will be closed for the day while police make a search of the building.
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#2. To: Mind_Virus (#0)
This is really some dumb shit. What do you want to bet this kid has been on Ritalin, or something stronger, for a number of years, just like those kids in Colorado at Columbine?

BTP Holdings posted on 2006-10-09 10:57:48 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#6. To: BTP Holdings (#2)
You have no idea what the hell's going on. Nor do I. Do you really put it past the government to be behind this in some way?
Are AK47's that readily available?

angle posted on 2006-10-09 11:02:42 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#8. To: angle (#6)
Are AK47's that readily available?

That is if it was an AK. There are tens of thousands of the semi-auto version in the country.

BTP Holdings posted on 2006-10-09 11:04:21 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#11. To: All (#8)
Just heard an update on radio.
They are saying it was a 13 y/o and he had an "AK-47 assault rifle" and that he had planned this attack for some time, including the use of explosives.
I will be interested to hear what kind of lies and other BS they come up with on the so-called explosives.
I do not trust the MSM one bit to report any of this accurately.

BTP Holdings posted on 2006-10-09 11:08:17 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#22. To: all (#11)
Why would anyone need an AK-47 assault rifle???????????????

Jethro Tull posted on 2006-10-09 11:58:59 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#22)
"Why would anyone need an AK-47 assault rifle?"

Ask the world why worldwide it is the most popular one in use. You can open the thing and throw sand in he lower receiver and it still works. If you do that to an AR-15 it jams because the machining is done at such a close tolerance.
You can also use 7.62 ammo an M60 machine gun uses, but the U.S. M60 machine gun won't accept Russian spec 7.62 ammo. They are fast to put into action, durable and tolerant of long period without cleaning.
They are ugly, cheap looking, and the finish and detailing horrible. But who cares if it saves your ass if you have to head for the hills because you have gone from voicing your opinion to being a subversive to the government because your opinion differs from the power elite?

Ferret Mike posted on 2006-10-09 13:25:31 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, christine, Zipporah, Diana, rowdee, (#32)
You can also use 7.62 ammo an M60 machine gun uses, but the U.S. M60 machine gun won't accept Russian spec 7.62 ammo. They are fast to put into action, durable and tolerant of long period without cleaning.

First, it's not a question of need, it's a question of rights. _____________________________________________
Perhaps I misread your post?
Did you mean to imply that you can load and fire the NATO cartridge in the AK?
The 7.62X51 NATO cartridge is not interchangeable with the Russian 7.62X39.
The "51" and "39" are the lengths of the cartridge cases in millimeters.
Need I say more?
Even if the two cartridges were roughly interchangeable, it would have to be the other way around, where the shorter cartridge is accommodated by the longer chamber, not vice versa.
But they are not in any way interchangeable. One reason is, both cartridges headspace on the shoulders of the brass, (where the cartridges get wider) and unless the distances from the case heads to the shoulders were identical it would be impossible for the bolt face to meet and support the rims or, impossible to close the bolt on a too long cartridge..
If you need more info just ask, and I'll dig up a comparison chart.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2006-10-09 14:14:35 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#35. To: HOUNDDAWG (#34)
Thanks. I got the weapon -- as I did with most I own -- when I was in the Army, bored with money to burn and should burn off this old ammo I have next time I go to the range as I usually target shoot what I can afford to use. I was going off the top of my head with old info and should know better, as I left the Army in 1990 and it doesn't seem that long ago but it is.
Appreciate the correction. ;-)

Ferret Mike posted on 2006-10-09 14:45:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Ferret Mike (#35)
I have so much stuff bouncing around in the brain that sometimes I do the same thing-mix my recollections up-And they come from who knows where...
No shame in that.
You're well trained and served honorably, so we can leave the tech stuff to the armorers and nerds and let you take care of bidness if the Taliban comes a'sneakin' over the back fence.
And after a half hour of skirmishing it'll all come back to you.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2006-10-09 16:59:01 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Ferret Mike, Jethro Tull, christine, Zipporah, Diana, rowdee, (#37)
They went from 300 bones to a grand after peeps discovered how delightful they are, and that imported ammo was (at that time) affordable enough to stockpile and plink like .22.
The Norinco AK's and SKS rifles are fine tools, and even though they aren't as prized as Ruskie produced arms, they stand on their own reps and no one need ever feel ashamed to show up to a social gathering (i.e. militia muster) with them.
When I first saw a SKS I thought that they're so homely that only a commie's mommy could love them.
But every one I've fired was delightful to shoot, accurate and reliable, and I like them alot now.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2006-10-09 17:22:33 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#39. To: HOUNDDAWG, Ferret Mike (#38)
I don't have any AKs. I'm an AR whore. But I do have a Russian SKS which has served me well. I have a shitpile of Wolf steel case 7.62X39 for the thing.
It's a fun gun that's for sure. Not as accurate as I'd like, but then again, I'm spoiled with some tack driving AR15s. :)

Critter posted on 2006-10-09 19:08:22 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#40. To: Critter, Ferret Mike, christine, AngelSpawn (#39)
I don't have any AKs. I'm an AR whore. But I do have a Russian SKS which has served me well. I have a shitpile of Wolf steel case 7.62X39 for the thing.
It's a fun gun that's for sure. Not as accurate as I'd like, but then again, I'm spoiled with some tack driving AR15s. :)

Very good.
I bought a COLT CAR-15 25 years ago in CA, and I was a desert rat back then. That gun was not only accurate but it never once failed to load, fire and eject.
But, the myth endures.... of course it would have locked up had I dumped a handful of sand into it, but, I made a point of never doing that!
So, the comparison between the low maintenance AK (and it's one hundred million copies and numerous variants) and the AR patent rifles isn't really fair. IF an agency takes the time to train their riflemen how to shoot and maintain the AR it serves them well, except at extended ranges where the tiny pill runs out of steam. (It could be chambered in a new 6mm cartridge with the new "smart ammo" and the enemies of corporate America would tell their kids horrible campfire stories about the evil Americans' Bogey gun.)
But, if you sweep a village and conscript every man, woman and child who can tote a piece of iron, give them a few classes on the great words of Chairman Mao, put them in black PJs and send them into the bush, then, reliability under harsh conditions is paramount, and there is really no reason for the weapon to be any more accurate than the poor training requires.
That's my cut on it, and you and Mike may disagree.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2006-10-10 05:21:14 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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